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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24.8%)
Real Madrid - 78 (66.7%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.9%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.9%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
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July 28, 2022, 01:36:02 PM
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There was a rumour about Marc-Andre Ter Stegen future in Barcelona that if De Jong stayed then Ter Stegen possibly will be sell and impossible to registered all of the current players because of Financial Fair Play rules so the option is Barcelona have to release the player who have high salary so Ter Stegen might be the player who leave this summer especially in the last few seasons he had decline performance period and reported Barcelona will looking for the replacement of him and Barcelona have several candidated for goalkeeper position such as Alban Lafont from Nantes and Maarten Vandevoordt from Genk FC

Although Marc-Andre Ter Stegen has helped Barcelona win many trophies since 2014, and his contract still has two years left. However, Ter Stegen has
a fairly large salary of around 7 million euros per season, so Barcelona had to take a tough decision at the expense of Ter Stegen for immediate sale
this year. It was all done so that Barcelona could register Frenkie De Jong to be able to play in La Liga, when in fact Barcelona really wanted to sell
Frenkie De Jong to Man United. But because De Jong refused to move, then Barcelona were forced to sell Marc-Andre Ter Stegen.

Moreover, Marc-Andre Ter Stegen who is still 30 years old is considered to still have value for sale. If it is true that Marc-Andre Ter Stegen is finally sold
by Barcelona, ​​then this will open up opportunities for Barcelona's young goalkeeper. Because it is impossible for Barcelona to rely on their senior
goalkeeper, Neto, who is 33 years old and his performance is less impressive. So maybe Xavi will give a chance to Inaki Pena who is still 23 years old,
and also 21-year-old Arnau Tenas to become Barcelona's main goalkeeper. With a large amount of money that Barcelona has spent so far to bring in
new players, it seems unlikely that Barcelona will buy a goalkeeper to replace Marc-Andre Ter Stegen.

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July 28, 2022, 02:05:27 PM
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There was a rumour about Marc-Andre Ter Stegen future in Barcelona that if De Jong stayed then Ter Stegen possibly will be sell and impossible to registered all of the current players because of Financial Fair Play rules so the option is Barcelona have to release the player who have high salary so Ter Stegen might be the player who leave this summer especially in the last few seasons he had decline performance period and reported Barcelona will looking for the replacement of him and Barcelona have several candidated for goalkeeper position such as Alban Lafont from Nantes and Maarten Vandevoordt from Genk FC
Barcelona could not possibly register all their players due to FFP regulations, actually Barcelona wanted to release De Jong because he was one of the highest paid players, but he refused to leave and the offer of a pay cut was unsuccessful. With the situation unfavorable, Barcelona must look for other options, selling Ter Stegen could be done because he is included in the list of players who burden the club finances. Ter Stegen salary is very high, he earns 7 million euros per season and will increase even more next season. Selling Ter Stegen will get Barcelona out of two problems, firstly, Barcelona will be on the right track to register all their players. And secondly, the departure of Ter Stegen could reduce the club salary burden.

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July 28, 2022, 02:57:44 PM
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I don't know Why Barcelona becomes very active in this transfer window. They even don't doubt if signing too many players will cause a problem on players' salaries then. Myabe Barcelona gets big sponsorships that want to give them a huge amount of money.

They are very active thanks to the sponsorships they have made recently seemingly. Otherwise we all know about what kind of a situation they are in actually. They just want to make all the transfers they can before they enter a state that they can't do this easily. These transfers are of course really nice ones when it comes to becoming more successful in the league and the other tournaments both. But I wonder if they will be in a more comfortable situation financially at the end of this season. It won't be easy even if they have a great season.
Big sponsors still won't allow teams to have all the players they want, because if big sponsors can make clubs buy players freely then all rich clubs will be able to easily do that too. But the truth is, every club with a rich owner will still go through a process to finally be able to have a lot of great players on the team. There are restrictions in the finances themselves, especially from spending, which if it is not balanced it is very likely that a club will get a violation. But in Barcelona, they are free and I don't understand because basically even though they have sponsors and have sold broadcasting rights but still their financial condition still has problems especially in paying player salaries.

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July 28, 2022, 03:17:45 PM
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Such a weird position Barcelona are in. They have to shoo away their own players that pledged loyalty to them and rightly so, the players arent budging or leaving as most of them are yet to be paid their full wages. The whole Frankie de Jong saga is a black mark on Barcelona's history. How could a management be so irresponsible and then try to shift it all on the players while also trying to sign new players for equal if not higher salary? I've lost all respect for Barcelona at this point. They could win the league again but I'll remember that the club in itself isnt loyal to its players.

