🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread

[sunsilk]

Despite all of those records and histories, all I can say with these matches is that it's always been predictable.

But yesterday's matches I think were the first time that I've seen that all of the matches were in a clean sweep for all of the losers.

Now, the game of Cloud 9 and Team Falcons have started and they're on the picking phase, let's enjoy the series.

With this game I guess its time for Team Liquid to claim again with their aegis of the immortal they have a really good draft, but I didn't set a side right here the gameplay of the Tundra if topson and saksa will make their way out to this series, currently watching the game of the Tundra vs Xtreme gaming, XG will lose their next game its the last time we will see the previous LGD Ame to have an attempt to his aegis and still he will be called as the uncrowned king and if topson wins again another TI its a high value again if he will recruit to other team.

They're able to claim the aegis again, the organization Team Liquid but with a different roster from the first one that they have it on this The International.

Tundra was able to make top 3 and they're able to do it even with just a week of practice before TI. That's commendable and they did improved a lot even their roster isn't complete.

Sad for Ame to see gone away, many are rooting for him to win this TI. He's still an uncrowned king and congratulations to Team Liquid, easy 3-0 for them.

[ralle14]

My bet lost and so as the other folks here that bet for GG, the whole curse was broken by Team Liquid. Congratulations!

Team Liquid had the better game plan in this grand final, Boxi's Tusk and insania's Shadow Demon are always quick with the disengage whenever one of their cores is getting focused down. Gaimin Gladiators tried to steal away their heroes and even banned most of 33's best heroes, and it still wasn't enough to win a map.

I'm glad Tundra kept that final lower bracket competitive because if they got 2-0'd by Gaimin Gladiators, I might've put my money on them over Team Liquid. 

[GreatArkansas]

Yes sir... Lucky Team Liquid took the game 1.
I remember how Tundra took game 1 and then they took game  2 and game 3.
So this time, I'm betting game 2 that will go to Gaimin' Gladiators as they are also first pick with Naga Siren which it is always the first ban.
So, it's more likely high chance to win if you have Naga Siren. We will see.

As I mention previously, Whoever wins the game always win the series. With Liquid get the game 1 which means it's already easy for them to win all the remaining game because they already have the confidence to win the series.

I'm not sure how GG can even break Liquid with this kind of momentum. GG hero pick is kinda not their style already which is just a defensive pick.

Team Liquid do a great job on acquiring 33 as replacement with Zai. seems like 33 is the missing pieces for Team Liquid to finally get the aegis.

Yeah, 33 is a consistent offlaner even on Tundra he is the one that keeps dictating the tempo of the game.

Man, I lost too much in the championship last night, I did not even finish the game after they lost in the first 2 games, it's extremely disappointing yet I'm happy with Team Liquid, their roster right now is the best and they deserve it, especially Nisha! He is so strong.

Well, see you everyone at the next tournament of Dota, which is the PGL Wallachia Season 2, this coming October 4, 2024.

[passwordnow]

My bet lost and so as the other folks here that bet for GG, the whole curse was broken by Team Liquid. Congratulations!

Team Liquid had the better game plan in this grand final, Boxi's Tusk and insania's Shadow Demon are always quick with the disengage whenever one of their cores is getting focused down. Gaimin Gladiators tried to steal away their heroes and even banned most of 33's best heroes, and it still wasn't enough to win a map.

I agree, it was really a turning point every engagement from GG because of box's tusk snowball save and then disruption made by insania's shadow demon. That's what I have noticed from what quinn or any of the three cores have been doing wrong, they're targeting the wrong heroes for them to kill first. It's so late when they've realize that if they're against Team Liquid, tusk should be an autoban.

I'm glad Tundra kept that final lower bracket competitive because if they got 2-0'd by Gaimin Gladiators, I might've put my money on them over Team Liquid.  

It would have been a different if it's with Tundra. Finally, the real chain and curse has been broken by this roster. 33 is now a 2-time TI champ as well.

