🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread

[arallmuus]

I'm not confident enough to back the underdogs except for Aurora, but even then I still assume they're going to lose if they keep playing at the same rate as they did during the groups.

Im assuming that they will hence I bet on Team Zero



No stupid risky bet for the day, just straight winners bet for these two games. I was about to add Falcons -1.5 but the odds was horrible. The bookies kept on giving horrible odds for Falcons despite how bad they were in the initial group stage. I kinda missed the old days when we could rake decent odds around 1.7-1.9 back then with Falcons

[passwordnow]

and as we proceed, I've got some bets on it. Hopefully this time, I'll get more wins. I want to add more bets but the odds for me doesn't make sense for those almost sure win teams.

I got Team Liquid too, I think they're well priced at 1.40~ and i've added Xtreme Gaming to sweep Talon Esports, considering they lost 2-0 to G2.IG makes me think they'll sweep Talon too.

Congrats to us, Team Liquid won 2-1 against BetBoom. And if you're able to add XG against Talon, you're also right there with a 2-0. Mate, you should be the first one to cast bets here so I can copy yours. 

BOL on your two tickets for today, I might live bet on Team Zero if my parlay lands. I'm not confident enough to back the underdogs except for Aurora, but even then I still assume they're going to lose if they keep playing at the same rate as they did during the groups.

This is going to be a long seeding decider phase, the third match for today is with C9 and 1w Team, first map goes to C9. To be honest, I just pushed this bet with Team Zero against Aurora as the other odds that I am looking at for match winners doesn't give me that courage to bet on. I don't want to bet on the other bets except match winner as of the moment.

[arallmuus]

This freaking bet made me mad lol. I should have gone for over 2.5 maps on Team Zero - Aurora

Mate, you should be the first one to cast bets here so I can copy yours. 

I can totally ensure you that when it comes to dota2 betting, ralle is pretty much one of the best around here 

The odds might not be that high but its better than losing obviously

So what we will get for tomorrow? @ralle14

Falcons and Team Spirit -1.5? I think both these two will win for sure and secure the top bracket

[ralle14]

Falcons and Team Spirit -1.5? I think both these two will win for sure and secure the top bracket

The third map of their series was a banger, but the loss stings a bit when Team Zero overextended during that gg push in the late game.

Those two favorites to sweep the series is a solid play @1.89, beastcoast already went 0-6 in the groups and isn't the same squad that can put pressure on good teams.

Nouns have a bit of a threat after they took a map off Team Falcons and Team Zero, but I still think it's too much of a task against Team Spirit.

[passwordnow]

Mate, you should be the first one to cast bets here so I can copy yours.  

I can totally ensure you that when it comes to dota2 betting, ralle is pretty much one of the best around here  

Yeah, no doubt about that.

The odds might not be that high but its better than losing obviously

My betting style is just like random. Sometimes I'd look at those odds that are good and if I think that the underdog can do such twists, I'd bet on them. Well, that's how I gamble and not really sometimes but at most times with the excitement.

So what we will get for tomorrow? @ralle14

Falcons and Team Spirit -1.5? I think both these two will win for sure and secure the top bracket

Falcons against beastcoast is one sided. And Team Spirit against nouns is the same. But then, there could be some come backs and good luck to the remaining seeder match later on.

[ralle14]

Falcons against beastcoast is one sided.

That's what we thought, but Team Falcons shot themselves in the foot with the flex draft in the first map by putting Windranger in the support role and went with Troll as their carry.

They almost recovered in that one team fight in the late game, but the draft gap started to show when they were kiting the Troll and had to commit heavily on the Kunkka.

Yeah, no doubt about that.

Thanks, I appreciate the kind words. 

[xLays]

I think we were all expecting the same outcome with Aurora Gaming; we thought Team Zero was going to come back in that series against Aurora if you're watching that time. Well, Team Liquid and Team Spirit are really strong teams, not gonna lie but Team Zero is quite different from them. That's why it wasn't surprising that Aurora Gaming managed to go against Team Zero. The odds were reasonable, giving us a hint that the game would be unpredictable. Anyway, right now, I'm watching Nouns vs. Team Spirit, and it looks like Team Spirit is going to the lower bracket.

[Coin_trader]

The odds were reasonable, giving us a hint that the game would be unpredictable. Anyway, right now, I'm watching Nouns vs. Team Spirit, and it looks like Team Spirit is going to the lower bracket.

I’m late to notice that TI13 is already started which is sucks because I missed a lot of betting opportunities on the group stage.

I just scout both team especially Nouns and I notice that they have Fly and Yuma as notable player but I’m confused on why Team Spirit can be kick out by this team to lower bracket while TS performs decent with complete roster on last tournament in Riyadh. Is there something bad happening with their game play on this TI?

Edit:

I just watch the match. Larl sucks again. Copy completely dominate the whole TS. 

