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June 11, 2020, 06:12:11 AM
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Which contains zero proof of BLM money going to DNC and "money laundering". Next you're gonna claim that I'm stealing your money because we both use PayPal.

ActBlue is divided into 3 different components. The BLM website sends its money to ActBlue Charities, not ActBlue PAC.


You're showing the fine print for the entire ActBlue website, which includes language for donations made specifically to the PAC fund.

The funds from ActBlue Charities don't go into the PAC. The PAC funds come from donations made specifically to the ActBlue PAC fund (not the charity).

https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/actblue-charities/
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June 11, 2020, 08:35:43 AM
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Which contains zero proof of BLM money going to DNC and "money laundering". Next you're gonna claim that I'm stealing your money because we both use PayPal.

ActBlue is divided into 3 different components. The BLM website sends its money to ActBlue Charities, not ActBlue PAC.


You're showing the fine print for the entire ActBlue website, which includes language for donations made specifically to the PAC fund.

The funds from ActBlue Charities don't go into the PAC. The PAC funds come from donations made specifically to the ActBlue PAC fund (not the charity).

https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/actblue-charities/
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ActBlue Charities is ActBlue’s funding platform built specifically for 501(c)(3) organizations which can receive tax-deductible contributions.

Irrelevant. You show a fundamental ignorance of how these PACs work, and how they are exploited to allow for foreign influence of domestic elections.

https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?cycle=2020&strID=C00401224


"Foreign Dark Money Is Threatening American Democracy"

https://outline.com/fmFvBh


"The PAC Problem: How To Launder Money The Washington Way"

http://states.jsa.org/northeast/2012/01/30/the-pac-problem-how-to-launder-money-the-washington-way/


"Colbert Super PAC"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colbert_Super_PAC


"How The Supreme Court Just Legalized Money Laundering By Rich Campaign Donors"

https://archive.thinkprogress.org/how-the-supreme-court-just-legalized-money-laundering-by-rich-campaign-donors-8dc44ee06f49/


I suppose it only matters when Republicans do it?

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June 11, 2020, 09:06:57 AM
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Irrelevant. You show a fundamental ignorance of how these PACs work, and how they are exploited to allow for foreign influence of domestic elections.

https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?cycle=2020&strID=C00401224


"Foreign Dark Money Is Threatening American Democracy"

https://outline.com/fmFvBh


"The PAC Problem: How To Launder Money The Washington Way"

http://states.jsa.org/northeast/2012/01/30/the-pac-problem-how-to-launder-money-the-washington-way/


"Colbert Super PAC"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colbert_Super_PAC


"How The Supreme Court Just Legalized Money Laundering By Rich Campaign Donors"

https://archive.thinkprogress.org/how-the-supreme-court-just-legalized-money-laundering-by-rich-campaign-donors-8dc44ee06f49/


I suppose it only matters when Republicans do it?

Again, the ActBlue Charities money doesn't go to the ActBlue PAC. The two divisions have different sets of accounts. Again, you linked the OpenSecrets page for the ActBlue PAC which is a separate division of ActBlue that has nothing to do with the BLM donations. The BLM donations go to the BLM Foundation via ActBlue Charities. They do not go to the PAC. The two are separate divisions of the same organization.

https://secure.actblue.com/abcharities
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AB Charities' powerful tools make it easy for any organization to run an advanced, modern fundraising program online.

That's why we're trusted by nonprofits across the country.

If you're a 501(c)3 organization and you're interested in doing better online fundraising and reaching more grassroots donors, get in touch with us. We can get most groups set up and fundraising in a day or so.

https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.profile&ein=474143254
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Name in IRS Master File   BLACK LIVES MATTER FOUNDATION
Subsection   501(c)(3)

Here's where the BLM Foundation money goes to as of their latest publicly-available tax filing:

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Form 990, Part III , Line 4a:
- Provided food and clothing for various churches - Supported local programs for the homeless - Currently developing programs to support better community relations with the police - Filmed, Recorded, Produced, & Arranged a For Tribute video and song highlighting those un-jusltly slain by police to create better community awareness and support for our foundation

Charities aren't even allowed to donate to political campaigns if they want to retain their tax exempt status.

https://www.nonprofitexpert.com/nonprofit-questions-answers/can-nonprofits-be-involved-in-political-campaign-activity/
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For an organization to be tax-exempt under section 501(c)(3) it cannot “participate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distributing of statements) any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office.”

