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March 22, 2014, 02:58:06 PM
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23 Skidoo
 
A very odd SHA256-token indeed, if even to be called that. This is the only listing of its specifications, as provided by Malaclypse the Third only to be released upon you in this time:
 
23 total skidoo, ever. No 'pre' mine/special blocks, however the chain has already undergone its first offerings to Eris. The reward structure confirms to the Law of Fives and the 17 and 23 Enigmata and is as so:
 
If the block height is divisible by 2, the offering is rewarded with .00000001 Skidoo
If its not divisible by 2, but it is by 3, the offering is rewarded with .0000001 Skidoo
If its not divisible by 2 or 3 but ends in a 5, the offering is rewarded with .000001 Skidoo
If it doesn't conform to the Law of Fives, but is divisible by 17 or 23, the offering is .00001 Skidoo
All other blocks don't pay, yea that's right, 0. It will take nearly 400K of blocks to have 1 whole Skidoo
 
1/1000th of a Skidoo is a Chao, and this is the default method of divding Skidoo. Default RPC Port is 10023. The Discordian Gravity Well was directly ripped off from Kimoto and as such, the difficulty is self-regulating. Blocks take 23 confirmations to be valid and to be infuriating, there is a 5000 milliChao limit to how much you can send at once. Oh and plus a silly fee structure that could cost you as much as you'd like to send in fees payable to the Discordian network of Skidoo pushers.
 
Source, Binaries, and Decoder Ring can be found at 23skidoo.info. Skidoo is numbers/math/electricity based worship of Chaos and the Goddess Eris and can be used by Discordians (including the ODD, LDD, EDD, first and second order or of any degree) or the Syndicate in place of hempscript of flaxscript for transactions amongst themselves. Should thou choose to value Skidoo, thou taketh it upon thineself.
 
Ewige Blumenkraft!
 
 
Website
http://23skidoo.info/
 
Block Explorer / Crawler
http://23skidoo.info/decoderring/block_crawler.php
 
Contact
Consult your Pineal Gland.
 
SPECIFICATIONS
SHA256D Algo
2 minute 20 seconds block targets
Proof of Work
23 total coins
KimotoGravityWell
 
DOWNLOADS
 
Windows
http://www.23skidoo.info/skidoo-qt.zip
 
Source Code
http://www.23skidoo..../skidoo-src.zip
 
Sample skidoo.conf
rpcuser=username
rpcpassword=password
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcport=10023
port=10005
gen=0
server=1
addnode=
PORTS
RPC Port:  10023
P2P Port:  10005
 
ANN THREAD:  https://cryptocointa...-do-you-skidoo/
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March 22, 2014, 03:11:25 PM
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Source Code
http://www.23skidoo.info/skidoo-src.zip

ANN THREAD:
https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/8154-23-skidoo-chao-information/
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22k bocks found, diff 1.5k. Does anyone know how many coins have being mined as of now? I mean with random payouts is it even possible to determine somehow?   Thanks
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DEV, you still around?
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December 04, 2014, 04:06:51 AM
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I've taken an interest in this coin. I like coins started by Blazr2. If you have a quantity, let me know and lets talk about how I can get them from you.

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December 25, 2014, 03:57:48 AM
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CHAO now has a NOMP pool.  http://wmikrut.com/getting_started

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https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=CHAO_BTC
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April 19, 2015, 01:53:02 AM
Last edit: April 27, 2015, 12:20:11 AM by FallingKnife
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Great to see CHAO on Cryptopia!

Celebrate by listening to this interview with 23Skidoo founder Blazr2.

https://soundcloud.com/worldcryptonet/transmission-ep2-interview-w-blazr-unobtainum-offerings-23skidoo-quark

The talk about Chao starts about 35:30

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July 26, 2015, 08:28:53 PM
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Skidoo has been upgraded to 0.9.3:

https://i.imgur.com/lDgvxj3.png

This is a pre-core build, download links are the same as the OP. Core version coming in a few weeks time, (0.11.x) based--the custom Qt bits take extra time in the later code base.
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October 11, 2015, 09:56:24 AM
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Skidoo has been upgraded to 0.9.3:



This is a pre-core build, download links are the same as the OP. Core version coming in a few weeks time, (0.11.x) based--the custom Qt bits take extra time in the later code base.

dev is greek?
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Hi 23Skidoo team,  i was getting specs for each coin.

1. confirms received?
2. confirms reward?
3. average reward?
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November 27, 2015, 11:59:00 PM
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Where can I get wallet ?
thanks J.
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February 17, 2016, 04:01:48 AM
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Yes a working wallet would be great Smiley
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February 21, 2016, 04:37:31 PM
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The last available wallet doesn't seem to work for me either. When I try to launch the client, I'm stopped by this prompt that says:
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The procedure entry point _ZSt24__throw_out_of_range_fmtPKcz could not be located in the dynamic link library Skidoo-0.9.4.exe

Prior to that I had to install a couple of dlls (or rather, placed them in the same folder as the .exe file), though the names of the dlls elude me now, and I'm not on my desktop at the moment.

...do I have to consult my pineal gland or something Huh
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February 23, 2016, 04:08:40 PM
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please guys can you upload the windows wallet somewhere, mega or dropbox ? i cant find it anywhere!
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March 07, 2016, 01:51:49 AM
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Is there a working windows wallet for this coin?

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Is there a working windows wallet for this coin?


dont think so. download link is dead also.

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June 02, 2016, 12:28:26 AM
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CHAO is still very much alive.

Traded at Cryptopia.co.nz
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange/?market=CHAO_BTC
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange/?market=CHAO_DOGE
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange/?market=CHAO_LTC
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange/?market=CHAO_UNO
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange/?market=CHAO_DOT
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange/?market=CHAO_ETH

Windows Wallet (0.9.1)

https://mega.nz/#!WEdxQbpK!AJbTi6vJGVL_M32ntxeyL6sE4GH8H9saR6xHygiQzq4

Mine it at
stratum+tcp://wmikrut.com:4022
stratum+tcp://pools2.cryptopia.co.nz:5099

Explorer
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/BlockExplorer?coin=CHAO

Nodes
addnode=192.99.37.133:10005
addnode=104.255.67.131:10005
addnode=45.33.104.27:10005
addnode=31.185.150.145:10005






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June 05, 2016, 11:47:33 AM
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downloaded and added nodes says no block source available

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Cryptopia pools are down....All of them, Except DOT.
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July 21, 2016, 10:40:30 AM
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Waiting for a block explorer
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July 21, 2016, 11:13:02 AM
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A total of 23 coins, this is a very rare coin and I think the difficulty is pretty high as of now,
can somebody just show me the difficulty here,
 I would lo mine but I think I will get barely nothing from it.
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July 27, 2016, 10:05:46 PM
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diff is at the moment 162745.99450702

if anybody wants to mine at a private pool stratum+tcp://84.104.76.41:3144
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August 12, 2016, 07:33:37 AM
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NEW POOL!!!!!!
Come Join Us,

http://45.63.18.161/index.php

stratum+tcp://45.63.18.161:4022
USER: Wallet Address
PASS: Anything


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We added your cryptocurrency.
With respect, the development team of Crypto-trade.
Crypto-Trade – Official Announcement https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1604225.0
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September 16, 2016, 09:31:18 PM
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downloaded and added nodes says no block source available


I just downloaded the wallet from the link in Post. Wallet opened without entry point error but would not sync until I added the nodes directly into the Client. Open the Client/Wallet, & click on the arrow to the right of "List of Numbers", then click "Text Box" and enter the nodes as follows:

addnode 192.99.37.133:10005 add (then click your pc's "enter" button) - continue adding the nodes using that format & it will begin to sync right away!


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September 18, 2016, 10:36:19 PM
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Waiting for a block explorer

I don't think we will ever see a true Block Explorer for this Coin, & I believe it was meant to be that way (that adds to the "mysterious" nature of this Coin). Someone please correct me if I'm wrong though..


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anybody have the working wallet which syncs with the blockchain? i need the new version of this wallet, thanks
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September 25, 2016, 08:34:09 AM
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anybody have the working wallet which syncs with the blockchain? i need the new version of this wallet, thanks

Look about 2 Post above yours to find the new wallet, & instructions on how to add the proper Nodes for syncing the wallet!  Wink


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September 26, 2016, 07:52:19 PM
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I have been a fan of this Coin & was mining it via the only working pool I know of until last night sometime. I woke up this morning to find the wmikrut.com pool was dead, tried the only other pool listed in this Thread & it is dead as well. I truly hope this is just a temporary problem or this Coin may be in trouble..

0: Enabled Dead Quota 1 Prio 0: stratum+tcp://wmikrut.com:4022

EDIT: 23skidoo.info website is down as well..


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how to fix skidoo 0.9.4 client so it will compile in Ubuntu 16.04 64 bit
Associated 0.9.4 client:  
https://github.com/thegreatoldone/skidoo

Link for fix:  
https://github.com/bitquarkcoin/BitQuark-0.8.3r20/commit/6564a1252bc7ccaa5c1c1b67ccb1771c078279be

Path to file that needs to be fixed:  ~/skidoo/src/rpcrawtransaction.cpp

line 240 of this file needs to be fixed:
    Incorrent Line 240:  const CScriptID& hash = boost::get<const CScriptID&>(address);
    Corrected Line 240:  const CScriptID& hash = boost::get<CScriptID>(address);
Be sure you have done:  sudo apt-get install gcc-multi*
and all other typical libraries needed for most cryptocurrencies based on bitcoin, then do your standard:  
 
make -f makefile.unix
 
and all is well. Happy mining and long live the ultra oddity that is 23skidoo. Check your pineal gland for updates.


Note:  This build problem actually started with bitcoin, but has been seen across all bitcoin based cryptocurrencies.

Someone needs to build a block explorer. If this coin falls out of the limelight, it will eventually disappear and become worthless because no one will know about it regardless of what "value" the folks at coinmarket say it's worth. If no one will trade or accept it as payment, it is worthless.

It might be possible to build a block explorer from something like this:
https://github.com/iquidus/explorer

but I don't have webspace or funds for one.

These other 2 links for chao clients are older which is why I cited the one I did in the beginning of this post.
https://github.com/EwigeBlumenkraft/skidoo
https://github.com/noise23/skidoo

I also realize that the fix link shows line 245, but the actual line in the skidoo file is 240


You can get the windows-qt client at the way back machine link, just click skidoo at the top
https://web.archive.org/web/20150819060353/http://23skidoo.info/transferraldevice/
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December 06, 2016, 12:10:11 AM
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The only working mining pool that I knew of for this coin has been dead for two days now. Not sure why either because there were always at least 8-10 people mining with a steady hashrate of around 3TH/s.

If anyone gets a pool going (or knows of an existing pool), please let me know and I will send some steady hash its way!


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Is this what they call a coin take over?

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Is this what they call a coin take over?

Can you please elaborate?


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downloaded and added nodes says no block source available


I just downloaded the wallet from the link in Post. Wallet opened without entry point error but would not sync until I added the nodes directly into the Client. Open the Client/Wallet, & click on the arrow to the right of "List of Numbers", then click "Text Box" and enter the nodes as follows:

addnode 192.99.37.133:10005 add (then click your pc's "enter" button) - continue adding the nodes using that format & it will begin to sync right away!

Hi all,
I downloaded that version and got the same out of sinc issue. Now I am hashing away on the pool no prob. but I see they are using version 0.9.2 and i cant find that anywhere. this version we all are downloading is wacky. I tried to add the nodes and keep getting the following:


15:47:14

Method not found (code -32601)

not sure what that means, will my payments still go there? and if not where can i have my payments sent? i need a wallet that works.
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Hi all,
I downloaded that version and got the same out of sinc issue. Now I am hashing away on the pool no prob. but I see they are using version 0.9.2 and i cant find that anywhere. this version we all are downloading is wacky. I tried to add the nodes and keep getting the following:


15:47:14

Method not found (code -32601)

not sure what that means, will my payments still go there? and if not where can i have my payments sent? i need a wallet that works.
Have a great day all Smiley
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Personally, I would just use a Cryptopia generated wallet to mine this coin - you will avoid paying transaction fees for sending coins from personal wallet to exchange, & alleviate your need to get a windows wallet syncing/working. I can confirm that mining CHAO on wmikrut.com using your Cryptopia generated address does work flawlessly, although you can NOT do that on most p2p pools & would therefore keep a close eye on it at the beginning to be certain it is working for you!

Be careful with downloading files from sources that aren't trustworthy (not suggesting that any member(s) here are or are not trustworthy - just advising to use caution). I am away from home right now, but I will do what I can to help from my current position. Have you tried downloading the newest version from GitHub? (current version being used by Cryptopia is: v90400) - GitHub link for Skidoo-qt.exe v0.9.4: https://github.com/thegreatoldone/Windows-Clients/tree/master/Skidoo-0.9.4 (I have NOT tested that version yet).

