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May 28, 2014, 01:28:33 AM
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I can't wait to get my shipping notification!!!!

Got my notification yesterday.   Grin

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May 28, 2014, 01:31:48 AM
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In case anybody missed this, frozencpu.com now takes BTC.

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May 28, 2014, 02:03:11 AM
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No idea but $30 to ship a single fan is absurd.

I agree.  Look for some old server fans on that big auction website.
I prefer Nidec fans, but pick the ones you like. 
For example a Nidec 4 wire, ta450DC 3.3A fan is capable of 220 CFM at full power (it does sound like a jet engine).  But any good PWM (4 wire) fan speed controller can balance sound and cooling.  These fans will give excellent pressure across any liquid cooling radiator, much better than stock.  You may need some longer mounting screws since these are typically 38mm thick. 

The best part is they are about $10 shipped and will run forever since they were designed for servers

Here is the spec on my favorite (its the 12V model)
http://www.nidecpg.com/fanpdfs/va450dcf.pdf

Search that auction site for 364517-001 (the HP model number)
Here is an example of two for $10
http://r.ebay.com/tzLipQ

Again this is just my .02, and YMMV.
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May 28, 2014, 02:07:06 AM
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In case anybody missed this, frozencpu.com now takes BTC.

It was blowing up all over reddit  Wink

Yeah, that's where I got it. Just sayin.

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May 28, 2014, 03:18:23 PM
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What is the rated current for powering Fans? i.e. what's the largest Amp rating fan I can put on the board? 1amp?
I assume there are 2 fan headers on the board of the Habanero to power 2 fans? (+ another one for pump)

I am tossing up between these 2 fans:

Sunon 120mmx25mm PMD1212PTB1-A(2).F.GN-3pin fan
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Sunon-PMD1212PTB1-A-2-F-GN-120mm-x-25mm-3pin-Extreme-Hi-spee-150CFM-Case-Fan-/170932274187?pt=US_Computer_Case_Fans&hash=item27cc5b840b
Rated Current: 1.0 Amp

or

Sanyo San Ace 120mm 109R1212H1011, 120x38mm-3pin TAC Sensor, Hi-speed 2600RPM, 102.5cfm
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Sanyo-San-Ace-120mm-109R1212H1071-vs-109R1212H1011-12VDC-Fan-Best-WalterCool-/170907956839?pt=US_Water_Cooling&hash=item27cae87667
Rated Current: 0.52 Amp

Planning on sticking the fans on a Corsair H100i or H105. Any idea on the difference between these 2 model Corsairs?

Also considering going BIG.. and getting the Corsair H110 with 140mm fans, but i can't seem to find 140mm server fans on ebay.

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You'll probably be limited more by the connector on a single fan than anything else, but you should try and keep the total for fans/pumps under 4A or so. The fans are fed from the merging of the four 12V rails through some 5A low-drop diodes. You'll likely get some current sharing between the diodes, but due to the way diodes work at high temperatures it's best to assume a worst case that all the current would go through a single one of the diodes. 50W of cooling should be enough for any normal situation.

If you want to hook up six 250cfm screamers in push-pull across a triple radiator, pumped by a 1/3HP 3300GPH sump pump, you should hook that up direct to the power supply. Wink Also, I want pictures.
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May 28, 2014, 09:35:20 PM
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right.. seeing as I can't find the current rating for the Corsair pumps. I'm going to assume the following combinations will be right to run off the board:
  • Corsair H80i   + 1 x Sunon 150CFM 1A Fan
  • Corsair H100i + 2 x Sanyo 102CFM 0.5A Fan
About to hit check out on fans and pumps but my Habanero status is still processing...

What's the eta Mr Teal and Gateway? How long till the boards and chips are shipped? ie. When will all of batch 1 be shipped?

Cheers,
QG


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May 28, 2014, 10:11:58 PM
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right.. seeing as I can't find the current rating for the Corsair pumps. I'm going to assume the following combinations will be right to run off the board:
  • Corsair H80i   + 1 x Sunon 150CFM 1A Fan
  • Corsair H100i + 2 x Sanyo 102CFM 0.5A Fan
About to hit check out on fans and pumps but my Habanero status is still processing...

What's the eta Mr Teal and Gateway? How long till the boards and chips are shipped? ie. When will all of batch 1 be shipped?

Cheers,
QG

Batch 1 is going out this week as fast as we can get them done and hopefully batch 1 will be all shipped by the end of the week.

As for fans, at my home testing station Im using a OEM H80i with a San Ace 120 12v fan and a 850 Watt Seasonic PSU.



The default fans on any of the commercial coolers you can get just don't do the job IF you plan on really pushing the board to its max, and also prob not good to have a single radiator.
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May 29, 2014, 02:01:09 AM
Last edit: May 29, 2014, 04:22:05 AM by nexus99
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Order still processing here.

Notes have been added to my order which look like chip serial numbers and board numbers.
My order was May 11 for those keeping track.
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May 29, 2014, 02:56:56 AM
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I should be getting mine tomorrow.
Is the die temp tool available yet? How about recommended initial cgminer settings?

I bought 1 Cool Master Nepton 280 and 1 Cool Master Glacer 240 to compare, and I'll post my findings with stock fans. Cooler Master claims 4.1mmH2O static pressure, much better than the Corsair stock fans.
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May 29, 2014, 04:42:21 AM
Last edit: May 29, 2014, 04:53:11 AM by nexus99
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I should be getting mine tomorrow.
Is the die temp tool available yet? How about recommended initial cgminer settings?

I bought 1 Cool Master Nepton 280 and 1 Cool Master Glacer 240 to compare, and I'll post my findings with stock fans. Cooler Master claims 4.1mmH2O static pressure, much better than the Corsair stock fans.

