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April 13, 2014, 03:39:23 PM |
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Who killed him? Right sector, or the pro-Russians?
This man (with Kalashnikov in hands) was killed many hours before (Vesti.ru precise, that was a innocent fisherman), another alive man was found in car, he told, that was kidnapped on motorway (maybe lie). Killed was maybe a eyewitness of something or propaganda trick of special forces from Kiev.
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April 13, 2014, 04:00:06 PM |
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Observers from OSCE arrived to Slavjansk: http://slavgorod.com.ua/News/Article/802http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2451976Representatives from Poland said that Ukrainians must themselves resolve the issue without bloodshed. The car with the representatives was stopped and surrounded by citizens. Their IDs were checked and they were asked to wait a little. Citizens don't want to lead them behind the barricades. Some commentators remind that OSCE representatives acted as spies for NATO prior to air strikes against Yugoslavia.
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April 13, 2014, 04:17:23 PM Last edit: April 13, 2014, 04:33:31 PM by Nemo1024 |
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NEWSFLASH: Ukrainian Security Council launches full-scale security op in eastern regionsAnd so it starts. Kiev decided to perform a large special operation in South-East (which they call for anti-terrorist) invloving armed forces of Ukraine: http://rt.com/news/kiev-clashes-rioters-police-571/http://ria.ru/world/20140413/1003740877.htmlI think Kiev ordered these strikes on Kerry's orders after this: http://rt.com/news/lavrov-kerry-ukraine-talks-200/The army and ops has orders to shoot anyone who carries St.George ribbon or "looks threatening".
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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April 13, 2014, 04:22:20 PM |
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How many times they've already run this operation? I've lost count...
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April 13, 2014, 04:31:05 PM Last edit: April 13, 2014, 04:45:48 PM by Nemo1024 |
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Who killed him? Right sector, or the pro-Russians?
This man (with Kalashnikov in hands) was killed many hours before (Vesti.ru precise, that was a innocent fisherman), another alive man was found in car, he told, that was kidnapped on motorway (maybe lie). Killed was maybe a eyewitness of something or propaganda trick of special forces from Kiev. 12:51 Кoppecпoндeнт Life News Cepгeй Гoляндин в пpямoм в эфиpe: "Cтpeльбa, пpoизoшeдшaя в пяти килoмeтpax oт Cлaвянcкa, — этo пpoвoкaция. Taм нaxoдилиcь yкpaинcкиe вoeнныe, и aктивиcты, гoтoвившиecя oбopoнятcя. Ha мecтo пoдъexaл «Peнo» бeлoгo цвeтa, из нeгo вышли тpи чeтыpe чeлoвeкa и oткpыли oгoнь пo aктивиcтaм, нa aвтoмaтax были глyшитeли. Oдин из aктивиcтoв был paнeн. Укpaинcкиe вoeннocлyжaщиe в мoмeнт cтpeльбы выexaли нa бтp к тpacce, нo cтpeлявшиe yбeжaли в лec. Taм вoeнныe нaшли тpyп, нo oн был xoлoдный, тo ecть oн нe пoгиб здecь, a eгo пpивeзли cюдa cпeциaльнo. Cтpeлявшиe пoкa нe зaдepжaны" Shooting 5 kilometres from Slavjansk was a provocation. There were both Ukrainian army and protesters preparing for defence there. A white Renault arrived and three people wish silenced machine guns exited, opening fire against the activists. One activist was wounded. Ukrainian troopers drove the APC to the scene of shooting, but the gunmen ran by that time to the woods. There the military found a cold body of a man, who didn't die there, but was dumped there as part of the provocation. In other news: Avakov vowed to take Slavjansk before the day is over or to shoot himself. All available forces are thrown against that city. http://politobzor.net/show-17605-avakov-poklyalsya-do-2400-vzyat-slavyansk-ili-zastrelitsya.htmlPeople in the South-East are cheering his courage and urge him to start preparing his gun. There are further confirmations that CIA's Brennan indeed visited Ukraine incognito and had meetings with leaders of special ops, before the suppression operation in South-East was announced: http://ria.ru/world/20140413/1003732800.html
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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April 13, 2014, 05:06:47 PM |
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Updates:
Clashes between pro-EU and pro-Russian groups in Zaporyzhia. Fierce battle in Slavyansk. Right Sector terrorists also involved. Unidentified number of pro-Russians killed in Slavyansk. Reports of Ukrainian soldiers defecting near Slavyansk. Policemen in Odessa marching around with St. George ribbons on their hands.
