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May 05, 2022, 08:18:39 PM
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Had to reboot by system. started CGminer again but not accepting shares anymore. Is it a time thing? I have to wait x amount of hours before the solo pool will give me work? All i see now is "Stratum from pool 0 detected new block" .

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May 05, 2022, 11:59:18 PM
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Had to reboot by system. started CGminer again but not accepting shares anymore. Is it a time thing? I have to wait x amount of hours before the solo pool will give me work? All i see now is "Stratum from pool 0 detected new block" .

What device are you using for mining?, note that you need an ASIC, otherwise it will take days or months to even register in the pool.

Are you getting rejected shares or not sending any shares at all? If you have a small ASIC like the Compac F USB miner for example, try adding --suggest-diff 442 to the command line. That should make it send more, smaller shares.

Based on your previous comments, it looks like you're using an older miner. Make sure that you're setting --suggest-diff 5 as it seems that's how you were running it before.

Also, you could try reading more information about your miner to see what's going on. While cgminer is running, press the letter u, then s, then 0(zero) on your keyboard. That should list all the information about the first USB device you have connected there.

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May 06, 2022, 12:14:37 AM
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Had to reboot by system. started CGminer again but not accepting shares anymore. Is it a time thing? I have to wait x amount of hours before the solo pool will give me work? All i see now is "Stratum from pool 0 detected new block" .

What device are you using for mining?, note that you need an ASIC, otherwise it will take days or months to even register in the pool.

Are you getting rejected shares or not sending any shares at all? If you have a small ASIC like the Compac F USB miner for example, try adding --suggest-diff 442 to the command line. That should make it send more, smaller shares.

Based on your previous comments, it looks like you're using an older miner. Make sure that you're setting --suggest-diff 5 as it seems that's how you were running it before.

Also, you could try reading more information about your miner to see what's going on. While cgminer is running, press the letter u, then s, then 0(zero) on your keyboard. That should list all the information about the first USB device you have connected there.
Thank you for your suggestions . I am loving learning more each day. Things are fine now. Seems it fixed itself   Cheesy accepting  shares just fine now . https://solo.ckpool.org/users/1CQHvHRYVMcRrLqSeYhZEGPrDSsTaxDyib Want to take a minute to thank everyone who is on this solo pool. We are in a way helping each other right? That is what it is all about right? By partaking in this solo effort ..are we not working towards the original goal of bitcoin? That anyone could support the network? Anyone could be rewarded for that effort. This is so cool.  So many bitcoin  philosophical questions are spiraling in my head.

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.are we not working towards the original goal of bitcoin? That anyone could support the network? Anyone could be rewarded for that effort. This is so cool.  So many bitcoin  philosophical questions are spiraling in my head.

Looking at the overall picture the answer would be yes, we are helping each other and everyone else who believes in Bitcoin, it doesn't matter how you look at it, every hash straightens the ecosystem as a whole.

On the other hand, as far as the solo pool goes, unlike the normal pooled mining, only the person who hits the blocks get the reward, but then the pool gets its fees and thus can be financially self-sustained, so, ya, the more blocks person A finds, the more chances that the pool will be there for person B to use.

And then beyond all that, the fun and the joy of playing this solo game is beyond imagination, everyone here has a story and a dream, and hitting a block on a solo pool can be life-changing, it can also become an addiction, similar to gambling (with worse odds), I just hope that people maintain a good risk/reward ratio when dealing with a solo pool, don't go all in -- but don't stay completely out of it.

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May 06, 2022, 12:14:16 PM
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What is Bestshare really?
Why does 4 numbers appear after the dot?

Within the Asic diffA and diffR appear, why does it not match the CKPOOL data?
I'm trying to understand this but I can't find the information I need to fully understand it... Please someone explain it to me in the best possible way.
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Bestshare is the value of the highest share you found since the last block was found by someone on this pool. Bestever is the value of the highest share you found ever and never resets. Assuming you are using an antminer then the bestever of CKpool should be equal to the bestshare in the summary of the antminer miner status. As to the 4 numbers behind the dot: share values are not integers but floating point numbers* and can be rounded down any way you want. CKpool rounds it down to 4 numbers behind the dot and antminer rounds it to whole numbers.