Here is a link to a previous version of the working windows wallet (see attached pic below to view a screenshot of me with the wallet open & syncing from my sister's computer just now): https://mega.nz/#!WEdxQbpK!AJbTi6vJGVL_M32ntxeyL6sE4GH8H9saR6xHygiQzq4

Here is a list of all nodes seen in the last 24 hours (copy/paste them one-by-one EXACTLY as I have them below into the wallets console & it will begin syncing as seen in screenshot below) You can always download the bootstrap on wmikruts pool here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_HANVbqy0JldXdzTzFZMG5ENms/view?usp=sharing and/or get the latest nodes by clicking on the "connections" button found in Cryptopia's Coin Info section https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/CoinInfo/?coin=CHAO:

addnode 107.170.233.137:10005 add
addnode 104.255.67.131:10005 add
addnode 45.33.104.27:10005 add
addnode 107.134.126.6:10005 add
addnode 192.241.154.207:10005 add

I believe the "Method Not Found" error you experienced was caused by missing .dll files, which you can search for with Google, download, and then put them in the same folder as your Skidoo Wallet is in. Will be able to help more after the New Year when I am back home - hope that gets you by in the meantime!  Wink

Notice the time and date in screenshot:



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Hi all,
I downloaded that version and got the same out of sinc issue. Now I am hashing away on the pool no prob. but I see they are using version 0.9.2 and i cant find that anywhere. this version we all are downloading is wacky. I tried to add the nodes and keep getting the following:


15:47:14

Method not found (code -32601)

not sure what that means, will my payments still go there? and if not where can i have my payments sent? i need a wallet that works.
Have a great day all Smiley
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Personally, I would just use a Cryptopia generated wallet to mine this coin - you will avoid paying transaction fees for sending coins from personal wallet to exchange, & alleviate your need to get a windows wallet syncing/working. I can confirm that mining CHAO on wmikrut.com using your Cryptopia generated address does work flawlessly, although you can NOT do that on most p2p pools & would therefore keep a close eye on it at the beginning to be certain it is working for you!

Be careful with downloading files from sources that aren't trustworthy (not suggesting that any member(s) here are or are not trustworthy - just advising to use caution). I am away from home right now, but I will do what I can to help from my current position. Have you tried downloading the newest version from GitHub? (current version being used by Cryptopia is: v90400) - GitHub link for Skidoo-qt.exe v0.9.4: https://github.com/thegreatoldone/Windows-Clients/tree/master/Skidoo-0.9.4 (I have NOT tested that version yet).

Here is a link to a previous version of the working windows wallet (see attached pic below to view a screenshot of me with the wallet open & syncing from my sister's computer just now): https://mega.nz/#!WEdxQbpK!AJbTi6vJGVL_M32ntxeyL6sE4GH8H9saR6xHygiQzq4

Here is a list of all nodes seen in the last 24 hours (copy/paste them one-by-one EXACTLY as I have them below into the wallets console & it will begin syncing as seen in screenshot below) You can always download the bootstrap on wmikruts pool here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_HANVbqy0JldXdzTzFZMG5ENms/view?usp=sharing and/or get the latest nodes by clicking on the "connections" button found in Cryptopia's Coin Info section https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/CoinInfo/?coin=CHAO:

addnode 107.170.233.137:10005 add
addnode 104.255.67.131:10005 add
addnode 45.33.104.27:10005 add
addnode 107.134.126.6:10005 add
addnode 192.241.154.207:10005 add

I believe the "Method Not Found" error you experienced was caused by missing .dll files, which you can search for with Google, download, and then put them in the same folder as your Skidoo Wallet is in. Will be able to help more after the New Year when I am back home - hope that gets you by in the meantime!  Wink

Notice the time and date in screenshot:



To view larger image: http://imgur.com/a/IpPPx

Thank you Rockmoney...
that did it, i had the syntax wrong. now it is in sync mode and should be caught up in a few hours.
I was going to use the generated wallet on that site but i saw they recommended not using their wallet as a direct payment wallet from other pool.
I did a test run and now have to wait to see the payments. I plugged my antminer s5 into the pool and hash away happily.

One thing I wish the owner of wmikrut would implement on his pools? The ability to see exactly when a payment is sent out and how many per day or hour. I mean the min pymt is set low but never really know till all of a sudden the balance is back at zero.

good site though, i like seeing all the other coins. makes me want to try them out and see what i can do. Smiley
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Thank you Rockmoney...
that did it, i had the syntax wrong. now it is in sync mode and should be caught up in a few hours.
I was going to use the generated wallet on that site but i saw they recommended not using their wallet as a direct payment wallet from other pool.
I did a test run and now have to wait to see the payments. I plugged my antminer s5 into the pool and hash away happily.

One thing I wish the owner of wmikrut would implement on his pools? The ability to see exactly when a payment is sent out and how many per day or hour. I mean the min pymt is set low but never really know till all of a sudden the balance is back at zero.

good site though, i like seeing all the other coins. makes me want to try them out and see what i can do. Smiley
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For 23Skidoo [CHAO] on wmikrut's pool, you will be paid out automatically when you have mined 0.00000250 CHAO & your balance will turn green as seen in screenshot below - once green it won't be long before you receive payment. I used to mine CHAO 24/7 on wmikrut pool & only ever used my Cryptopia generated wallet address without any problems whatsoever (as I mentioned previously, this will also eliminate having to pay transaction fees for transferring the coin from your private wallet to exchange).

I would recommend using your Cryptopia wallet address, wait for your first payout, & just check to make sure you received it with no problems to ensure it works. Also, the pool is actually a UNOMP pool (Unified Node Open Mining Portal), & that is why you can generally use an exchange address without any problems. It's the p2p pools that won't work with with exchange addresses, but ultimately the decision is yours.

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good idea good luck dev
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I'm a linux person, so please pardon the outdated link at the wayback machine link for the windows client. When I first started researching this coin I scoured the internet for any info since the original site had disappeared. I can't seem to find any recent info on Blazr2 either. He, she or they seem to have disappeared, or maybe just changed handles?

Forgot to mention something else for the boost related code fix I found. If you go to build (make -f makefile.unix) and it says it can't find a directory, just manually create it where it was looking for it and run the make command again. I highly recommend everyone ditch anything related to Apple or Microsoft when it comes to this client till a proper update can be forked if Blazr2 has vanished from existence. Still searching... Still waiting... reading debug logs keeps me busy for now for what little time I have available.

Last recommendations for Ubuntu build:  NEVER use root or sudo. Everything can be built from user and always use a different password for your user and root accounts. Also never allow root SSH access. DDWRT and Tomato make awesome substitutions for converting your high powered gaming class wifi router into a legit firewall if you can't afford time and money into something like a Cisco RV325 Dual Gigabit WAN VPN router or Cisco ASA.

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/routers/rv325-dual-gigabit-wan-vpn-router/index.html

You can also get some older model Checkpoint Firewalls and flash them with DDWRT.

Learn to use linux CLI and IP tables (and purge that Ubuntu UFW garbage). Using a DDWRT powered router and a linux workstation will free your mind, reduce your costs and secure your wallet as long as you don't lose your keys and make backups for offsite storage such as a safety deposit box. Encrypt everything per Moxie Marlinspike's advice.
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Oh I remember when this coin first launched. I mined some but no where near 1 coin. What are these things worth now? Do we have an exchange for 23Skidoo?
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Hi,

We've added CHAO to the miners multipool: www.zpool.ca

Explorer:

http://www.zpool.ca/explorer/CHAO

Peers:

http://www.zpool.ca/explorer/peers?id=1209

SHA256 Pool:

http://www.zpool.ca/site/gomining?algo=sha256

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Only 23 coins. I am joining the mining party.
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The website for this coin was working up to a few months ago - now you land on godaddy's park page. Oddly enough, even when it was working, it would come up as a blank page 75% of the time. I have always wondered if the lack of information, dev presence, block explorer, etc., for this coin was perhaps designed to be that way? Just hope that the coin survives & people don't lose interest as a result.

IF the dev IS still out there somewhere, but intentionally "hiding" (or leaving a big mystery for all of us to solve), I'd hope they would have enough sense to give us some sort of sign and/or get the webpage back up before it's too late!

I also find it a bit odd that the very last post made by gxsbk was the OP for THIS Thread. If you follow the ANN link they left in the OP (https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/7788-do-you-skidoo/) cryptocointalks website will open & say "Sorry, we couldn't find that!". But then here is the ANN (https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/8154-23-skidoo-chao-information/) posted on cryptocointalk on 15 March 2014 - 06:39 PM by "Jimmy Cryptoforumologist" who is an ADMIN with the highest ranking level possible..

For those who may not be familiar with the phrase/term "23 Skidoo", check it out on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_skidoo_(phrase) or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_enigma

I strongly encourage anyone else to do some research & see what you come up with! Maybe this is some sort of intentional "enigma" that needs to be pieced together somehow? Either way, some definitive answers might just spark my interest enough to start mining this coin again..


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The website for this coin was working up to a few months ago - now you land on godaddy's park page. I have always wondered if the lack of information, dev presence, block explorer, etc., for this coin was perhaps designed to be that way? Just hope that the coin survives & people don't lose interest as a result.

IF the dev IS still out there somewhere, but intentionally "hiding" (or leaving a big mystery for all of us to solve), I'd hope they would have enough sense to give us some sort of sign and/or get the webpage back up before it's too late!

For those who may not be familiar with the phrase/term "23 Skidoo", check it out on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_skidoo_(phrase)
still holds the highest price at altcoin. I hope also, the dev can give life to this coin, because I saw a very rare and has a great future
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The website for this coin was working up to a few months ago - now you land on godaddy's park page. I have always wondered if the lack of information, dev presence, block explorer, etc., for this coin was perhaps designed to be that way? Just hope that the coin survives & people don't lose interest as a result.

IF the dev IS still out there somewhere, but intentionally "hiding" (or leaving a big mystery for all of us to solve), I'd hope they would have enough sense to give us some sort of sign and/or get the webpage back up before it's too late!

For those who may not be familiar with the phrase/term "23 Skidoo", check it out on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_skidoo_(phrase)
still holds the highest price at altcoin. I hope also, the dev can give life to this coin, because I saw a very rare and has a great future


Strangely enough, I was editing my post that you quoted while doing some research when you made your post - as you can see my original post in your quote before I finished editing. Now I am freaking out a bit because what are the chances of that happening with a coin that has such a small following like this & a 4-page Thread that was started on March 22, 2014???   Shocked


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Not sure how I missed this post, but GREAT news nonetheless! I have used zpool many times off and on to mine coins I am unable to mine with my sha256 mining gear, so I am familiar with the process. Just a couple of questions for you before I try it out..

1.) If we want to receive CHAO as payment for mining on your pool, we just need to our CHAO address & c=CHAO as our password?

2.) Is it safe to use a Cryptopia Exchange generated wallet address, or do we need to use our official client wallet address?



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From what I've been able to find, Blazr2 created unobtanium and 23skidoo amongst other crypto innovations/curiosities. Does anyone know if this dev is alive? or free? or in prison? but hopefully just changed handles for security reasons.
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Not sure how I missed this post, but GREAT news nonetheless! I have used zpool many times off and on to mine coins I am unable to mine with my sha256 mining gear, so I am familiar with the process. Just a couple of questions for you before I try it out..

1.) If we want to receive CHAO as payment for mining on your pool, we just need to our CHAO address & c=CHAO as our password?

2.) Is it safe to use a Cryptopia Exchange generated wallet address, or do we need to use our official client wallet address?



If anyone needs to add some new nodes, here they are:

addnode=104.255.67.131:10005
addnode=107.134.126.6:10005
addnode=107.170.233.137:10005
addnode=45.33.104.27:10005

Yes, you'd use c=CHAO as your password along with a valid CHAO address as your username.

Yes, we send coins using sendmany commands so it's an actual transaction which Cryptopia will see, not like P2P transactions.

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dev you add poloniex ?
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This coin totally confuse me!!! But have so high price in this moment
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Not sure what problems Brazilman37 was having with wmikrut but I've never had any problems with wmikrut other than it being offline sometimes. Keep in mind they have Comcast, which sucks since their business model is to gobble up smaller cable/internet companies instead of upgrading infrastructure. zpool has so many miners and due to the small payout for 23 Skidoo, I don't see how anyone would ever get a payout on the zpool, but it's nice the coin is supported in different places. I've seen many miners jump in wmikrut.com with massive hashing power, jack up the difficulty, then exit stage left when they realize how long it would take to get 1 coin. Then the difficulty drops back to 30 to 60 k range.

This coin does have a unique payout method on the 23 Enigma or the Law of Fives.

Another thing I've noticed about this coin is that high hash power does nothing but drive the difficulty up making the coin pointless to mine, but if you use your older smaller rigs, the difficulty doesn't jack up as much, and true... you may be spending more on power at the electric company, but it depends on what you want to get out of mining this coin. Hanging out for longer periods of time keeps this network alive and scares away large hashing farms that have to meet certain cost vs expense numbers which in turn makes this coin great for a small cheap home miner. The time I've spent dealing with this coin has been more of a study. I found some broken code and posted the fix on page 2 of this thread for compiling in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS in case anyone was wondering. Still no word from the original dev:  Blazr2, who also created Unobtanium. I'd like to fork this project with the corrected code, but if there is someone with better coding skills out there, (...I can debug stuff, but implementing improvements and changes is a bit beyond me), so please step up and take it, I don't know if Blazr2 ever plans to return to this coin or unobtanium. Hope everyone has a great weekend.
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sourcecode plz? ( can anyone upload that zipfile from the original website? )
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From what I've been able to find, Blazr2 created unobtanium and 23skidoo amongst other crypto innovations/curiosities. Does anyone know if this dev is alive? or free? or in prison? but hopefully just changed handles for security reasons.

Blazr2 told me me he lost his account on bitcointalk after one of the hacks here. He wasn't able to reset his password. He resurfaced as HagbardCeline, and proved he had access to some Uno keys.
After launching Prototanium, he hasn't been heard from.