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July 28, 2022, 03:28:10 PM
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After all they have to settle first their protracted inter problem, otherwise we don't know what will happen to this team. Achievement may be their target now, but it's not worth it if they are still grappling with their current problems. In my opinion, achievements must be accompanied by a stable team situation, it will make it easier for them to move forward.
That's true, but if you look at the way Barcelona are in terms of getting new players in the transfer market at the moment, it looks like Barcelona have started to solve their own problems so that in pre-season matches Barcelona also started to show a step forward through very brilliant performances. In fact, I think that Barcelona will be the strongest competitor to win the trophy in La Liga next season.
If they have solved the problem, why is it rumored that they are going to take a pay cut from the player (Frankie de Jong)? It proves that they haven't really solved their problem completely. Do not let their ambitious desires harm other players. If it is said that they are willing to take a pay cut because of their loyalty to the club, still that kind of thing shouldn't exist in football.

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July 28, 2022, 03:37:55 PM
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Their attack is the best attack in La Liga at the moment? We haven't even seen a game in La Liga start now. Indeed, in terms of players, this might be a problem for other teams, but to say that their attack is the strongest in La Liga for now, it seems too early, especially since La Liga has not yet started.
Good point. Barcelona might have managed it to assemble a good squad except for the defence, toegther with a good coach in the person of Xavi that is very much familiar with the league and Barcelona's style of play but, the league is yet to kick off. Yeah, Barcelona might have won there last game with Real Madrid last season and have won there friendly just recently but that's that for now, its just a friendly and looking at Real Madrid frm last season, the league was already won so, they had little to struggle for.  Although this might go a long way to impact on the players a winning mentality but we've got to wait on the league to kick off before making any conclusions on what could be the best tram. It's going to be down to Barcelona and Real Madrid for sure though.
This may be a little different in terms of how the league goes because for sure with things like this Madrid will not walk alone in the race for the title.
As for the defense issue, I quite agree with what you said because their defense is too stiff now, especially there are still players who are quite old. Xavi is now anticipating bringing Kounde there even though this will make it more difficult for them financially and there is no guarantee of a title either.
I'm looking forward to the competition between Barcelona and Madrid, which is getting worse and worse.

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July 28, 2022, 03:41:56 PM
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Real Madrid 2 - 2 Club America

once again we couldn't win, it seems to me that this season we won't win la liga, something tells me it will be a season of headaches
I like this match because it's been a long time I haven't seen the trio of Vini, Benzema and Asensio there.
As for saying they won't win in La Liga, it's too hasty, my friends, remember this is only a friendly match so it's still quite natural that there are still some adjustments even if we look at the last line of defense that is filled by A. Lunin who incidentally is young goalkeeper.

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July 28, 2022, 03:50:27 PM
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Maybe Barcelona are having a great transfer window now but they really have spent incredible amount of money already. They still don't want to make do with these transfers and they are going for Jules Kounde also. Maybe it is like a dream for Barcelona but it is time to wake up from it. Otherwise their finance is going to get even more terrible until the end of the season. They don't make long-term plans now as it seems. Because the total salary load is increasing on one hand also.
It seems that Xavi's achievements last season made the management confident next season. The management gave a large enough budget to buy new players in a not so good financial state. I was actually quite surprised, Barcelona's move was beyond my expectations. In addition, Barcelona is very active in hunting down players and surpassing Real Madrid. In addition in the trials in the Pre-Season tournament Barca won 1-0. This is a warning to Madrid, They are not active in the transfer market this time.
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This rumor has been around since the transfer window opened even when Xavi was just appointed as Barcelona coach at the time and then it disappeared and now it's re-emerged, for me personally returning Messi to Barcelona for now will not be possible. Just imagine, with the many star players with expensive salaries in the Barcelona squad, it will certainly have an impact on financial fairplay. Even now Frenkie de Jong is required to be sold because the high cost of the player's total salary is a problem for Barcelona. Also, if we remember that Messi left Barcelona at that time the problem was about the amount of Messi's salary, even though at that time Messi had agreed to his salary cut but still it was not the best way for Barcelona. So, I personally would not believe about rumors like this, Barcelona is a crazy team that has a lot of debt but continues to form a luxury team, while the debt is not settled.
This is the problem. Carrying Messi is the same as digging their graves once again. Indeed in this case there are some things that would benefit them if Messi was at Camp Nou again because apart from bringing his performances a bit better, it would also bring some back sponsorships and some other financial raises from souvenirs etc.
But on the other hand, salary is still their main problem and this will obviously bring them into trouble like the previous season, so it's not worth it in terms of advantages and disadvantages.