DiffA is the value of the last share Accepted by the pool and DiffR is the value of the last share rejected by the pool and both continually change up and down. CKpool does not show that information. What you are looking for, again assuming an antminer, is the accepted stat under pools. That should correspond to the shares stat on CKpool.





Thank you very much for the explanation, very well explained.

In CKPOOL in "bestshare" indicates me this: 51722935881.8227,
"bestever": 290965521514,

I have seen that to confirm the block you need about 14 numbers and my best share has been 12 numbers, is this correct?

And another doubt, the Asic sends continuously actions but it learns with time or it has some reference data to send these actions?

From what I understand, it is always sending Sahres but not all are accepted, to find the block it must send one that meets the difficulty of the network and in that case it will be accepted, right?

In short, this data can be used to know if the miner is doing well or is it really only possible to find the block or not to find it?
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May 06, 2022, 12:37:10 PM
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~snip~

In CKPOOL in "bestshare" indicates me this: 51722935881.8227,
"bestever": 290965521514,

I have seen that to confirm the block you need about 14 numbers and my best share has been 12 numbers, is this correct?

And another doubt, the Asic sends continuously actions but it learns with time or it has some reference data to send these actions?

From what I understand, it is always sending Sahres but not all are accepted, to find the block it must send one that meets the difficulty of the network and in that case it will be accepted, right?

In short, this data can be used to know if the miner is doing well or is it really only possible to find the block or not to find it?


To find a block, you need to send one share that is higher than the current difficulty.

In your case, here's your best share vs the current difficulty:

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00,051,722,935,881
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29,794,407,589,312

This process is based on probability, so the more shares you send, the more probabilities you'll have to get one higher than the current difficulty. But you only need one to find a block.

A common metric to see how well your miner is running is to see the hashrate. You send to the pool only hashes that are at least a bit high, you don't send them all the time. This is set either by the pool, or the miner so that you get a nice stream of shares, not too often, and not too far apart.

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May 06, 2022, 03:03:37 PM
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Why could we not combine all of our hashing power to get  better odds of solving a block. Then pay out the actual specific miners hardware who solved the block. We will solve more blocks this way as a group?  Is this basically what CK pool does right? Do we all mine as one miner on CK pool.... basically ? sorry still learning . This might be a dumb question

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Why could we not combine all of our hashing power to get  better odds of solving a block. Then pay out the actual specific miners hardware who solved the block. We will solve more blocks this way as a group?  Is this basically what CK pool does right? Do we all mine as one miner on CK pool.... basically ? sorry still learning . This might be a dumb question

What you're proposing is basically a normal pool. You can of course connect to one of them, there are plenty. But this one is different.

In normal pools everyone contributes their hashrates as a group, and it doesn't matter who finds the block, the reward is divided proportional to the hashrate you provided. That way you get a constant payout every day/week/month, but the payout is much smaller. There are other variations of how the reward is divided in some pools but the main idea is the same.

Now, in solo ck pool you get paid zero until you hit a block(which might never happen), in which case you get the reward plus transactions fees, minus a pool fee. The chances of finding a block solo are really small though, but the payout is much higher. Plus, it's something unique to mine your own block.

Of course everyone has different preferences, and you can try many pools for as much as you want and keep changing until you settle in whatever you want. You can even rent your hash rate in nicehash so that other people can find blocks with your miner and you get a constant payout. Some people in this forum rent a lot of hash rate from there and have found many blocks, using ck solo pool.

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Congratulations to bc1q0pd359kfxh93esgntxa6esxtjy3s9rhuqdn02m!

Code:
[2022-04-27 04:17:12.143] Possible block solve diff 37038102498404.531250 !
[2022-04-27 04:17:12.211] BLOCK ACCEPTED!
[2022-04-27 04:17:12.213] Solved and confirmed block 733739 by bc1q0pd359kfxh93esgntxa6esxtjy3s9rhuqdn02m
[2022-04-27 04:17:12.213] User bc1q0pd359kfxh93esgntxa6esxtjy3s9rhuqdn02m:{"hashrate1m": "60.7T", "hashrate5m": "61.3T", "hashrate1hr": "62.8T", "hashrate1d": "63.3T", "hashrate7d": "62.5T"}
[2022-04-27 04:17:12.213] Worker bc1q0pd359kfxh93esgntxa6esxtjy3s9rhuqdn02m:{"hashrate1m": "60.7T", "hashrate5m": "61.3T", "hashrate1hr": "62.8T", "hashrate1d": "63.3T", "hashrate7d": "62.5T"}
[2022-04-27 04:17:12.250] Block solved after 47330132229632 shares at 167.7% diff