Tokens he launched:

23Skidoo
Offerings to Cthulu
Unobtanium
PandaCoin (a coin for hire by Wolong)
Flaxscript
Prototanium

I'm sure I'm missing some.  
My hope is that someday soon he'll show up again.

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Maybe he will show up again someday. I may go ahead and fork it with the corrected code I posted on page 2 just to keep something updated and ready to go on github in what looks to be a growing (or perhaps a returning) community. Haven't decided yet. Just holding out for Blazr2's return still. Don't want to step on anyone's toes.

Thanks for the update FallingKnife.
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where exchanger can trade skidoo coin
total suply coin is very low, only 23 coin, so if added to exchanger, how much price skidoo coin


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where exchanger can trade skidoo coin
total suply coin is very low, only 23 coin, so if added to exchanger, how much price skidoo coin

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=CHAO_BTC

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there's suddenly over 1 BTC daily trading volume since the beginning of the year for this coin.  what's going on?
maybe somebody put a bot on it.

i saw this coin long time ago cause it looked strange and the coin symbol CHAO looked chinese, but disregarded it as some weird coin.

so what does 23 skidoo's have to do with CHAO?

and is there anyways to fix the circulating supply on coinmarketcap?

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/23-skidoo/#charts

this Blazr2 sounds interesting, hope he comes back.
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Sorry , Visit to block explorer web site, but it show another page, Can you fix it?
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chaos...
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23skidoo.info is down but it was just a redirect to http://thegreatoldone.github.io

only thing missing is block explorer....

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23skidoo.info is down but it was just a redirect to http://thegreatoldone.github.io

only thing missing is block explorer....

explorer is available on zpool.ca

what about skidood getinfo? this is my output

23skidoo
error: {"code":-32601,"message":"Method not found"}

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Sorry , Visit to block explorer web site, but it show another page, Can you fix it?

Make sure you are using the right link to block explorer

http://www.zpool.ca/explorer/CHAO

The link in coinmarketcap is the old link.

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23skidoo.info is down but it was just a redirect to http://thegreatoldone.github.io

only thing missing is block explorer....

explorer is available on zpool.ca

what about skidood getinfo? this is my output

23skidoo
error: {"code":-32601,"message":"Method not found"}

try: skidood seethefnords

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Oh I remember when this coin first launched. I mined some but no where near 1 coin. What are these things worth now? Do we have an exchange for 23Skidoo?

yes why not you can be at any time....
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23 total skidoo, ever.

Total 23 coins and the price is only 4 BTC. I think this coin needs a higher price, what would be more attractive.
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http://skidoo.duckdns.org:3001/

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So coinmarketcap reports that there is only .25 skidoo in existence.
The OP said, "It will take nearly 400K of blocks to have 1 whole Skidoo" but we're well past block 700k.

We should have nearly 2 skidoo out there by now, no?

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So coinmarketcap reports that there is only .25 skidoo in existence.
The OP said, "It will take nearly 400K of blocks to have 1 whole Skidoo" but we're well past block 700k.

We should have nearly 2 skidoo out there by now, no?


I read that somewhere too but I also remember Dev (Hagbard Celine)said it would take upwards of 2 million blocks before 1 full skidoo would be mined because of the reward structure.


I setup the Explorer to calculate coin supply based on total balances of all accounts.

This guy did the math not Dev:
https://cryptocurrencytalk.com/topic/8154-23-skidoo-chao-information/#comment-75098

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Old wallets always get blocked 

https://virustotal.com/en/file/01490c5c3978dfeeaa5ab34a7e1e4068f4b4962dadc99ba9f291f0b08e4eb0a0/analysis/

Looks okay though?
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I haven't had any problems. Nothing stolen from here.

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I haven't had any problems. Nothing stolen from here.

Couldn't get that wallet to work anyway but found

https://mega.nz/#!WEdxQbpK!AJbTi6vJGVL_M32ntxeyL6sE4GH8H9saR6xHygiQzq4

which is newer and cleaner

https://virustotal.com/en/file/65c36e301b70350ea2d41f23dd120818f5d221e26a8a1e0781c6004323e6a4ce/analysis/1496725203/

 Huh
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First submission 2017-06-06 05:00:03 UTC ( 11 minutes ago )
Last submission 2017-06-06 05:00:03 UTC ( 11 minutes ago )
File names    23skidoo-qt-win.zip
Huh

Assuming just nobody has tested the Windows wallet this coin looks very cool. It has to be by the same person who made BOBcoin.

Downloaded the first file from http://www.23skidoo.co/index.php/alt/downloads and changed the file extension from .wav to .exe and now my computer is starting to glow.
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how much total suply
how much premine, any bounty dev ?
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how much total suply
how much premine, any bounty dev ?

The explorer link shows there is 0.25 coins that exist..... 0.25334386

The first block had 0 and the second block had 0.00000001 or one chaotoshi, third block 10 chaotoshis.

Oldest thread seems to be https://cryptocurrencytalk.com/topic/8154-23-skidoo-chao-information/ March 15 2014.

First block was Feb 27, 2014 so the dev did pillage a bit. http://skidoo.duckdns.org:3001/block/00000cb104660a3e21938645b0a164bd17a5e4548bf4bc46c6f35f5260b7c53f

Volume today was $1180 but market cap is $7,500 so somebody has a bot churning
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Close to a btc volume in the last 24 hours. I contributed a little  Cheesy Some useful trivia... Why "chao"? Because if you have more than one there are/is chaos
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CHAO is a unique coin. Born from the love of a new technology.
Everyone was talking about "coins" and "data storage," and Blazr2 said, "maybe this can be fun, or even art."

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CHAO is a unique coin. Born from the love of a new technology.
Everyone was talking about "coins" and "data storage," and Blazr2 said, "maybe this can be fun, or even art."

A person has to download the wallet to fully understand that whoever made this coin was a real crypto person. Maybe the coolest wallet so far.
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June 07, 2017, 04:35:37 PM
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If you look at the other specimen of the "ultra low issue" tokens, 23 Skidoo is the only one that's truly viable in its original conception.

21 coin, dead
42 coin, a premined scam that exceeded its promised 42 coin limit, and had to be fixed by a different dev and exchanged.
66 coin, crashed & burned, revived briefly, now dead.
88 coin,  I lost track of it. Likely dead.

23 Skidoo... alive, traded and healthy after 3+ years.  Only .25 chao has even been mined.  99% of the mining is still ahead.

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June 07, 2017, 04:42:37 PM
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amazing,Keep up the good job.
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June 07, 2017, 08:21:13 PM
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Earlier thread https://cryptocurrencytalk.com/topic/8154-23-skidoo-chao-information/

Explorers

http://skidoo.duckdns.org:3001/

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/chao/

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Best wallet seems to be https://mega.nz/#!WEdxQbpK!AJbTi6vJGVL_M32ntxeyL6sE4GH8H9saR6xHygiQzq4

https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/65c36e301b70350ea2d41f23dd120818f5d221e26a8a1e0781c6004323e6a4ce/analysis/1497059575/

The date of the first thread roughly coincides with block 10k, at which time there was a coin supply of 0.00354369 CHAO but it seems likely a few people were mining at the start and a lot of early wallets still sit with 0.0000001 or so, but worst case call the premine 0.0036. Market cap right now is $5757 and I got enough to give the premine amount as bounties if somebody has an idea  Grin

Wallet needs to be updated so it doesn't smoke on virustotal but that would cost more than I'm ready to offer at the moment
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June 11, 2017, 07:51:35 PM
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Gentlemen, ladies, lovers of conversation, makers of hay, I have been working to update Skidoo with CORE level code:

Windows GUI with build in progress:
https://i.imgur.com/aEd9zEB.png

Mac GUI Close Up:
https://i.imgur.com/XtqMDwD.png

As a taste test, I offer you all the Windows command line versions:

Download (Windows 32/64bit, Compiled on Windows 10): https://mega.nz/#!87QSGJxb!JgVIGih_ZXJSa_o2nQZVRUQVRGKENCbCLXBCJzSqdyY
MD5: 163d92044d437dfcb0c8f9b07be3be7a
VirusTotal: https://virustotal.com/en/file/ab67ac90046b7b762cc02e8cd114692c155e4d31249205dcf3743b4710b3a21a/analysis/1497209937/

PeterTheGrape, would this qualify for the .0036xxx bounty you offer? Cheesy If so, and if you'll all have me, I'd like to accept interim dev duties. I will post a Github version of the updated code and Windows/Mac GUI builds. This build includes some updated seed nodes as well, but I would also consider registering a domain and building a more permanent network of them should you spread CHAOS upon me.

My CHAO address: zU92b7Evox74fWvxcz9GZCSep9TnfPhDEG Of course I would accept any tokens of appreciation.

HAIL ERIS!
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June 11, 2017, 09:11:01 PM
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Gentlemen, ladies, lovers of conversation, makers of hay, I have been working to update Skidoo with CORE level code:

Windows GUI with build in progress:


Mac GUI Close Up:


As a taste test, I offer you all the Windows command line versions:

Download (Windows 32/64bit, Compiled on Windows 10): https://mega.nz/#!87QSGJxb!JgVIGih_ZXJSa_o2nQZVRUQVRGKENCbCLXBCJzSqdyY
MD5: 163d92044d437dfcb0c8f9b07be3be7a
VirusTotal: https://virustotal.com/en/file/ab67ac90046b7b762cc02e8cd114692c155e4d31249205dcf3743b4710b3a21a/analysis/1497209937/

PeterTheGrape, would this qualify for the .0036xxx bounty you offer? Cheesy If so, and if you'll all have me, I'd like to accept interim dev duties. I will post a Github version of the updated code and Windows/Mac GUI builds. This build includes some updated seed nodes as well, but I would also consider registering a domain and building a more permanent network of them should you spread CHAOS upon me.

My CHAO address: zU92b7Evox74fWvxcz9GZCSep9TnfPhDEG Of course I would accept any tokens of appreciation.

HAIL ERIS!

I apologize for my excessive caution and paranoia, but first a few questions. You are using a profile name that is very similar to a widely respected member, vlad2vlad who has a high trust rating but your profile is fairly new? Are you vlad2vlad?

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I just looked at your past posts and saw you are respecting vlad2vlad with that name. Tentatively I will send you part of the bounty, the rest when There is confirmation from enough others that the code is good. Sorry for my paranoia, yes I am an asshole but it is necessary.
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June 11, 2017, 09:29:02 PM
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Gentlemen, ladies, lovers of conversation, makers of hay, I have been working to update Skidoo with CORE level code:

Windows GUI with build in progress:
https://i.imgur.com/aEd9zEB.png

Mac GUI Close Up:
https://i.imgur.com/XtqMDwD.png

As a taste test, I offer you all the Windows command line versions:

Download (Windows 32/64bit, Compiled on Windows 10): https://mega.nz/#!87QSGJxb!JgVIGih_ZXJSa_o2nQZVRUQVRGKENCbCLXBCJzSqdyY
MD5: 163d92044d437dfcb0c8f9b07be3be7a
VirusTotal: https://virustotal.com/en/file/ab67ac90046b7b762cc02e8cd114692c155e4d31249205dcf3743b4710b3a21a/analysis/1497209937/

PeterTheGrape, would this qualify for the .0036xxx bounty you offer? Cheesy If so, and if you'll all have me, I'd like to accept interim dev duties. I will post a Github version of the updated code and Windows/Mac GUI builds. This build includes some updated seed nodes as well, but I would also consider registering a domain and building a more permanent network of them should you spread CHAOS upon me.

My CHAO address: zU92b7Evox74fWvxcz9GZCSep9TnfPhDEG Of course I would accept any tokens of appreciation.

HAIL ERIS!

I apologize for my excessive caution and paranoia, but first a few questions. You are using a profile name that is very similar to a widely respected member, vlad2vlad who has a high trust rating but your profile is fairly new? Are you vlad2vlad?

edit to add

I just looked at your past posts and saw you are respecting vlad2vlad with that name. Tentatively I will send you part of the bounty, the rest when There is confirmation from enough others that the code is good. Sorry for my paranoia, yes I am an asshole but it is necessary.

I am not Vlad2Vlad, but I have had conversations with him and share his conspiracy theory mentality. Its what brought me to the Illuminatus! tokens in the first place, and CHAO was the only one left out of TheGreatOldOne's last round of updates.

Please do feel free to test these NoGUI versions, the GUI version is ready and enables all of the goodies that the CORE series brings like CoinControl, a nicer RPC Console, and the ability for merged-mining with Bitcoin, Devcoin, IxCoin, Unobtanium, and the other SHA256 alts.
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June 11, 2017, 09:43:39 PM
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My CHAO address: zU92b7Evox74fWvxcz9GZCSep9TnfPhDEG Of course I would accept any tokens of appreciation.

HAIL ERIS!

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0.00173979 of the bounty paid c7ee709f727740938a8d66612fbd85f4574cf13c120c251da9e3a170cafa191f because you sound upright, the rest in pieces, so to speak

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Looks good so far

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I have a lot of this coin now and will pay dev donations and other bounties for a while. Some of the chao s I bought are commited to another project but at this point I'll say tentatively if the wallet works then the rest of the premine to vlad9, then I'll try to offer the same amount again as bounties for other work.

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There wasn't really a premine, but it was off grid for a while so a person could call that ninja or stealth or premine though in this case it was not that.  

add3 is that the wallet that shows on the network as 0.13.1.1?
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June 11, 2017, 10:45:56 PM
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Synched a fork of thegreatoldone/skidoo so as to have the commit chain.

