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June 02, 2020, 12:13:56 AM
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I don't consider you to be a peaceful protester after you begin violating the law and stay past curfew.

Why not?  If I break curfew and burn buildings, I am a violent protester.

If I break curfew and do nothing else, I am a peaceful protester.  

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June 02, 2020, 12:17:03 AM
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i bet tecshare has very little education on what was happening in europe when facism was spreading.  if he did he would never link todays shit for brains that are burning down the country to the antifacists that were resisting hitler and mussolini.

The "Antifa" are amazingly identical to Hilter's brown shirts, and other provacateur operations of the 1920-1940s.
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June 02, 2020, 03:10:25 AM
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i bet tecshare has very little education on what was happening in europe when facism was spreading.  if he did he would never link todays shit for brains that are burning down the country to the antifacists that were resisting hitler and mussolini.

My guess is the thought process went something like this:

Trump: 'antifa is a terrorist organization.'
Other people: 'it's not an organization, it's a movement.'
TECSHARE: Those other people are questioning Trump.  I must prove them wrong!  **googles anti facists** Bingo! 'They are in fact an international organization, and they have been in Europe since the 20's!'
Other people: **facepalm**

I didn't need Trump to tell me what I already know. As you can see here, and here, I was raising the alarm about this issue a long time ago.



They are in fact an international organization, and they have been in Europe since the 20's.
Do you really think that there's one single organization that's been around since the rise of fascism that lead to WW2?

It's a movement.  Not an organization.

Who said it had to be a single unbroken chain for it to qualify as a FTO? Also they currently operate internationally. Additionally I clearly documented they are an organization. Just because they have a mostly cellular structure doesn't mean they aren't an organization. You know who else has a cellular structure? Other terrorist organizations.



i bet tecshare has very little education on what was happening in europe when facism was spreading.  if he did he would never link todays shit for brains that are burning down the country to the antifacists that were resisting hitler and mussolini.

I am not linking it, the smooth brains burning shit down are.
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June 02, 2020, 03:46:46 AM
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i bet tecshare has very little education on what was happening in europe when facism was spreading.  if he did he would never link todays shit for brains that are burning down the country to the antifacists that were resisting hitler and mussolini.
I am not linking it, the smooth brains burning shit down are.

Fascism is a super nationalist, authoritarian political ideology that.  Fascism is explicitly against democracy.

(Powerful military) + (Dictator that doesn't hesitate to use it to destroy any person, group, country or race that stands between them and more power) = (Fascism)

This is what the anti fascist in Europe during the early 20th century were resisting.

By making this claim about the modern American Antifa:

They are in fact an international organization, and they have been in Europe since the 20's.

You are not only legitimizing them, you're disrespecting those that fought against fascism and implying that Trump is actually fascist.


tldr;
My opinions that I'm sure TECSHARE actually agrees with:
Anti fascist movement in Europe during first half of 20th century == good.  
The American political movement that is referred to as 'Antifa' == bad.
Hitler and Mussolini == fascists
Trump !== fascist (ty US constitution)

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June 02, 2020, 04:07:54 AM
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you really need to have some mush in your brain to say that  :

Anti-fascist = terrorist

And then on the other hand :
White supremacists = not terrorists  (even when they shoot 50 kids in a college campus)
Nazi = Not terrorists   (even when they shoot 50 kids in a college campus)
Klu klu klan = not terrorsits  (even when they lynch/ hung american citizen)


Anyway, AntiFa members are Americans, so Americans are terrorists (right ? it is not me that say it, it is Trump).
Trump is American, antifas are Americans,  hence Trump is a terrorist.

Thanks, Trump you are definitely making the world a better place

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June 02, 2020, 06:30:28 AM
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Klu klu klan = not terrorsits  (even when they lynch/ hung american citizen)

Fun fact:
TECSHARE considers progressives more racist than any member of the Klu Klux Klan.


edit: actually there's nothing fun about that. 

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June 02, 2020, 07:35:07 AM
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I don't consider you to be a peaceful protester after you begin violating the law and stay past curfew.

Why not?  If I break curfew and burn buildings, I am a violent protester.

If I break curfew and do nothing else, I am a peaceful protester.  

Because the curfews have been put in place to prevent looters from taking advantage of a lack of man power from police. Organized protesting is fine and no governmental body nor police have an issue with that. There were even some LEO's joining in. However, when protests go on till 2 in the morning, you're without a doubt going to get riots/looting.

