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June 24, 2022, 10:09:50 PM
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Actually I was planning to make a bet on the winner of Wimbledon on sportsbet.io today. But as the odds have gone down very seriously I changed my mind. You can compare it to the odds above that rdbase shared yesterday. I hope that we can have the previous odds back otherwise I'd be really sad for missing it.  Cry
Fair point here, we will not get better odds. Odds adjust with each bet placed on outcome. Sportsbet raised the number of bets on Djoković a lot with this promo and skewed the odds.

I wanted to prove my theory by checking the odds on Stake which uses same odds provider (same odds) and they have 1.67 on Djoković. Actually I just checked the odds and Stake has much better odds on everybody. There is something wrong with this and I'll ask them on live support. As it stands nobody would place a bet on outright on Sportsbet, there must be some mistake here or really big margin cause of the promo.

Usualy odds comparison is in small favor of Stake, but then you turn that boost and Sportsbet gets in the lead by some margin. At least it was like that last time I checked. This will make me check again. Hell FAA pays double on Stake Smiley
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That was an interesting experiment on how the number of bets placed does infact change the odds considerably in this instance.
I remember, if my memory serves me correctly, that there was someone trying to tell players who were betting for a match on their chat this does not in anyway alter the way the odds for the markets are showing up.
Well then how can this be explained if they do not influence them in anyway and vegas bookmakers are the ones who have those odds and post them up just as they are?
As I had mentioned in my previous post when I placed my bet for the promotion, I first saw the odds @1.71 then waited a day and placed it @1.73x:

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June 25, 2022, 06:41:07 AM
Last edit: June 25, 2022, 07:45:38 AM by Trofo
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That was an interesting experiment on how the number of bets placed does infact change the odds considerably in this instance.
I remember, if my memory serves me correctly, that there was someone trying to tell players who were betting for a match on their chat this does not in anyway alter the way the odds for the markets are showing up.
Well then how can this be explained if they do not influence them in anyway and vegas bookmakers are the ones who have those odds and post them up just as they are?
Odds get made in following way.
Every bookie uses odds provider, that is a service that issues odds globally, they track global changes and use algorithms to set them in the first place. They also update them from time to time to reflect changes when users find value and bet heavy on one outcome. Means they missed initial odds.

Then the bookie adds their margin to the odds and drop outcomes much faster if they get heavy betting on the favorite. But that drop means that odds on outsider go up which is not the case in this instance of Wimbledon. Something went wrong in this case.

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June 25, 2022, 10:30:11 AM
 #3563

^^
But from what I understood these factors you have mentioned are different for betting exchanges such as fairlay and betfair.
The odds going down significantly kind of made it felt this way with the outcome of everyone piling their bets on Djokovic all at the same time.

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June 25, 2022, 03:47:03 PM
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^^
But from what I understood these factors you have mentioned are different for betting exchanges such as fairlay and betfair.
The odds going down significantly kind of made it felt this way with the outcome of everyone piling their bets on Djokovic all at the same time.
There are usually even greater swings on betting exchanges due to smaller liquidity and no central authority to take part of the risk.


Anyway, as I suspected and wrote before, there has been a mistake from Sportsbet side in regards to outright Wimbledon odds. All taken care off now with the help of my buddy Steve, best forum representative I had the pleasure to meet so far Smiley

Hope nobody placed the bets in the meantime, the odds are now back to the previous state with a little boost on top which makes them maybe even the best in the market. I did not check many bookies but they are better then Stake now, and better then my favorite local bookie.


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June 25, 2022, 06:31:10 PM
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Hope nobody placed the bets in the meantime, the odds are now back to the previous state with a little boost on top which makes them maybe even the best in the market. I did not check many bookies but they are better then Stake now, and better then my favorite local bookie.

Glad that I waited



I didnt place any bets when I checked the page for the very first time then when I decided to place it, the odds went down so I thought I would skip this since its kinda not EV+ anymore with that low odds. Sweet 1.81 odds with little boost, we now need Djokovic to win the entire tournament then its going to be a great outcome for all of us

Imagine hitting bonus rounds later on with those free spins

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June 25, 2022, 06:54:00 PM
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But from what I understood these factors you have mentioned are different for betting exchanges such as fairlay and betfair.
The odds going down significantly kind of made it felt this way with the outcome of everyone piling their bets on Djokovic all at the same time.
There are usually even greater swings on betting exchanges due to smaller liquidity and no central authority to take part of the risk.


Anyway, as I suspected and wrote before, there has been a mistake from Sportsbet side in regards to outright Wimbledon odds. All taken care off now with the help of my buddy Steve, best forum representative I had the pleasure to meet so far Smiley

Hope nobody placed the bets in the meantime, the odds are now back to the previous state with a little boost on top which makes them maybe even the best in the market. I did not check many bookies but they are better then Stake now, and better then my favorite local bookie.