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April 13, 2014, 05:40:23 PM |
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Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs demands the "Maidan proteges" who toppled the legitimate president of the country to stop the war on people and follow the agreement signed on the 21st of February, and witnessed by the Western supporters of these proteges, as well as USA should bring under control their puppets and force them to distance themselves from the neo-Nazis. The possibility to avoid Civil war depends now solely on the West: http://itar-tass.com/politika/1118032?utm_medium=rss20Ukrainian reserve battalion, counting 350 reserve fighters, of the National Guard moved out Eastwards: http://www.bfm.ru/news/254341?doctype=news
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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April 13, 2014, 05:48:13 PM |
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Oleksandr Turchynov just announced that he will use the army to retake Donetsk and other rebel provinces. Ukraine sliding towards another civil war, with unrest spreading to Zaporizhia and Odessa.
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April 13, 2014, 05:54:23 PM Last edit: April 13, 2014, 06:11:27 PM by Nemo1024 |
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I wonder how long before Putin invokes the special decree and orders Russian troops to march into Ukraine. After all NATO invaded Kosovo on much shakier pretexts. And here Russian troops would be greeted as liberators. I think Putin will wait - with the rate Ukrainian forces "defect" to the side of the people, there soon won't be much left of Ukrainian army, so the people of Ukraine might stand a chance of resolving the problem internally (at substantial human life costs). Nalivajchenko from SBU says the special operation against people of Donetsk will start at night on the 14th of April. http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/04/13/n_6080485.shtmlI am reminded of another dawn, at 4:30, on the 22nd of June 1941. Seems Nazis like dawns...
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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April 13, 2014, 09:19:10 PM |
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I wonder how long before Putin invokes the special decree and orders Russian troops to march into Ukraine.
At this moment local activists reduced danger of neo nazi pogrom.
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April 13, 2014, 09:22:53 PM |
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In other news:
Hard to understand, but man with assault rifle can be attacker. Some "Kiev secret service" operation going bad.
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April 13, 2014, 09:41:45 PM |
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Hmmm... Kiev prepares ‘armed provocations’ to discredit pro-federation forces, Russiahttp://rt.com/news/provocation-kiev-federation-ukraine-296/“According to our information, in eastern regions of Ukraine provocations are being planned near the border in order to discredit the military personnel of the Russian Federation,” Vitaly Zakharchenko said in Rostov on Don during a press conference with ousted President Victor Yanukovich. OSCE monitors visit Slavyansk, expected to submit reporthttp://rt.com/news/osce-ukraine-protests-report-284/And a comment: Blazkowicz Inc. 13.04.2014 21:36
Consider that these observers might be there to just report to the Kiev authorities details about the uprising so they can attack the protesters from superior positions. Legitimate spies so to speak.
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April 13, 2014, 09:50:00 PM |
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I remember very close, how to begin Kosovo "liberation". Albanian Terrorists shoot at Serbian state police twice, and on bigger forces they declared for press, that they are under Serbian pressure.
Shit, that secret services/terrorist groups and politics can do is big.
Any sort of provocation can be made.
"Western" press, radio and TV transmit disinformation.
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April 13, 2014, 10:06:39 PM |
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The guys are saying that the only want a federation type of state, just like in Germany (or Austria or Switzerland or US), but get stamped by Kiev as separatists and terrorists. They further tell the history the local Cossack regiment that they are descendants of. And they are angered that Right Sector only has to say a word, and new laws are enacted, pardoning Right Sector Maidaners, releasing prisoners, etc...
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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April 13, 2014, 10:09:38 PM |
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American UAV over Dnepr river in Dnepropetrovsk:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRxoqJUt0gwCan someone confirm geography?
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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April 13, 2014, 10:35:12 PM |
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Can someone confirm geography?
This youtube publisher seems be local. Wait on comments there.
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