Man, I lost too much in the championship last night, I did not even finish the game after they lost in the first 2 games, it's extremely disappointing yet I'm happy with Team Liquid, their roster right now is the best and they deserve it, especially Nisha! He is so strong.

Many of us have counted for GG on that grand finals but Team Liquid proved us wrong.

Well, see you everyone at the next tournament of Dota, which is the PGL Wallachia Season 2, this coming October 4, 2024.

There are still some other tournaments as of now but they're just minors like the RES EU which is about to happen later this day.

[xLays]

I just felt bit sad for Team Liquid players that the champion of the Riyadh Masters 2024 earned more which is the Gamin Gladiators compared to the champion of The International 2024 Team Liquid. In the Riyadh Masters the prize was $1,500,000 for Champions while in The International it was only around $1,100,000. But I guess it’s fine because being 'The International Champion' is still different, as it’s considered the biggest event in the Dota 2 scene, regardless of the prize pool. Besides, The International has proven that Dota 2 is still alive and well. Dota 2 is not Dead Game.

[Coin_trader]

I just felt bit sad for Team Liquid players that the champion of the Riyadh Masters 2024 earned more which is the Gamin Gladiators compared to the champion of The International 2024 Team Liquid. In the Riyadh Masters the prize was $1,500,000 for Champions while in The International it was only around $1,100,000. But I guess it’s fine because being 'The International Champion' is still different, as it’s considered the biggest event in the Dota 2 scene, regardless of the prize pool. Besides, The International has proven that Dota 2 is still alive and well. Dota 2 is not Dead Game.

It’s true. Only the title of TI what makes it premium but on the bright side they do earned 800K on Riyadh as 2nd place compared to what GG earned as 2nd place in TI which is just 300K.

Overall, Both GG and Liquid earned almost equal for both TI and Riyadh Master total prize pool. I think having a revenge on a team that keeps beating them in the finals is already satisfaction guarantee for Liquid on this win.

[hedgeh0g]

I just felt bit sad for Team Liquid players that the champion of the Riyadh Masters 2024 earned more which is the Gamin Gladiators compared to the champion of The International 2024 Team Liquid. In the Riyadh Masters the prize was $1,500,000 for Champions while in The International it was only around $1,100,000. But I guess it’s fine because being 'The International Champion' is still different, as it’s considered the biggest event in the Dota 2 scene, regardless of the prize pool. Besides, The International has proven that Dota 2 is still alive and well. Dota 2 is not Dead Game.

Yes, you are probably right, and despite the difference in prize money, the status of TI13 champions will remain in the memory almost forever. As for me, I am sure that I will not remember the winners of RIADA, and I will be able to remember half of the winners of all TIs even in old age, lol. TI13 was not as bright for me as the others, but in general it is the most anticipated tournament for me, I just put everything aside and watch the games, because I get real pleasure from it. Nevertheless, I wondered how many more TIs we will see, because the 13th is already something that other games have not managed to do. This is a really cool result.

[Coin_trader]

I just felt bit sad for Team Liquid players that the champion of the Riyadh Masters 2024 earned more which is the Gamin Gladiators compared to the champion of The International 2024 Team Liquid. In the Riyadh Masters the prize was $1,500,000 for Champions while in The International it was only around $1,100,000. But I guess it’s fine because being 'The International Champion' is still different, as it’s considered the biggest event in the Dota 2 scene, regardless of the prize pool. Besides, The International has proven that Dota 2 is still alive and well. Dota 2 is not Dead Game.

Yes, you are probably right, and despite the difference in prize money, the status of TI13 champions will remain in the memory almost forever. As for me, I am sure that I will not remember the winners of RIADA, and I will be able to remember half of the winners of all TIs even in old age, lol.

First of all there’s no RIADA tournament. It’s Riyadh Masters which is just new tournament but has a huge reward but this year reward is relatively small compared to the previous year.

TI13 was not as bright for me as the others, but in general it is the most anticipated tournament for me, I just put everything aside and watch the games, because I get real pleasure from it. Nevertheless, I wondered how many more TIs we will see, because the 13th is already something that other games have not managed to do. This is a really cool result.