https://btc.com/btc/block/733739

Does a pool exist with a function mentioned in my last post. A pool that we all mine together as one miner . No matter the hardware your using . Basically like CK pool but our hashing power is combined and if we get a block then the specific miners hardware gets the entire 6.25 BTC. Say this “Combined Solo Pool” is hashing away at 20 PH and we get a block. I am hashing at 6 gh and just so happened my ASIC chip was the specific one that solved the block. I would get the reward. Even with 6 GH. Does anything like this exist? Seems we would solve more blocks as one combined miner but reward the specific hardware that actually solved the block. 

I am looking for a mission. Something to build in this bitcoin community to contribute to my families legacy as a second generation new bitcoin miner.  If nothing like this exists . Could I modify CK pool source to accommodate the functions I am trying to go after?  I am hungry to contribute. I am not lazy and will work hard for whatever goal that is set before me. I learn fast and am motivate beyond monetary means. Something in deep in my core needs to do something here. Cannot explain it.

Would you give me some pointers and possibly some tips to get started in modding CK pool to do this? I would leave the  fee tribute in the code that would go back to supporting the original development of CK pool source code.

My journey is just getting started in the Bitcoin community. Ready to hit the ground running. My father mentioned you many time in his notes Kolivas. He seemed to trust your work. I trust your mentorship and that you would lead me down the right path. I wont require to much of your time just some pointers and tips to achieve my goals to bring the functions mentioned to this  “Combined Solo Pool” idea using CK pool source code as a base.

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May 06, 2022, 05:48:50 PM
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Why could we not combine all of our hashing power to get  better odds of solving a block. Then pay out the actual specific miners hardware who solved the block. We will solve more blocks this way as a group?  Is this basically what CK pool does right? Do we all mine as one miner on CK pool.... basically ? sorry still learning . This might be a dumb question

What you're proposing is basically a normal pool. You can of course connect to one of them, there are plenty. But this one is different.

In normal pools everyone contributes their hashrates as a group, and it doesn't matter who finds the block, the reward is divided proportional to the hashrate you provided. That way you get a constant payout every day/week/month, but the payout is much smaller. There are other variations of how the reward is divided in some pools but the main idea is the same.

Now, in solo ck pool you get paid zero until you hit a block(which might never happen), in which case you get the reward plus transactions fees, minus a pool fee. The chances of finding a block solo are really small though, but the payout is much higher. Plus, it's something unique to mine your own block.

Of course everyone has different preferences, and you can try many pools for as much as you want and keep changing until you settle in whatever you want. You can even rent your hash rate in nicehash so that other people can find blocks with your miner and you get a constant payout. Some people in this forum rent a lot of hash rate from there and have found many blocks, using ck solo pool.

I think i am after a hybrid solo pool. Somewhere in between a regular pool and CK. We all hash together with massive potential thus increasing our odds but like CK pool the only one who gets the reward is the exact persons whom hardware solves the block.

With 20 PH



Someone from this hypothetical pool could get the block reward without a doubt each 71 days or sooner right?
none the less this is an idea i want to explore and attempt to implement with advise from members here

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Have a look here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Comparison_of_mining_pools

But this is getting way out of topic, you could start a new thread asking these things.

This thread is for solo ck, let's keep it like that.

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May 06, 2022, 06:08:21 PM
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Have a look here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Comparison_of_mining_pools

But this is getting way out of topic, you could start a new thread asking these things.

This thread is for solo ck, let's keep it like that.

Sorry  Undecided and thank you  Will stay on topic on this thread. sorry again

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May 06, 2022, 11:55:20 PM
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Why could we not combine all of our hashing power to get  better odds of solving a block. Then pay out the actual specific miners hardware who solved the block. We will solve more blocks this way as a group?  Is this basically what CK pool does right? Do we all mine as one miner on CK pool.... basically ? sorry still learning . This might be a dumb question

What you're proposing is basically a normal pool. You can of course connect to one of them, there are plenty. But this one is different.

