🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread

[boltz]

Another defeat for Spirit today in Elite League and nothing goes on their way it seems. There was also statement before 2024 started from Spirit who said that 2024 is the year when they want to win everything or it's time to take a break ....and so far it seems they need a break asap because I bet it's nothing but frustration to play Dota and see that nothing goes on your way no matter how hard you try. ( I mean Collapse had to play underlord ?? ...this is clearly a sign that things are not smooth in Team Spirit ).

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[Beparanf]

Another defeat for Spirit today in Elite League and nothing goes on their way it seems. There was also statement before 2024 started from Spirit who said that 2024 is the year when they want to win everything or it's time to take a break ....and so far it seems they need a break asap because I bet it's nothing but frustration to play Dota and see that nothing goes on your way no matter how hard you try. ( I mean Collapse had to play underlord ?? ...this is clearly a sign that things are not smooth in Team Spirit ).

I read some interview before that Team Spirit has an inner struggle since they can’t show any good progress on the current patch after their successful run last year. This time is different because they probably have a toxic environment anymore that all players have the factor to leave the team since they already manage to achieve a 2 TI champs.

Collapse is the basis if TS is performing well or not because he is always the playmaker to give space to Yatoro in late game. It’s a waste if this team will part ways just because the patch doesn’t suit their play style.

[passwordnow]

Another defeat for Spirit today in Elite League and nothing goes on their way it seems. There was also statement before 2024 started from Spirit who said that 2024 is the year when they want to win everything or it's time to take a break ....and so far it seems they need a break asap because I bet it's nothing but frustration to play Dota and see that nothing goes on your way no matter how hard you try. ( I mean Collapse had to play underlord ?? ...this is clearly a sign that things are not smooth in Team Spirit ).

I wouldn't expect from them when it's come to these tournaments that are still early for the TI. I am not trying to defend them or what, but this Elite league doesn't have points for qualifying into the bigger tournament and that's why I think that they're falling shortly. But without having any reasonings, the other teams are just better than them. It's like they are becoming on their 100% when the tournament is having a lot of prize pool and qualification for the bigger tournament. This Elite league has got a $300k prize for the champion and that's still a lot of money but knowing that these champs, they can win or just play as if there is nothing to worry about as there's no points and that prize pool has a place for everybody even at the lowest placers.

Anyway, at some news. I can't imagine Taiga was even doing his 322 when he was still at OG and that's why there's something off with OG at that time. Too much addiction really can cause you a lot of breakdowns and can make you lose your career. He's one of the best supports out there but he's gone out of the career due to addiction in gambling and no team will take him at this time. Props to his former teammates coming from Alliance, to Liquid and to OG. His teammates at Liquid are doing good but him, he's left behind.

[ralle14]

I wouldn't expect from them when it's come to these tournaments that are still early for the TI. I am not trying to defend them or what, but this Elite league doesn't have points for qualifying into the bigger tournament and that's why I think that they're falling shortly. But without having any reasonings, the other teams are just better than them. It's like they are becoming on their 100% when the tournament is having a lot of prize pool and qualification for the bigger tournament. This Elite league has got a $300k prize for the champion and that's still a lot of money but knowing that these champs, they can win or just play as if there is nothing to worry about as there's no points and that prize pool has a place for everybody even at the lowest placers.

My thoughts are the same on the other teams struggling in the group stage. There's no urgency for them to go all out as there are more important tournaments like the ones from ESL and DreamLeague since those tournaments are the only road for the Esports World Cup, which is becoming like the replacement for TI.

Anyway, at some news. I can't imagine Taiga was even doing his 322 when he was still at OG and that's why there's something off with OG at that time. Too much addiction really can cause you a lot of breakdowns and can make you lose your career. He's one of the best supports out there but he's gone out of the career due to addiction in gambling and no team will take him at this time. Props to his former teammates coming from Alliance, to Liquid and to OG. His teammates at Liquid are doing good but him, he's left behind.

The unexpected thing about his case was rigging the first blood, as he already admitted his gambling addiction before, and the community only gave him nothing but positivity.

He's still playing for a team in the SA region, but there's no chance for them to qualify as Boom, Heroic, and beastcoast are always fighting at the top.

[passwordnow]

I wouldn't expect from them when it's come to these tournaments that are still early for the TI. I am not trying to defend them or what, but this Elite league doesn't have points for qualifying into the bigger tournament and that's why I think that they're falling shortly. But without having any reasonings, the other teams are just better than them. It's like they are becoming on their 100% when the tournament is having a lot of prize pool and qualification for the bigger tournament. This Elite league has got a $300k prize for the champion and that's still a lot of money but knowing that these champs, they can win or just play as if there is nothing to worry about as there's no points and that prize pool has a place for everybody even at the lowest placers.