T13 is still hype and popular. Probably you are not that updated on e-sports. Also Dota2 is one the oldest e-sports that has tournament which means TI will keep coming as long as Dota2 community will still active.

[sunsilk]

TI13 was not as bright for me as the others, but in general it is the most anticipated tournament for me, I just put everything aside and watch the games, because I get real pleasure from it. Nevertheless, I wondered how many more TIs we will see, because the 13th is already something that other games have not managed to do. This is a really cool result.

Probably because of the prize pot for this TI13. While it's a chunk from the bigger prize pools in the past, still, the glory and pride of winning a title from the TI is still something different.

A title from the makers of the game itself is honorable and will be forever in the history of this game.

Looking forward to a better TI next year because Valve said that they're investing now more to the game and not with the skins.

[ralle14]

I just felt bit sad for Team Liquid players that the champion of the Riyadh Masters 2024 earned more which is the Gamin Gladiators compared to the champion of The International 2024 Team Liquid. In the Riyadh Masters the prize was $1,500,000 for Champions while in The International it was only around $1,100,000. But I guess it’s fine because being 'The International Champion' is still different, as it’s considered the biggest event in the Dota 2 scene, regardless of the prize pool. Besides, The International has proven that Dota 2 is still alive and well. Dota 2 is not Dead Game.

The prize money might be less than the Riyadh Masters, but they'll still receive a championship ring in the future and their names will be written on the aegis. It's still a big achievement for the Team Liquid players, we've seen other top teams compete several times and still can't come close to lifting the aegis like Gaimin Gladiators.

They're still making a lot of money regardless, and i'd still put TI above the rest despite the prize pool shrinking every year, it's still the tournament we always look forward to.

[passwordnow]

The prize money might be less than the Riyadh Masters, but they'll still receive a championship ring in the future and their names will be written on the aegis. It's still a big achievement for the Team Liquid players, we've seen other top teams compete several times and still can't come close to lifting the aegis like Gaimin Gladiators.

This is true, their names are now carved in the aegis and this is only exclusive to the champs of every TI. While the Riyadh Masters could do the same but its feat feel differently. GG is like Team Secret last year IIRC or two years ago, they're so good in majors but didn't lifted the aegis, that's so close and the same goes for Team Falcons. While there is majors yet, some side tournaments like RES Regional Series EU#4.

I'd take a bet for AVULUS against One Move.




And moving on to CS2 with the ESL Pro League Season 20. I'd picked one match for now, FaZe versus Complexity Gaming. Let's go FaZe Clan!

[passwordnow]

I'd take a bet for AVULUS against One Move.




And moving on to CS2 with the ESL Pro League Season 20. I'd picked one match for now, FaZe versus Complexity Gaming. Let's go FaZe Clan!

Got these bets lost. I watched the match of FaZe and Complexity, I was so disappointed. The strategy on the map 1 that Complexity gaming keeps on being done repetitively against FaZe. Whether they're the terrorists or the counter-terrorists, they have been flawlessly doing the same strat of winning by numbers.

Anyway, we have a new day so new bets for me for dota 2 in the RES EU. Avulus and Passion will be in a few.

[l99l]

Eternal Fire won the MongolZ team bo3 2-1. It was a very close match.
Mirage map was MongolZ's choice, they do a good job on this map and they knew that EF was not good on this map and they made the map choice accordingly.
M3jer analyzed the MongolZ team well. We eliminated MongolZ with the Inferno map on the Decider map, Vitality is next.
We beat Vitality before. It was a tough match for EF.

[passwordnow]

Got 1-1 yesterday. Avulus, I've lost my faith in you guys, you've let me down. 




New day, new bets. 1 for dota 2 and 1 for CS2. Good luck to all of the bettors out there, I know that the TI13 is still fresh and I'd post some reshuffles later with the roster or if someone goes first on me much better.

[ralle14]

We beat Vitality before. It was a tough match for EF.

Vitality lost and Eternal Fire gets to advance to the semis after a long decider map that lasted forty rounds. Zywoo had that one crazy 1v4 clutch to force OT, but they fell short in the later rounds.

