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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24.4%)
Real Madrid - 80 (67.2%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
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July 27, 2022, 02:15:09 PM
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But in my view the return of Messi is not about Messi's performance in matches, but only to complete the squad and hopefully can provide motivation and input to the young Barcelona squad itself. After all, before I heard about Xavi's statement that Messi should retire at Barcelona which means, Messi's return is not entirely to play for the full 90 minutes. We can see how the senior players in a club, they will not play for the full 90 minutes but to fill the situation and conditions when needed.

Well overall I agree with what you said.
although in my opinion messi still has a fairly prime physique at his age which is no longer young in the world of football. even though he played till the end of the second half whistle it didn't matter to him.

As for as you said messi can return to camp nou and end his career in barcelona, ​​he is a living legend of barcelona.
Only one more season to the end of Messi's contract at PSG. that way barcelona doesn't have to spend a budget as a dowry to bring him back to camp nou.

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July 27, 2022, 02:26:11 PM
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But in my view the return of Messi is not about Messi's performance in matches, but only to complete the squad and hopefully can provide motivation and input to the young Barcelona squad itself. After all, before I heard about Xavi's statement that Messi should retire at Barcelona which means, Messi's return is not entirely to play for the full 90 minutes. We can see how the senior players in a club, they will not play for the full 90 minutes but to fill the situation and conditions when needed.
The close relationship between Messi and Barcelona so far has made it possible for Barcelona to ask Messi to return to Camp Nou easily if his contract at PSG has expired, but I agree with you, because if Messi returns later, Barcelona will no longer expect too much from Messi performance because of his age factor, besides that it is most likely that messi back to camp nou is just an attraction for other players to join barcelona, ​​because after all there are many young star players who will interested to play in the same club with the world's best players, and most likely to become the reason barcelona wants messi back is because of financial factors, because we know messi has an attraction for barcelona fans and of course the club will get a big income from selling  messi jersey later.
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July 27, 2022, 02:26:31 PM
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But in my view the return of Messi is not about Messi's performance in matches, but only to complete the squad and hopefully can provide motivation and input to the young Barcelona squad itself. After all, before I heard about Xavi's statement that Messi should retire at Barcelona which means, Messi's return is not entirely to play for the full 90 minutes. We can see how the senior players in a club, they will not play for the full 90 minutes but to fill the situation and conditions when needed.
The return of Messi if happens, will be like a iconic activity. Barcelona must move onward without Messi. They can use Messi in two or three more seasons but they should not in order to give more opportunities to young players. Young players are future of Barcelona, not Messi.

The longer they rely on Messi, the more time they will waste to grow their young players. We knew why Thiago Alcatara decided to leave the club and made his name in Bayern Munich. He simply could not wait many years to be given opportunities.

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July 27, 2022, 02:54:02 PM
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Barcelona's squad is very strong. I would say their attack is the best attack in La Liga right now.
From where do you get these statistics?

They haven't even played a single match in La Liga, and Barcelona's attack is the best? 
I didn't know that fans really get too carried away that easily Grin

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July 27, 2022, 03:15:24 PM
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But in my view the return of Messi is not about Messi's performance in matches, but only to complete the squad and hopefully can provide motivation and input to the young Barcelona squad itself. After all, before I heard about Xavi's statement that Messi should retire at Barcelona which means, Messi's return is not entirely to play for the full 90 minutes. We can see how the senior players in a club, they will not play for the full 90 minutes but to fill the situation and conditions when needed.
The return of Messi if happens, will be like a iconic activity. Barcelona must move onward without Messi. They can use Messi in two or three more seasons but they should not in order to give more opportunities to young players. Young players are future of Barcelona, not Messi.

The longer they rely on Messi, the more time they will waste to grow their young players. We knew why Thiago Alcatara decided to leave the club and made his name in Bayern Munich. He simply could not wait many years to be given opportunities.
Barcelona is already attached to Messi so this has become iconic for him, Messi is now old maybe the ideal is two more seasons he can play full time but after that he will decline a little because he is too old and Barcelona should be able to provide opportunities for better young players and productive instead of relying solely on Messi because for me it wouldn't be a good opportunity.

