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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24.6%)
Real Madrid - 79 (66.9%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
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July 26, 2022, 05:02:47 AM
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I think this rumor is related to Xavi's desire to bring Messi back to Camp Nou, Messi is a living legend for Barcelona, ​​the bond between Messi and Xavi is very strong. Xavi's wishes were conveyed to club president Joan Larpota.

Regarding this, I think it is not only financial problems that are an obstacle for Barcelona, ​​but it will be difficult to bring Messi to Camp Nou.
messi and barcelona relationship is not very good after the departure of messi last year, i am very interested in the continued development of this rumour.

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July 26, 2022, 06:00:45 AM
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I think this rumor is related to Xavi's desire to bring Messi back to Camp Nou, Messi is a living legend for Barcelona, ​​the bond between Messi and Xavi is very strong. Xavi's wishes were conveyed to club president Joan Larpota.

Regarding this, I think it is not only financial problems that are an obstacle for Barcelona, ​​but it will be difficult to bring Messi to Camp Nou.
messi and barcelona relationship is not very good after the departure of messi last year, i am very interested in the continued development of this rumour.
If indeed this will happen. Messi, Lewandowski, Raphinha and Auba. Sounds like the avenger club but don't they think about the salary?
Sounds cliché but we still know that their main problem is still rooted in salary which could throw them upside down.
Indeed, in this case, it would be great if they could still be realistic and not push too hard.

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July 26, 2022, 06:32:52 AM
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I think this rumor is related to Xavi's desire to bring Messi back to Camp Nou, Messi is a living legend for Barcelona, ​​the bond between Messi and Xavi is very strong. Xavi's wishes were conveyed to club president Joan Larpota.

Regarding this, I think it is not only financial problems that are an obstacle for Barcelona, ​​but it will be difficult to bring Messi to Camp Nou.
messi and barcelona relationship is not very good after the departure of messi last year, i am very interested in the continued development of this rumour.
If indeed this will happen. Messi, Lewandowski, Raphinha and Auba. Sounds like the avenger club but don't they think about the salary?
Sounds cliché but we still know that their main problem is still rooted in salary which could throw them upside down.
Indeed, in this case, it would be great if they could still be realistic and not push too hard.
Messi is back?
If that could happen of course barcelona would be the perfect club but I think it will be difficult for Xavi to arrange 3 great strikers in their front line later, because admitting it or not for sure these three players have the ego to be special or want to stay in the barcelona front line, I think the salary issue will indeed be a bit of a problem because Barcelona financial condition is unstable, but of course before Barcelona and the player sign a contract, there will be a mutual agreement regarding the amount of salary that will be received.
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July 26, 2022, 06:42:36 AM
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I think this rumor is related to Xavi's desire to bring Messi back to Camp Nou, Messi is a living legend for Barcelona, ​​the bond between Messi and Xavi is very strong. Xavi's wishes were conveyed to club president Joan Larpota.

Regarding this, I think it is not only financial problems that are an obstacle for Barcelona, ​​but it will be difficult to bring Messi to Camp Nou.
messi and barcelona relationship is not very good after the departure of messi last year, i am very interested in the continued development of this rumour.
If indeed this will happen. Messi, Lewandowski, Raphinha and Auba. Sounds like the avenger club but don't they think about the salary?
Sounds cliché but we still know that their main problem is still rooted in salary which could throw them upside down.
Indeed, in this case, it would be great if they could still be realistic and not push too hard.
Messi is back?
If that could happen of course barcelona would be the perfect club but I think it will be difficult for Xavi to arrange 3 great strikers in their front line later, because admitting it or not for sure these three players have the ego to be special or want to stay in the barcelona front line, I think the salary issue will indeed be a bit of a problem because Barcelona financial condition is unstable, but of course before Barcelona and the player sign a contract, there will be a mutual agreement regarding the amount of salary that will be received.
Xavi only wants and conveys about Messi retiring at Barcelona and that means, Xavi is not in a hurry to sign Messi. After all, Barcelona can wait until Messi's contract runs out at PSG but even then if PSG don't renew his contract. But then at least Xavi has conveyed his wish and hopefully it will come true, doesn't mean Xavi wants it in the current transfer window. Also, about the relationship between Messi and Barcelona will certainly be well maintained, how can you assume the relationship between the two is not good, that is a very inaccurate assumption.