Code here for from source building: http://github.com/twentythreeskidoo/skidoo

Yes to the 0.13.1.1 as well, though for the final build was changed to 0.10 for to be congruent. Working on uploading the Windows GUI versions next, then will do Mac. Much thanks for the CHAOS.

~edit: ran the -qt.exe through VirusTotal and it comes up with 2 falsies that a bit of googling shows is present in a few other coins. Don't like them, will dig through and scrub them before posting links.
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June 12, 2017, 12:54:15 AM
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2nd half of that bounty paid, plus or minus

0.00195151 chao 0d86e19c9a7442cfe8a055901b170162e7a9e1ed3c4bc0b1e4503a8b13ee78f1

So now the bounty resets at ~ 0.00354369 CHAO but I'm going to try to pay small bounties so I don't run out.

Coin supply is 0.25462806 so if somebody comes up with some useful idea the standard bounty will be 1/1000th of the coin supply, or 0.00025463 roughly. A useless idea gets a lot less, a cure for cancer gets a little more.

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June 12, 2017, 01:16:03 AM
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awesome coin, can I get one from bounties or giveaway dev ?
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June 12, 2017, 01:23:37 AM
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awesome coin, can I get one from bounties or giveaway dev ?

Bounties are restricted to people who post a CHAO address. You also have to add some idea or something to the coin, some suggestion whatever.  The dev is currently in Afghanistan building the github repository.
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June 12, 2017, 01:29:31 AM
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awesome, chao is kind an old chinesse mans name, so maybe we can dedicated this coin for poor and for kids. chao interesting one. tell me how to get this coin without buying on the market
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awesome, chao is kind an old chinesse mans name, so maybe we can dedicated this coin for poor and for kids. chao interesting one. tell me how to get this coin without buying on the market

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You can suggest some work you would like to do to earn some of the coin?

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June 13, 2017, 03:27:11 AM
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After a couple more compiles and tests, same false positives and after a tad of research it seems these are inherent to the 0.13.xx branch I chose to fork:

https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/bitcoin.org/issues/1472

I chose 0.13.xx as the "latest stable," but may have to re-rebase it again in the long term. Going to try a couple more compiles and build a fresh VM from scratch just to be sure--if nothing else works, I'll post links in the next 24 hoursish.
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After a couple more compiles and tests, same false positives and after a tad of research it seems these are inherent to the 0.13.xx branch I chose to fork:

https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/bitcoin.org/issues/1472

I chose 0.13.xx as the "latest stable," but may have to re-rebase it again in the long term. Going to try a couple more compiles and build a fresh VM from scratch just to be sure--if nothing else works, I'll post links in the next 24 hoursish.

There is Kutangterbang who is looking for work and may be interested in the coin. Is there some work you can think of and I'll send him/her a bounty for it? We just need a few more people and some koolaid.

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June 13, 2017, 04:18:19 AM
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A Chinese (or any other language) translation would be great--but as you mentioned, its CHAO because of CHAOS, not for any other reason (or is it?). Mystery abounds this token.

I suggest anyone not familiar with the lexicon to read ISBN 1-85487-574-4 or at a minimum "The Eye in the Pyramid."  Grin
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June 13, 2017, 04:40:28 AM
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A Chinese (or any other language) translation would be great--but as you mentioned, its CHAO because of CHAOS, not for any other reason (or is it?). Mystery abounds this token.

I suggest anyone not familiar with the lexicon to read ISBN 1-85487-574-4 or at a minimum "The Eye in the Pyramid."  Grin

According to wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Anton_Wilson the author is decomposing, but his website survives http://rawilson.com/

I don't know about any of that stuff, but we are conditioned through society to believe that money is the way to 'god', and we are taught by nature that 'there can be only one 'god'". So if a person wants to be respectful of both society's lies and nature's truth then there can be only one money, and if there is more than one then chaos reign. It will be a while, based on the slow emission, but a person should invest and prepare.
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June 13, 2017, 09:31:24 PM
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Your work is drawing true believers like flies to honey but they are not using the new wallet yet. Now there are 4 versions in use. One Chao or Skidoo would cost 15.56 btc if one were available. Next stop 1,000 btc. Then a bounty payable to Trump if he changes the U.S. currency from dollar to Chao. It would be the patriotic thing for him to do.

Maybe a 0.001 chao bounty for a copy of the Russian "Trump, you're a nation" video, to help him do the patriotic thing. A good blender/photoshop version would bounty at half that or less, depending on quality.

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June 13, 2017, 09:47:41 PM
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Making some rapid progress here now. Here's the Mac Version, nicely compiled and VirusTotal Free:

Mac GUI: https://github.com/twentythreeskidoo/Mac/raw/master/Skidoo-Qt.dmg
MD5: 81c4d89abe22ffd241a353f6b8dbbb77
VirusTotal: https://virustotal.com/en/file/283806f337f72e2b3c0aa74c6e9a1192a83f706b0cba2b77fcc926f902c93d38/analysis/1497389739/

In keeping with TheGreatOldOne's methodology, I will keep my executables on Github rather than Mega or GoogleDrive. If anyone wants Mega links, please feel free to make them. Others should check the MD5s.

Windows very soon.
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June 13, 2017, 11:32:54 PM
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Was able to scrub the false positives--except one from an obscure AV. As such, please sandbox if you're concerned. Don't want to make the masses wait any longer so here's a Windows GUI:

Windows GUI: https://github.com/twentythreeskidoo/Windows/raw/master/23Skidoo-GUI-0.10.1.1.zip
MD5: 1ef170c8bb3e6923c0dbb1d802966c89
VirusTotal: https://virustotal.com/en/file/2f82b9d1515b5a100d16483f125d5570c9359abde9bab6c1f0a26ccce4d6d7c2/analysis/1497396009/

Because VirusTotal still shows a single false positive, I also scanned with OPSWAT, and its 100% clean: https://www.metadefender.com/?__hstc=254604375.e3c784034fafa2ab11247fd84c418454.1497396488650.1497396488650.1497396488650.1&__hssc=254604375.1.1497396488651&__hsfp=626999551#!/results/file/YTE3MDYxM1N5WlJySHhSR2JySlBUcmxSTWI/extracted/files

As always, check the MD5's and know your endorser!

Lets see, what's next--maybe updates for a few other Blazr2 coins?
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Was able to scrub the false positives--except one from an obscure AV. As such, please sandbox if you're concerned. Don't want to make the masses wait any longer so here's a Windows GUI:

Windows GUI: https://github.com/twentythreeskidoo/Windows/raw/master/23Skidoo-GUI-0.10.1.1.zip
MD5: 1ef170c8bb3e6923c0dbb1d802966c89
VirusTotal: https://virustotal.com/en/file/2f82b9d1515b5a100d16483f125d5570c9359abde9bab6c1f0a26ccce4d6d7c2/analysis/1497396009/

Because VirusTotal still shows a single false positive, I also scanned with OPSWAT, and its 100% clean: https://www.metadefender.com/?__hstc=254604375.e3c784034fafa2ab11247fd84c418454.1497396488650.1497396488650.1497396488650.1&__hssc=254604375.1.1497396488651&__hsfp=626999551#!/results/file/YTE3MDYxM1N5WlJySHhSR2JySlBUcmxSTWI/extracted/files

As always, check the MD5's and know your endorser!

Lets see, what's next--maybe updates for a few other Blazr2 coins?

A good time to invest

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https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=FLAX_BTC

The 3rd coin might not be on an exchange.

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June 13, 2017, 11:57:09 PM
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any bounty to earn this awesome coin ?
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June 14, 2017, 12:06:41 AM
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the idea is clean up the earth and healthy living style. cause as I know this coin name kind a chinesse name, the chinesse people is so famous in any kind of healthy living, they know about herb thousand years ago. I have so much plan for this name actually. its great name of chinesse Smiley
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June 14, 2017, 12:43:16 AM
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Somebody who wants a bounty should come up with an idea, something they want to do to earn some of the coin. If a person is specifically interested in this coin then they might read the thread a little then decide what they might do that could get a bounty, then ask if somebody will pay a bounty for that.

For example "Hi, I speak such and such language, do you want a translation thread" or "Hi, I make blender movies, do you want a copy of the video of Trump with some hookers" or whatever.

Translation bounties can get expensive because there are a lot of languages. I offered Kutangterbang a translation bounty. The next translation bounty will pay half that. The third half again, or 1/4 of what Kutangterang's bounty is etc.

There are a lot of people who have some of this coin though and some of them could offer bounties if they see a worthwhile project.

There are also just a lot of people who want to earn some coins, but are not especially interested in a particular coin, so I'll offer a bounty of 0.0001 if somebody collects a bunch of links to threads that tell people how to get a little bit of coins for free, faucets, capcha work, etc. Do not do any work on a bounty until you have posted the offer and the offer is accepted. If somebody asks to be paid without first having discussed the bounty and the bounty payer agreeing, then no bounty will be paid. 
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the idea is clean up the earth and healthy living style. cause as I know this coin name kind a chinesse name, the chinesse people is so famous in any kind of healthy living, they know about herb thousand years ago. I have so much plan for this name actually. its great name of chinesse Smiley

That's good to clean up the earth. Healthy living also good. Medical herbs good.

What does that mean exactly for a coin though? How would a coin clean up the earth?

Is there something this coin is suited to more than, for example, bitcoin or some more popular coin?
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Lets see, what's next--maybe updates for a few other Blazr2 coins?

Some urgency there. Just found http://cthulhu.tk/ and says only two connections.
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Lets see, what's next--maybe updates for a few other Blazr2 coins?

Some urgency there. Just found http://[Suspicious link removed]/ and says only two connections.

Ahh Offerings to Cthulhu, another beautiful coin idea, and if I recall correctly its the oldest of the bunch. Perhaps Blazr2's first or was that Un (still not sure why everyone calls Un UNO). Challenge accepted, Offerings also accepted--Cthulhu F'taghn!
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June 14, 2017, 02:38:09 PM
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the idea is clean up the earth and healthy living style. cause as I know this coin name kind a chinesse name, the chinesse people is so famous in any kind of healthy living, they know about herb thousand years ago. I have so much plan for this name actually. its great name of chinesse Smiley

That's good to clean up the earth. Healthy living also good. Medical herbs good.

What does that mean exactly for a coin though? How would a coin clean up the earth?

Is there something this coin is suited to more than, for example, bitcoin or some more popular coin?
His words are meaningless and even he didn't know what he said. This coin already dead a whole time ago. Coins is just a coin, nothing would be happen with the earth except the rich person takes action.
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... Coins is just a coin, nothing would be happen with the earth except the rich person takes action.


You were misunderstanding.

A lot of people on these threads are just looking for work. They don't know one coin from another, but they need some income, and income takes priority if you need it.

Coins can do things beyond store and transfer wealth, they can have useful algorithms or clever people can use the economy created by a single currency to influence other things, including other economies.

If a person has some ideal, "healthy living" or whatever, then it isn't enough to just say "lets attach that phrase to a coin and poof we have healthy living".

As far as dead coins, if you think a coin is dead, don't disturb it, it is disrespectful.
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As far as dead coins, if you think a coin is dead, don't disturb it, it is disrespectful.

Agreed, best to let sleeping dogs lie.
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June 14, 2017, 09:53:59 PM
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I was a very early supporter & adopter of this coin. Because the original dev has disappeared & the project itself is basically dead, I don't really mess with it anymore. The only thing it has going for it is the rarity, although that alone doesn't really justify some of the crazy prices I see people purchase it on Cryptopia for (it's been in the 6 BTC range before). If someone were to takeover this coin & continue development while giving it a real world application, they could always create a dev fee or fund it via many other ways using proceeds from the coin. Unfortunately, we have seen so many greedy people takeover other projects and suck the life right out of it. I think the community would want to see some real progress along with a solid plan that is outlined and followed before any real money is taken in any form. First prove you have what it takes, then you can justify creating a reasonable fund to further development and compensate the dev(s) for time spent working..


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June 14, 2017, 10:20:55 PM
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I have read all the comment from this thread about this coin . well is there any planing to do with this dude, I see this coin has no more aiming. and please be more respect. we all can decide what we wanna do. if anyone wants to bring this coin back , just go for it. decide what must to do. dont take this for so long whitout anything. if you wanna do, start to decide and go foward, if not just leave. Ill pray for all your best
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I was a very early supporter & adopter of this coin. Because the original dev has disappeared & the project itself is basically dead, I don't really mess with it anymore. The only thing it has going for it is the rarity, although that alone doesn't really justify some of the crazy prices I see people purchase it on Cryptopia for (it's been in the 6 BTC range before). If someone were to takeover this coin & continue development while giving it a real world application, they could always create a dev fee or fund it via many other ways using proceeds from the coin. Unfortunately, we have seen so many greedy people takeover other projects and suck the life right out of it. I think the community would want to see some real progress along with a solid plan that is outlined and followed before any real money is taken in any form. First prove you have what it takes, then you can justify creating a reasonable fund to further development and compensate the dev(s) for time spent working..

Please feel free to send me any CHAO you don't want. I don't think the original dev "disappeared," per se, it seems to me this (and FLAX and OFF) are not meant to be coins in the "traditional" sense, nor are their "roadmaps," (I don't think there was ever really a 'project' that went with any of Blazr2/Hagbard's coins). I don't have anything to add but the ability to keep the wallets updated, some nodes running, and my time.