Still, young players must be prioritized because it is an asset for Barcelona even if Messi comes back again it is only an adhesive to motivate other players.

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July 27, 2022, 03:15:58 PM
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Barcelona's squad is very strong. I would say their attack is the best attack in La Liga right now.
From where do you get these statistics?

They haven't even played a single match in La Liga, and Barcelona's attack is the best? 
I didn't know that fans really get too carried away that easily Grin
It can't be confirmed as a deadly attack if you haven't played. Maybe fans who are very enthusiastic about Barcelona first appearance will really dream of it. It's natural but it also shouldn't be forgotten that other clubs are still contenders to consider if La Liga has already started. Not only is the squad now considered perfect but we also want to see that soon on the pitch.

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July 27, 2022, 03:32:05 PM
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Actually I still feel weird when I hear that Barcelona want to bring Messi home. It doesn't mean I forbid Barcelona to do that, but they have to adapt to the current state of the team. They have cut the salaries of some players, and most recently they will cut Frenkie de Jong's salary. Isn't it selfish when it's a wish they have to achieve, but it hurts the other players on the team?

I think the Barcelona team wants Messi to retire as a Barcelona Legend so that he would become one of the coaching staff or possibly their next coach because looking at the Barcelona squad right now, I will say they have a complete team with the players they have added to the team in this transfer window. Messi left Barcelona for PSG last season because of the financial crisis the team was facing so I see no reason why the club will want him back after signing good players that will fit his position.

To me, it will be so funny to see Messi return to a team he left after accepting a pay cut but the team allowed him to move to PSG as a free transfer. De jong's case is something that I won't blame Barcelona because the club wanted him to go to Manchester United because they were interested in signing him but he rejected the offer and insisted that he remain in Barcelona so he should accept the pay cut in his salary.

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July 27, 2022, 03:35:48 PM
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Barcelona's squad is very strong. I would say their attack is the best attack in La Liga right now. And the midfield is stable enough. But the defense is weak. Barcelona dropped points against lesser teams last season due to poor defending. The defense will definitely need to be strengthened if they want to win the title this season. And against smaller teams, full points must be achive. So Barcelona will surely benefit if Kounde is included in the team.
From where? Did you take the result from the pre season as a way to take such conclusion? I saw that barcelona was getting draw against juve. That means if that has not yet proven barcelona to have the best attack in la liga.
The real statistic can be seen after the launch of la liga. we will see how strong the team that already built by xavi. I will not take the result from pre season as a good information to identifying the team.

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July 27, 2022, 03:38:54 PM
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Actually I still feel weird when I hear that Barcelona want to bring Messi home. It doesn't mean I forbid Barcelona to do that, but they have to adapt to the current state of the team. They have cut the salaries of some players, and most recently they will cut Frenkie de Jong's salary. Isn't it selfish when it's a wish they have to achieve, but it hurts the other players on the team?

And what made it even more difficult for me to believe this news is when I see Lewandowski is under contract for four seasons with Barcelona if I'm not mistaken. Barcelona already have lewandowski, Aubameyang and Raphinha, bring back Lionel Messi would create a selfish conflict on the barcelona front line, I'm sure Xavi is aware of the seriousness of that. Although this plan will not work this season because of Messi's contractual attachment to PSG, it is a plan that is not quite right.

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July 27, 2022, 03:46:06 PM
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Barcelona's squad is very strong. I would say their attack is the best attack in La Liga right now.
From where do you get these statistics?

They haven't even played a single match in La Liga, and Barcelona's attack is the best? 
I didn't know that fans really get too carried away that easily Grin
It can't be confirmed as a deadly attack if you haven't played. Maybe fans who are very enthusiastic about Barcelona first appearance will really dream of it. It's natural but it also shouldn't be forgotten that other clubs are still contenders to consider if La Liga has already started. Not only is the squad now considered perfect but we also want to see that soon on the pitch.