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July 26, 2022, 07:02:52 AM
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Xavi only wants and conveys about Messi retiring at Barcelona and that means, Xavi is not in a hurry to sign Messi. After all, Barcelona can wait until Messi's contract runs out at PSG but even then if PSG don't renew his contract. But then at least Xavi has conveyed his wish and hopefully it will come true, doesn't mean Xavi wants it in the current transfer window. Also, about the relationship between Messi and Barcelona will certainly be well maintained, how can you assume the relationship between the two is not good, that is a very inaccurate assumption.
Now it looks like apart from his performance Indeed the name Messi has also definitely boosted the name of Barcelona to become a club that does have more resources there but as you said they will not be able to bring him at this time because of Messi's price and salary which is still difficult to get. they can make it happen this season.
They can still be with Messi if his contract expires but this may also be a bit difficult because even though Messi is quite old, his popularity is still needed.

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July 26, 2022, 07:45:27 AM
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I think this rumor is related to Xavi's desire to bring Messi back to Camp Nou, Messi is a living legend for Barcelona, ​​the bond between Messi and Xavi is very strong. Xavi's wishes were conveyed to club president Joan Larpota.

Regarding this, I think it is not only financial problems that are an obstacle for Barcelona, ​​but it will be difficult to bring Messi to Camp Nou.
messi and barcelona relationship is not very good after the departure of messi last year, i am very interested in the continued development of this rumour.
If indeed this will happen. Messi, Lewandowski, Raphinha and Auba. Sounds like the avenger club but don't they think about the salary?
Sounds cliché but we still know that their main problem is still rooted in salary which could throw them upside down.
Indeed, in this case, it would be great if they could still be realistic and not push too hard.
sound like trump-up rumors, 2 name first, Messi and Lewa are impossible to Camp Nou, because of financial problem like you said, but if we talk about Raphinha, it is happen because Barcelona is his dream. We know Chelsea is also interesting to bring him,  with 70 million euro but Barcelona deals only 58 euro with a bonus, which means Barcelona still have the charm to bring another player even with a low budget. but it's a different case with mess and Lewa, both still want to high salary, Barcelona must think twice to bring them,

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July 26, 2022, 08:39:16 AM
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There is an interesting situation right now. I have heard that Chelsea are preventing Barcelona from signing Marcos Alonso and Cesar Azpilicueta both. Because Barcelona also are going for Jules Kounde now. If Barcelona sign Kounde it looks like they will need to find new targets for left-back and right-back positions. Chelsea have been really unlucky with Barcelona so far. Barcelona can sign Kounde and cause Chelsea to be disappointed and frustrated again.
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July 26, 2022, 08:52:24 AM
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Messi is back?
If that could happen of course barcelona would be the perfect club but I think it will be difficult for Xavi to arrange 3 great strikers in their front line later, because admitting it or not for sure these three players have the ego to be special or want to stay in the barcelona front line, I think the salary issue will indeed be a bit of a problem because Barcelona financial condition is unstable, but of course before Barcelona and the player sign a contract, there will be a mutual agreement regarding the amount of salary that will be received.
I think for now Messi will not return to Barcelona. Because Messi is very comfortable at PSG so there is no need to return to Barcelona and so far Xavi has also not looked at Messi again for the Barcelona line of players. And I agree more with what you said about having the ego to be special between the three players. Because for the issue of salary each player can agree on it from the start before joining, but as for being special at the club, I don't think it can be agreed.

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July 26, 2022, 08:54:36 AM
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It's not going to happen, neither I do want him to return, It gives Barcelona the room to continue too build another era of your players. If Messi ever come back to Barcelona, it's probably going to be as coach or part of the board directors (I doubt he likes the board much anyways) but not as football player, the only problem is that he has just a year left of his deal with PSG summer 2023, he might move to England or perhaps go to South America leagues, If he has an incredible season then maybe PSG would offer an extension of the deal.
Now with the age factor both legendary players are having troubles for searching new clubs because Messi and Ronaldo both have two years contract which are going to end after this season with this search is already happening for their future with most chances Messi will be in South America and Ronaldo could be in Sporting Lisbon because they have very few choices but surely one thing can give these both players a good chance and it's incredible form in current season because with this these both could be in limelight and many clubs will be able to sign them for one or two years contract.

Now we have to watch their recent form and quality, can they bring good days back, or they have to stay under their limits.

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July 26, 2022, 10:43:59 AM
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There is an interesting situation right now. I have heard that Chelsea are preventing Barcelona from signing Marcos Alonso and Cesar Azpilicueta both. Because Barcelona also are going for Jules Kounde now. If Barcelona sign Kounde it looks like they will need to find new targets for left-back and right-back positions. Chelsea have been really unlucky with Barcelona so far. Barcelona can sign Kounde and cause Chelsea to be disappointed and frustrated again.
By what means did Chelsea prevent Barcelona from signing Marcos Alonso and Cesar Azpilicueta both? It seems even more intense the hunt for new players for every club at this point if any club makes a precaution like you say. In addition, Chelsea have also agreed with the Kounde price set by Sevilla. Then will Chelsea fail to get Kounde when Chelsea know that Barcelona are also after Kounde?
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I think this rumor is related to Xavi's desire to bring Messi back to Camp Nou, Messi is a living legend for Barcelona, ​​the bond between Messi and Xavi is very strong. Xavi's wishes were conveyed to club president Joan Larpota.