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June 11, 2020, 09:54:13 AM
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Irrelevant. You show a fundamental ignorance of how these PACs work, and how they are exploited to allow for foreign influence of domestic elections.

https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?cycle=2020&strID=C00401224


"Foreign Dark Money Is Threatening American Democracy"

https://outline.com/fmFvBh


"The PAC Problem: How To Launder Money The Washington Way"

http://states.jsa.org/northeast/2012/01/30/the-pac-problem-how-to-launder-money-the-washington-way/


"Colbert Super PAC"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colbert_Super_PAC


"How The Supreme Court Just Legalized Money Laundering By Rich Campaign Donors"

https://archive.thinkprogress.org/how-the-supreme-court-just-legalized-money-laundering-by-rich-campaign-donors-8dc44ee06f49/


I suppose it only matters when Republicans do it?

Again, the ActBlue Charities money doesn't go to the ActBlue PAC. The two divisions have different sets of accounts. Again, you linked the OpenSecrets page for the ActBlue PAC which is a separate division of ActBlue that has nothing to do with the BLM donations. The BLM donations go to the BLM Foundation via ActBlue Charities. They do not go to the PAC. The two are separate divisions of the same organization.

https://secure.actblue.com/abcharities
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AB Charities' powerful tools make it easy for any organization to run an advanced, modern fundraising program online.

That's why we're trusted by nonprofits across the country.

If you're a 501(c)3 organization and you're interested in doing better online fundraising and reaching more grassroots donors, get in touch with us. We can get most groups set up and fundraising in a day or so.

https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.profile&ein=474143254
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Name in IRS Master File   BLACK LIVES MATTER FOUNDATION
Subsection   501(c)(3)

Here's where the BLM Foundation money goes to as of their latest publicly-available tax filing:

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Form 990, Part III , Line 4a:
- Provided food and clothing for various churches - Supported local programs for the homeless - Currently developing programs to support better community relations with the police - Filmed, Recorded, Produced, & Arranged a For Tribute video and song highlighting those un-jusltly slain by police to create better community awareness and support for our foundation

Charities aren't even allowed to donate to political campaigns if they want to retain their tax exempt status.

https://www.nonprofitexpert.com/nonprofit-questions-answers/can-nonprofits-be-involved-in-political-campaign-activity/
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For an organization to be tax-exempt under section 501(c)(3) it cannot “participate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distributing of statements) any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office.”

Again, you are ignorant and need to learn to read instead of just automatically confirming your bias as you accuse me of doing. Illegal and impossible have two different meanings. If you bothered reading any of the articles I have posted you would see none of this is an impediment.
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June 11, 2020, 10:31:40 AM
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Again, you are ignorant and need to learn to read instead of just automatically confirming your bias as you accuse me of doing. Illegal and impossible have two different meanings. If you bothered reading any of the articles I have posted you would see none of this is an impediment.

Okay. What evidence do you have that ActBlue is illegally funneling money from their charity arm to their PAC?

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June 11, 2020, 04:05:36 PM
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Again, you are ignorant and need to learn to read instead of just automatically confirming your bias as you accuse me of doing. Illegal and impossible have two different meanings. If you bothered reading any of the articles I have posted you would see none of this is an impediment.

Okay. What evidence do you have that ActBlue is illegally funneling money from their charity arm to their PAC?

Learn. To. Read.
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Requests for evidence are such a pesky buzzkill for any good conspiracy theory.

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June 11, 2020, 04:36:09 PM
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Requests for evidence are such a pesky buzzkill for any good conspiracy theory.

I wouldn't call this one good. Doesn't involve Hillary or Obama.
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June 11, 2020, 04:38:59 PM
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Again, you are ignorant and need to learn to read instead of just automatically confirming your bias as you accuse me of doing. Illegal and impossible have two different meanings. If you bothered reading any of the articles I have posted you would see none of this is an impediment.

Okay. What evidence do you have that ActBlue is illegally funneling money from their charity arm to their PAC?

Well, 100% of donations to "BLM" through their link, "ActBlue", go to Rem candidates. That's what THEY say.