Firstly, I am aware that Barcelona is buying players from outside the league. At least think about the current situation. There is no way that the same Barcelona which had to let the leading player in the World Cup because of financial difficulty are able to buy a lot of overpriced players right now.

So, I certainly don’t think they are making wise decisions about the transfers. Can you imagine what would happen if Bayern Munich's statement came true? That Barcelona will not even be a club in a few years' time.

Anyway, I don’t think Barcelona can afford Lionel Messi right now. But the same thing was said about the previous two transfers that Barcelona made. It seems like every time I say that Barcelona cannot afford the players, Barcelona takes it personally and starts buying the players.

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For the progress of Barcelona which has a new era and future, there is no need to expect Messi to return or be bought just because his contract at PSG expires next year. If we look at Barcelona growing ideally when he left, even without Messi Barcelona can still stand tall and give something extraordinary but at the beginning it didn't go well. What I hear is Barcelona's finances don't come from one direction only, when they are in debt under the pretext of cutting player salaries here we can see that Barcelona's finances are actually not as bad as we hear.

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real madrid friendlies:

Real madrid 0 - 1 barcelona

we lost once again to barcelona, honestly this is annoying

Real Madrid 2 - 2 Club America

once again we couldn't win, it seems to me that this season we won't win la liga, something tells me it will be a season of headaches

Why so pessimistic? It's just training, nothing serious. Did you also believe in Barcelona that was "reborn"? And other clubs have even less opportunities compared to Real Madrid.
By the way, what do you think about the odds with which the bookmakers offer to bet on the Real Madrid Championship (currently 2.15)? In my opinion, this is easy money.

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For the progress of Barcelona which has a new era and future, there is no need to expect Messi to return or be bought just because his contract at PSG expires next year. If we look at Barcelona growing ideally when he left, even without Messi Barcelona can still stand tall and give something extraordinary but at the beginning it didn't go well. What I hear is Barcelona's finances don't come from one direction only, when they are in debt under the pretext of cutting player salaries here we can see that Barcelona's finances are actually not as bad as we hear.
Indeed Barcelona have made progress in the season now that many players have been brought in, Jules Koundé has also now been signed by Barcelona from Sevilla just to undergo a medical.
This means that defence, midfielders and attackers have been well managed by Xavi with sufficient funds because they can afford to buy even though it is expensive, so well not as bad as we are with Barcelona's finances but the ambition to return to a new era with Xavi without Messi will make even more real.

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There was a rumour about Marc-Andre Ter Stegen future in Barcelona that if De Jong stayed then Ter Stegen possibly will be sell and impossible to registered all of the current players because of Financial Fair Play rules so the option is Barcelona have to release the player who have high salary so Ter Stegen might be the player who leave this summer especially in the last few seasons he had decline performance period and reported Barcelona will looking for the replacement of him and Barcelona have several candidated for goalkeeper position such as Alban Lafont from Nantes and Maarten Vandevoordt from Genk FC
Of course barcelona had to release some of their players to be able to register him this season. I don't think Marc-André ter Stegen is one to sell, but it's still possible about some other players like Mingueza, De Jong, Riqui Puig, Sergi Roberto, Depay or Martin Braithwaite.

But it's always possible to let Ter Stegen go this season especially because barcelona have 2 other young goalkeepers like Inaki Pena and Arnau Tenas. Neto is also not used very often because Ter Stegen has been a mainstay almost every season in Laliga, Champions League or other competitions so there is an option to release one of them if needed.

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July 28, 2022, 06:49:29 PM
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Juve build a solid team and it is expected to see them fighting for the scudetto and advancing to the finals of CL.
For Dembele, it is important for him and for Barca to maintain his performance and avoid injuries since it is his main weakness.
For Barca's defence, players need some time to play together and to find their harmony which is the point of these friendlies.
Realized enough in this regard that Xavi is very serious about bringing Kunde to Camp Nou because in this case they are not very good there and indeed there needs to be regeneration from the Barcelona defense which until now is old.
As for when they say Juventus they are more intent on midfield but still they are still not solid in defense there.