Sucks, but it's a classic example of a few bad apples spoiling the bunch. Not really any sort of alternative.
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Just before President Trump was elected by the community, some radical islamist and racist terrorist organizations in the Middle East were being both financed and armed by USA (This issue has nothing to do with the American people, they are not even aware of what is going on in the world due to the puppet media. This media also harms the American people, all they want is to control the world and continue to be a source of finance. In fact, names like George Soros, they have led American politics for a very long time but now I believe this will change thanks to President Trump). I was glad as if Recep Tayyip Erdoğan was gone from my country when President Trump was elected but you know what happened? Trump was targeted million times by the puppet media (it's disgusting). Tecshare just doesn't think political correctness is correct and he is an honourable man who loves his own country. I am aware of what problems you have in your country. Never stop telling the truth, my friend.
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June 02, 2020, 10:42:25 AM
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Just before President Trump was elected by the community, some radical islamist and racist terrorist organizations in the Middle East were being both financed and armed by USA (This issue has nothing to do with the American people, they are not even aware of what is going on in the world due to the puppet media. This media also harms the American people, all they want is to control the world and continue to be a source of finance. In fact, names like George Soros, they have led American politics for a very long time but now I believe this will change thanks to President Trump). I was glad as if Recep Tayyip Erdoğan was gone from my country when President Trump was elected but you know what happened? Trump was targeted million times by the puppet media (it's disgusting). Tecshare just doesn't think political correctness is correct and he is an honourable man who loves his own country. I am aware of what problems you have in your country. Never stop telling the truth, my friend.

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Weren't Americans fighting facists in WW2? Should they also punish the veterans retroactively?

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Weren't Americans fighting facists in WW2? Should they also punish the veterans retroactively?

So the violent extremist left has killed off the old Antifa, skinned it, and wears that skin as a shroud to ward off complaints about it's intents and purpose.

The Left has done this sort of thing many times. It's nothing new.
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So the violent extremist left has killed off the old Antifa, skinned it, and wears that skin as a shroud to ward off complaints about it's intents and purpose.

The Left has done this sort of thing many times. It's nothing new.

Only purpose "Antifa" has ever had is to oppose fascists. Antifa is a wide spectrum of people, literally anyone opposing fascists can call themselves antifa. And i wouldn't call people burning buildings "left side" because left side wants a big government and often comply with rules without any hesition, (wearing masks etc), so destroying govenrment property doesn't suit that ideology. People who are burning buildings are frustrated and that frustration doesn't need to have anything to do with right/left axel.

Also antifa doesn't have "leaders" so it's hardly organization or has a spokesman. Rounding up some activists that happen to oppose Facism as well as many other things doesn't do anything to this mystical "Antifa".

So sue me, i am antifa.

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June 02, 2020, 01:11:49 PM
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Socialism and communism should be banned and any followers should be imprisoned and re-educated.

Those ideologies are evil and incompatible with capitalism.

The middle-class or rich kids who are disillusioned by these ideologies should be sent off to North Korea to live as North Koreans for a while until they understand that capitalism is the most natural; the best economic system ever invented.

ANTIFA is a dangerous organization.  No central leadership to arrest or destroy.  Sort of like Al-Queda.  It is an idea that needs to be killed.

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ANTIFA is a dangerous organization.  No central leadership to arrest or destroy.  Sort of like Al-Queda.Bitcoin  It is an idea that needs to be killed.

Do you realize you are actually describing bitcoin? Cool

You want to imprison every ANTIFA member there is? Do you know how many thousands of them?

That's not a way to fight communism or any other idea.

Those ideologies are evil and incompatible with capitalism.

What if capitalism is the problem?

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i bet tecshare has very little education on what was happening in europe when facism was spreading.  if he did he would never link todays shit for brains that are burning down the country to the antifacists that were resisting hitler and mussolini.
I am not linking it, the smooth brains burning shit down are.

Fascism is a super nationalist, authoritarian political ideology that.  Fascism is explicitly against democracy.

(Powerful military) + (Dictator that doesn't hesitate to use it to destroy any person, group, country or race that stands between them and more power) = (Fascism)

This is what the anti fascist in Europe during the early 20th century were resisting.

By making this claim about the modern American Antifa:

They are in fact an international organization, and they have been in Europe since the 20's.

You are not only legitimizing them, you're disrespecting those that fought against fascism and implying that Trump is actually fascist.


tldr;
My opinions that I'm sure TECSHARE actually agrees with:
Anti fascist movement in Europe during first half of 20th century == good.  
The American political movement that is referred to as 'Antifa' == bad.
Hitler and Mussolini == fascists
Trump !== fascist (ty US constitution)

That is a really half assed definition of fascism do you could shoehorn Trump into it. What nazis remain in the US are small in number, a joke, and almost totally ineffectual. I am also willing to bet a large number of those are federal agents doing surveillance. ANTIFA on the other hand has been a growing problem engaging literally in terrorism for some years.