Thank you for conveying this problem in the name of us to Steve/Sportsbet.io. I can make my long-term bets by high odds relievedly from now on. I really don't see any other website getting close to the odds on Sportsbet.io when I compare them.

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No tennis bets for me guys,,, always losing only now, and time to take a week break as I also lost some money somewhere else where I bet. And today just finished a huge losing streak at blackjack, which was pretty idiotic as I normally do not bet like that when I am working.

10 minute coffee betting break became one of the most expensive 'free coffee' breaks I ever had in a long time  Angry

Good luck to everyone today, save some money for July Wink

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June 28, 2022, 01:54:31 PM
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There were those who took the promo for Wimbledon saying they received a 10USDT free bet yesterday.
The terms and conditions did say the free spins for the slots game selected would be awarded the next day at 15gmt.
So another hour and a bit before they should be there.
I do believe these free bets in tether were for those players who have been active lately as a reward for placing bets.

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June 28, 2022, 02:58:36 PM
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There were those who took the promo for Wimbledon saying they received a 10USDT free bet yesterday.
The terms and conditions did say the free spins for the slots game selected would be awarded the next day at 15gmt.
So another hour and a bit before they should be there.
I do believe these free bets in tether were for those players who have been active lately as a reward for placing bets.
Nothing in USDT for me and I am quite active. I did however receive a couple of free bets in mBTC.

Those free spins for Wimbledon promo were credited to my account and I just used them. Results were in line with what I expect from slot machines - 20cents in total. And then somebody asks me why i don do slots Smiley If you don't see free spins, click on casino part and you will have notification there or go to promo and click on the game name there.

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June 28, 2022, 03:36:51 PM
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^ Yeah, I don't got nothing against slots, I know some people go crazy over them, and all that. Never spent a single cent on them online or physical, not even for the heck of it. Just can't really bring myself to do it for some strange reason (I buy lotteries which is probably an even dumber idea so it's not like I've got any standards).

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0.05 mbtc, yeah I definitely prefer freebets heh

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June 28, 2022, 04:23:33 PM
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And then somebody asks me why i don do slots Smiley

Well some slots are made to give decent return through normal spins though but in this case, the gladiator legends slot has 96.31% RTP which means that its kinda on a higher side for the house edge and we really need to land bonus rounds through those free spins in order to get a decent return from the slots which is kinda lame



Anyway does anyone have information on wether we can stacks those free spins or not? kinda feel that we might have better chance with higher number of spins

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June 28, 2022, 11:47:41 PM
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And then somebody asks me why i don do slots Smiley

Well some slots are made to give decent return through normal spins though but in this case, the gladiator legends slot has 96.31% RTP which means that its kinda on a higher side for the house edge and we really need to land bonus rounds through those free spins in order to get a decent return from the slots which is kinda lame



Anyway does anyone have information on wether we can stacks those free spins or not? kinda feel that we might have better chance with higher number of spins
Not to sure you can stack them but once the 25 spins are up I would imagine you can just re enter the game and your next set of free spins will appear.
But understand what you mean. Better to have them all in the same round.

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June 29, 2022, 12:10:46 AM
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Nothing in USDT for me and I am quite active. I did however receive a couple of free bets in mBTC.
The same for me no USDT coupon, maybe it's only for the USDT peeps. I remember steve announced the random drops in the main thread and luckily I got a bunch of them as well.

For the free spins, I got around 0.66 EUR nothing crazy, most of them were dead spins then at the last few spins I got one of those versus symbols that boost my winning by 0.4 EUR.  Tongue

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June 29, 2022, 06:44:41 AM
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Anyway does anyone have information on wether we can stacks those free spins or not? kinda feel that we might have better chance with higher number of spins
Not to sure you can stack them but once the 25 spins are up I would imagine you can just re enter the game and your next set of free spins will appear.
But understand what you mean. Better to have them all in the same round.

You can stack them, I have done so before for freespin promos, they will all just keep as your bonus spins until you use them,,, the only thing is to watch in your Rewards tab in Casino side, to check for validity of those freespins. And take care of the date, as I got my lesson from it before. The Date shown is not included, they expire before the date.

So for example if Date says 30 June (tomorrow) means you have until today 29 June to use them.

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June 29, 2022, 10:09:56 AM
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Did only bad choices last night on both Copa Liberdatores and  Copa Sudamericana as neither of my bets hit and was frustrating night overall Sad. Today we have another wave of games from this two competitions and my predictions would be that we might see a lot of games with both teams to score which we didn't see last night.

Tolima - Flamengo both to score 1st half or 2nd half.

The Strongest - Ceara - both to score 1st half or 2nd half.