[ralle14]

I just scout both team especially Nouns and I notice that they have Fly and Yuma as notable player but I’m confused on why Team Spirit can be kick out by this team to lower bracket while TS performs decent with complete roster on last tournament in Riyadh. Is there something bad happening with their game play on this TI?

Edit:

I just watch the match. Larl sucks again. Copy completely dominate the whole TS. 

The first map was close, it came down to who gets jumped on first and Tinker warp flaring the shackled enemies only helped nouns. The execution from the side of Nouns was great and the buybacks during the late game team fights gave them the edge to close the game.

On the next map, things got easier for Nouns when Team Spirit invested on heroes with mostly big single target spells. They also didn't learn from their mistakes in the previous map and still picked Batrider with Tinker support. This time Larl had to play it in the mid lane, and I think he underperformed since he's not in his usual heroes that could deal a lot of damage like Tiny, Puck, QOP.

Now they get to replicate their lower bracket run from TI10 or maybe G2.IG could send them home early.

[GreatArkansas]

Here you go guys, the The International 2024 (TI13) Playoffs bracket.
Team Liquid won against XTREME gaming, so they are the first time now to advance to the main event, XTREMEGAMING is dropped to the lower bracket.


I'm already late to bet, but here's my first bet on the playoff event. It's a parlay for a dominating team. I was able to get 2 odds, this is just an introduction, a small bet.
Good luck to everyone.

[Coin_trader]

I just scout both team especially Nouns and I notice that they have Fly and Yuma as notable player but I’m confused on why Team Spirit can be kick out by this team to lower bracket while TS performs decent with complete roster on last tournament in Riyadh. Is there something bad happening with their game play on this TI?

Edit:

I just watch the match. Larl sucks again. Copy completely dominate the whole TS. 

The first map was close, it came down to who gets jumped on first and Tinker warp flaring the shackled enemies only helped nouns. The execution from the side of Nouns was great and the buybacks during the late game team fights gave them the edge to close the game.

On the next map, things got easier for Nouns when Team Spirit invested on heroes with mostly big single target spells. They also didn't learn from their mistakes in the previous map and still picked Batrider with Tinker support. This time Larl had to play it in the mid lane, and I think he underperformed since he's not in his usual heroes that could deal a lot of damage like Tiny, Puck, QOP.

I didn’t watch the first map but I thought it’s not a close fight since Nouns already got a total read to their game play on game 2.

Larl Batrider act as support from mid to late game because he failed to deliver pressure on only games. Luna is having a hard time on the laning phase until SK create a lot of good play with his rotation and clutch epicenter during clash that gives Luna enough space to farm freely and recover.

Now they get to replicate their lower bracket run from TI10 or maybe G2.IG could send them home early.

I still think this way if collapse can do the same game he show last TI which is always the game changer on all of their TI run championship.

[passwordnow]

Got some 2-1 yesterday along with the other matches.



I have missed betting on the upper bracket this day but here are my bets for tomorrow in the lower bracet. I have bet for two match winners and two different bets.

[Coin_trader]

Done watching Falcons vs Tundra game! Game 2 is so intense since Tundra is already near defeat with exposed throne. Topson invo and Willow really do a solid job to delay the complete hero push of Falcons using all their disables which is very effective until Pure manage to revive and manage clean up all the Falcon heroes that targeting the throne.

I think Falcons should won that game if they just FF the throne and tower while ATF just doom Invoker. Skitter is the only one hitting the throne that makes it too slow to destroy. Too satisfying to watch close game like this. 

[passwordnow]

Done watching Falcons vs Tundra game! Game 2 is so intense since Tundra is already near defeat with exposed throne. Topson invo and Willow really do a solid job to delay the complete hero push of Falcons using all their disables which is very effective until Pure manage to revive and manage clean up all the Falcon heroes that targeting the throne.

I think Falcons should won that game if they just FF the throne and tower while ATF just doom Invoker. Skitter is the only one hitting the throne that makes it too slow to destroy. Too satisfying to watch close game like this.  

Falcons don't just know how to forfeit even if the game doesn't seem favorable to them. It's true that Topson's invo and willow did really well and it all started when they have pressured the bottom lane and they've been there for so long damaging the tier 3 tower. As for Falcons, they took a long time before they have noticed that and I think that was the momentum for Tundra and pure's luna is totally fat.

And I agree about the push at the mid up to throne for Falcons, they should have won that when they have coordinate to each other. It took a lot of seconds for them to realize that skiter was hitting the tower alone. But still, props to Topson and willow there as well. They have defended the throne very well and bought sometime for Luna and the other teammates that were about to respawn.

This is I think the first time that Tundra won against Team Falcons. CMIIW.