Of course all the support in the world matters not without functional code, but again, these coins seem to be one-offs in a world of pump and dumps. You either get them or you don't. Would I like to be compensated? Sure who wouldn't. Will I work for the love of the coins, yeah, its kinda why I updated this one in the first place. Working on the others now, perhaps we can raise TheGreatOldOne by submitting pull requests?
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Thanks, vlad9vlad! 

These tokens are very unique, true crypto collectibles

Its good to see a small but dedicated community here willing to do what it takes to keep 23Skidoo running. I have solid confidence in Skidoo's future thanks to your updates.

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To explain something about this coin.

Some people put the 'financial value' of a coin or currency by the price of one unit of the currency. So they think for example a coin that is expensive, $5 a coin, is "worth more" than a coin that is $1 a coin.

Other people value a coin by its whole economy or ecosystem. So if a coin's ecosystem contains 100 coins at $1 each, it would be worth more than a coin ecosystem that had 5 coins at $5 each, even though the coin itself, at $1, would be worth less.

With this particular coin there are only 0.25753416 coins that exist. In other words not even one whole coin exists yet, because each block contains only a tiny fraction of one coin, and all the CHAO coins mined so far do not yet add up to 1 coin.

So you cannot buy 1 of the coin, nor even one half. The most you can buy is 0.25753416 if you bought them all.

However...  somebody has an order to buy 0.51290751 at a very low price. So, if the market for that coin crashes and everybody were to sell all they had to that buyer, the most they could buy would be 0.25753416 of a coin. Maybe their purpose is just to store a little bitcoin there, waiting for a correction or something.

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If somebody wants to do something with this coin as part of a a group that already exists, for example if you are an artistic goth suicidal anarchist who wants to form a country, and are part of such a group which has members but no economy yet, then you can post for a bounty to start a project. I have enough of this coin to pay more small bounties and am trying to interest somebody else in this coin already, but that effort has not succeeded yet.

This is one of three coins created by somebody with an artistic bent, a bent artist, a few years ago.
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June 27, 2017, 12:49:54 PM
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There is an awesome explorer for 23 Skidoo now. It has been added to Chainz. Thanks to the benefactor who paid for this.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/chao/#

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Took this explorer down to support Prototanium Netowrk by running a node.

We have https://chainz.cryptoid.info/chao/ so it shouldn't be an issue.

The 23 Skidoo node is still up so feel free to continue to use addnode=skidoo.duckdns.org

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I analyzed this coin for 5 days. I can say with certainty about this coin several extraordinary mysteries. It seems like there are two pools. But the peculiarity of one thing from another is extraordinary. First, the Zpool.ca pool did not have a zero block. The second is that basically all the delicious blocks are always taken by him. He - very rarely gives the block if there is a commission in it. And in the fourth - there is no possibility for him to connect, although somewhere he found a link to it. Well, in the fifth - I often noticed finding more than two blocks (even seven blocks were located), but blocks in the blockage were displayed in smaller numbers, probably because of the tasty block. In the sixth - only the percentage of fall is close to 20, so immediately Zpool begins to gain momentum on the collection of blocks, although the hasht was seen 5.5 t \ s against its 1.2 t \ s.

And the most interesting. I fell into a large corridor, and mined in one more than 12 hours. I stopped the mining for 2 hours, during this time the Zpool pool did not find more than one block. In general, during this time, not one block was found. As soon as I launched my antmayner, so immediately the Zpool pool began to find blocks. And so it was done several times. Mining carried out on http://wmikrut.com/

Shame on fellow developers, it should be embarrassing.

File for downloading wallet http://web.archive.org/web/20150803055643/http://www.23skidoo.info/skidoo-qt.zip

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I analyzed this coin for 5 days. I can say with certainty about this coin several extraordinary mysteries. It seems like there are two pools. But the peculiarity of one thing from another is extraordinary. First, the Zpool.ca pool did not have a zero block. The second is that basically all the delicious blocks are always taken by him. He - very rarely gives the block if there is a commission in it. And in the fourth - there is no possibility for him to connect, although somewhere he found a link to it. Well, in the fifth - I often noticed finding more than two blocks (even seven blocks were located), but blocks in the blockage were displayed in smaller numbers, probably because of the tasty block. In the sixth - only the percentage of fall is close to 20, so immediately Zpool begins to gain momentum on the collection of blocks, although the hasht was seen 5.5 t \ s against its 1.2 t \ s.

And the most interesting. I fell into a large corridor, and mined in one more than 12 hours. I stopped the mining for 2 hours, during this time the Zpool pool did not find more than one block. In general, during this time, not one block was found. As soon as I launched my antmayner, so immediately the Zpool pool began to find blocks. And so it was done several times. Mining carried out on http://wmikrut.com/

Shame on fellow developers, it should be embarrassing.

As much as I don't like it either Zpool has a great setup and now they are even mining the 0.00000001 blocks at one point they would only mine blocks that paid 0.00000010 or higher although i suspect its because of the huge price increase 23kidoo has gone through.  You can calculate which blocks will pay X amount, he's written a great script to use his multipools power to maximize earnings they don't smash the coin with hash and drive difficulty up they lets it run drop enough hash when needed to grab a paying block then stop in between.

Can blame em its the nature of the game if i had a multipool i'd probably do whats best for the pool/customers/earnings too why solve 0 paying blocks when someone else is willing to.....

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23 Skidoo is the ability of the intellect to use the minds and resources of the brilliant to create a crypto rarity that is priced today at 52BTC per coin and has no real world usage. However, art and value sometimes make no sense for 23SKidoo  is as beautiful as a Monet - which is nothing more than paint on a canvas that people are willing to pay to either see or own. It is because of its rarity that we are discussing it. Kudos to the developer for making people think!!!!! "Feeble minds are always chosen for lost causes that come a dime a dozen"
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I think this is the best fnord-crypto made for fnord people, all hail discordia !


https://principiadiscordia.com/book/1.php If you want to know more about discordia  Wink
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Good morning my friends, how do I win coins 23 skidoo Wink

Good evening friend.

If you post online somewhere (and link for posterity) your vigorous and engaged enactment of the infamous "Turkey Curse" (see https://principiadiscordia.com/book/71.php for more information) I will send some CHAO your way.  Please list a valid Skidoo address at the website hosting your enactment.  If someone else beats you to the punch w/ said action/curse, however, the coins are theirs.  ^_^

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Im trying to gain consensus to change the auxpow chain ID to make sure 23skidoo doesnt have a chain id that conflicts with another coin. I will also provide a windows QT in the next few days. miners if you could update it would be greatly appreciated.
https://github.com/Infernoman/skidoo

I made a pull request but im not sure if the old github is still active.
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Infernoman,

Awesome job, but found some discrepancies I can't fix when trying to compile on Ubuntu Server 16.04 LTS (CLI only)
I was able to compile successfully on Lubuntu 17.04 Desktop (GUI)

The error I got when trying to compile (make -f Makefile) on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (CLI only) was with this file:  rpcrawtransaction.cpp

could not find libboost_system libboost1.62-system not found ... (obviously)

I tried to typical fix which would be for line 291 in rpcrawtransaction.cpp
original line:
const CScriptID& hash = boost::get<const CScriptID&>(address);

new altered line:
const CScriptID& hash = boost::get<CScriptID&>(address);

I still couldn't get it to compile due to obvious differences between boost 1.58 (Ubuntu 16.04 CLI only LTS) and boost 1.62 (Lubuntu 17.04 GUI Desktop)

From my experience, a coin node that can be compiled on the LTS Server editions is more reliable over the long term, especially for exchange node managers and pool node managers. Setting up a version to compile on the 6 month releases of any Linux distro isn't very reliable over the long term when you have node managers running for 16.04 LTS till the next LTS version comes out to avoid upgrades/compiler errors and the dreaded downtime which can hinder exchanges at levels that produce doubt and only encourage fnords amongst noobs, shillers and trolls in the crypto community.

Could you please take a look at your code on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. I tried compiling with gcc-5 and gcc-multilib and got the same error both times.

Updating boost is not an option for me due to issues with other programs that would obviously cause the dreaded downtime, compiler and other dependency updating issues.

Just my 2 cents. If you have reasons for not being to compile from boost 1.58 forwards, I'm all ears. Keep in mind though. I'm not a code wizard.
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i've just seen chao on cryptopia. it's 31.000 btc per coin?? is that right??

can it be mined?
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Hey infernoman,

I figured it out, and I'm not a code wizard. (Maybe there is hope for me yet :-p)

Here is how you compile on Ubuntu 16.04 server without disturbing the repo boost version of 1.58, but instead of 1.62, I used 1.61

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Option 1: (with bdb 4.8 )
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
sudo apt-get install libssl-dev libevent-dev build-essential libtool autotools-dev automake pkg-config libssl-dev libevent-dev bsdmainutils python-dev libxml2-dev libxslt-dev libbz2-dev
sudo apt-get install software-properties-common
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bitcoin/bitcoin
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install libdb4.8-dev libdb4.8++-dev

git clone https://github.com/Infernoman/skidoo
cd skidoo/
sudo mkdir /boost166 && sudo chmod -R a+rwx /boost166 && wget https://sourceforge.net/projects/boost/files/boost/1.61.0/boost_1_61_0.tar.bz2 && tar -xvf boost_1_61_0.tar.bz2 && cd boost_1_61_0/ && ./bootstrap.sh && ./b2 --prefix=/boost166 cxxflags=-fPIC cflags=-fPIC link=static install
cd ..
./autogen.sh
./configure --with-boost=/boost166/   LDFLAGS="-L/boost166/lib/" CPPFLAGS="-I/boost166/include"
make V=1 -j4

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Option 2: (with repo bdb 5.3)
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sudo apt-get install libssl-dev libevent-dev build-essential libtool autotools-dev automake pkg-config libssl-dev libevent-dev bsdmainutils python-dev libxml2-dev libxslt-dev libbz2-dev
sudo apt-get install software-properties-common
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install libdb5.3-dev libdb5.3++-dev

git clone https://github.com/Infernoman/skidoo
cd skidoo/
sudo mkdir /boost166 && sudo chmod -R a+rwx /boost166 && wget https://sourceforge.net/projects/boost/files/boost/1.61.0/boost_1_61_0.tar.bz2 && tar -xvf boost_1_61_0.tar.bz2 && cd boost_1_61_0/ && ./bootstrap.sh && ./b2 --prefix=/boost166 cxxflags=-fPIC cflags=-fPIC link=static install
cd ..
./autogen.sh
./configure --with-boost=/boost166/   LDFLAGS="-L/boost166/lib/" CPPFLAGS="-I/boost166/include" --with-incompatible-bdb
make V=1 -j4

///////////////////////////

Note:  If neither of these work for you, then there is some way to add this command in the mix before the:  sudo mkdir .... line of build, but after you change directories to ~/skidoo/
git checkout old_autotools

I couldn't get the checkout old_autotools to work, so I just skipped it.

//////////////////////////

Also....

Inside your:  ~/.skidoo     (folder in /home/<username?>/ directory)

... you have to change the rpcallow in your skidoo.conf from wild cards to full blown CIDR netmask references such as:
172.16.142.0/24
127.0.0.1/32

//////////////////////////

Then.... In order to enable auxpow you have to reindex your entire database.

./skidood -reindex

/////////////////////////


Hope this helps any LTS managers that don't like changing versions every 6 months. I'm so glad Ubuntu does this though.

At the time of this post I've been running the cli in my ~/.skidoo directory:  tail debug.com

You can't /dev/null your debug file with a symbolic link (soft link) to save space and/or writes on your SSD if you are using that so be sure you rm that file if you've done that.

/////////////////////////

Also....
If you are new to linux be sure you review bitcoin's dependency list so you can:  sudo apt-get install       ... any other needed dependencies.

/////////////////////////

And again.... Thank you Infernoman for making this happen with auxpow.

In the words of Homer Simpson... Woo Hoo!!!!!

If this crashes and burns before the database reindexes with auxpow, I'll update my post.
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Hey infernoman,

I figured it out, and I'm not a code wizard. (Maybe there is hope for me yet :-p)

Here is how you compile on Ubuntu 16.04 server without disturbing the repo boost version of 1.58, but instead of 1.62, I used 1.61

///////////////////////

Option 1: (with bdb 4.8 )
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
sudo apt-get install libssl-dev libevent-dev build-essential libtool autotools-dev automake pkg-config libssl-dev libevent-dev bsdmainutils python-dev libxml2-dev libxslt-dev libbz2-dev
sudo apt-get install software-properties-common
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bitcoin/bitcoin
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install libdb4.8-dev libdb4.8++-dev

git clone https://github.com/Infernoman/skidoo
cd skidoo/
sudo mkdir /boost166 && sudo chmod -R a+rwx /boost166 && wget https://sourceforge.net/projects/boost/files/boost/1.61.0/boost_1_61_0.tar.bz2 && tar -xvf boost_1_61_0.tar.bz2 && cd boost_1_61_0/ && ./bootstrap.sh && ./b2 --prefix=/boost166 cxxflags=-fPIC cflags=-fPIC link=static install
cd ..
./autogen.sh
./configure --with-boost=/boost166/   LDFLAGS="-L/boost166/lib/" CPPFLAGS="-I/boost166/include"
make V=1 -j4

////////////////////////

Option 2: (with repo bdb 5.3)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
sudo apt-get install libssl-dev libevent-dev build-essential libtool autotools-dev automake pkg-config libssl-dev libevent-dev bsdmainutils python-dev libxml2-dev libxslt-dev libbz2-dev
sudo apt-get install software-properties-common
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install libdb5.3-dev libdb5.3++-dev

git clone https://github.com/Infernoman/skidoo
cd skidoo/
sudo mkdir /boost166 && sudo chmod -R a+rwx /boost166 && wget https://sourceforge.net/projects/boost/files/boost/1.61.0/boost_1_61_0.tar.bz2 && tar -xvf boost_1_61_0.tar.bz2 && cd boost_1_61_0/ && ./bootstrap.sh && ./b2 --prefix=/boost166 cxxflags=-fPIC cflags=-fPIC link=static install
cd ..
./autogen.sh
./configure --with-boost=/boost166/   LDFLAGS="-L/boost166/lib/" CPPFLAGS="-I/boost166/include" --with-incompatible-bdb
make V=1 -j4

///////////////////////////

Note:  If neither of these work for you, then there is some way to add this command in the mix before the:  sudo mkdir .... line of build, but after you change directories to ~/skidoo/
git checkout old_autotools

I couldn't get the checkout old_autotools to work, so I just skipped it.

