🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread

[Hirose UK]

Alright, TI is starting so lets get to the real deal right now as I have been suffering for weeks betting on csgo with most of it ended up losing 



Most of the games are probably going to end with a draw so I chose two games that would most likely wont end with a draw. Team Spirit won the last two Major tournaments so they are probably going to win and as for BB, they got the potential for sure hence I picked them

The TI Dota 2 tournament is an international event that is always looked forward to by most esports fans not to mention many gamblers who always join in and don't want to miss out making this tournament one of the betting options that might be easier to predict because it an IT tournament each team will try their best to continue to advance to the final round and win huge prizes.

Previously I had participated in CSGO but was not really interested in participating in betting but now is the right time to be able to look for lots of opportunities in TI tournaments.
We hope you are always lucky with the TI Dota 2 tournament betting options.

I haven't confirmed the predictions for this match because in the early days like this I tend to prefer to observe it and be able to study how each team that competes plays so that later when I feel like I have enough information I can easily make predictions for each match.

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[arallmuus]

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I haven't confirmed the predictions for this match because in the early days like this I tend to prefer to observe it and be able to study how each team that competes plays so that later when I feel like I have enough information I can easily make predictions for each match.

Kinda understandable that most people will skip the BO2 group stage because its pretty volatile but if you are looking for match that give you all those suspense you are looking for then betting on BO2 is pretty fun. There are some teams that are pretty dominant compared to the other team so if you actually have been following dota2 scene from the previous tournament then you would know which teams to pick for the bet

[sompitonov]

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I haven't confirmed the predictions for this match because in the early days like this I tend to prefer to observe it and be able to study how each team that competes plays so that later when I feel like I have enough information I can easily make predictions for each match.

Kinda understandable that most people will skip the BO2 group stage because its pretty volatile but if you are looking for match that give you all those suspense you are looking for then betting on BO2 is pretty fun. There are some teams that are pretty dominant compared to the other team so if you actually have been following dota2 scene from the previous tournament then you would know which teams to pick for the bet

At TI11 and TI10, I bet in the group stage of the tournament on teams that were clearly expected to win, but often it turned out differently and they lost. After this bad experience I will bet with great caution. Moreover, I may try to bet on outsiders with large odds in the group stage, but at the moment I haven't yet decided on whom exactly. 9Pandas are playing inconsistently, maybe it will be them, but against Team Spirit on the first day it was obvious to me that they would lose.

[Oilacris]

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I haven't confirmed the predictions for this match because in the early days like this I tend to prefer to observe it and be able to study how each team that competes plays so that later when I feel like I have enough information I can easily make predictions for each match.

Kinda understandable that most people will skip the BO2 group stage because its pretty volatile but if you are looking for match that give you all those suspense you are looking for then betting on BO2 is pretty fun. There are some teams that are pretty dominant compared to the other team so if you actually have been following dota2 scene from the previous tournament then you would know which teams to pick for the bet

At TI11 and TI10, I bet in the group stage of the tournament on teams that were clearly expected to win, but often it turned out differently and they lost. After this bad experience I will bet with great caution. Moreover, I may try to bet on outsiders with large odds in the group stage, but at the moment I haven't yet decided on whom exactly. 9Pandas are playing inconsistently, maybe it will be them, but against Team Spirit on the first day it was obvious to me that they would lose.

There are really match ups on which you could really say that there's no way on beating up a certain group by other group basing up on past events and match up on which you could really be confidently be able to say that it would be a sure win but just like you do say that everything is really that too unpredictable or not really that certain. Come to look at on GG which we know that these are those reigning champs on majors but on this groupstage which they had already suffering some losses and they shouldn't really be that too confident yet this tournament isnt something that
you could really compare to majors. Every tactics and strategies would really be shown on here which it wasnt really been shown on other tournaments. So confidence isnt something that
should be tolerated specially on those Tier 1 teams. Dark horses and upset could happen real quick. 

[ralle14]

Here's what I have for the fourth day of the Worlds' Play-ins, and the matches today should be more one-sided when these losses could be a wake-up call for them. Also, I don't recommend putting much on this in case someone decides to tail because i've been on a bad losing streak recently.