My thoughts are the same on the other teams struggling in the group stage. There's no urgency for them to go all out as there are more important tournaments like the ones from ESL and DreamLeague since those tournaments are the only road for the Esports World Cup, which is becoming like the replacement for TI.

True, despite the prize that they've got. They can't just go all out with the best or strategies that they've built over the period of time. Time flies so quick and soon, we're going to be in the TI and its qualifiers again and with those teams that have gathered enough points will have time for them to restrategize. They just can't give the idea to their opponents that they have something prepared for them for the grander events and tournaments. I am not saying that this Elite League is no grand but it's also one of them and it just so happen that there's no points on it. It's just all about the money but teams like TS can't put that at stake but, I hope that I am wrong but when it's come to respect, TS has gained it and they sure are a veteran and know how to act on these tournaments easily.

Anyway, at some news. I can't imagine Taiga was even doing his 322 when he was still at OG and that's why there's something off with OG at that time. Too much addiction really can cause you a lot of breakdowns and can make you lose your career. He's one of the best supports out there but he's gone out of the career due to addiction in gambling and no team will take him at this time. Props to his former teammates coming from Alliance, to Liquid and to OG. His teammates at Liquid are doing good but him, he's left behind.

The unexpected thing about his case was rigging the first blood, as he already admitted his gambling addiction before, and the community only gave him nothing but positivity.

He's still playing for a team in the SA region, but there's no chance for them to qualify as Boom, Heroic, and beastcoast are always fighting at the top.

Yeah, that first blood thing and many have been followed. I can't just think of it that he had accepted such offers like $1k and having some commission with that. He can earn more with his career and being on an SA team, I don't think that he'll be able to recover from being in a tier 1 team going to a tier 2 or even 3. That's just so sad but I guess that living lifestyle in his country is quite high and this made him do that.


On the other hand, here's the recap of what has happened for day 5 and the standings of the teams. Those teams that have red cross marked are surely eliminated. While with the green one, sure to move to the next stage which is the playoffs and will be placed on upper bracket.

[emrecemsan]

There is a really short time left for the new season of ESL Pro League to begin. 



Winning this league will be really important. Because the winner gets an opportunity to join IEM Cologne in August. The last winner of ESL Pro League was MOUZ by the way. I see them still strong as they have reached the grand final in IEM Chengdu but just lost to FaZe and lost the opportunity to join directly to IEM Cologne. They will try their luck with ESL Pro League this time.

I'm hopeful about especially Eternal Fire. I really liked their rise in last PGL Major and I hope they can keep up the good work and get even better. 

I believe that we can finish Group A successfully.

[ralle14]

There is a really short time left for the new season of ESL Pro League to begin. 

That standing got me in the first half thinking there was a possible tie on the matches. 

I'm hopeful about especially Eternal Fire. I really liked their rise in last PGL Major and I hope they can keep up the good work and get even better. 

With four qualification spots per group, they should get at least one of them, the only question is the seeding (ro16, ro12, QF) they'd get at the end.

Unfortunately, their matches to secure the QF spot are difficult. They'll face Astralis at the start and meet Faze in the next if they win.

[sunsilk]

EPL season 17 is happening now for Dota 2 while everyone is bored and waiting for the ESL One. This is in Europe so checking out some teams that have the potential since most of them are strong.

Our good boy Dendi is participating on this tournament and it's got 2 days before the playoffs happens and sadly, I've just seen that they're about to get eliminated.

Still no luck for Dendi even with these kinds of tournaments, he and his team struggles.

[passwordnow]

Guys, are you seeing this?



Esports World Cup has announced its prize pool. As what in the image says, it's totally going to be life changing event for the participating teams, players and anyone who's going to be part of this grand event. In Dota 2, Esports World Cup is the organizer of the Riyadh Masters. And if others don't know yet, Riyadh Masters has got the biggest prize pool last year so, the distribution might be bigger for Dota 2 on this event. But even it doesn't get the biggest share for the entire esports event there, I am in no doubt that the share for each pie is a lot and will definitely make these players change their lives forever. And this is setting a record breaking prize pool, the past highest was with The International 2021 with a prize pool of $40M and this one is $60M, woaah!  

[arallmuus]

Esports World Cup has announced its prize pool. As what in the image says, it's totally going to be life changing event for the participating teams, players and anyone who's going to be part of this grand event. In Dota 2, Esports World Cup is the organizer of the Riyadh Masters. And if others don't know yet, Riyadh Masters has got the biggest prize pool last year so, the distribution might be bigger for Dota 2 on this event.