In normal pools everyone contributes their hashrates as a group, and it doesn't matter who finds the block, the reward is divided proportional to the hashrate you provided. That way you get a constant payout every day/week/month, but the payout is much smaller. There are other variations of how the reward is divided in some pools but the main idea is the same.

Now, in solo ck pool you get paid zero until you hit a block(which might never happen), in which case you get the reward plus transactions fees, minus a pool fee. The chances of finding a block solo are really small though, but the payout is much higher. Plus, it's something unique to mine your own block.

Of course everyone has different preferences, and you can try many pools for as much as you want and keep changing until you settle in whatever you want. You can even rent your hash rate in nicehash so that other people can find blocks with your miner and you get a constant payout. Some people in this forum rent a lot of hash rate from there and have found many blocks, using ck solo pool.

I think i am after a hybrid solo pool. Somewhere in between a regular pool and CK. We all hash together with massive potential thus increasing our odds but like CK pool the only one who gets the reward is the exact persons whom hardware solves the block.

With 20 PH



Someone from this hypothetical pool could get the block reward without a doubt each 71 days or sooner right?
none the less this is an idea i want to explore and attempt to implement with advise from members here



this is something that you are seeking kitkatz
its a small community of miners who are splitting rewards according you work put in

https://pool.laurentiapool.org/#/
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May 07, 2022, 03:22:47 AM
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Does a pool exist with a function mentioned in my last post. A pool that we all mine together as one miner . No matter the hardware your using . Basically like CK pool but our hashing power is combined and if we get a block then the specific miners hardware gets the entire 6.25 BTC. Say this “Combined Solo Pool” is hashing away at 20 PH and we get a block. I am hashing at 6 gh and just so happened my ASIC chip was the specific one that solved the block. I would get the reward. Even with 6 GH. Does anything like this exist? Seems we would solve more blocks as one combined miner but reward the specific hardware that actually solved the block. 

This is exactly what this exact pool does, we all mine together to one pool, which increases the odds of finding a block for the pool as a whole, but then only the miner who gets that lucky share will get the reward regardless of how big or small his/her hashrate was.

This is called a solo pool, which is just a replacement for the old solo mining where you had to run your own node and mine to it, mining to a solo pool saves you all that trouble, besides, having close to 100% uptime and very fast connection isn't something the average person can do/afford, which is why we use a solo pool.

The other "normal" pools work the same, it's just the payout that is different, you get paid based on the number of shares you submit (essentially your hashrate speed), there was another pool scheme (forgot the name) that had a sort of a hybrid approach, the block finder gets like 25% or something like that of the block reward, and the remaining is divided between all miners including the one that hit the block, each based on the number of shares they submitted which is sort of stupid if you ask me. Cheesy

I admire your desire to come up with a new pooling concept, but as it stands right now, everything you may think of has already been done.

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May 07, 2022, 04:24:47 AM
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Why could we not combine all of our hashing power to get  better odds of solving a block. Then pay out the actual specific miners hardware who solved the block. We will solve more blocks this way as a group?  Is this basically what CK pool does right? Do we all mine as one miner on CK pool.... basically ? sorry still learning . This might be a dumb question

What you're proposing is basically a normal pool. You can of course connect to one of them, there are plenty. But this one is different.

In normal pools everyone contributes their hashrates as a group, and it doesn't matter who finds the block, the reward is divided proportional to the hashrate you provided. That way you get a constant payout every day/week/month, but the payout is much smaller. There are other variations of how the reward is divided in some pools but the main idea is the same.

Now, in solo ck pool you get paid zero until you hit a block(which might never happen), in which case you get the reward plus transactions fees, minus a pool fee. The chances of finding a block solo are really small though, but the payout is much higher. Plus, it's something unique to mine your own block.

Of course everyone has different preferences, and you can try many pools for as much as you want and keep changing until you settle in whatever you want. You can even rent your hash rate in nicehash so that other people can find blocks with your miner and you get a constant payout. Some people in this forum rent a lot of hash rate from there and have found many blocks, using ck solo pool.