//////////////////////////

Also....

Inside your:  ~/.skidoo     (folder in /home/<username?>/ directory)

... you have to change the rpcallow in your skidoo.conf from wild cards to full blown CIDR netmask references such as:
172.16.142.0/24
127.0.0.1/32

//////////////////////////

Then.... In order to enable auxpow you have to reindex your entire database.

./skidood -reindex

/////////////////////////


Hope this helps any LTS managers that don't like changing versions every 6 months. I'm so glad Ubuntu does this though.

At the time of this post I've been running the cli in my ~/.skidoo directory:  tail debug.com

You can't /dev/null your debug file with a symbolic link (soft link) to save space and/or writes on your SSD if you are using that so be sure you rm that file if you've done that.

/////////////////////////

Also....
If you are new to linux be sure you review bitcoin's dependency list so you can:  sudo apt-get install       ... any other needed dependencies.

/////////////////////////

And again.... Thank you Infernoman for making this happen with auxpow.

In the words of Homer Simpson... Woo Hoo!!!!!

If this crashes and burns before the database reindexes with auxpow, I'll update my post.

this should help too Wink
https://github.com/infernoman/skidoo/blob/master/doc/build-unix.md

sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev

To clone and build
git clone https://github.com/infernoman/skidoo && cd skidoo
./autogen.sh && ./configure --disable-tests && make -j4
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Auxpow will start at block 825,000 Smiley please make sure your client is updated before then.
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Will the old coins revive? I didn't see the official update. Why was it turned out?
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Will the old coins revive? I didn't see the official update. Why was it turned out?


Yes the chain will continue. All old coins will still be valid.
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Working windows wallet: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9tykvbaja0l5axa/CHAO.zip?dl=0
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Argh!!  Shocked  So much going on with one of my favorite coins...

I thought Infernoman wanted to make the fork so that it can be merge-mined in his pool along with other SHA256 coins (I ignored this, as I have no ASIC [yet?]).

I guess I have to figure out how these changes affect the client I have.  So... noob questions:

1)  if I'm running version 10.1.1 (and I have some coins in my wallet)... what are the steps I would need to do to?
2) [and perhaps as importantly WHY?]  -- Note that there seem to be six Skidoo sub-versions seen (how's that for alliteration?) in the last 24 hours of the network according to https://chainz.cryptoid.info/chao/#!network .
3) finally, any help compiling a QT wallet on Ubuntu would be appreciated (as I've only ever been able to get BTC and Dash functioning in a GUI-wallet, sadly (and there's a number of coins I'm much more favorably-disposed to than those).  Not really a question... the question is how would one go about doing this? (I've downloaded QT Creator 5 previously in various flailing attempts at GUI wallets, attempted various compiling/building adjustments, and altered files to successfully compile headless wallets (but, alas, have produced few GUI wallets).


Also, and importantly, for anyone else with a stake, this beloved CHAO-coin is being dropped from Cryptopia -- so anyone affected really ought to get their coins off that exchange.  Hopefully there'll be news about other exchanges soon (so that there is an open market for 23-Skidoo in the long term). Tongue

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I could add this coin to my pool/market https://cryptohub.online/  if community really needs.

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Argh!!  Shocked  So much going on with one of my favorite coins...

I thought Infernoman wanted to make the fork so that it can be merge-mined in his pool along with other SHA256 coins (I ignored this, as I have no ASIC [yet?]).

I guess I have to figure out how these changes affect the client I have.  So... noob questions:

1)  if I'm running version 10.1.1 (and I have some coins in my wallet)... what are the steps I would need to do to?
2) [and perhaps as importantly WHY?]  -- Note that there seem to be six Skidoo sub-versions seen (how's that for alliteration?) in the last 24 hours of the network according to https://chainz.cryptoid.info/chao/#!network .
3) finally, any help compiling a QT wallet on Ubuntu would be appreciated (as I've only ever been able to get BTC and Dash functioning in a GUI-wallet, sadly (and there's a number of coins I'm much more favorably-disposed to than those).  Not really a question... the question is how would one go about doing this? (I've downloaded QT Creator 5 previously in various flailing attempts at GUI wallets, attempted various compiling/building adjustments, and altered files to successfully compile headless wallets (but, alas, have produced few GUI wallets).


Also, and importantly, for anyone else with a stake, this beloved CHAO-coin is being dropped from Cryptopia -- so anyone affected really ought to get their coins off that exchange.  Hopefully there'll be news about other exchanges soon (so that there is an open market for 23-Skidoo in the long term). Tongue


The fork wasnt created by me, but the developer "thegreatoldone". I'm just helping enforce it. All i did was change the ChainID to avoid conflicting with UNO. Chainz has just updated their wallet. Cryptopia will most likely keep CHAO. but you guys need to make support requests supporting the fork because cryptopia seems to think i have bad intentions. if you have coins in your wallet and dont plan on mining, you dont have to do a thing. your wallet will stay connected to the network and any transactions sent or received will still be valid.
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Seems not working.  One hour of waiting and still not sync

skidoo-cli getinfo
{
    "version" : 110000,
    "protocolversion" : 70003,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "balance" : 0.00000000,
    "blocks" : 5098,
    "timeoffset" : -7,
    "connections" : 7,
    "proxy" : "",
    "difficulty" : 370.45045045,
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1504688440,
    "keypoolsize" : 101,
    "paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
    "relayfee" : 0.00001000,
    "errors" : ""
}

And when I use the command "/skidoo-cli getinfo" it delays the answer for 10-30 seconds , is ok?

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Infernoman,

I see where you updated the auxpow number from 600000 to 825000 from .10.1.1 release to .11 release a day ago on the github
https://github.com/Infernoman/skidoo
I'll update my node and reindex with the new figure.

Thanks again.

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Also....

Hey startsts,

Adding to your exchange would be awesome and much appreciated by the entire community, even the silent ones, but then again, maybe they hold well to the mythology?
It would be nice to see more exchanges picking up this whale of a coin.

Thanks.
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I like coins started by Blazr2.

Can you be so kind to tell me which other coins have been started by Blazr2... this coin is so strage and so fun! LOL

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Also, and importantly, for anyone else with a stake, this beloved CHAO-coin is being dropped from Cryptopia -- so anyone affected really ought to get their coins off that exchange.  Hopefully there'll be news about other exchanges soon (so that there is an open market for 23-Skidoo in the long term). Tongue

Why is Cryptopia dropping Chao?

As long as the coin is not hacked or hijacked exchanges should not be a problem soon.

 
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After ~5 hours of waiting

skidoo-cli getinfo
{
    "version" : 110000,
    "protocolversion" : 70003,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "balance" : 0.00000000,
    "blocks" : 7898,
    "timeoffset" : -18,
    "connections" : 9,
    "proxy" : "",
    "difficulty" : 69.19732235,
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1504688440,
    "keypoolsize" : 101,
    "paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
    "relayfee" : 0.00001000,
    "errors" : ""
}



It seems I will need 2 weeks to sync the wallet.... And 1 of CPU threads is fully load,   WTF it enables mining (generate) by default?

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Infernoman,

I see where you updated the auxpow number from 600000 to 825000 from .10.1.1 release to .11 release a day ago on the github
https://github.com/Infernoman/skidoo
I'll update my node and reindex with the new figure.

Thanks again.

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Hey startsts,

Adding to your exchange would be awesome and much appreciated by the entire community, even the silent ones, but then again, maybe they hold well to the mythology?
It would be nice to see more exchanges picking up this whale of a coin.

Thanks.

Great to hear Smiley I found your work and was just very surprised that it wasn't enforced, my apologies for running in like I did. One more change I was trying to enforce was changing the AUXPOW_CHAIN_ID so that CHAO wouldn't conflict with another coin at all. Currently coins with the same AUXPOW_CHAIN_ID are unable to be mined together. For AUXPOW_CHAIN_ID 117 there are quite a few of them conflicting.
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After ~5 hours of waiting

skidoo-cli getinfo
{
    "version" : 110000,
    "protocolversion" : 70003,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "balance" : 0.00000000,
    "blocks" : 7898,
    "timeoffset" : -18,
    "connections" : 9,
    "proxy" : "",
    "difficulty" : 69.19732235,
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1504688440,
    "keypoolsize" : 101,
    "paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
    "relayfee" : 0.00001000,
    "errors" : ""
}



It seems I will need 2 weeks to sync the wallet.... And 1 of CPU threads is fully load,   WTF it enables mining (generate) by default?

There are a lot of people resyncing on the network right now. so currently it is going to be slower than normal.
Also the block explorer started updating their client about 9 hours ago. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/chao
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Also, and importantly, for anyone else with a stake, this beloved CHAO-coin is being dropped from Cryptopia -- so anyone affected really ought to get their coins off that exchange.  Hopefully there'll be news about other exchanges soon (so that there is an open market for 23-Skidoo in the long term). Tongue

Why is Cryptopia dropping Chao?

As long as the coin is not hacked or hijacked exchanges should not be a problem soon.

 

Because for some reason they seem to think im a bad actor on the network. http://prntscr.com/ghwm8x
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Also, and importantly, for anyone else with a stake, this beloved CHAO-coin is being dropped from Cryptopia -- so anyone affected really ought to get their coins off that exchange.  Hopefully there'll be news about other exchanges soon (so that there is an open market for 23-Skidoo in the long term). Tongue

Why is Cryptopia dropping Chao?

As long as the coin is not hacked or hijacked exchanges should not be a problem soon.

 

Because for some reason they seem to think im a bad actor on the network. http://prntscr.com/ghwm8x

I'm sorry but 51% attack could be easily with 2 th/s  net hashrate   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
And It even has no PoS.
If I add this coin to my marketplace I will require 300 confirmations at deposits to prevent losses

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Also, and importantly, for anyone else with a stake, this beloved CHAO-coin is being dropped from Cryptopia -- so anyone affected really ought to get their coins off that exchange.  Hopefully there'll be news about other exchanges soon (so that there is an open market for 23-Skidoo in the long term). Tongue

Why is Cryptopia dropping Chao?

As long as the coin is not hacked or hijacked exchanges should not be a problem soon.

 

Because for some reason they seem to think im a bad actor on the network. http://prntscr.com/ghwm8x

I'm sorry but 51% attack could be easily with 2 th/s  net hashrate   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
And It even has no PoS.
If I add this coin to my marketplace I will require 300 confirmations at deposits to prevent losses

Yupp you're correct. but once merge mining is active there will probably be close to 5ph/s
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i've just seen chao on cryptopia. it's 31.000 btc per coin?? is that right??

can it be mined?

It can be mined solo, at https://yiimp.infernopool.com/ (which will hopefully permit merged-mining soon [if not presently]), also at zpool.ca and http://wmikrut.com/ .

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Infernoman,

I'm on the new version compiled with boost 1.61 on 16.04 LTS and reindexing as I type this. I noticed pools are halted. Not sure what's going on. As far as the chain ID, I'd have to do some digging to get more insight on this issue, but I'll dig around. With the auxpow number changed, there is a little more time to get it fixed to avoid conflict, but at least it won't affect regular mining. I'm a full node, so while reindexing, I've got people connecting as well so it shouldn't be long before everyone is caught up. Keep in mind folks, you might have to reindex your block chain.

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Infernoman,

I'm on the new version compiled with boost 1.61 on 16.04 LTS and reindexing as I type this. I noticed pools are halted. Not sure what's going on. As far as the chain ID, I'd have to do some digging to get more insight on this issue, but I'll dig around. With the auxpow number changed, there is a little more time to get it fixed to avoid conflict, but at least it won't affect regular mining. I'm a full node, so while reindexing, I've got people connecting as well so it shouldn't be long before everyone is caught up. Keep in mind folks, you might have to reindex your block chain.



I've pointed my miners over to wmikrut.com since you can mine CHAO directly but haven't been able to connect, I'm also running a full node on the pool, and my chain is up to date. worst case ill disable my other coins to get it moving.


EDIT: it's moving. If cryptopia does decide to remove CHAO i'll leave it on infernopool for you guys since its much easier to support an AUXPOW coin instead of solo.
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If and when I decide to switch over to the updated codebase (say after getting my situation together and obtaining a suitable ASIC someday), would that be when I would need to be concerned about reindexing? (Or if I keep running version 0.10.1.1 can I remain unaware of the actual implementation/mechanics of this kind of intricacy until that eventual point in time?)  If I eventually upgrade (say, to get the GUI-wallet compiled) to version 0.11, I presume one would have to save a copy of wallet.dat or backup one's coins somehow... (?)