Legal definition of terrorism:

"As used in this chapter—
(1) the term “international terrorism” means activities that—
(A) involve violent acts or acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State, or that would be a criminal violation if committed within the jurisdiction of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended—
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
(C) occur primarily outside the territorial jurisdiction of the United States, or transcend national boundaries in terms of the means by which they are accomplished, the persons they appear intended to intimidate or coerce, or the locale in which their perpetrators operate or seek asylum;"

I go down that list and the organization known as ANTIFA checks all of those boxes.

I am not disrespecting them, these protofascist cunts that call themselves ANTIFA are by LAARPing revolutionary while the literally burn the country down as if that will brig social justice. They are just a mob of idiots suffering delusions of grandeur and pretending to be revolutionaries while they assault, murder, and burn things down.



you really need to have some mush in your brain to say that  :

Anti-fascist = terrorist

And then on the other hand :
White supremacists = not terrorists  (even when they shoot 50 kids in a college campus)
Nazi = Not terrorists   (even when they shoot 50 kids in a college campus)
Klu klu klan = not terrorsits  (even when they lynch/ hung american citizen)


Anyway, AntiFa members are Americans, so Americans are terrorists (right ? it is not me that say it, it is Trump).
Trump is American, antifas are Americans,  hence Trump is a terrorist.

Thanks, Trump you are definitely making the world a better place

I can call myself Prince Abdul Superman Duke of York. That doesn't make me any of those things. The logic you are using here is beyond simplistic.


Klu klu klan = not terrorsits  (even when they lynch/ hung american citizen)

Fun fact:
TECSHARE considers progressives more racist than any member of the Klu Klux Klan.


edit: actually there's nothing fun about that.

Any member of the KKK? No. Most members of the KKK? Quite possibly. The KKK has been castrated many years ago and is mostly today just a bunch of ineffectual rednecks. Some of them are even doing community work now. ANTIFA is churning out extremists assembly line style. Lets look at some common progressive beliefs and tell me which ones aren't racist.

-Minorities are incapable of achieving things on their own so they need special help form white people to help them succeed

-Only white people can be racist

-Support Planned Parenthood which by far ends the lives of mostly black children by the millions and was created by an open eugenicist Margaret Sanger.

-They believe in a "Hierarchy of Identities" also known as a "Progressive Stack" which is used at speaking events which automatically gives priority to the "most oppressed" based on race, gender, sexuality, etc.

-Support entitlement programs that make minorities dependent and break up families

-Support gun control which was originally designed to disarm free slaves in the USA

-Support illegal immigration which overwhelmingly harms black workers

There is a lot more, but this is enough for what is arguably off topic from the conversation. Progressives use accusations of racism as a thin veneer to cover for their own perpetration of it and to hide from the guilt of the results of the racist ideologies they support.







Weren't Americans fighting facists in WW2? Should they also punish the veterans retroactively?

I can call myself a WW2 veteran just like I can call myself an "antifascist". That doesn't magically make me either one of those things.



So the violent extremist left has killed off the old Antifa, skinned it, and wears that skin as a shroud to ward off complaints about it's intents and purpose.

The Left has done this sort of thing many times. It's nothing new.

Only purpose "Antifa" has ever had is to oppose fascists. Antifa is a wide spectrum of people, literally anyone opposing fascists can call themselves antifa. And i wouldn't call people burning buildings "left side" because left side wants a big government and often comply with rules without any hesition, (wearing masks etc), so destroying govenrment property doesn't suit that ideology. People who are burning buildings are frustrated and that frustration doesn't need to have anything to do with right/left axel.

Also antifa doesn't have "leaders" so it's hardly organization or has a spokesman. Rounding up some activists that happen to oppose Facism as well as many other things doesn't do anything to this mystical "Antifa".

So sue me, i am antifa.

ANTIFA are what have been described as "useful idiots" in the past. They adorn themselves in the heroic mythology of fighting fascism, when in reality their actions demonstrate them to be everything they claim to hate. ANTIFA does in fact have leaders, organizations, and spokesman as I have already documented. Most ANTIFA members are not just activists, they are extremists who perpetrate criminal violence, and are by definition terrorists.



Weren't Americans fighting facists in WW2? Should they also punish the veterans retroactively?

So the violent extremist left has killed off the old Antifa, skinned it, and wears that skin as a shroud to ward off complaints about it's intents and purpose.

The Left has done this sort of thing many times. It's nothing new.

