'Trump Designates Antifa "A Terrorist Organization"'

[KingScorpio]

democratic party needs also to be banned, its identity politics reached a level on which you can clearly say that the democratic party is systematically racist and are causing it.

trump wont be able to continue his presidency with it.

It's like the twilight zone.

TECSHARE is preaching about how we need government regulations on big companies so they don't get to much power, and Scorpio is all the sudden anti-racism?  

the american society needs to become completely different, it is constantly relying on europeans to migrate into it to keep sanity, trump is running the transition towards a selfsustaining society, it will be ugly and painful for the hedonistic americans, which till recently relied on immigrants running the nation for them.


no one truly in his mind can be totally anti racism, because it has possibilities that you might not want (reptilians, wolfpeople etc., sickly expensive retards)

future of usa is rather scanning black people for racism than being accused by black people for racism.

how on earth do black people have the right to demand from other races to be uplifted? black people invented theirn own form of slavery by migranting somewhere and demanding help, for whatever excuse, why are the greeks supposed to care for somalians instead of their own children? etc.

black people will never be satisfied and always bring up new excuses. the republic under trump can be fairly considered nonracist to antiracist. although i think less individualism would be more healthy.

i am looking forward towards trump banning the sick democrats and their media.

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[cryptoperkele]

So the groups own website is not proof enough? The guide published by ANTIFA detailing how to start a group isn't enough?

[slaps "CONSPIRACY" sticker on it] "Yep, no need to reply now"

Just because you refuse to read it doesn't change the fact that I documented they are in fact a collection of organized groups.

You do realize how network works? Anyone can pose as ANTIFA, even nazis. It's a loosely affiliated network that doesn't have a head.

How can you even watch the protests and claim that ANTIFA are organized when all you see is angry mob mentality of frustrated people, and in the contrast you see the police forces that are actually organized in comparison. Organizations need to have hierarchy to work properly.

Reason why i refuse to go trough your weird mount of "evidence" is because i've dealed with conspiracy theorists before and this is how they operate. Instead of focusing on providing clear proof with precision, they will bury you under the vague "evidence" that is often a pile of videos, sites, etc, and at this point usually people leave them alone and they think they have won the argument because no one with a life doesn't have time to watch that crap. And even if you waste your time debunking them one by one, it doesn't matter; They will just keep pouring more video links from their years of basement "research" from vague sites where they have connected some dots in their heads while searching for something more meaningful. Truth is just too boring for them and it's never enough.

If you wouldn't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist you would have more systematic approach on providing evidence, but that would require actual proof.
Just to be clear, the burden of proof is on you. Mountain of nonsense is not evidence. You are not teaching me anything, you are trying to shut me up.

[BADecker]

Riot organizer?


George Soros "Paid Protestor" Opens Up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op1yqcIdhbE

[Spendulus]

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You do realize how network works? Anyone can pose as ANTIFA, even nazis. It's a loosely affiliated network that doesn't have a head.

How can you even watch the protests and claim that ANTIFA are organized ....

I recently watched a mainland China documentary about Mao's takeover of the mainland. The tactics used, including large networks that were rigidly organized into three person cells. Those in each had limited knowledge of any outside of their own cell. The protests, the provocators in the protests, the reactions, were weirdly identical to current American events.

So please layoff the condescending "You realize how network works," nobody here is that stupid.

As for XYZ being a "loosely affiliated network that doesn't have a head" how about if you want to assert that, you have the burden of proving it? Let me guess, you read that somewhere on the Internet and believed it?

Or do you think that because a couple liberals here agreed with you that you are right? It doesn't work that way. What's ACTUALLY going to come down on this is now with a designated TERRORIST label on these sick puppies, in very short order we'll have all the facts on what and who is behind them.

[reginalkri]

I believe there is no right side in this conflict anymore which makes things even more messy.

So called Antifa people rob shops while MAGA people shoot people with bows.

It is out of control now and Trump's move isn't going to solve a damn.

The truth is even in America there are too many poor people and they got sick of being poor. That's  where the hate coming from.

There's no MAGA group organizing to shoot others with bows.

[Spendulus]

I believe there is no right side in this conflict anymore which makes things even more messy.

So called Antifa people rob shops while MAGA people shoot people with bows.