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July 28, 2022, 07:53:14 PM
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Maybe Barcelona are having a great transfer window now but they really have spent incredible amount of money already. They still don't want to make do with these transfers and they are going for Jules Kounde also. Maybe it is like a dream for Barcelona but it is time to wake up from it. Otherwise their finance is going to get even more terrible until the end of the season. They don't make long-term plans now as it seems. Because the total salary load is increasing on one hand also.
It seems that Xavi's achievements last season made the management confident next season. The management gave a large enough budget to buy new players in a not so good financial state. I was actually quite surprised, Barcelona's move was beyond my expectations. In addition, Barcelona is very active in hunting down players and surpassing Real Madrid. In addition in the trials in the Pre-Season tournament Barca won 1-0. This is a warning to Madrid, They are not active in the transfer market this time.
The big budget makes it easy for Xavi to bring in the players he wants. At least Barcelona have spent 153 million euros to bring in three-star players this season, Lewandowski, Kounde and Raphinha. Meanwhile, Christensen and Kessie were brought in on a free transfer. Xavi's success in boosting Barcelona's performance last season made club officials very confident with Xavi's performance, now Barcelona has opened a new story in the transfer window, with the quality of the players they have, Barcelona is able to rival the strength of Real Madrid.

Note: Barcelona have reached an agreement over the transfer of Kounde, now awaiting medical tests.

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July 28, 2022, 08:45:17 PM
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For the progress of Barcelona which has a new era and future, there is no need to expect Messi to return or be bought just because his contract at PSG expires next year. If we look at Barcelona growing ideally when he left, even without Messi Barcelona can still stand tall and give something extraordinary but at the beginning it didn't go well. What I hear is Barcelona's finances don't come from one direction only, when they are in debt under the pretext of cutting player salaries here we can see that Barcelona's finances are actually not as bad as we hear.
This is so true because if their situation was that bad,and they don't have any finance atall,they won't be able to sign the players that they've signed so far,in the person's of Rafinha and Lewandowski,now Kounde has followed them.It is now known that their situation is not bad atall. And secondly,they've been able to survive without Messi in the team,so there is no need wanting the player to come back,because Xavi has already arranged his team the way he wants it.
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Maybe it won't work out well if Messi goes back to Barcelona. Lewandovski is one of the best attackers they could get right now. Maybe a bit older, but he is guaranteed to score a lot of goals for Barcelona. He will play an important role. Last year there were a lot of games where the game was locked for Barcelona, with a player like him you can force things. They do have a strong vanguard now. Still too many attackers really? You also have Dembele and Aubemayang and Ansuh Fati for example. I'm curious how Xavi wants to put it all down. It seems reassuring that Frenkie de Jong will not leave the club.

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July 28, 2022, 08:58:29 PM
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Maybe it won't work out well if Messi goes back to Barcelona. Lewandovski is one of the best attackers they could get right now. Maybe a bit older, but he is guaranteed to score a lot of goals for Barcelona. He will play an important role. Last year there were a lot of games where the game was locked for Barcelona, with a player like him you can force things. They do have a strong vanguard now. Still too many attackers really? You also have Dembele and Aubemayang and Ansuh Fati for example. I'm curious how Xavi wants to put it all down. It seems reassuring that Frenkie de Jong will not leave the club.
Messi served his time in Barcelona, dropped a lot in performance once he left La Liga, at some point he is considered as a normal player, just his name and the money generated from that kept him useful for PSG. The way he played most of the game would place him in the benches earlier but he is Messi after all.
I suppose if he continues like that, no way Barcelona will get him back and he will retire in USA. If he gets back his unusual performance and Lewandowski didn't impress then he might get a ticket to return there.

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We shouldn't take friendly games too seriously. Because we don't see the real strength of teams in games like these. It was still nice to watch an unofficial El Clasico of course.  Grin  I'm looking forward to watching Real Madrid and Barcelona especially in this season. I hope to see a big competition between these teams for the league championship. Barcelona have improved their game and squad both a lot. They should be able to challenge hard for being the champions.

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July 28, 2022, 09:27:10 PM
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We shouldn't take friendly games too seriously. Because we don't see the real strength of teams in games like these. It was still nice to watch an unofficial El Clasico of course.  Grin  I'm looking forward to watching Real Madrid and Barcelona especially in this season. I hope to see a big competition between these teams for the league championship. Barcelona have improved their game and squad both a lot. They should be able to challenge hard for being the champions.

There was still a lot of heat on the match between this two in their el clasico . A derby is a derby there will always be heat between big rivals. Also i think this season will be really intresting in laliga for the title. Barcelona never looked better in last 10 years

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