They'll face MIBR tomorrow and I think they should make it in the grand final after beating the best team in the tournament and they haven't lost a series against this MIBR squad.

Now we're on to the heavier side of the bracket, Navi vs. Spirit, and then G2 vs. Liquid. I'm expecting G2 to beat Liquid while the other series is a coinflip that could easily go to a third map, that said, i'll be on the over 2.5 maps.



 

[passwordnow]

Finally, I've got my bets yesterday 2-0. 1 for dota 2 and 1 for CS2. I haven't think yet if I am going to bet with any match for both esports for today but if I don't then I'd take this day as a rest day and then will probably be back tomorrow for some actions again and will choose what to bet for.

[l99l]

We beat Vitality before. It was a tough match for EF.

Vitality lost and Eternal Fire gets to advance to the semis after a long decider map that lasted forty rounds. Zywoo had that one crazy 1v4 clutch to force OT, but they fell short in the later rounds.

They'll face MIBR tomorrow and I think they should make it in the grand final after beating the best team in the tournament and they haven't lost a series against this MIBR squad.

Now we're on to the heavier side of the bracket, Navi vs. Spirit, and then G2 vs. Liquid. I'm expecting G2 to beat Liquid while the other series is a coinflip that could easily go to a third map, that said, i'll be on the over 2.5 maps.



 

On the Decider map, wasn't 4k Zywoo's clutch the Ace clutch, I may be remembering wrong. Decider extended 3 times.
I thought Zywoo's clutch would bring the Inferno map to Vitality, but it didn't. Apex collapsed mentally during the match and after.
Xanteres and Woxic were the heroes of Eternal Fire.

[emrecemsan]

We are coming for the ESL Pro League championship, let's go!!! 

I must admit. I didn't expect to win the series at all. Because Vitality were already at the top of ESL ranking and they had a huge form. 11-win streak... We finished that. It is still unbelievable and very satisfying for me. 

Hats off to XANTARES and ZywOo especially on the last map. That was an insane OT performance from both. I wouldn't like to overlook woxic and Spinx too of course. They were also great.

Now we must be able to beat MIBR with this huge concentration. If we face NaVi in the grand final, I hope we have revenge and win. Because we just can't beat them for a long time.

[execijutiere]

We are coming for the ESL Pro League championship, let's go!!! 

I must admit. I didn't expect to win the series at all. Because Vitality were already at the top of ESL ranking and they had a huge form. 11-win streak... We finished that. It is still unbelievable and very satisfying for me. 

Hats off to XANTARES and ZywOo especially on the last map. That was an insane OT performance from both. I wouldn't like to overlook woxic and Spinx too of course. They were also great.

Now we must be able to beat MIBR with this huge concentration. If we face NaVi in the grand final, I hope we have revenge and win. Because we just can't beat them for a long time.

The match should have ended very early and EF should have made it to the semifinals, but after simple mistakes and ridiculous hands, the match went on and on.We can definitely say that Eternal Fire will win this match without going to overtime. At 11-9, the team struggled a bit mentally after ZywOo's 1v4, and we can say that the young player really showed an extra performance in that round. It was also really unfortunate that Spinx accidentally HS'd Woxic at 17-17 when it was 1v1.Fortunately, the duo of Woxic and Xantares managed to win in inferno and advanced to the semifinals with a 2-1 win.

[ralle14]

On the Decider map, wasn't 4k Zywoo's clutch the Ace clutch, I may be remembering wrong. Decider extended 3 times.
I thought Zywoo's clutch would bring the Inferno map to Vitality, but it didn't. Apex collapsed mentally during the match and after.
Xanteres and Woxic were the heroes of Eternal Fire.

It was both an ace and a clutch round from Zywoo here's the clip from that round.

Both favorites in the semi-final matches are too good to lose. Navi dispatched Team Spirit killing my over 2.5 ticket, and Eternal Fire got an easier matchup after beating Vitality the other day.

I'll start with Eternal Fire and then do the same for Navi, maybe I can catch some good odds near the starting time.