GAM and R7 looked lifeless on their losses, but GAM should pick things up or at least get one map against R7, who I think is the worst team out of both groups. The DFM vs BDS series should be 2-0 for BDS when DFM doesn't have the best top lane anymore and it mattered during their series against CFO. I can't see an angle for BDS to lose when Adam will thrive at the top lane and carry the team again.

[arallmuus]

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At TI11 and TI10, I bet in the group stage of the tournament on teams that were clearly expected to win, but often it turned out differently and they lost. After this bad experience I will bet with great caution. Moreover, I may try to bet on outsiders with large odds in the group stage, but at the moment I haven't yet decided on whom exactly. 9Pandas are playing inconsistently, maybe it will be them, but against Team Spirit on the first day it was obvious to me that they would lose.

It seems that it was a bit too late to bet on favourites because bookies have decreased their odds for teams like Team Spirit, LGD and Team Liquid. You could have gotten atleast 2 for all those team on their first one or two games.

Won this and its a good start for me, also managed to get Team Spirit to win on their 2nd game as well so it has been great for me.

As for the 2nd day, Im betting on both Team Liquid and PSG.LGD to win because they really need to win this to secure the next group stage spot. Also put another small bet on Team Spirit again because I dont think they are going to throw the game away even after they have secured their next spot

[sompitonov]

Team Spirit played the day better than anyone and showed 3-0 victories over other teams. So far it looks like they are very confident in their game and nothing will stop them, but I remember how teams like LGD also wins to previous TI's, and then some OG appeared from the losers’ bracket and won the TI. I think there will be something similar at this, you can’t be overconfident. Anything can happen at a TI, this has been proven other times. The only team that has 2 losses and not even a draw is Talon, which came as a surprise to me.

The 1st day of TI12 is behind us, for me it’s a Dota 2 holiday, I’m very glad that it’s finally arrived, even with the disastrous compendium.

[Coin_trader]

TI seems very silent this year because it looks like just another regular tournament due to the prize pool compared to previous tournament.

I watch the game of Azure ray vs Thunder this morning and I’m surprise to saw a bug like that on a major tournament like TI. I stop watching already since they have a long pause but this kind of major bug is frustrating when happened on crucial matches such as decision game on the playoffs.

Anyway as expected to GG, another flop this year after showing dominance on the majors tournament. I think Team Spirit and Liquid all over again on the finals.

[arallmuus]

TI seems very silent this year because it looks like just another regular tournament due to the prize pool compared to previous tournament.

Its still one of the most hyped tournament throughout the year. As for the prizepool, you gotta blame Valve for doing shitty job this year. We could have easily reached atleast $10M prizepool on every TI if only they havent done all those shitty job and not releasing any battle pass but yeah shit happened so probably next year would be better especially that they promised they would rebrand everything including the DPC points system

Anyway as expected to GG, another flop this year after showing dominance on the majors tournament. I think Team Spirit and Liquid all over again on the finals.

Its still to early to call them a flop, all GG need to do on the 1st group stage is literally not to finish last to secure the next spot so I kinda understand why they are keeping their strat for now

[Coin_trader]

Anyway as expected to GG, another flop this year after showing dominance on the majors tournament. I think Team Spirit and Liquid all over again on the finals.

Its still to early to call them a flop, all GG need to do on the 1st group stage is literally not to finish last to secure the next spot so I kinda understand why they are keeping their strat for now

I hope that you are right on this since GG usually easily knock down whenever they show weak start on the group stage. Their strong form has the chance to give Team Spirit close fight.

I notice the significant changes on the TI format. Is this phase 2 seeding is new? I remember having a group stage with 2 group before which is much fair since the team with slow start can recover by beating the remaining matches. It’s very odd to be early kick out on TI by few matches against 4 teams only.

[passwordnow]

TI seems very silent this year because it looks like just another regular tournament due to the prize pool compared to previous tournament.

While that's true but we need to move forward and just look at how these teams beat each other's asses and we're done with the first phase of the tournament which is the group stages. There have been 4 teams that are already eliminated which I'll be posting below. This tournament is no longer all about the prizes but still about the glory, we've got some 2-time TI champ hopefuls that are competing on the tournament and the only one that's a three-peat hopeful whom is Topson playing with Tundra.

