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August 22, 2019, 01:16:58 PM |
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Why would you give 40% discount to early investors? for what specific reason?, early investors discount or bonus is the start and fall of many projects. I consider giving 40% bonus to early investors as weired because this often leads to dumping upon listing and instead of project managers to recognize these investors are dumping, they turn to blame bounty hunters for dumping.
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Saisher
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August 22, 2019, 01:23:20 PM |
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Early investors are very important but we should not offer them a very high bonus, it's like an invitation to dump the coin in the future, the best offer is a unique concept that community will support, you can offer a bonus but never 40% high, only scam projects offer this kind of bonus.
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August 23, 2019, 03:06:46 PM |
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Imagine that 40% drops from the total cap of bitcoin market today, what do you think will happen to the market cap, and not to talk of when they dump their own investment itself, if they really want to test it, I mean to know the real cause of project dumping and crashing, then the same way that they have limited the percentage of bounty hunters is the same way that they need to limit the percentage that they give to these investors, which to me is quite too much and then they will see the effect of it on the market now.
If they can take this bold step, they will surely see a turn around and lower the rate at which these projects do dump. If investors are really interested in multiplying their money, then I feel the interest they get on their capital alone is enough.
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August 23, 2019, 03:08:39 PM |
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In some cases where a token price crashes soon after listing on the Exchange, the blames has over time been attributed to the bounty hunters and sometimes to early investors that received certain bonuses.
Do you think 40% bonus for early investors is too much and capable of crashing token price?
40% bonus is too much and unwanted. Its kind of killing their own tokens or coins. People will dump it as soon as listing. But blame will go to bounty and airdrop hunters and eventually get scammed.
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August 23, 2019, 03:14:48 PM |
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In some cases where a token price crashes soon after listing on the Exchange, the blames has over time been attributed to the bounty hunters and sometimes to early investors that received certain bonuses.
Do you think 40% bonus for early investors is too much and capable of crashing token price?
40% is huge for bonus purchases. The bonus should be below 25%, so there is no dump when the market is opened. but in fact many projects that even give a bonus of more than 50% at presales.
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August 23, 2019, 03:18:20 PM |
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Bonus is an attraction for investors to invest in the project, but unfortunately the bonus that reaches almost 40% could be a boomerang for the price of the ico token when the token is released in the market, and if an investor buys many tokens can imagine how many bonus tokens they can and of course this ultimately makes the price of tokens down in the market.
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August 23, 2019, 03:29:27 PM |
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I think the 40% bonus is quite high on token sales and maybe the team deliberately put a 40% bonus at the beginning of the sale or private sale so that it sold out quickly. Unfortunately, it affects the price reduction after being listed on the exchange.
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Vishnu.Reang
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August 23, 2019, 03:29:44 PM |
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In some cases where a token price crashes soon after listing on the Exchange, the blames has over time been attributed to the bounty hunters and sometimes to early investors that received certain bonuses.
Do you think 40% bonus for early investors is too much and capable of crashing token price?
I would never invest in any such projects (even if I get the 40% discount). If the project is worth investing in, then the promoters will never be this desperate. Giving 40% discount means that the promoters are not sure whether the ICO price is fair or not and they want to get at least some amount by any hook or crook. 5% or 10% is OK with me. But definitely not 40%.
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August 23, 2019, 03:33:03 PM |
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In some cases where a token price crashes soon after listing on the Exchange, the blames has over time been attributed to the bounty hunters and sometimes to early investors that received certain bonuses.
Do you think 40% bonus for early investors is too much and capable of crashing token price?
yeah i think it's huge even for presales investors though. 40% is a large amount, this will only make the price of the token fall when listing on the market. the project development team should rethink, ways to attract investors without the need to provide a large bonus.
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August 23, 2019, 03:34:05 PM |
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In some cases where a token price crashes soon after listing on the Exchange, the blames has over time been attributed to the bounty hunters and sometimes to early investors that received certain bonuses.
Do you think 40% bonus for early investors is too much and capable of crashing token price?
40% is huge for bonus purchases. The bonus should be below 25%, so there is no dump when the market is opened. but in fact many projects that even give a bonus of more than 50% at presales. It seems like now the project ico only thinking about how to attract as many investors as possible, so they give a big enough bonus in their presales, and projects like this only think about their sales, regardless of how their token price are in the future, and of course this is can be very detrimental to the holders of tokens themselves because it can be ascertained that with a bonus of that much it could have caused the price of token dump in the market
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August 23, 2019, 03:45:59 PM |
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They are early investors and they do deserve some kind of benefit. If people don't like those price crash, then why don't they become an early investor, grab those 40% bonus. Sell those as soon as they are listed in an exchange and then buy back those token at lower price if they are willing to hold those tokens. People just crying about those price crash are plain stupid. Of course it is going to crash. Doesn't matter if early investors get 40% or 20% bonus, they will dump it to make sure they don't lose any profit!