[Beparanf]

And I agree about the push at the mid up to throne for Falcons, they should have won that when they have coordinate to each other. It took a lot of seconds for them to realize that skiter was hitting the tower alone. But still, props to Topson and willow there as well. They have defended the throne very well and bought sometime for Luna and the other teammates that were about to respawn.

This is I think the first time that Tundra won against Team Falcons. CMIIW.

I think the rest of the team trying to catch sneaky invo and willow on the back lines why they can’t do anything to close the gap due to a lot of disable skills by the 2 heroes alone.

They are hesitant to hit the throne all together because they will just being kite by topson spells combo with willow AOE disable. I’m not sure if doom was cooldown that time but Ammar should just use it even to Willow just to stop one of them from delaying the push.

[passwordnow]

And I agree about the push at the mid up to throne for Falcons, they should have won that when they have coordinate to each other. It took a lot of seconds for them to realize that skiter was hitting the tower alone. But still, props to Topson and willow there as well. They have defended the throne very well and bought sometime for Luna and the other teammates that were about to respawn.

This is I think the first time that Tundra won against Team Falcons. CMIIW.

I think the rest of the team trying to catch sneaky invo and willow on the back lines why they can’t do anything to close the gap due to a lot of disable skills by the 2 heroes alone.

They are hesitant to hit the throne all together because they will just being kite by topson spells combo with willow AOE disable. I’m not sure if doom was cooldown that time but Ammar should just use it even to Willow just to stop one of them from delaying the push.

There was a doom there and it was casted that had led to topson dying but it was on the last seconds when luna was about to respawn. They'll surely be poked by invo and willow there while hitting the tower but I think that it would cause some panic to Tundra's side. Anyway, it seems that it was well calculated by Tundra and they all really great there and it seems that it's an actual TI finals match.

The last match for the day is in-game now, GG versus nouns.

[SUPERSAIAN]

There was a CS2 competition recently finished which was BetBoom Dacha Belgrade. I got really excited to see EF reaching the finale but they lost hard vs Spirit like 3-0. 



Now we have ESL Pro League Season 20 started already. I hope we can do better things. As an EF fan, it feels different to have a draw against another Turkish team Sangal Esports in the upper bracket.

The odds are like 1.48 for EF win and 2.50 for Sangal win. A single bet doesn't look worth for only 1.48 but I'm confident we will be victorious. 

I haven't watched cs matches for a long time. A lot has changed since cs2 came out. When I saw the success of Eternal Fire, I got back into it, actually good bets can be made by following. As you said, Eternal Fire - It didn't have much trouble beating Sangal, it was an easy bet, 1.48 odds weren't bad for those who trust Eternal Fire.

[ralle14]

I think Falcons should won that game if they just FF the throne and tower while ATF just doom Invoker. Skitter is the only one hitting the throne that makes it too slow to destroy. Too satisfying to watch close game like this. 

I also thought they had enough time from the long respawn timers. They might've underestimated Luna's burst potential in melee range combined with the lucent beams and glaives. Even if they all start hitting the throne I doubt it's enough because Tundra still has the fortification and if they grouped up it'll be an easy setup for Tundra.

The last match for the day is in-game now, GG versus nouns.

I almost believed in nouns after they're up 1-0, but Gaimin Gladiators shut them down in the next two maps.

[GreatArkansas]

I think Falcons should won that game if they just FF the throne and tower while ATF just doom Invoker. Skitter is the only one hitting the throne that makes it too slow to destroy. Too satisfying to watch close game like this. 

I also thought they had enough time from the long respawn timers. They might've underestimated Luna's burst potential in melee range combined with the lucent beams and glaives. Even if they all start hitting the throne I doubt it's enough because Tundra still has the fortification and if they grouped up it'll be an easy setup for Tundra.
(....)

Yeah, they really can't finish that, they still have fortification, and Luna is still there. They should not force the throne where the consequence is they will be wiped out, that's the mistake I saw from them because after the wipeout, it's already done, Tundra is already above and steps ahead of them.
But maybe they really forcing to finish as early as possible because they can't able to handle Luna anymore in late game? Which I agree also if that.

[ralle14]

Yeah, they really can't finish that, they still have fortification, and Luna is still there. They should not force the throne where the consequence is they will be wiped out, that's the mistake I saw from them because after the wipeout, it's already done, Tundra is already above and steps ahead of them.
But maybe they really forcing to finish as early as possible because they can't able to handle Luna anymore in late game? Which I agree also if that.

I had to look back at the highlights after Tundra lost the fight there was a lot of time, and the respawn timers were around two minutes. When Willow and Invoker were the only heroes alive from the side of Tundra they bought so much time after they tried to pick off Rubick near their outpost and spent 20-30 seconds to punish the Willow.

They still had the firepower to handle Luna as long as they threw everything on her, they got to run her down in that one late game fight around the Dire secret shop. During their final push, the Elder Titan ult on top probably caught them off guard.