But Tecshare already handled this with the sparkly "need to learn to read" comment.

I have to admit I don't like that one bit. I'd be impressed, and probably contribute, if the donations went to actual live black prosecutions that were reasonably considered unfair.
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June 11, 2020, 05:11:49 PM
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Requests for evidence are such a pesky buzzkill for any good conspiracy theory.


Willful ignorance is the preferred form of autofellatio for LAARPing cult members.


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I'd be impressed, and probably contribute, if the donations went to actual live black prosecutions that were reasonably considered unfair.

LOL!  Cheesy

OK I didn't actually Laugh Out Loud, but I did smile.

I don't think this means what you intended it to, but its hard to gauge your level of seriousness based on the preceding sentences.
Lol yes you are right, let's substitute "defense of unfair, racist criminal charges" for prosecutions.

Or something similar.

Leaving the small people aside for the moment, let's look at some of the elitist, smug, smart people and how they are doing.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/victoria-taft/2020/06/13/its-going-down-antifa-uncle-sam-just-started-delivering-payback-for-terror-riots-n525503

It's Going Down, Antifa. Uncle Sam Just Started Delivering Payback for Terror Riots

From La Mesa, Calif., Minneapolis, Austin, and Dallas to Baton Rouge, Philly, St. Paul, and Tacoma, Wash., more than 50 people have been indicted on various charges.

Among the crimes being pursued are:

Crossing state lines for purposes of riot
Throwing Molotov cocktails
Torching cop cars
Looting gun stores and pharmacies
Online threats against cops
Arson
Shining lasers in eyes of police helicopter pilots
Bringing guns to a riot


Whatever your feelings pro and con this issue, how it plays out should be very interesting. I have a suspicion that these 50 people are just the beginning. And that many good things are yet to come.
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If there was ever stronger evidence that the UN is intent on subverting the rule of law in the USA, this is it.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/un-shares-antifa-flag-on-social-media-account-condemns-us-labeling-of-group_3395739.html

We should completely defund the UN.



"Black Lives Matter Co-Founder Says ‘Our Goal Is to Get Trump Out’"

https://www.theepochtimes.com/black-lives-matter-co-founder-says-our-goal-is-to-get-trump-out_3395820.html

...But BLM isn't a money laundering front for the Democrat party, and if you suggest otherwise you are a conspiracy theorist!
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"Black Lives Matter Co-Founder Says ‘Our Goal Is to Get Trump Out’"

https://www.theepochtimes.com/black-lives-matter-co-founder-says-our-goal-is-to-get-trump-out_3395820.html

...But BLM isn't a money laundering front for the Democrat party, and if you suggest otherwise you are a conspiracy theorist!

Let's repeat this again, as it seems to be a quite interesting issue.

The tax return of BLM shows ALL donations are to ACT BLUE, and thence to a small group of Democratic politicians and NO ONE ELSE.
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If there was ever stronger evidence that the UN is intent on subverting the rule of law in the USA, this is it.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/un-shares-antifa-flag-on-social-media-account-condemns-us-labeling-of-group_3395739.html

We should completely defund the UN.



"Black Lives Matter Co-Founder Says ‘Our Goal Is to Get Trump Out’"

https://www.theepochtimes.com/black-lives-matter-co-founder-says-our-goal-is-to-get-trump-out_3395820.html

...But BLM isn't a money laundering front for the Democrat party, and if you suggest otherwise you are a conspiracy theorist!

people that work hard are getting brainkilled by antifa, or by their dekadent elites.

un is biased and racist organisation it needs to get defunded

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Just so the lurkers know, Spendulus and TECSHARE are spreading a false story that most likely started as a facebook post by the co-founder of 'Students for Trump'.  

Actblue is a fundraising platform for both democratic campaigns and progressive organizations, similar to gofundme.  Donating money to a non-profit like BLM is not the same as donating to a political campaign.



"A debunked conspiracy theory about Black Lives Matter, ActBlue, and Democrats can be traced to far-right message boards"

https://www.mediamatters.org/fake-news/debunked-conspiracy-theory-about-black-lives-matter-actblue-and-democrats-can-be-traced

"Donations to Black Lives Matter Group Don’t Go to DNC"

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/06/donations-to-black-lives-matter-group-dont-go-to-dnc/

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If there was ever stronger evidence that the UN is intent on subverting the rule of law in the USA, this is it.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/un-shares-antifa-flag-on-social-media-account-condemns-us-labeling-of-group_3395739.html

We should completely defund the UN.