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August 23, 2019, 03:55:15 PM |
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In some cases where a token price crashes soon after listing on the Exchange, the blames has over time been attributed to the bounty hunters and sometimes to early investors that received certain bonuses.
Do you think 40% bonus for early investors is too much and capable of crashing token price?
That is a great idea to get more investors in the project no matter what will happen to the price because they will study thay already before they will offer the 40%. Crashing of a price after of a token sale is normal, if the project is legit it will stay and proceed to next stepping stone .
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August 23, 2019, 04:02:42 PM |
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Pass the blame is the most common solution to escape from blaming yourself or the team. Hunters are easy target for the whales when the project is promising but it is also the only one to blame when tokens price decrease. Who is the to blame hunters, managers, investors, or the core team management? I think it depends upon the situation.
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August 23, 2019, 04:17:43 PM |
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I believe it's very huge and this could be the motivation behind why the cost toward the start of the posting fell, however at times there are likewise ico and ieo who appropriate rewards a couple of months after their tokens are recorded on the trade yet the cost is as yet dumping and as I would like to think this relies upon their task not a reward factor
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August 23, 2019, 04:24:15 PM |
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I think that a 40 percent bonus to early investors is too much. Thus, the project team stimulates the rapid sale of received tokens on the exchange and the price of this token drops. There should be a mechanism to stimulate its retention, and not sale. Now, almost investors and bounty hunters are aimed at a profitable sale of the received tokens and are not interested in holding them. In my opinion, the situation will not change until the approach to the profitability of the token changes. The project teams, in my opinion, need to provide for passive income, that is, dividends from holding tokens. Then their holders will not be interested in selling them.
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August 23, 2019, 04:24:24 PM |
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Do you think 40% bonus for early investors is too much and capable of crashing token price?
Yes. I do think that high bonuses can have a heavy negative impact. 40% certainly falls into that category. It's almost a guarantee. If someone is offered a 40% bonus, and then they are able to sell even slightly below ICO price once the coin hits the exchanges, then it's basically free money. But when coins hit exchanges the volumes are often quite low, so this does amplify the effect. If most people who bought at ICO are just sitting on their coins without even sending them to an exchange, then the early investor profit-seekers have more of an effect on price. Another point to consider is that if a coin doesn't hit hardcap, then that means supply exceeds demand, which means an almost certain price drop anyway as soon as it is tradeable, regardless of whether any early bonus was offered.
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August 23, 2019, 10:35:36 PM |
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In some cases where a token price crashes soon after listing on the Exchange, the blames has over time been attributed to the bounty hunters and sometimes to early investors that received certain bonuses.
Do you think 40% bonus for early investors is too much and capable of crashing token price?
40% is huge for bonus purchases. The bonus should be below 25%, so there is no dump when the market is opened. but in fact many projects that even give a bonus of more than 50% at presales. It seems like now the project ico only thinking about how to attract as many investors as possible, so they give a big enough bonus in their presales, and projects like this only think about their sales, regardless of how their token price are in the future, and of course this is can be very detrimental to the holders of tokens themselves because it can be ascertained that with a bonus of that much it could have caused the price of token dump in the market of course there will be people who benefit and are disadvantaged, if a large bonus can be given to investors. especially their token holders only become spectators after getting the tokens they have when tokens enter the market because of the possibility that investors can easily dispose of their tokens, the goal is to get benefits first The purpose of the giving away free bonuses to the early investment makers is obviously clear, the disadvantages will speed up the process of dumping. If teams can't manage the market rate, the interventions will be illogical in my opinion. Speculators are everywhere, no way to solve this problem. The speculators are not usually interested to value the project, crypto teams know this fact.
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August 23, 2019, 10:59:35 PM |
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40% is too much for early investors because at the end the early investors will almost kill the project upon listing on an exchange by dumping those tokens.
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August 23, 2019, 11:46:02 PM |
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40% bonus if given to the initial investor who invests in a Cryptocurrency project is not a problem, because it is done to attract investors, provided it is given only to the first 10 people or to the first 50 people who invest. But if too many participants are given a big bonus it will greatly affect the release of tokens on the market.
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August 24, 2019, 10:19:57 AM |
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instead in my opinion is the right percentage for early investors who risk so much by investing in a project that is not known if it will succeed or not, so it is easy to invest later when already a little is outlined for the trend of the ico
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