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March 30, 2014, 07:19:52 PM
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btw... anyone got a price in mind for this one? I mined 1k and bought a few K at 2000-3200 satoshi... I if sell now it wil be a nice profit... But my problem is.... I always sell TOO early...

I once sold 9mil doge for 40satoshi... That still hurts thinking back LOLLOL... so any speculation here on a good price? I dont want to kick myself in the nuts again!  Cheesy
This country coin does not faces any P&D yet. In my little experience it grow harder than others because of The Dutch.

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March 30, 2014, 07:20:06 PM
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Voor de mensen die in ons project geloven, bedankt! We geloven er zelf ook enorm in. Jammer om te zien dat er altijd wat mensen zijn die wat te zeuren hebben, vooral over ons ID verificatie systeem. Helaas komen deze zelfde mensen zelf niet met een betere oplossing.
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Ja, da's de omgekeerde wereld of niet dan? Het is toch jullie project, lijkt me dat je voordat je ergens aan begint je daar eerst een beetje over nadenkt i.p.v. een of ander halfbakken plan de wereld in slingeren en als iemand daar dan een kritische vraag over stelt, je hen verwijt dat ze niet met de oplossing komen.

Tuurlijk niet. Wat jij zegt is omgekeerde wereld. Klagen is prima maar kom dan met verbeteringen anders is het nutteloos?

Ik vind het een redelijke zekere manier ook omdat niet iedereen het wilt, daarbij heeft het als data de waarde dat je precies ziet hoe sterk je community is.

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March 30, 2014, 07:30:04 PM
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Voor de mensen die in ons project geloven, bedankt! We geloven er zelf ook enorm in. Jammer om te zien dat er altijd wat mensen zijn die wat te zeuren hebben, vooral over ons ID verificatie systeem. Helaas komen deze zelfde mensen zelf niet met een betere oplossing.
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Ja, da's de omgekeerde wereld of niet dan? Het is toch jullie project, lijkt me dat je voordat je ergens aan begint je daar eerst een beetje over nadenkt i.p.v. een of ander halfbakken plan de wereld in slingeren en als iemand daar dan een kritische vraag over stelt, je hen verwijt dat ze niet met de oplossing komen.

Laat ik mezelf anders formuleren. Wij zijn van mening dat ons huidige systeem de juiste oplossing is. Mocht er dan kritiek zijn vragen we om detailed feedback en een betere oplossing.
Wij zijn geen instelling of bedrijf, slechts een groep developers met het idee om d.m.v. een pre-mine gratis e-guldens te distribueren aan mensen die hier niet dagelijks mee werken. Op deze manier hopen wij mensen te enthausiasmeren. Om ons werk te kunnen doen en misbruik tegen te gaan vragen wij bezoekers van onze website zichzelf te identificeren door middel van Nederlands enige wettig identificatiemiddel; namelijk een id kaart, rijbewijs of paspoort.


So to the dev; you are violating our privacy by claiming our BSN number. To validate the dutch identity the ID number should be sufficient. No copy is required, and especially not our BSN!


In je verhaal spreekt men over eisen (claimen). Dat doen wij niet. We geven netjes aan dat iedereen vrij is hier aan mee te werken.
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March 30, 2014, 07:36:12 PM
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Maybe we should talk english.. so other "potential" miners/investors dont think WTF are they saying, when they read through the thread.
That could scare people away cause they dont know whats being said here..  Wink
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March 30, 2014, 07:38:11 PM
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Have the devs provided their own identities somewhere? Seems a bit strange to hand over my own details to a group of people of whom I don't know the identity.
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March 30, 2014, 07:40:09 PM
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Maybe we should talk english.. so other "potential" miners/investors dont think WTF are they saying, when they read through the thread.
That could scare people away cause they dont know whats being said here..  Wink

Agree
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March 30, 2014, 07:41:32 PM
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Have the devs provided their own identities somewhere? Seems a bit strange to hand over my own details to a group of people of whom I don't know the identity.

I said that few pages back too.. no reply on it though... I really like this coin, and I think being open about who you guys are can only bring more succes to this coin... get your face on TV or something when promoting.. that will help a lot... look what that did for freaking Mazacoin LOL

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Maybe you could send an email to De Wereld Draait Door? This could be a nice item in their show.. Discussing of E-gulden would actually be 5/10 minutes of free airtime for promoting  Wink
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March 30, 2014, 07:50:40 PM
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It is good to use,easily manage my coin. Grin Grin Grin
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March 30, 2014, 07:57:34 PM
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Voor de mensen die in ons project geloven, bedankt! We geloven er zelf ook enorm in. Jammer om te zien dat er altijd wat mensen zijn die wat te zeuren hebben, vooral over ons ID verificatie systeem. Helaas komen deze zelfde mensen zelf niet met een betere oplossing.
...

Ja, da's de omgekeerde wereld of niet dan? Het is toch jullie project, lijkt me dat je voordat je ergens aan begint je daar eerst een beetje over nadenkt i.p.v. een of ander halfbakken plan de wereld in slingeren en als iemand daar dan een kritische vraag over stelt, je hen verwijt dat ze niet met de oplossing komen.

Tuurlijk niet. Wat jij zegt is omgekeerde wereld. Klagen is prima maar kom dan met verbeteringen anders is het nutteloos?