"Black Lives Matter Co-Founder Says ‘Our Goal Is to Get Trump Out’"

https://www.theepochtimes.com/black-lives-matter-co-founder-says-our-goal-is-to-get-trump-out_3395820.html

...But BLM isn't a money laundering front for the Democrat party, and if you suggest otherwise you are a conspiracy theorist!

When this is happening...

From La Mesa, Calif., Minneapolis, Austin, and Dallas to Baton Rouge, Philly, St. Paul, and Tacoma, Wash., more than 50 people have been indicted on various charges.

Among the crimes being pursued are:

Crossing state lines for purposes of riot
Throwing Molotov cocktails
Torching cop cars
Looting gun stores and pharmacies
Online threats against cops
Arson
Shining lasers in eyes of police helicopter pilots
Bringing guns to a riot


If the UN lines up with the criminals, that's deeper than stupid.

I have a thesis that the main international objection to Trump is loss of corruption and payoff monies flowing in massive amounts to different operations, a fair part in and through the UN. At those levels, nothing is political ideology and everything is money. Defunding the UN is largely a symbolic gesture compared to the reality of these money flows.

Of course, BLM and Antifa are fronts for international operatives that are intent on something that's not quite clear now, but somehow involves the disruption of the 2020 reelection of Trump.
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June 21, 2020, 08:29:52 PM
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Just so the lurkers know, Spendulus and TECSHARE are spreading a false story that most likely started as a facebook post by the co-founder of 'Students for Trump'.  

Actblue is a fundraising platform for both democratic campaigns and progressive organizations, similar to gofundme.  Donating money to a non-profit like BLM is not the same as donating to a political campaign.



"A debunked conspiracy theory about Black Lives Matter, ActBlue, and Democrats can be traced to far-right message boards"

https://www.mediamatters.org/fake-news/debunked-conspiracy-theory-about-black-lives-matter-actblue-and-democrats-can-be-traced

"Donations to Black Lives Matter Group Don’t Go to DNC"

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/06/donations-to-black-lives-matter-group-dont-go-to-dnc/


Not debunked, denied. Denial doesn't make facts evaporate. I included documentation explaining how it is done in detail here, which you promptly pretended never existed in order to avoid being forced to address it. Now the co-founder of BLM is openly saying their goal is to get Trump out. There is not even any veneer any more. BLM is openly an arm of the Democrat party.


You show a fundamental ignorance of how these PACs work, and how they are exploited to allow for foreign influence of domestic elections.

https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?cycle=2020&strID=C00401224


"Foreign Dark Money Is Threatening American Democracy"

https://outline.com/fmFvBh


"The PAC Problem: How To Launder Money The Washington Way"

http://states.jsa.org/northeast/2012/01/30/the-pac-problem-how-to-launder-money-the-washington-way/


"Colbert Super PAC"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colbert_Super_PAC


"How The Supreme Court Just Legalized Money Laundering By Rich Campaign Donors"

https://archive.thinkprogress.org/how-the-supreme-court-just-legalized-money-laundering-by-rich-campaign-donors-8dc44ee06f49/


I suppose it only matters when Republicans do it?


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June 21, 2020, 10:50:05 PM
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This was good news. It will weaken it as they won't easily be able to take in donations, and freely do other things. The members will probably shift into BLM though.
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This was good news. It will weaken it as they won't easily be able to take in donations, and freely do other things. The members will probably shift into BLM though.

Already happening. In typical Marxist SOP, they destroy the image of one organization and shift to the next. ANTIFA are already flying their flags less and less and simply shifting over to infiltrate BLM even more completely.
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This was good news. It will weaken it as they won't easily be able to take in donations, and freely do other things. The members will probably shift into BLM though.

Already happening. In typical Marxist SOP, they destroy the image of one organization and shift to the next. ANTIFA are already flying their flags less and less and simply shifting over to infiltrate BLM even more completely.
With Antifa designated Terrorists, of course they would move the next likely target. Kill it, then gut it, skin it, and wear the skin proclaiming to be the real thing.
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