Fans of Barcelona are satisfied with their game-play after the start of the pre-season match. While they may be overwhelmed in some cases, the amount of work is considerable. As a result of Barcelona's first appearance, we can expect some serious competition, as the current Barca squad under Xavi is expected to compete in the La Liga fairly strongly. In the preseason game, I had a lot of fun. As the season begins, I'm hoping to see the same level of performance and momentum.

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real madrid friendlies:

Real madrid 0 - 1 barcelona

we lost once again to barcelona, honestly this is annoying

Real Madrid 2 - 2 Club America

once again we couldn't win, it seems to me that this season we won't win la liga, something tells me it will be a season of headaches

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real madrid friendlies:

Real madrid 0 - 1 barcelona

we lost once again to barcelona, honestly this is annoying

Real Madrid 2 - 2 Club America

once again we couldn't win, it seems to me that this season we won't win la liga, something tells me it will be a season of headaches
Losing a match is of course very annoying for the fans, especially if the team they are facing is an eternal rival or also a small club that is not well known at all, but I think you should not feel pessimistic just because Madrid lost in the current pre-season match, because in my opinion pre-season matches cannot be a reference for madrid performance in the league next season, if you look at madrid's capacity in the 2022 champions league, I think from the start no one favored madrid to be champions because of the many strong teams full of star players but in fact Madrid are champions even though they have to work very hard.

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July 27, 2022, 04:43:35 PM
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For a giant club like PSG and with superstar players, it's actually very wide open. But with the current rivals the Champions League is really a hell zone. Lol

Yes, the hell zone next season is perfect, how can not every club that is considered a giant take advantage of the transfer market to have a ticket to the Champions League early.

Barcelona for Messi can still accept if he really will restore his tarnished name.
Funny, I think Messi used to leave because of rights issues he had regarding the salary being cut. If Messi returns his salary will be intact? it is a major factor. I think Barcelona will have financial difficulties if Messi returns. Some of the new players who come also have a considerable salary. They will bear huge expenses, and maybe it will make their finances worse even more. So Messi will not come back as long as there are financial problems in Barcelona.
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Ousmane Dembélé put them to sleep. What a great goal and he made it back to back. Juve's left wing is alarming. Dembélé showed he will start games next season, hopefully he won't face any injuries so we can see a full season finally from him. That would definitely boost Barca's championship chances.
Barca's defense didn't look they are ready for new season. They were lazy on Kean's both goals. Obviously these friendlies are great to see problem areas, Xavi should act on it. Luckily La Liga will start one week later than others, so they still have time to fix some problems.

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Barcelona's squad is very strong. I would say their attack is the best attack in La Liga right now.
From where do you get these statistics?

They haven't even played a single match in La Liga, and Barcelona's attack is the best? 
I didn't know that fans really get too carried away that easily Grin

I don't think you need play any game before you can consider an attack the best, you can make an informed guess based on the players they've got, When Barcelona signed Suarez, he was still serving a ban and they were already tipped to become one of the best trio combination ever.

I think Barcelona squad looks pretty solid apart from the defensive aspect which seem to still need reinforcement. If a team has the likes of Raphinha, Dembele, Fati, Ferran Torres, Aubameyang, Depay and Lewandowski as their attacking options then it's pretty much right to consider them a strong and quality team, even though they might not provide the much needed results, but it doesn't mean they aren't of enough quality to compete for trophies.