Regarding this, I think it is not only financial problems that are an obstacle for Barcelona, ​​but it will be difficult to bring Messi to Camp Nou.
messi and barcelona relationship is not very good after the departure of messi last year, i am very interested in the continued development of this rumour.
Some time ago Xavi had expressed his desire to bring Messi back to the Camp Nou, but that desire will not happen this season. Barcelona must wait until Messi's contract with PSG is finished in order to bring Messi home. It does not make sense that Barcelona should buy Messi from PSG, because when Messi went to PSG on a free transfer. The bond between Barcelona and Messi is still very strong, sooner or later Messi will return to Barcelona.

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July 26, 2022, 11:18:57 AM
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It's not going to happen, neither I do want him to return, It gives Barcelona the room to continue too build another era of your players. If Messi ever come back to Barcelona, it's probably going to be as coach or part of the board directors (I doubt he likes the board much anyways) but not as football player, the only problem is that he has just a year left of his deal with PSG summer 2023, he might move to England or perhaps go to South America leagues, If he has an incredible season then maybe PSG would offer an extension of the deal.
I'm just sure Messi will return to Barcelona not as a player but more likely as a coach or whatever. He may be able to join for free next season but only if he is willing to cut some of his hefty salary I doubt about that actually so there is little chance of seeing him as a Barcelona player again next season or the next.

PSG probably won't let him leave for free at the end of next season and it's possible that Messi will get another year on his contract before the end of this season. He looks more comfortable now at PSG and as we can see, Messi has also managed to score a few goals during this pre-season.

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Just look at this! Barcelona are really close to stealing Jules Kounde as well from Chelsea's hands.  Cheesy  Fabrizio Romano said that the player is likely to be prepared to agree personal terms with Barcelona. There is still no update about the Chelsea side. It is just really difficult to understand how this can happen. I mean that Barcelona have like an unlimited amount of money at the moment. I guess that they will sign him for a price like €50-60m. Their financial condition is getting worse while adding strong players to the team.

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1551277706976829441?s=20&t=oit92R3ATVr4QUnMfVqKQw

Barcelona are out of control  Grin In parallel with the mass signings of players, a scandal develops with De Jong, who refuses to take a pay cut. They increase the pressure on him, but so far he does not give in. And I hope he doesn't give up, because why the hell is the club actually asking him for money to immediately spend it on new players? This is complete nonsense.

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July 26, 2022, 11:52:28 AM
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Just look at this! Barcelona are really close to stealing Jules Kounde as well from Chelsea's hands.  Cheesy  Fabrizio Romano said that the player is likely to be prepared to agree personal terms with Barcelona. There is still no update about the Chelsea side. It is just really difficult to understand how this can happen. I mean that Barcelona have like an unlimited amount of money at the moment. I guess that they will sign him for a price like €50-60m. Their financial condition is getting worse while adding strong players to the team.

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1551277706976829441?s=20&t=oit92R3ATVr4QUnMfVqKQw

Barcelona are out of control  Grin In parallel with the mass signings of players, a scandal develops with De Jong, who refuses to take a pay cut. They increase the pressure on him, but so far he does not give in. And I hope he doesn't give up, because why the hell is the club actually asking him for money to immediately spend it on new players? This is complete nonsense.
Yes they are very active in the transfer market and you are right they are out of control, I hope they don't forget something difficult that might happen in the future.
Regarding Frenkie de Jong, I also hope that he will continue to fight for what is his right. So that he can receive full salary like the beginning of his contract.

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July 26, 2022, 12:01:31 PM
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Regarding this, I think it is not only financial problems that are an obstacle for Barcelona, ​​but it will be difficult to bring Messi to Camp Nou.
messi and barcelona relationship is not very good after the departure of messi last year, i am very interested in the continued development of this rumour.
Messi is under contract until 2023 with Xavi already trying to bring the player back to his home as much as possible. Of course Messi can still be competent and develop, it is even estimated that Messi's development at PSG is not significant. Because Messi has to share a seat. The passion that Xavi showed really led to the return of the El Clasico era. I think the opportunity is still wide open.