Exactly. The left, and communists especially are very fond of rebranding. That is why the phrase "that wasn't real communism" has become such a joke and a cliche, because they are constantly just renaming themselves while perpetrating the exact same ideologies. It is a constant game of redefinition of terms rather than changing of policy and ideology in order to escape culpability for their actions. This is at the core of communist/Marxist ideology to infiltrate organizations and identities and subvert them toward communist/Marxist goals at the expense of the original intent of the group/identity. Once they are exposed, they abandon that identity, and move on to the next.
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June 02, 2020, 02:35:55 PM
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and lets not miss the fact that the word "terrorist" has been hyper-politicized over the last 20 years to loosely mean "anyone who the government wants to get rid of".   The US has constantly called groups terrorists and then armed them and supported them in later conflicts when they needed their help.
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June 02, 2020, 02:39:56 PM
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and lets not miss the fact that the word "terrorist" has been hyper-politicized over the last 20 years to loosely mean "anyone who the government wants to get rid of".   The US has constantly called groups terrorists and then armed them and supported them in later conflicts when they needed their help.

I am using the legal definition of the term terrorist. The rest of your statement is a non sequitur.
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June 02, 2020, 03:00:52 PM
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Weren't Americans fighting facists in WW2? Should they also punish the veterans retroactively?

americans were not just fighting fasicm, they also fought against:

german nationalism

german national socialism

german capitalism,

etc.

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June 02, 2020, 04:14:41 PM
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and lets not miss the fact that the word "terrorist" has been hyper-politicized over the last 20 years to loosely mean "anyone who the government wants to get rid of".   The US has constantly called groups terrorists and then armed them and supported them in later conflicts when they needed their help.

I am using the legal definition of the term terrorist. The rest of your statement is a non sequitur.

The page on Antifa by the Southern Poverty Law Center is quite interesting. It's obviously they are pushing the lie and backing the violent anarchists/communists.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2020/06/01/designating-antifa-domestic-terrorist-organization-dangerous-threatens-civil-liberties

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June 02, 2020, 04:42:36 PM
Last edit: June 02, 2020, 05:10:11 PM by PrimeNumber7
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you really need to have some mush in your brain to say that  :

Anti-fascist = terrorist

And then on the other hand :


Antifa is a fascist organization, despite their name. This is similar to North Korea having Democratic in it. They claim anything they disagree with is “fascist” which is similar to how many on the left claim that anytime someone disagrees with their stance, they are “racist”.

Police in the majority of cities are not arresting rioters, except in the most egregious cases, and this is not even happening all the time.

Over 4,000 arrests have been made as of last night:
https://apnews.com/55933b8695e36337a6bfe96728b3e7f3

There's plenty of footage showing that many of the arrests were peaceful and made for violating the curfew or having an unlawful assembly.  
I am not concerned with unlawful assembly, I am concerned with people burning buildings, shooting cops, breaking windows, stealing from stores, and beating people. The rioters have been able to act with impunity. Here is the proof, the riots are continuing and are getting worse. Arresting someone with unlawful assembly usually amounts to being in handcuffs for a few hours, being released and getting a fine that won’t get paid. The rioters should be facing years/decades in prison.

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If you look at who is defending who and whose statements have been debunked, you should get an idea as to what is true. On the left, politicians are directing police to not arrest rioters and are in some cases defending them. They are being called out for what they are on the right.
I'm trying to find a politician that is calling police to not arrest rioters, but can't.  I'm seeing lots of statements condemning violence and looting while also supporting peaceful protests and condemning all the footage of police abusing their power during protests.
The mayors and governors are in charge of the police force and National Guard response. If rioters are not being arrested, this is because they have been ordered not to, or have been ordered to arrest people in certain circumstances.

Many in the left wing media have been defending the riots.  

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In Minnesota, elected officials had said that over 80% of rioters were from out of town and that White supremacy groups are instigating the riots, however arrest records show that most arrested are not from out of the state.
I assume you're referring to the governor, who made it pretty clear he couldn't confirm it and his suspicion was based on national reports.  He also walked back his estimate that 80% being out of state when the arrest data came out.
Yes, he has not offered any proof. The rioters are not white supremacy groups, here is my proof, if they were, left wing extremists celebrities would not be donating millions collectively to bail them out of jail.

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Also, to prove a point about the funding of Antifa, there are videos of people going to piles of bricks in the middle of cities. How would a pile of random bricks get to the middle of a street?  Here is an example
https://mobile.twitter.com/fleccas/status/1267326702771793920
Very well could be antifa.  Wouldn't be surprised if the Bricks belonged to the owner of the closest building which had scaffolding up either.
That wasn’t the only video I saw of that happening. Here is better evidence
https://mobile.twitter.com/ColumbusPolice/status/1267568211370934272

I don’t think the bricks belonged to any building nearby.


I have noticed there is a lot of propaganda. There is actually a troubling amount of propaganda, to the extent that the presence of this much propaganda bothers me.
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