Ik vind het een redelijke zekere manier ook omdat niet iedereen het wilt, daarbij heeft het als data de waarde dat je precies ziet hoe sterk je community is.

Right in english..

Send me a copy of your ID, social security number and a utility bill no older than three months and i'll send you €0.73 worth in btc.

I'm a trustworthy guy (not a random internet stranger). In a moment I'll sign in with a newly created sockpuppet account confirming I'm indeed trustworthy.

Hell, if i get enough ID's I might consider hiring http://coincreator.net/ myself and order me a litecoin clone with 50% premine....genius.


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March 30, 2014, 07:57:48 PM
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Have the devs provided their own identities somewhere? Seems a bit strange to hand over my own details to a group of people of whom I don't know the identity.

I said that few pages back too.. no reply on it though... I really like this coin, and I think being open about who you guys are can only bring more succes to this coin...

Well, maybe it's actually a smart move of the devs. They can do some identity theft of the people stupid enough to send there info and dump the other 99% of the premine for themselves since no more coins will be claimed in this setup. Double win for the devs.
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March 30, 2014, 08:01:39 PM
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Have the devs provided their own identities somewhere? Seems a bit strange to hand over my own details to a group of people of whom I don't know the identity.

I said that few pages back too.. no reply on it though... I really like this coin, and I think being open about who you guys are can only bring more succes to this coin...

Well, maybe it's actually a smart move of the devs. They can do some identity theft of the people stupid enough to send there info and dump the other 99% of the premine for themselves since no more coins will be claimed in this setup. Double win for the devs.

LOL lets just assume they dont do that  Wink
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March 30, 2014, 08:04:55 PM
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Have the devs provided their own identities somewhere? Seems a bit strange to hand over my own details to a group of people of whom I don't know the identity.

I said that few pages back too.. no reply on it though... I really like this coin, and I think being open about who you guys are can only bring more succes to this coin...

Well, maybe it's actually a smart move of the devs. They can do some identity theft of the people stupid enough to send there info and dump the other 99% of the premine for themselves since no more coins will be claimed in this setup. Double win for the devs.

LOL lets just assume they dont do that  Wink

I don't assume it but it's still a possibility.
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March 30, 2014, 08:07:37 PM
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Its a posibility that the coin wil be worth 0,001 btc.

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March 30, 2014, 08:11:33 PM
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Its a posibility that the coin wil be worth 0,001 btc.
may be more than 0.001 range 0 .0015-0.0045

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March 30, 2014, 08:15:58 PM
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Its a posibility that the coin wil be worth 0,001 btc.
may be more than 0.001 range 0 .0015-0.0045

If thats happening, Ill buy you a pizza dude  Wink
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March 30, 2014, 08:24:37 PM
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Its a posibility that the coin wil be worth 0,001 btc.
may be more than 0.001 range 0 .0015-0.0045

If thats happening, Ill buy you a pizza dude  Wink

ops ops ops   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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March 30, 2014, 08:49:12 PM
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Okay, besides the fact that you just totally ignored my security concerns and you just waved away the possibility that what you're doing is against the law...  Huh

Anyways:
Ons concrete plan voor nu is dus om te kijken of we ons ID verificatiesysteem iets aan kunnen passen waardoor het vertrouwder overkomt en niet fraudegevoelig is.
Nogmaals, tot die tijd hanteren en behouden we het systeem wat we momenteel gebruiken.

KISS:
- Ask people to share paper wallets at local supermarkets (lots of work, but you'll probably find people crazy enough, plus you'll reach way more people with much power to invest EFL)
- Fully (or semi) automated and even much more simple is to just open an bankaccount. Have people deposit 0.01 euro with the EFL address in the comment field, parse the results and pay out the EFL. You can't guarantee that some people won't use different bankaccounts, but at least you can verify that they are Dutch (or have a dutch bank account) and only claim once per account. If that isn't good enough for ya, then go from there and tech upgrade (forms, email validation, etc) until you have a method that's less intrusive and controversial, but still safe and easy to use. With this method you can even buy a decent supply of beer afterwards...

There are probably a dozen more easy solutions, but I'll let those up to you to think out.

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March 30, 2014, 08:53:51 PM
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What's going on?

Those buys on poloniex are interesting. 
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March 30, 2014, 09:53:18 PM
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Have the devs provided their own identities somewhere? Seems a bit strange to hand over my own details to a group of people of whom I don't know the identity.

I said that few pages back too.. no reply on it though... I really like this coin, and I think being open about who you guys are can only bring more succes to this coin...

Well, maybe it's actually a smart move of the devs. They can do some identity theft of the people stupid enough to send there info and dump the other 99% of the premine for themselves since no more coins will be claimed in this setup. Double win for the devs.
Identity theft gets you in jail.
Try bribing Bubba with a pre-mine.

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March 30, 2014, 10:13:34 PM
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Have the devs provided their own identities somewhere? Seems a bit strange to hand over my own details to a group of people of whom I don't know the identity.

I said that few pages back too.. no reply on it though... I really like this coin, and I think being open about who you guys are can only bring more succes to this coin...

Well, maybe it's actually a smart move of the devs. They can do some identity theft of the people stupid enough to send there info and dump the other 99% of the premine for themselves since no more coins will be claimed in this setup. Double win for the devs.
Identity theft gets you in jail.
Try bribing Bubba with a pre-mine.

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