Last year was $15mil which was a huge amount of prizepool though so Im guessing this time it should be atleast $20mil. Its still a huge amount of money, thats literally 20 DreamLeague or ESL tournament because prizepool for these tournaments are usually $1mil

But even it doesn't get the biggest share for the entire esports event there, I am in no doubt that the share for each pie is a lot and will definitely make these players change their lives forever. And this is setting a record breaking prize pool, the past highest was with The International 2021 with a prize pool of $40M and this one is $60M, woaah!  

Its different though, this is an entire prizepool for esports worldcup while those $40mil prizepool on TI2021 was reserved only for dota2 so yeah thats a huge difference there but Riyadh Master tournament is still a top tier tournament and we dont even have anything close to their prizepool aside from TI

[passwordnow]

Esports World Cup has announced its prize pool. As what in the image says, it's totally going to be life changing event for the participating teams, players and anyone who's going to be part of this grand event. In Dota 2, Esports World Cup is the organizer of the Riyadh Masters. And if others don't know yet, Riyadh Masters has got the biggest prize pool last year so, the distribution might be bigger for Dota 2 on this event.

Last year was $15mil which was a huge amount of prizepool though so Im guessing this time it should be atleast $20mil. Its still a huge amount of money, thats literally 20 DreamLeague or ESL tournament because prizepool for these tournaments are usually $1mil

Yeah, that sure is a lot and the EWC is making a history in here and this is how they're defeating the most grand tournament that's organized by Valve into having more prize pool. Last year, IIRC, it was a news that they're investing into esports to make their region as an esports hub and now they're doing it and making a reality.

But even it doesn't get the biggest share for the entire esports event there, I am in no doubt that the share for each pie is a lot and will definitely make these players change their lives forever. And this is setting a record breaking prize pool, the past highest was with The International 2021 with a prize pool of $40M and this one is $60M, woaah!  

Its different though, this is an entire prizepool for esports worldcup while those $40mil prizepool on TI2021 was reserved only for dota2 so yeah thats a huge difference there but Riyadh Master tournament is still a top tier tournament and we dont even have anything close to their prizepool aside from TI

Yeah, it's different but having this kind of prize pool for one event with various esports involve is still a history. I can't imagine how much return they'll get from this but typically, this is going to make the organizers comfortable hire or choose this region for most grand tournaments in the nearest future once this event becomes successful and I am looking forward for that because they deserve to have that successful event.

[criptoevangelista]

Is anyone following EVO Japan 2024? The tournament starts on April 27th and runs until April 29th, the biggest Japanese fighting game legends will be participating.

We have Daigo "The Beast", Tokido, and many other great legendary players from around the world will also be there.


Official Website: https://www.evojapan.gg/?lng=en

[ralle14]

The wait is almost over, with several hours remaining before the group stage for the ESL One Birmingham kicks off.

The teams in Group B are lucky to avoid most of the tougher teams because Group A looks like the group of death with Team Liquid, G2.IG, BetBoom, and Team Falcons.

I'm going low on Shopify to beat one of the weakest teams in Group A as I think they'll struggle to make it out similar to how Blacklist struggled in Elite League.

[passwordnow]

Day 2 is done for the ESL One Birmingham and here's the recap for the past two days and as well as the current standings that they have.





I'm amazed of the last match of XG and Gaimin Gladiators, it was about to become a 1-1 since all of the games in the groupstages are 2 matches per series. XG managed to do a comeback on the 2nd map. I wasn't expecting that when the lead of GG was actually far and they're just about to end the game, well on that match I can say that patience did really paid off for the Xtreme Gaming. Last day for tomorrow and we've got some idea on which teams are about to get eliminated and won't make it to the playoffs.

[emrecemsan]

With four qualification spots per group, they should get at least one of them, the only question is the seeding (ro16, ro12, QF) they'd get at the end.

Unfortunately, their matches to secure the QF spot are difficult. They'll face Astralis at the start and meet Faze in the next if they win.

It really didn't go well at all for Eternal Fire...    They started really poorly by losing against Astralis by 2-0. The map performances weren't good enough either. They couldn't be competitive which was opposite of my expectation. I thought that they would maintain their ambition in the last Major.



We are moving on in lower bracket now. We managed to beat Imperial by 2-1 first. The performances were satisfying this time especially on Anubis.    Today we are going to face fnatic.

The current odds:

fnatic: 2.60  Eternal Fire: 1.45

I hope to see another win.    But if we face FaZe in the lower final then our job will be very difficult. I would just hope to play as good as we played against them during the last Major.