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July 27, 2022, 04:55:53 PM
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Ousmane Dembélé put them to sleep. What a great goal and he made it back to back. Juve's left wing is alarming. Dembélé showed he will start games next season, hopefully he won't face any injuries so we can see a full season finally from him. That would definitely boost Barca's championship chances.
Barca's defense didn't look they are ready for new season. They were lazy on Kean's both goals. Obviously these friendlies are great to see problem areas, Xavi should act on it. Luckily La Liga will start one week later than others, so they still have time to fix some problems.
The clash friendly between Barcelona and Juventus ended in a draw and was an amazing performance the game displayed. Ousmane Dembele scoring a brace in the game was showing his confidence to start games in the new season while Kean debut for the old lady have proven beyond doubt he's good with the ball at his feet. Their one essential thing about the game, it was Raphinha brilliant free kick and and Ansu Fati ball hitting the woodwork. The both teams have problem and errors in their defense and the coaches will sort their spaces vacancy out. Let's hope for a better season for the barça team and Juventus.
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Even Real Madrid got into a difficult financial situation and had to sell their base in the center of Madrid to pay off debts (in the early 2000s). But Barcelona is doing even worse - they are selling their future earnings. I think that we all intuitively understand how bad it is to spend what we have not yet earned. But Barcelona management thinks otherwise. I see that there are rumors that this behavior is due to the possible revival of the Super League project, which is why Barcelona is in such a hurry.
We know that both teams have had financial problems now or in the past, but maybe I agree that at the moment the situation facing Barcelona looks worse than Real Madrid used to be. Selling the broadcasting rights is an option that Barcelona have at the moment to stabilize the team's condition, but on the other hand they have taken a big risk regarding future income.

Whether the option they choose actually depends on the situation. If indeed they have no other choice, then it is the most realistic option than owe more. The squad they have now can also boost their economy from selling jerseys or player kits, it's another way to earn extra money. From this scenario, it is clear that Lewandowski, Raphinha, Kessie and Crhistensen will bring more profit than the money that Barcelona spent signing all of them.

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July 27, 2022, 05:13:27 PM
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Back to form as Hazard took a delightful penalty that ended in brilliant finished, giving the madridstas the lead. Carlo Ancelotti is been strategize on the game and hopes he will explore Eden Hazard this new season after the Belgian international going through long-term injury. As of now, he's fully fit for games and I'm eager to see him take more penalties for Madrid  and having a great impact on the team. Moreover, Eden Hazard is best known for his ultimate ball possession in games, he's confident and good with body movement on pitch when he was with Chelsea, that's the big deal Madrid fans can't wait to watch him execute those qualities in the team. 



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July 27, 2022, 05:40:20 PM
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I think Barcelona squad looks pretty solid apart from the defensive aspect which seem to still need reinforcement. If a team has the likes of Raphinha, Dembele, Fati, Ferran Torres, Aubameyang, Depay and Lewandowski as their attacking options then it's pretty much right to consider them a strong and quality team, even though they might not provide the much needed results, but it doesn't mean they aren't of enough quality to compete for trophies.

Barcelona team is strong enough. I don't see any weakness in midfield and forward. The only weakness is the defense. If Xavi changes his match strategy. Then maybe he can stabilize the defense. Since the defense is a bit weak. Barcelona will be better off trying not to concede goals from counterattacks against strong teams. Only then can Barcelona's defense be stable.

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July 27, 2022, 05:53:22 PM
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I think Barcelona squad looks pretty solid apart from the defensive aspect which seem to still need reinforcement. If a team has the likes of Raphinha, Dembele, Fati, Ferran Torres, Aubameyang, Depay and Lewandowski as their attacking options then it's pretty much right to consider them a strong and quality team, even though they might not provide the much needed results, but it doesn't mean they aren't of enough quality to compete for trophies.

Barcelona team is strong enough. I don't see any weakness in midfield and forward. The only weakness is the defense. If Xavi changes his match strategy. Then maybe he can stabilize the defense. Since the defense is a bit weak. Barcelona will be better off trying not to concede goals from counterattacks against strong teams. Only then can Barcelona's defense be stable.

The Barcelona attacking players mentioned above are quite capable as now what is deadly for me is enough for those who can score more goals than one of them, but for defense it still needs to be strengthened again but with the arrival of Jules Kunde who will sign His contract I think is sufficient as an ideal centre-back but whether another defender will be needed to get stronger, I think it is necessary to improve on one of them.
But indeed seeing the Barcelona squad now is indeed solid.

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