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June 29, 2022, 10:27:17 AM
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Nothing in USDT for me and I am quite active. I did however receive a couple of free bets in mBTC.
The same for me no USDT coupon, maybe it's only for the USDT peeps. I remember steve announced the random drops in the main thread and luckily I got a bunch of them as well.

For the free spins, I got around 0.66 EUR nothing crazy, most of them were dead spins then at the last few spins I got one of those versus symbols that boost my winning by 0.4 EUR.
I don't believe these free bets were only given out for USDT players this time around cause I never have deposited tether on the site before and have only used this currency when they are given out.
Let's just chalk it up as random drops and quell it as that.

Anyway does anyone have information on wether we can stacks those free spins or not? kinda feel that we might have better chance with higher number of spins
Not to sure you can stack them but once the 25 spins are up I would imagine you can just re enter the game and your next set of free spins will appear.
But understand what you mean. Better to have them all in the same round.
You can stack them, I have done so before for freespin promos, they will all just keep as your bonus spins until you use them,,, the only thing is to watch in your Rewards tab in Casino side, to check for validity of those freespins. And take care of the date, as I got my lesson from it before. The Date shown is not included, they expire before the date.

So for example if Date says 30 June (tomorrow) means you have until today 29 June to use them.
Good observation leea-1334.
I think that makes the most sense when it comes to free spins.
Also to remember that the site works on GMT timezone. So for me the cut off time when it states at midnight is actually around 7-8pm my time as I have noticed when the vip rank resets for the beginning of every month.

Here is the what the free spins for the Wimbledon promotion on every win that Djokovic has looks like:


It is for this slots game with the amount allowed per spin:

Got 1.68 euros for my round of free spins. I wanted to play with the balance, it defaulted to 1.00 euro per spin.
When I went to the options screen to search to lower the amount per spins back to 0.20 there wasn't one.
Didn't spend much time to configure it since I was on a mobile so ended up putting it on the WTA matches which were still in progress.
Just my luck Serena lost on the last leg of that parlay.

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June 29, 2022, 07:56:13 PM
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You can stack them, I have done so before for freespin promos, they will all just keep as your bonus spins until you use them,,, the only thing is to watch in your Rewards tab in Casino side, to check for validity of those freespins. And take care of the date, as I got my lesson from it before. The Date shown is not included, they expire before the date.

It seems we can but the expiration date is pretty close before the next one comes in. Mine expires in few hours, glad that I managed to use them before it expires. Only got $1.14 but oh well I guess we'll need Djokovic to win the entire tournament for us to actually make money out of this promotions. I'll be glad even if I can get $10 out of those entire spins that I'll get which seems impossible

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June 29, 2022, 08:35:26 PM
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^^
I noticed this too when claiming the spins. They only last for a few hours after doing so. The timer might start once you click on them. This I wouldn't know as these were available just a little over an hour ago yet they had said would be seen in the next day at the latest (roughly 14 hours after the match ends), so all this is speculation and not to be taken as solidly based.

I actually did manage to win 4.86 euros this time around with a Big Win of 6x. Think there were 2 versus symbols and 3 wilds on the spin.
Tried taking a screenshot but it did not work.
So nearly 0.25mbtc for one round is possible. Around $10usd in total won on the second day of free spins is not half bad.
Kept playing and of course no versus symbols and only one wild as I upped the bet base amount after every round.
So lost it all in 2 minutes of spinning. As somebody said before the RTP is quite high for a slots game.

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June 29, 2022, 10:18:55 PM
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I actually did manage to win 4.86 euros this time around with a Big Win of 6x.

Got 1.68 euros for my round of free spins. I wanted to play with the balance, it defaulted to 1.00 euro per spin.

Wait a second, I thought you only get 1.68 for the free spins? or am I actually missing something in here, is the 2nd rounds of free spins have been distributed yet? because I only had 25 free spins in my accounts when I opened the slots tab. Dang if it is the 2nd round of free spins that means my 1st one probably expires lol

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June 30, 2022, 12:09:31 AM
Last edit: June 30, 2022, 12:23:51 AM by ralle14
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Here is the what the free spins for the Wimbledon promotion on every win that Djokovic has looks like:
Thanks for providing the screenshots.

My betting record also don't look good this week but I at least manage to get this win earlier and finally broke my streak.  Smiley

https://sportsbet.io/sharebetslip/5b160bfd-f8e1-4567-8f36-6ea5af443467

Wait a second, I thought you only get 1.68 for the free spins? or am I actually missing something in here, is the 2nd rounds of free spins have been distributed yet? because I only had 25 free spins in my accounts when I opened the slots tab. Dang if it is the 2nd round of free spins that means my 1st one probably expires lol
Yup, the second round of freespins was just credited. Wait did you claim the first one already and you only got one message window? I was about to save mine but if that's what happened then I guess we'll just have to claim them before they credit another set of freespins.

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