I watch the game of Azure ray vs Thunder this morning and I’m surprise to saw a bug like that on a major tournament like TI. I stop watching already since they have a long pause but this kind of major bug is frustrating when happened on crucial matches such as decision game on the playoffs.

Yeah, that was a surprising bug but then Icefrog(Wyk) has already fixed that bug immediately. Another meme again for everyone to see that this game is still in beta.

Anyway as expected to GG, another flop this year after showing dominance on the majors tournament. I think Team Spirit and Liquid all over again on the finals.

Team Spirit is untouchable and seems like they're the best contender to have a two-peat TI championship. Well for GG, it's to be expected that they've been unbeatable all over this year but let's still see as the tournament hasn't ended yet.


These are the teams eliminated and they're on their way to the airport;

• Team SMG of SEA
• Thunder Awaken of SA
• Beastcoast of SA
• PSG Quest of WEU

[len01]

since the start of the football season I have left Dota 2 betting for moment but I will always be present betting at TI12 like at TI11 last year. TBH, I already far behind on any updates and for now the predictions I am starting are just to try to read situation that will happen in the future and see betting options given by the bookie, there are 3 maps and I am sure that match will last up to 3 maps. like the first match yesterday, bookie provided only 2 maps and all matches ended in 2 maps only, but for this 2nd match there will be more matches up to map 3.
I hope my prediction is correct.

[Mauser]

The first big Counter Strike 2 tournament is coming up next week with the IEM Sydney 2023. It's going to be awesome to see the professional play the new game and how much it has involved. Especially with the mechanics of the new smoke grenades we should be seeing some awesome tactics. On Monday the first match is already going to be with NaVi playing against Apeks which should be a clear win for NaVi. They had a disappointing final last tournament playing against Mouz 3-0, but I think against Apeks they should win without problems. Mouz directly plays the second match against VERTEX, which is going to be very one sided and I don't see any chance for Mouz to lose it. In the third match Vitality is playing against the new Russian team BetBoom, which I haven't seen playing before. Vitality with all their experience should pull through. Also FaZe against GamerLegion should be a good way to get a free win for FaZe. These are all best of one games and I don't see many surprises happening. The only issue is that there could be some new CS2 gameplay that some of the older players are not ready for. Cloud9 vs fnatic is going to be one of the old rivals meeting again, but I don’t see many chances for fnatic to win this one. The two teams met in August this year and Cloud9 beat them 2-0 without a problem. G2 vs Grayhound is going to be another one sided game and my money is going to be on G2 for the match.

[passwordnow]

since the start of the football season I have left Dota 2 betting for moment but I will always be present betting at TI12 like at TI11 last year. TBH, I already far behind on any updates and for now the predictions I am starting are just to try to read situation that will happen in the future and see betting options given by the bookie, there are 3 maps and I am sure that match will last up to 3 maps. like the first match yesterday, bookie provided only 2 maps and all matches ended in 2 maps only, but for this 2nd match there will be more matches up to map 3.
I hope my prediction is correct.

It's okay if you think that you've been left behind but this is what the goodness of Dota 2, anyone can come back whenever they want to. And the tournament has now moved to phase two. The first group stages are only 2 matches and they're a points system. The next one is the seeding decider for which teams will be placed in either the upper bracket or lower bracket depending on the results of this phase two. And from there, we'll go to the main event which is the main event up to the finals. This is where it becomes more interesting because most teams are going to release their hidden strategies or heroes that they're preserving for them to move to the next bracket. Many are betting on this stage because there won't be tie unlike the first round of the group stages so it's either you win or lose and there's no draw on this one. That's why if you've seen the books provided for two matches only yesterday and the other day, that's because it is the format of the group stages.

[arallmuus]

Anyway as expected to GG, another flop this year after showing dominance on the majors tournament. I think Team Spirit and Liquid all over again on the finals.