It is out of control now and Trump's move isn't going to solve a damn.

The truth is even in America there are too many poor people and they got sick of being poor. That's  where the hate coming from.

There's no MAGA group organizing to shoot others with bows.

Curious how the propagandists create moral equivalency and credible doubt, isn't it?

Nice redirection and reframing of the arguments.How do you like the path you are being led down, the narrative you are told to argue for or against?

[reginalkri]

I believe there is no right side in this conflict anymore which makes things even more messy.

So called Antifa people rob shops while MAGA people shoot people with bows.

It is out of control now and Trump's move isn't going to solve a damn.

The truth is even in America there are too many poor people and they got sick of being poor. That's  where the hate coming from.

There's no MAGA group organizing to shoot others with bows.

Curious how the propagandists create moral equivalency and credible doubt, isn't it?

Nice redirection and reframing of the arguments.How do you like the path you are being led down, the narrative you are told to argue for or against?

I really don't care much about all this, it's just that "The what about them," to somehow justify something bad.

[cryptoperkele]

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As for XYZ being a "loosely affiliated network that doesn't have a head" how about if you want to assert that, you have the burden of proving it? Let me guess, you read that somewhere on the Internet and believed it?

Or do you think that because a couple liberals here agreed with you that you are right? It doesn't work that way.
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Lot's assumptions you got there. I was pointing out why i don't think that antifa is not an organization. If you disagree with me on that, start by editing wikipedia and please explain it in there that why it's suddenly actually an organization. After that we can debate on the relevance of your references. If they are solid, i'll agree with you. Before that, the burden of proof lies on you.



<- From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)

[Spendulus]

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As for XYZ being a "loosely affiliated network that doesn't have a head" how about if you want to assert that, you have the burden of proving it? Let me guess, you read that somewhere on the Internet and believed it?

Or do you think that because a couple liberals here agreed with you that you are right? It doesn't work that way.
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Lot's assumptions you got there. I was pointing out why i don't think that antifa is not an organization. If you disagree with me on that, start by editing wikipedia and please explain it in there that why it's suddenly actually an organization. After that we can debate on the relevance of your references. If they are solid, i'll agree with you. Before that, the burden of proof lies on you.



<- From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)

Figured that's what you'd do. You did in fact read that "somewhere on the Internet" and believed it. Next you'll be arguing that your idea on what "loosely organized" is includes near simultaneous flash mobs at specific locations organized by cells using disposable burn phones, again across the USA.

[cryptoperkele]

Figured that's what you'd do. You did in fact read that "somewhere on the Internet" and believed it.

Funny how you consider wikipedia article as "somewhere on the internet". Compared to what source exacly?

This was basically common knowledge and no one didn't want to challenge it before president snowflake came along.
I could argue that current director of FBI has also stated that they view antifa more as ideology then organization, but i guess you woudn't care now would you? Because of your expertise feelings about it?

[TECSHARE]

"Yuri Bezmenov - Psychological Warfare Subversion & Control of Western Society"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXN0aJD2BO4

[Spendulus]

Figured that's what you'd do. You did in fact read that "somewhere on the Internet" and believed it.

Funny how you consider wikipedia article as "somewhere on the internet". Compared to what source exacly?

This was basically common knowledge and no one didn't want to challenge it before president snowflake came along.
I could argue that current director of FBI has also stated that they view antifa more as ideology then organization, but i guess you woudn't care now would you? Because of your expertise feelings about it?

No I wouldn't particularly care. Because Antifa is now designated a terrorist ORGANIZATION.

So what exactly do you want to argue? That's wrong?

Interesting history of Antifa.

https://americanmind.org/essays/the-real-history-of-antifa/

[cryptoperkele]

Because Antifa is now designated a terrorist ORGANIZATION.

Designated by whom? By Trump? That's not how words work. Reinventing the terminology doesn't really solve anything.
Just like it would be meaningless to designate Bitcoin as a company in order to shut it down. Just by saying it doesn't change how it operates.

So what exactly do you want to argue? That's wrong?

You are catching up. It's not an organization.

[Spendulus]

Because Antifa is now designated a terrorist ORGANIZATION.