What does running a full node really mean?  I take it one needs to have a host/server running all the time but is this anything more than merely running skidood from the terminal window and transmitting the blockchain to connected peers from time-to-time?


Also @CryptogreenT:  the other coins started by Blazr2/Hagbard Celine that I know of are Cthulhu-Offerings [OFF], Unobtanium [UNO or UN], and Flaxscript [FLAX].

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Hi, my friend, I'm from Argentina I tell you I'm conspirqnoico, I think and investigate the illuminati coins, I study computer, I have enough chao in cryptopia, which you recommend me to do? I read the comments of this forum, x what I see are updating and there will be a hardfork? , could you kindly explain what I should do: / I currently have 0.00258718 chao.
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Infernoman,

I'm on the new version compiled with boost 1.61 on 16.04 LTS and reindexing as I type this. I noticed pools are halted. Not sure what's going on. As far as the chain ID, I'd have to do some digging to get more insight on this issue, but I'll dig around. With the auxpow number changed, there is a little more time to get it fixed to avoid conflict, but at least it won't affect regular mining. I'm a full node, so while reindexing, I've got people connecting as well so it shouldn't be long before everyone is caught up. Keep in mind folks, you might have to reindex your block chain.



I've pointed my miners over to wmikrut.com since you can mine CHAO directly but haven't been able to connect, I'm also running a full node on the pool, and my chain is up to date. worst case ill disable my other coins to get it moving.


EDIT: it's moving. If cryptopia does decide to remove CHAO i'll leave it on infernopool for you guys since its much easier to support an AUXPOW coin instead of solo.

I've had the same problem with wmikrut for 6+ months. I think Comcast may be dropping some of the traffic which doesn't surprise me. They are known for traffic shaping and randomly dropping traffic because of how pathetic their infrastructure is. Like I said in an earlier post.. all Comcast does is gobble up smaller cable/internet companies and then doesn't upgrade infrastructure, then charge their customers stupid prices for 50 year old ISP technology (the physical part that is, not the software as Xfinity has shown vague improvements). wmikrut needs to get off Comcast, besides... Comcast uses telnet for their access to the modems which is all clear text. Then again... ATT isn't much better because of how their NVG589 and 599s have vulnerability issues.

https://www.inforisktoday.com/researcher-att-routers-be-easily-compromised-a-10255

Google fiber and other fiber companies are starting to step it up, but it's slow roll out. Will look into chain ID as I get time.

My node should be reindexed by now. I'm on .11.
Be in touch soon.
Thanks again.
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Hello I have 0.00258718 chao. chao in cryptopia, what do you recommend me to do?
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Hi, my friend, I'm from Argentina I tell you I'm conspirqnoico, I think and investigate the illuminati coins, I study computer, I have enough chao in cryptopia, which you recommend me to do? I read the comments of this forum, x what I see are updating and there will be a hardfork? , could you kindly explain what I should do: / I currently have 0.00258718 chao.

You can be trading skidoo at CryptoHub soon.

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I almost added skidoo to cryptohub.
But I have questions:

-What is minimum allowed transaction amount?
-What is minimum tx fee? If I set "settxfee 0.00000001" is ok?
-What is average block reward to set at calculator

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is solo still ok on ver .11?why i'm not connect on daemon?in ver.11?
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i try to solo direct on gui wallet qt or src (skidood),not working on ver .11
but i try to unomp and nomp is connected on daemon...
need help please.... to solo direct to wallet.
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I am NOT ok with losing Cryptopia as an exchange.  Neither are some of the people I know who have a stake in Chao.

Chao has an interim dev,  vlad9vlad,  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=526224.80

I am not feeling good about this 'take over.'    Get Cryptopia on board or you are done before you start.

The whole reason chao needs this is because it was 51% attacked, and that is why its being removed from cryptopia. Nothing to do with the update.
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I am NOT ok with losing Cryptopia as an exchange.  Neither are some of the people I know who have a stake in Chao.

Chao has an interim dev,  vlad9vlad,  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=526224.80

I am not feeling good about this 'take over.'    Get Cryptopia on board or you are done before you start.

The whole reason chao needs this is because it was 51% attacked, and that is why its being removed from cryptopia. Nothing to do with the update.

Please respond to me

-What is minimum allowed transaction amount?
-What is minimum tx fee? If I set "settxfee 0.00000001" is ok?

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I am NOT ok with losing Cryptopia as an exchange.  Neither are some of the people I know who have a stake in Chao.

Chao has an interim dev,  vlad9vlad,  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=526224.80

I am not feeling good about this 'take over.'    Get Cryptopia on board or you are done before you start.

The whole reason chao needs this is because it was 51% attacked, and that is why its being removed from cryptopia. Nothing to do with the update.

Please respond to me

-What is minimum allowed transaction amount?
-What is minimum tx fee? If I set "settxfee 0.00000001" is ok?

Hey startsts.
If you check out the earlier pages of this thread, you'll see the really strange payout. It follows the law of fives which is based off some mythology Blazr2 apparently had an interest in.
The smallest payout is .00000001.
Not every block has a reward either.

Here is the original thread from the now defunct 23skidoo.info website the original dev put together:

------begin snippet--------

A very odd SHA256-token indeed, if even to be called that. This is the only listing of its specifications, as provided by Malaclypse the Third only to be released upon you in this time:
 
23 total skidoo, ever. No 'pre' mine/special blocks, however the chain has already undergone its first offerings to Eris. The reward structure confirms to the Law of Fives and the 17 and 23 Enigmata and is as so:
 
If the block height is divisible by 2, the offering is rewarded with .00000001 Skidoo
If its not divisible by 2, but it is by 3, the offering is rewarded with .0000001 Skidoo
If its not divisible by 2 or 3 but ends in a 5, the offering is rewarded with .000001 Skidoo
If it doesn't conform to the Law of Fives, but is divisible by 17 or 23, the offering is .00001 Skidoo
All other blocks don't pay, yea that's right, 0. It will take nearly 400K of blocks to have 1 whole Skidoo - A LIE! - See davethehat's spreadsheet in thread.
 
1/1000th of a Skidoo is a Chao, and this is the default method of divding Skidoo. Default RPC Port is 10023. The Discordian Gravity Well was directly ripped off from Kimoto and as such, the difficulty is self-regulating. Blocks take 23 confirmations to be valid and to be infuriating, there is a 5000 milliChao limit to how much you can send at once. Oh and plus a silly fee structure that could cost you as much as you'd like to send in fees payable to the Discordian network of Skidoo pushers.


-------end snippett---------

If you go to the wayback machine and search for 23skidoo.info, you can find a little more information. I can't remember if it had Dave's spreadsheet or not. Here is the link with web snippets of the website's history. DO NOT GET THE CLIENT AT THE WAYBACK MACHINE LINK. IT"S VIRUS RIDDEN. (Sorry about the caps, not trying to scream, just want to make sure anyone reading this thread understands the importance of not using the old client from the wayback machine download link.)

wayback machine link for old 23skidoo.info:  https://web.archive.org/web/*/23skidoo.info

Infernoman has posted some links for getting the newer client on his github site.
As far as setting the tx to .00000001, I don't see why not based on the lowest payout of the law of fives being .00000001, but I'd rather have Infernoman confirm this as you have seen in my previous posts, I'm not a code wizard, but can handle some simple debugging and minor corrections to code compiling issues.

Since CHAO is SHA256 and based off of bitcoin code, the tx fee you mention should be fine. See this site regarding fees. It might offer a little insight.

https://bitcoinfees.21.co/

Hope this helps, but the minimum transaction is .00000001 as that is part of the law of fives least possible payout, if the block pays out at all.
Maybe infernoman can confirm the .00000001 tx fee.
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Hmm... I opened up the glorious skidood terminal today and "getinfo" output:

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{
    "version" : 100101,
    "protocolversion" : ...
...
...
unlocked_until" : 0,
"paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
"relayfee" : 0.00001000
"errors" : "Warning: This version is obsolete, upgrade required!"
}"

Also, https://chainz.cryptoid.info/chao/#!network lists the network clients in the past 24 hours as follows:

Sub-version              Protocol        Count            Network Share

Skidoo:0.11.0/           70003          5                41.7 %   41.7 %
/Skidoo:0.10.1.1/      70002           3                25.0 %   66.7 %
/Skidoo:0.10.1.1/       70003          1                8.3 %   75.0 %
/Skidoo:0.11.1/          70004          1                 8.3 %   83.3 %
/Skidoo:0.9.0.1/         70001          1                 8.3 %   91.7 %
/Skidoo:0.9.2/           70002           1                 8.3 %   100.0 %

If I understand, Infernoman's build is 0.11 ??   Does that version also take into account Vlad9Vlad's work to ensure it's not corrupt and rife with trojans or other malware?
For a superficial, aesthetic question: if I someday get the gui compiled in my Linux distro will it not look like that of Hagbard Celine's post #9 on this thread? If not ***that's too bad  Tongue  as that wallet is phenomenal-looking IMO **.

I'd conjecturing that the merge-mining capability should help make this coin more robust by drawing more entrants into mining this -- which should also justify (in a recursive/feedback-loop sorta way) the high prices as it is far rarer than other coins from circa 2014 e.v.  Regarding the robustness, I stumbled across something a few days back about the futurist/Extropian/Satoshi-Nakamoto-correspondent (or an alias of SN?) Hal Finney opining:

>In late 2010, he discussed the relationship between the profitability of the process and the overall health of the network. He argued for a healthy balance to
> ensure that network participants remain as concerned about security as they are about making money
> ...
> In January 2011, he offered additional thoughts on the topic, suggesting that the cost of bitcoin mining should be somewhat prohibitive.
> He voiced concern that a wealthy mining operation could theoretically take over the network, and pointed to the expenses associated with
> mining as a positive element of the process.   Finney noted:
> “Ultimately it's good for the network for mining to be expensive. It makes it that much harder for a well financed attacker to dominate the network.”
 (source: https://www.coindesk.com/hal-finney-bitcoin-words/ ).
 
So, to save the CHAO I've socked away (bought off Cryptopia the last few months) as I expect I will move away from vrsn 0.10.1.1: would the following link be roughly the process I'd want to do (hopefully it's fool-proof because I don't want to goof it up):
        https://cryptocurrencytalk.com/topic/2023-quick-guide-how-to-rebuild-a-qt-wallet-if-you-lost-your-coins/ ??
 (i.e. backup wallet.dat [unencrypt it first I guess?? as I use the passphrase feature on all coins] do the dumpprivkey stuff that link describes, and then go ahead and git clone infernoman's source, check the hash and try to compile it (hopefully with a GUI/QT , crossing my fingers that it looks as slick and distinctive as Hagbard Celine's post showed) and hope I still have access to my Chao-horde.   I'm probably going to park some coins at Cryptohub (but perhaps not the full chunk).

Also, as my client is running off the terminal only, would there be any other changes I would want to make in the directory that contains:
blocks      database  debug.log          peers.dat    skidoo.pid
chainstate  db.log    fee_estimates.dat  skidoo.conf  wallet.dat ?

Aside from saving a backup copy of the files in that directory -- except maybe "blocks" as I think that's the unpruned-blockchain.  I'd allow the new installation to rebuild it's own version of it (the .skidoo directory in Unix's nomenclature)  and then somehow get it aligned with my backup wallet (I think this is possibly the reindexing that people were referring to? More likely it's the dumpprivkey from the walkthrough site that I just mentioned)

Any constructive suggestions or insight by someone more adept at this would be appreciated.  Smiley  Much of the discussion earlier in this thread regarding the reindexing and AUXPOW  is beyond my knowledge or experience at this time (I need kind of a dumbed-down walkthrough at this point).

@mathi usted problamente necesita mover los coins a otro wallet o es possible que estaran en limbo/hostage en el intercambio.   








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/Skidoo:0.11.0/           node list   70003   5   41.7 %   41.7 %
/Skidoo:0.10.1.1/   node list   70002   3   25.0 %   66.7 %
/Skidoo:0.10.1.1/   node list   70003   1   8.3 %   75.0 %
/Skidoo:0.11.1/           node list   70004   1   8.3 %   83.3 % ==>>NEW Huh
/Skidoo:0.9.0.1/   node list   70001   1   8.3 %   91.7 %
/Skidoo:0.9.2/           node list   70002   1   8.3 %   100.0 %

new ver? Skidoo:0.11.1..oh god...
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/Skidoo:0.11.0/           node list   70003   5   41.7 %   41.7 %
/Skidoo:0.10.1.1/   node list   70002   3   25.0 %   66.7 %
/Skidoo:0.10.1.1/   node list   70003   1   8.3 %   75.0 %
/Skidoo:0.11.1/           node list   70004   1   8.3 %   83.3 % ==>>NEW Huh
/Skidoo:0.9.0.1/   node list   70001   1   8.3 %   91.7 %
/Skidoo:0.9.2/           node list   70002   1   8.3 %   100.0 %

new ver? Skidoo:0.11.1..oh god...