[ralle14]

The first playoff match just ended for the ESL One Birmingham tournament and after they tried to run it back with almost the same lineup from map 2 I didn't expect Tundra Esports to deny the reverse sweep against Team Falcons. They're not as favored as before, but still, i'm impressed to see Tundra finally gain some success after replacing MC.

We are moving on in lower bracket now. We managed to beat Imperial by 2-1 first. The performances were satisfying this time especially on Anubis.    Today we are going to face fnatic.

I hope to see another win.    But if we face FaZe in the lower final then our job will be very difficult. I would just hope to play as good as we played against them during the last Major.

We'll have to see if they can get the job done because despite the favored odds it still feels like a toss-up. If they lose against Faze in the lower final, they still have one more chance in the last chance group.

[arallmuus]

The first playoff match just ended for the ESL One Birmingham tournament and after they tried to run it back with almost the same lineup from map 2 I didn't expect Tundra Esports to deny the reverse sweep against Team Falcons. They're not as favored as before, but still, i'm impressed to see Tundra finally gain some success after replacing MC.

Speaking of MC, what actually happened between him and the team though? it feels weird to suspend him indefinitely, I mean why dont they let him find another team. I mean yeah shit probably happened but this is the first time I've seen notes like this though



Anyway, Team Liquid should probably win tomorrow against Heroic. I mean there is no reason for them to lose on the first game of the lower bracket and as for the other game, I guess XG should be a good choice considering that they are way better compared to G2.IG

[ralle14]

Speaking of MC, what actually happened between him and the team though? it feels weird to suspend him indefinitely, I mean why dont they let him find another team. I mean yeah shit probably happened but this is the first time I've seen notes like this though

Maybe there's a part of his contract where he has to stay in the org for a specific amount of time and probably loaning him to another team is his only option similar to what Nigma Galaxy did with Sumail and ATF.

Anyway, Team Liquid should probably win tomorrow against Heroic. I mean there is no reason for them to lose on the first game of the lower bracket and as for the other game, I guess XG should be a good choice considering that they are way better compared to G2.IG

I'm leaning on Team Liquid as well, Heroic did great but K1's performance felt off for some reason, I think they could've done better throughout the group stage if K1 was proactive.

XG all day over G2.IG now that they're looking better, i'm not sure what's wrong with G2.IG they're always lacking in bringing in good results.

[arallmuus]

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Maybe there's a part of his contract where he has to stay in the org for a specific amount of time and probably loaning him to another team is his only option similar to what Nigma Galaxy did with Sumail and ATF.

Well seems likely but its just weird that they never really explained what really happened between MC and the team though but I guess they have found a suitable replacement for him. Im glad that I didnt make my bet on Falcons against Tundra

I'm leaning on Team Liquid as well, Heroic did great but K1's performance felt off for some reason, I think they could've done better throughout the group stage if K1 was proactive.

XG all day over G2.IG now that they're looking better, i'm not sure what's wrong with G2.IG they're always lacking in bringing in good results.

I did make a bet on Liquid and G2.IG though but I made a bit of a twist on Liquid by winning -1.5 map so now Im paying a full price from it



The odds for Liquid to win was less than 1.5 iirc so there is really no reason to put up two games under 1.5 in one ticket so I kinda bumped it up by selecting -1.5 which backfire lol. I should really stick only with XG I guess

[passwordnow]

I should really stick only with XG I guess

For the chinese dota 2 community, that bracketing is quite painful. Two chinese teams both at lower bracket and only one chinese team going to proceed to the next bracket and only one has to win, with this, Xtreme Gaming has been eliminated and G2.IG is going to move on against OG tomorrow. While for the first match of the lower bracket with Team Liquid and Heroic, Team Liquid moves to the next bracket and they're now facing Team Falcons, the score is already 1-0 in favor of Team Liquid.

I guess that I am wrong on my assumption that the Team Falcons are the ones that will be triumphant on this ESL. But it's not yet finished, if they win on the 2nd map against Team Liquid then there's still the last map to decide whether they'll be moving on or not. And together with the match tomorrow, we've got the upper bracket for the BetBoom and Tundra Esports.

Speaking of MC, what actually happened between him and the team though? it feels weird to suspend him indefinitely, I mean why dont they let him find another team. I mean yeah shit probably happened but this is the first time I've seen notes like this though

Maybe there's a part of his contract where he has to stay in the org for a specific amount of time and probably loaning him to another team is his only option similar to what Nigma Galaxy did with Sumail and ATF.

That's right, he's binded with the contract that he has with Nigma but we don't know for how long. MC really needs to move with another team as they've been stuck with Nigma for how many years already without any progress after winning a TI title. We want him to be at a better team that's always been qualified with the majors that we're watching right now.