Its still to early to call them a flop, all GG need to do on the 1st group stage is literally not to finish last to secure the next spot so I kinda understand why they are keeping their strat for now

I hope that you are right on this since GG usually easily knock down whenever they show weak start on the group stage. Their strong form has the chance to give Team Spirit close fight.

Guess I was right, GG ended up making it to the next group stage as 2nd in group C. I think the other teams are improving better compared to GG but GG is going to atleast make it to top 4 as they are still top tier teams. Their only concern is probably keeping strat most of the time which always makes them looks like a pretty silly team on earlier stage

I notice the significant changes on the TI format. Is this phase 2 seeding is new?

Pretty sure this is, I dont think the seeding decider games are important so I guess we might see alot of upsets today

It seems that it was a bit too late to bet on favourites because bookies have decreased their odds for teams like Team Spirit, LGD and Team Liquid. You could have gotten atleast 2 for all those team on their first one or two games.

As for the 2nd day, Im betting on both Team Liquid and PSG.LGD to win because they really need to win this to secure the next group stage spot.

Having a good record so far with my picks  

[len01]

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LoL, I almost won, but it does not matter, this can be my reference for betting in the next match.

Team Liquid beat EG without giving them chance to win 1x and it was my mistake to choose to bet on total map and I should have chosen to bet on the total kills.

and TSM almost made comeback but Virtus.pro was able to turn things around and secure victory in the first and second maps.

[Trofo]

It seems that it was a bit too late to bet on favourites because bookies have decreased their odds for teams like Team Spirit, LGD and Team Liquid. You could have gotten atleast 2 for all those team on their first one or two games.

Odds on favorites are total rubbish, especially now that we are playing BO3.

I was looking at the games and wanted to play LGD to win 2:0 against Keyd stars, I expected odds like 1.7, 1.6 at least and then i see that that outcome is paying only 1.3. That is totally unrealistic and I changed my bet to Keyd Stars to take one map @3.3. I fully expect LGD to win but anybody can loose one map in DOTA, maybe some cheese last pick or something. Much better value for me.

[arallmuus]

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Odds on favorites are total rubbish, especially now that we are playing BO3.

Yeah it looks its going to be a while until we get decent odds on the playoff

I was looking at the games and wanted to play LGD to win 2:0 against Keyd stars, I expected odds like 1.7, 1.6 at least and then i see that that outcome is paying only 1.3. That is totally unrealistic and I changed my bet to Keyd Stars to take one map @3.3. I fully expect LGD to win but anybody can loose one map in DOTA, maybe some cheese last pick or something. Much better value for me.

Similar thoughts on this, I had LGD-1.5 as well on parlay with Tundra and BB but the odds sucks so taking this SA team to win a map from PSG.LGD might not be a bad choice afterall

I picked over 2.5 maps though as the odds for Keyd +1.5 is smaller than over 2.5 maps hence I picked it. Either way PSG.LGD is far superior so I honestly dont see how they will lose even if by some miracle chance, Keyd stars managed to steal the 1st map from them

[passwordnow]

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LoL, I almost won, but it does not matter, this can be my reference for betting in the next match.

Hey len, that was close and that's just one! But you're right that this is a good reference for you next week when we go into the playoffs.

Team Liquid beat EG without giving them chance to win 1x and it was my mistake to choose to bet on total map and I should have chosen to bet on the total kills.

They know that they can take EG easily and that's why they're not giving any chance. But that's okay, you're almost there and that should be great money for you. Anyway, better luck next week.

and TSM almost made comeback but Virtus.pro was able to turn things around and secure victory in the first and second maps.

They fell short and almost there but Virtus.Pro was just good on that one in securing the entire series. They don't even want that to go through a third game. The next bracketing is still a best of 3 series and that's also another harder part to all of them.

[len01]

Hey len, that was close and that's just one! But you're right that this is a good reference for you next week when we go into the playoffs.

I told you I can!  take a look at my strange bet

I just tried to predict from the kill results of several these teams and all them were almost over 42.5

LGD has playing style that is almost similar to Team Liquid, which is very fast but has a lot of kills, but Team Liquid usually plays very fast with few kills. and for Nouns, I would be surprised if could beat Tundra who is TI11 champion.