I think i am after a hybrid solo pool. Somewhere in between a regular pool and CK. We all hash together with massive potential thus increasing our odds but like CK pool the only one who gets the reward is the exact persons whom hardware solves the block.

With 20 PH



Someone from this hypothetical pool could get the block reward without a doubt each 71 days or sooner right?
none the less this is an idea i want to explore and attempt to implement with advise from members here



this is something that you are seeking kitkatz
its a small community of miners who are splitting rewards according you work put in

https://pool.laurentiapool.org/#/

yeah I mine there along with a few others.

If any of us hits the block I collect about 1.5 coins

another guy gets about 3.75 coins

a third guy gets about 1.2 coins

https://pool.laurentiapool.org/#/work

I am 146UJM….

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May 07, 2022, 10:25:16 AM
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Have a look here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Comparison_of_mining_pools

But this is getting way out of topic, you could start a new thread asking these things.

This thread is for solo ck, let's keep it like that.

Can it harm connecting to CKPool from Spain or is this irrelevant in terms of sending a valid Share faster!?
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May 07, 2022, 12:33:24 PM
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Have a look here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Comparison_of_mining_pools

But this is getting way out of topic, you could start a new thread asking these things.

This thread is for solo ck, let's keep it like that.

Can it harm connecting to CKPool from Spain or is this irrelevant in terms of sending a valid Share faster!?

it should be okay.

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May 07, 2022, 06:01:19 PM
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Does a pool exist with a function mentioned in my last post. A pool that we all mine together as one miner . No matter the hardware your using . Basically like CK pool but our hashing power is combined and if we get a block then the specific miners hardware gets the entire 6.25 BTC. Say this “Combined Solo Pool” is hashing away at 20 PH and we get a block. I am hashing at 6 gh and just so happened my ASIC chip was the specific one that solved the block. I would get the reward. Even with 6 GH. Does anything like this exist? Seems we would solve more blocks as one combined miner but reward the specific hardware that actually solved the block. 

This is exactly what this exact pool does, we all mine together to one pool, which increases the odds of finding a block for the pool as a whole, but then only the miner who gets that lucky share will get the reward regardless of how big or small his/her hashrate was.

This is called a solo pool, which is just a replacement for the old solo mining where you had to run your own node and mine to it, mining to a solo pool saves you all that trouble, besides, having close to 100% uptime and very fast connection isn't something the average person can do/afford, which is why we use a solo pool.

The other "normal" pools work the same, it's just the payout that is different, you get paid based on the number of shares you submit (essentially your hashrate speed), there was another pool scheme (forgot the name) that had a sort of a hybrid approach, the block finder gets like 25% or something like that of the block reward, and the remaining is divided between all miners including the one that hit the block, each based on the number of shares they submitted which is sort of stupid if you ask me. Cheesy

I admire your desire to come up with a new pooling concept, but as it stands right now, everything you may think of has already been done.

Wish i could find my place in this Bitcoin world. Something worthy of a lifetime  pursuit. I had a idea last night about finding a location in the Yukon, Alaska or Northwest territories. Find a goldilocks property with a creek or stream with just the right amount of flow to power a hydro electric generator. A decent battery bank. Would start out with just enough hash power to get solo blocks but not to many to eat into off grid living power. Could scale the battery bank as new miners are added.  If i was to hit a block today on CK pool. This plan would be a reality tomorrow. Tell then it is a dream that lives in my head. Waiting for my luck to change.

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May 08, 2022, 03:24:20 AM
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Playing with the source code of CK pool. Working on my first experimental Bitcoin project . A clone of CK pool. This will help me get my feet wet. What file do i need to change the 0.5% for Ck pool development team to a full 1%? Also want to reduce experimental pool reward to 1%. This way we are even partners  Grin Cheesy . Joking . Just trying to learn through doing. Anyone know the locations to these two mods? Think i can figure out the rest. Got a Full Bitcoin node syncing now that the experimental pool will use  Wink Cool Grin Hit the ground running is my style

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May 08, 2022, 03:38:24 AM
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Hi all,

I don’t know if this is the best place to ask. But it’s the only place I can think off.

I’m planing on buying a “21 Bitcoin computer” and planing to point it to CKPool.

Has anyone have experienced in this miner? And help or advice will be nice.



P.s Sorry ck if this question is not for this thread
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