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July 26, 2022, 12:16:25 PM
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Barcelona are out of control  Grin In parallel with the mass signings of players, a scandal develops with De Jong, who refuses to take a pay cut. They increase the pressure on him, but so far he does not give in. And I hope he doesn't give up, because why the hell is the club actually asking him for money to immediately spend it on new players? This is complete nonsense.
Things in Barcelona are very strange. Their finance is very bad and they treat to their legendary players very bad Messi ie. De Jong is not their legendary player but his contribution is big enough. They try to continue the drama of De Jong and at the same time signing contract with some players.

They just get 400M from television rights and are trying to spend it carelessly. A few bad seasons will put Barcelona into another crisis in finance.

Messi is under contract until 2023 with Xavi already trying to bring the player back to his home as much as possible. Of course Messi can still be competent and develop, it is even estimated that Messi's development at PSG is not significant. Because Messi has to share a seat. The passion that Xavi showed really led to the return of the El Clasico era. I think the opportunity is still wide open.
Messi will likely to come home, return to Barcelona if he feels peacefully here. I think he has this feeling with Xavi on the coach position but not feel comfortable with Laporta. Anyway, he has to choose and it seems that if Messi rejects to come home, this time, his chance will be almost close. His career is come to ending and not much time left.

It will be perfect for Messi if he can win Champions League with PSG and return to Barcelona. Then with that return, he won't get much need to win Champions League, as one of his biggest target in ending time of his career.

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July 26, 2022, 12:30:20 PM
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Regarding this, I think it is not only financial problems that are an obstacle for Barcelona, ​​but it will be difficult to bring Messi to Camp Nou.
messi and barcelona relationship is not very good after the departure of messi last year, i am very interested in the continued development of this rumour.
Some media said that if Xavi was indeed interested in a reunion with his former partner, but for now it might be difficult to realize considering Messi still has a contract with PSG, I think maybe the end of next season could happen if Messi contract with PSG has been ended, so far I did not find any problems between messi and barcelona because previously both parties agreed to end the cooperation due to barcelona financial situation, I believe it is impossible because barcelona and Messi to end their togetherness all this time, then there a problem between them,  and I think Messi will certainly never hate the team that has been making his name so far.

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July 26, 2022, 01:08:25 PM
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Messi will likely to come home, return to Barcelona if he feels peacefully here. I think he has this feeling with Xavi on the coach position but not feel comfortable with Laporta. Anyway, he has to choose and it seems that if Messi rejects to come home, this time, his chance will be almost close. His career is come to ending and not much time left.

It will be perfect for Messi if he can win Champions League with PSG and return to Barcelona. Then with that return, he won't get much need to win Champions League, as one of his biggest target in ending time of his career.

For a giant club like PSG and with superstar players, it's actually very wide open. But with the current rivals the Champions League is really a hell zone. Lol

Yes, the hell zone next season is perfect, how can not every club that is considered a giant take advantage of the transfer market to have a ticket to the Champions League early.

Barcelona for Messi can still accept if he really will restore his tarnished name.

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July 26, 2022, 02:13:08 PM
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Messi is under contract until 2023 with Xavi already trying to bring the player back to his home as much as possible. Of course Messi can still be competent and develop, it is even estimated that Messi's development at PSG is not significant. Because Messi has to share a seat. The passion that Xavi showed really led to the return of the El Clasico era. I think the opportunity is still wide open.
Fo now, if Barcelona bring in Messi, they have to pay him at least equal tih his salary in PSG. And, they must pay for players that already out with free status, and buy him back. Its remind me with Pogba, LOL. With current financial condition, it will be hard for barcelona to bring in back Messi. Buying him will be expensive, don't forget, Messi's salary also very high, this is a difficult decision for Xavi.

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July 26, 2022, 02:22:49 PM
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Messi is under contract until 2023 with Xavi already trying to bring the player back to his home as much as possible. Of course Messi can still be competent and develop, it is even estimated that Messi's development at PSG is not significant. Because Messi has to share a seat. The passion that Xavi showed really led to the return of the El Clasico era. I think the opportunity is still wide open.
Fo now, if Barcelona bring in Messi, they have to pay him at least equal tih his salary in PSG. And, they must pay for players that already out with free status, and buy him back. Its remind me with Pogba, LOL. With current financial condition, it will be hard for barcelona to bring in back Messi. Buying him will be expensive, don't forget, Messi's salary also very high, this is a difficult decision for Xavi.
That doesn't make sense to bring back messi to the camp nou. Barcelona still owes salary from some of its players. This club can't even pay them. It's still in debt as well. Even selling some players to bring back messi will not solve the problem.
Xavi has been making some big transfer like rapinha, lewandowski, kounde. I heard the rumour of xavi was also trying to take chelsea's defensive player (azpilicueta).

How can xavi bring back messi to the camp nou if the club still has financial debt?

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