Designated by whom? By Trump? That's not how words work. Reinventing the terminology doesn't really solve anything.
Just like it would be meaningless to designate Bitcoin as a company in order to shut it down. Just by saying it doesn't change how it operates.

So what exactly do you want to argue? That's wrong?

You are catching up. It's not an organization.

I got it now, believe me. Asshats aiding and abetting the precisely synchronized, orchestrated waves of violence, who now may confront FBI agents asking about their actions as part of Antifa, can  now stand down the agents by arguing "Antifa is not an organization."

Sure am glad we all got that figured out!

[KingScorpio]

BLM should be designated as a racist organisation

[TwitchySeal]

Because Antifa is now designated a terrorist ORGANIZATION.

Designated by whom? By Trump? That's not how words work. Reinventing the terminology doesn't really solve anything.
Just like it would be meaningless to designate Bitcoin as a company in order to shut it down. Just by saying it doesn't change how it operates.

So what exactly do you want to argue? That's wrong?

You are catching up. It's not an organization.

I got it now, believe me. Asshats aiding and abetting the precisely synchronized, orchestrated waves of violence, who now may confront FBI agents asking about their actions as part of Antifa, can  now stand down the agents by arguing "Antifa is not an organization."

Sure am glad we all got that figured out!

Antifa is a movement, not an organization. 

You need to stop relying on the media and do some objective research of your own.  Try to prove yourself wrong - it won't be hard.

[tvbcof]

Antifa is a movement, not an organization. 

You need to stop relying on the media and do some objective research of your own.  Try to prove yourself wrong - it won't be hard.

I learned some stuff about 'antifa' that I didn't know.  Goes all the way back to the 1800's:

  https://youtu.be/athqBSwOzBE?t=4055

[Spendulus]

Because Antifa is now designated a terrorist ORGANIZATION.

Designated by whom? By Trump? That's not how words work. Reinventing the terminology doesn't really solve anything.
Just like it would be meaningless to designate Bitcoin as a company in order to shut it down. Just by saying it doesn't change how it operates.

So what exactly do you want to argue? That's wrong?

You are catching up. It's not an organization.

I got it now, believe me. Asshats aiding and abetting the precisely synchronized, orchestrated waves of violence, who now may confront FBI agents asking about their actions as part of Antifa, can  now stand down the agents by arguing "Antifa is not an organization."

Sure am glad we all got that figured out!

Antifa is a movement, not an organization.  

You need to stop relying on the media and do some objective research of your own.  Try to prove yourself wrong - it won't be hard.

Why, you are exactly repeating what someone else said! What nice sock puppetry! But look at my post?

Asshats aiding and abetting the precisely synchronized, orchestrated waves of violence, who now may confront FBI agents asking about their actions as part of Antifa, can  now stand down the agents by arguing "Antifa is not an organization."

Don't you feel good, knowing that little white boy, proud Antifa in mom's basement can argue "Antifa is not an organization" to the not-Friendly FBI agents who have knocked on his door to discuss his terrorist operations with the Antifa Organization?

I gotta give you a hint how that's going to turn out. Those FBI agents are not going to be friendly.

[TwitchySeal]

I've already linked this, but I'll do it again and make it a bit easier.

Either way - you'll need to be willing to have your mind changed - and I can't do that for you.  Hopefully this will encourage you to consider being objective - and if it doesn't (which I expect), hopefully the lurkers will consider it.







It's lots of words.  Might take you more than a couple minutes to digest - it's worth it though.  Give it a read.


https://creatingthefuture.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Movement-or-Organization-chart-form-07-24-15.pdf

[TECSHARE]

I've already linked this, but I'll do it again and make it a bit easier.

Either way - you'll need to be willing to have your mind changed - and I can't do that for you.  Hopefully this will encourage you to consider being objective - and if it doesn't (which I expect), hopefully the lurkers will consider it.


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It's lots of words.  Might take you more than a couple minutes to digest - it's worth it though.  Give it a read.


https://creatingthefuture.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Movement-or-Organization-chart-form-07-24-15.pdf

Just like all leftist retards, if you don't like facts, simply redefine the words until the facts become irrelevant and you never have to take responsibility for anything! That is what post modernist relativism, critical theory, and Marxism are all about. You can literally organize mobs to murder, beat, burn and loot all you like and call yourself a movement, and suddenly it is ok!