I am going to go with 2 of the Glacier 240's for my two cards. Pulling the trigger now.

EDIT Ordered these from Frozen CPU with BTC. That was cool :-) (Cool, get it?)
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May 29, 2014, 06:31:20 AM
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I should be getting mine tomorrow.
Is the die temp tool available yet? How about recommended initial cgminer settings?

I bought 1 Cool Master Nepton 280 and 1 Cool Master Glacer 240 to compare, and I'll post my findings with stock fans. Cooler Master claims 4.1mmH2O static pressure, much better than the Corsair stock fans.

Ill try to get a write up done tomorrow on the blog but in short here is what I usually start with, oh and make sure to use fan connector 4 for now.

cgminer --hfa-fan 100 --hfa-temp-target 0 --hfa-temp-overheat 110 --hfa-fail-drop 0 --hfa-hash-clock <number>

I usually start at 500 to adjust the cooling head with our tool I hope to release in the next day or so, then once I have the right amount of  pressure on each corner I crank it up to 850-900 depending on how well your cooling system is.

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May 29, 2014, 08:10:27 AM
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I'm Planing to use one triple radiator, 2 cooling blocks and 600l/h pump for 2 boards would that be enough ?

First board will get cold water but I'm worried about second one because #2 will get hot water from a board #1.

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May 29, 2014, 08:28:56 AM
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cgminer --hfa-fan 100 --hfa-temp-target 0 --hfa-temp-overheat 110 --hfa-fail-drop 0 --hfa-hash-clock <number>

Gateway is it wise to be running temps over 100c (ie. boiling point) in a closed loop water cooler? I've got my boards at 99C overheat.

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May 29, 2014, 09:59:05 AM
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cgminer --hfa-fan 100 --hfa-temp-target 0 --hfa-temp-overheat 110 --hfa-fail-drop 0 --hfa-hash-clock <number>

Gateway is it wise to be running temps over 100c (ie. boiling point) in a closed loop water cooler? I've got my boards at 99C overheat.
The temperature is measured at the chip, so it is highly unlikely that the actual water temperature is 100°C when the chips says 100°C.

However, you shouldn´t need to worry if you get a good enough pump and high cfm fans on the radiator.
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May 29, 2014, 02:49:34 PM
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Boards came in yesterday, thank you very much!

Question about setup:

I am using the h100i to cool the board. Is the following setup correct?

Pump: plug in 3 pin from pump

Fan 1: plug in fan 1

Fan 3: plug in fan 2

Fan 4: nothing

Do I need two USB cords for the two USB connections?

I plan on upgrading the fans since they aren't strong enough to push the board to the max.



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May 29, 2014, 03:36:54 PM
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Boards came in yesterday, thank you very much!

Question about setup:

I am using the h100i to cool the board. Is the following setup correct?

Pump: plug in 3 pin from pump

Fan 1: plug in fan 1

Fan 3: plug in fan 2

Fan 4: nothing

Do I need two USB cords for the two USB connections?

I plan on upgrading the fans since they aren't strong enough to push the board to the max.

I would use Fan4 for one fan, and Fan3 for the other. There's a small bug in the released firmware that causes Fan2 to PWM at 50% all the time. There will be a FW update coming to fix that here shortly, along with the release of the tool to change voltages.
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May 29, 2014, 03:43:11 PM
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Thank you!

What about the usb's?

Additionally,

What does normal operation look like on the red LED's?

The stock h100i has a 3 pin and Sata attached to the pump. After I plug the 3 pin into the board do I plug the Sata into the psu?
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May 29, 2014, 03:56:12 PM
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Thank you!

What about the usb's?

Additionally,

What does normal operation look like on the red LED's?

The stock h100i has a 3 pin and Sata attached to it. After I plug the 3 pin into the board do I plug the Sata into the psu?
Yeah, if the H100i is like the H80i, the SATA provides power to the pump and you need it plugged in. It's kind of a PITA with the design of the Corsair coolers, IMO. Makes it harder to use a server PSU.
For USB, you can use either port but not both. There's just two to allow easier access with different mounting arrangements.

I'll put together a more formal document here soon, but the LEDs are grouped into four main categories. Beside each PCIe power input there's an LED which indicates whether there is voltage present on those plugs. On the right hand side of the board (away from USB) there is another LED by the 7V (actually 6.8V) power supply and test point that indicates that voltage rail is working. On the side of the board with the USB, there is one more LED by the 3.3V power supply and test point that indicates that the 3.3V rail is powered up.

Lastly, there is a row of 8 LEDs that are general indicators. Right now the top four light up when the board is on and running, and the bottom four will light up when the low voltage power supplies have been requested to be turned on. We'll probably fold more debugging information into those going forward, once we finalize all the information that we want to display.
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May 29, 2014, 05:40:45 PM
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Order still processing here.

Notes have been added to my order which look like chip serial numbers and board numbers.

Boards have shipped. I got in at the very end of batch 1 so if I am shipping most everyone else should be shipping too.

My order was May 11 for those keeping track.

These shipped before my Black Arrow orders... Well done Mr. Teal and Gateway. It looks like this is a product that you can keep in production for a while as well. I know I will be ordering more over time.
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May 29, 2014, 06:06:06 PM
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Sorry to shill, but it's context-pertinent in PSU discussions. We're running a sale on the 750W PSUs, down to $55 for a full kit. Those PSUs will reliably source 800W without issue off a 110V line, and can be load-balanced for combined greater outputs (not that that's necessary with this board, great idea with the independent rails by the way).

Looking forward to scrounging up enough coin to fetch one of these boards. I've not done any PC-type watercooling so it'll be an experiment for sure, but it appears to be good hardware.

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