0.11.1 is me, working on testing changes to fix some issues i found. it wont be released officially until AUXPOW starts at block 825000
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oh..ok...
i hope is solo works too..thanks
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0.11.1 is me, working on testing changes to fix some issues i found. it wont be released officially until AUXPOW starts at block 825000

I can not import privkey from CROC coin

error: {"code":-5,"message":"Invalid private key encoding"}

any idea?  to configure merged mining I should make priv key shared between 2 coins

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0.11.1 is me, working on testing changes to fix some issues i found. it wont be released officially until AUXPOW starts at block 825000

I can not import privkey from CROC coin

error: {"code":-5,"message":"Invalid private key encoding"}

any idea?  to configure merged mining I should make priv key shared between 2 coins

There is no need to import a key from another wallet when merged mining. but you do need the proper software to do it.
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0.11.1 is me, working on testing changes to fix some issues i found. it wont be released officially until AUXPOW starts at block 825000

I can not import privkey from CROC coin

error: {"code":-5,"message":"Invalid private key encoding"}

any idea?  to configure merged mining I should make priv key shared between 2 coins

There is no need to import a key from another wallet when merged mining. but you do need the proper software to do it.

My software ( https://github.com/KillerByte/node-merged-pool )  needs one shared key.
I'm not expert of JS to change the code.   So could you explain why I can not import private key from CROC coin?

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UPDATE FROM CRYPTOPIA:

The only way we will keep a 51%'ed coin listed is if the developer or community etc is able to remunerate our user balances.

We are down about 0.03 CHAO so if think that this is possible to send us we can keep it listed (of course we would also be able to provide you exact amount, our user balances and wallet balances etc.)
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UPDATE FROM CRYPTOPIA:

The only way we will keep a 51%'ed coin listed is if the developer or community etc is able to remunerate our user balances.

We are down about 0.03 CHAO so if think that this is possible to send us we can keep it listed (of course we would also be able to provide you exact amount, our user balances and wallet balances etc.)

too much  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy 
it's about 5000$ 

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WTF,  I sent small amount for test and see that fee is there:

{
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "zAqG9VXQuAZhmAooSehTo6rkWJF6CSb9w4",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -0.00001066,
        "vout" : 0,
        "fee" : -0.00013910,
        "confirmations" : 0,
        "txid" : "b11b71d4f77cb2d532149a210f1b82fb4410831048476cfc8cff7be637542d23",
        "walletconflicts" : [
        ],
        "time" : 1504885836,
        "timereceived" : 1504885836
    }

it is after that I set paytxfee 0.00000001


{
    "version" : 110000,
    "protocolversion" : 70003,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "balance" : 0.00287400,
    "blocks" : 771598,
    "timeoffset" : -3,
    "connections" : 15,
    "proxy" : "",
    "difficulty" : 1757108.53301925,
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1504688441,
    "keypoolsize" : 101,
    "paytxfee" : 0.00000001,
    "relayfee" : 0.00001000,
    "errors" : ""
}


You should explain this behavior! I stop skidoo daemon on Cryptohub until you resolve the problem

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WTF,  I sent small amount for test and see that fee is there:

{
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "zAqG9VXQuAZhmAooSehTo6rkWJF6CSb9w4",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -0.00001066,
        "vout" : 0,
        "fee" : -0.00013910,
        "confirmations" : 0,
        "txid" : "b11b71d4f77cb2d532149a210f1b82fb4410831048476cfc8cff7be637542d23",
        "walletconflicts" : [
        ],
        "time" : 1504885836,
        "timereceived" : 1504885836
    }

it is after that I set paytxfee 0.00000001


{
    "version" : 110000,
    "protocolversion" : 70003,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "balance" : 0.00287400,
    "blocks" : 771598,
    "timeoffset" : -3,
    "connections" : 15,
    "proxy" : "",
    "difficulty" : 1757108.53301925,
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1504688441,
    "keypoolsize" : 101,
    "paytxfee" : 0.00000001,
    "relayfee" : 0.00001000,
    "errors" : ""
}


You should explain this behavior! I stop skidoo daemon on Cryptohub until you resolve the problem

Hey,

I think what occurred is explained here and would be consistent with the mythos/head-space of this coin: https://cryptocurrencytalk.com/topic/8154-23-skidoo-chao-information/ ; specifically, on the ninth line of this announcement (I'm quoting both lines 8 and 9 to provide full context):

     "1/1000th of a Skidoo is a Chao, and this is the default method of divding Skidoo. Default RPC Port is 10023. The Discordian Gravity Well was directly ripped off from Kimoto and as such, the difficulty is self-regulating. Blocks take 23 confirmations to be valid and to be           infuriating, there is a 5000 milliChao limit to how much you can send at once. Oh and plus a silly fee structure that could cost you as much as you'd like to send in fees payable to the Discordian network of Skidoo pushers."

Every time I've sent Chao to my wallet from Cryptopia I've lived in dread of this threat (it's a little malicious, somewhat-nudgingly-spiteful, and absurd at the same time).  My "listtransactions" within the daemon records seven receives from the exchange to one of of my wallet addresses (I've used/generated a different receive address each time to circumvent rich-list and taint-analyses).  Within my limited experience, I haven't yet had the transaction fees eat my transaction alive; but I'm asserting or hypothesizing that this might have occurred in this particular instance... alas.

I'm offering to make you whole/sound again.  Judging by your balance in the second block of code, my current Chao-horde is somewhat larger than yours.  Did you lose 0.00001066 CHAO or 0.00013910 CHAO in your test-send???  Please PM me a skidoo address of yours and I'll reimburse you for your loss (as I don't want this somewhat maledictive circumstance to unduly color your experience with this coin -- insofar as you are hosting the only exchange market for CHAO as Cryptopia seem to have decided to be a vigorous/flagrant collective of assholes).

Also, after I've reimbursed you for your loss, please try your test-send/experiment again.  My expectation is that transactions of CHAO should typically send like any normal coin but there are a certain percentage of transactions that fall outside a normal curve, or have "tail-risk" -- I don't know if it's a helpful metaphor but look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_swan_theory .









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Did you lose 0.00001066 CHAO or 0.00013910 CHAO in your test-send???  

Since I set fee 0.00000001  (its per kilobyte)   in case of make transaction  0.00001066 in worst case will be used 1066 unspent inputs of minimum reward and the fee should be aprox 0.00000320.  Actually it will use lower count of inputs since I have a lot of bigger unspent.

Anyway I don't understand how it could calculate that fee.

The problem is How can I pay to my miners?  If to sent 2$ i should pay 20$ fee

My address is zXuP1xCL4ZXXyPbhmd4iduTAryzCWyRifu   that transaction still having 1 confirmations, no new blocks for 23 hours,  so I don't why we are talking about,  skiddoo seems dead


Tried once more,  even with 0 fee set,  the problem persists

{
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "zAqG9VXQuAZhmAooSehTo6rkWJF6CSb9w4",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -0.00001011,
        "vout" : 1,
        "fee" : -0.00015085,
        "confirmations" : 1,
        "blockhash" : "00000000000000744c273970c17ad41b6d66f507c444a1623cef19d3b0651426",
        "blockindex" : 1,
        "blocktime" : 1504973414,
        "txid" : "fc4b9343a7e9afbbca121af69815fb6738fdfeb1f8bbb09a8e2b0c262c0d3c60",
        "walletconflicts" : [
        ],
        "time" : 1504973407,
        "timereceived" : 1504973407
    }

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Raw transaction situation:

I try to send 0.00001000  with fee 0.00000011   (I use one input of 0.00001011)

error: {"code":-26,"message":"66: insufficient priority"}


Finally seems that minimum allowed fee is 0.00001000 for kb

I could send this way:

{
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "zAqG9VXQuAZhmAooSehTo6rkWJF6CSb9w4",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -0.00000700,
        "vout" : 0,
        "fee" : -0.00000311,
        "confirmations" : 0,
        "txid" : "7677ff656c5b772c99df4b0cf56bdf67db6f246f71ef82f7e8da749acc79e4d9",
        "walletconflicts" : [
        ],
        "time" : 1504997860,
        "timereceived" : 1504997860
    }



But how a POOL  can exist if to use one unspent  0.00000001 or 0.00000010  I should pay 0.00000200 of fee?
(One unspent is about 200 bytes.  )
Now I understand -  there are no new blocks since pool (I think zpool) mines it only when there are unconfrmed transtacion in memory.

It was the main idea of coin?  To generate only blocks with transactions in it?

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Raw transaction situation:

I try to send 0.00001000  with fee 0.00000011   (I use one input of 0.00001011)

error: {"code":-26,"message":"66: insufficient priority"}


Finally seems that minimum allowed fee is 0.00001000 for kb

I could send this way:

{
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "zAqG9VXQuAZhmAooSehTo6rkWJF6CSb9w4",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -0.00000700,
        "vout" : 0,
        "fee" : -0.00000311,
        "confirmations" : 0,
        "txid" : "7677ff656c5b772c99df4b0cf56bdf67db6f246f71ef82f7e8da749acc79e4d9",
        "walletconflicts" : [
        ],
        "time" : 1504997860,
        "timereceived" : 1504997860
    }



But how a POOL  can exist if to use one unspent  0.00000001 or 0.00000010  I should pay 0.00000200 of fee?
(One unspent is about 200 bytes.  )
Now I understand -  there are no new blocks since pool (I think zpool) mines it only when there are unconfrmed transtacion in memory.

It was the main idea of coin?  To generate only blocks with transactions in it?

Yeah, I may have leapt to the wrong conclusion above... the relay fee is 0.0000100 CHAO (so the sent amount has to be larger than that to have any rationale to send it).

Zpool seems to have mined the last five blocks.  I think Wmikrut was mining its own private orphaned chain for a bit in the last 24 hrs too.

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Raw transaction situation:

I try to send 0.00001000  with fee 0.00000011   (I use one input of 0.00001011)

error: {"code":-26,"message":"66: insufficient priority"}


Finally seems that minimum allowed fee is 0.00001000 for kb

I could send this way:

{
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "zAqG9VXQuAZhmAooSehTo6rkWJF6CSb9w4",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -0.00000700,
        "vout" : 0,
        "fee" : -0.00000311,
        "confirmations" : 0,
        "txid" : "7677ff656c5b772c99df4b0cf56bdf67db6f246f71ef82f7e8da749acc79e4d9",
        "walletconflicts" : [
        ],
        "time" : 1504997860,
        "timereceived" : 1504997860
    }



But how a POOL  can exist if to use one unspent  0.00000001 or 0.00000010  I should pay 0.00000200 of fee?
(One unspent is about 200 bytes.  )
Now I understand -  there are no new blocks since pool (I think zpool) mines it only when there are unconfrmed transtacion in memory.

It was the main idea of coin?  To generate only blocks with transactions in it?

Yeah, I may have leapt to the wrong conclusion above... the relay fee is 0.0000100 CHAO (so the sent amount has to be larger than that to have any rationale to send it).

Zpool seems to have mined the last five blocks.  I think Wmikrut was mining its own private orphaned chain for a bit in the last 24 hrs too.

so it means block rewards lower than 0.00001000  are dust,  why those few rewards exist?

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UPDATE FROM CRYPTOPIA:

The only way we will keep a 51%'ed coin listed is if the developer or community etc is able to remunerate our user balances.

We are down about 0.03 CHAO so if think that this is possible to send us we can keep it listed (of course we would also be able to provide you exact amount, our user balances and wallet balances etc.)

There are a few issues.

1) Is the issue fixable or is it going to keep happening? If it has been fixed then I'll contribute a fair amount. If it hasn't been fixed and is going to keep on happening then better to let the coin drop and wait til the problem is clear.

2) What exactly happened? Does 51% mean a 51% attack and somebody changed the blockchain or made extra coins? Why would they relist it if it were an attack likely to happen again and again? Then every time it happens people will need to pay the exchange however much is lost?

A cool coin and potentially very useful but if an attacker can take coins at will then no sense having it on an exchange.
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Also, and importantly, for anyone else with a stake, this beloved CHAO-coin is being dropped from Cryptopia -- so anyone affected really ought to get their coins off that exchange.  Hopefully there'll be news about other exchanges soon (so that there is an open market for 23-Skidoo in the long term). Tongue

Why is Cryptopia dropping Chao?

As long as the coin is not hacked or hijacked exchanges should not be a problem soon.

 

Because for some reason they seem to think im a bad actor on the network. http://prntscr.com/ghwm8x

Sorry, just reading back in the thread and got to this.

So the coin has not been hijacked, but somehow they lost 0.03 chao?

How did they lose that?
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You have to work on it because it is rare And famous
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Well I close pool at cryptohub since its mining is impossible due to this high tx fee.
But market is working:  https://cryptohub.online/market/CHAO/

I set withdrawal fee 0.00001000,  I don't know if it will be enough.

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skidoo CHAO,no list on cryptopia now...
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Raw transaction situation:

I try to send 0.00001000  with fee 0.00000011   (I use one input of 0.00001011)

error: {"code":-26,"message":"66: insufficient priority"}


Finally seems that minimum allowed fee is 0.00001000 for kb

I could send this way:

{
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "zAqG9VXQuAZhmAooSehTo6rkWJF6CSb9w4",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -0.00000700,
        "vout" : 0,
        "fee" : -0.00000311,
        "confirmations" : 0,
        "txid" : "7677ff656c5b772c99df4b0cf56bdf67db6f246f71ef82f7e8da749acc79e4d9",
        "walletconflicts" : [
        ],
        "time" : 1504997860,
        "timereceived" : 1504997860
    }



But how a POOL  can exist if to use one unspent  0.00000001 or 0.00000010  I should pay 0.00000200 of fee?
(One unspent is about 200 bytes.  )
Now I understand -  there are no new blocks since pool (I think zpool) mines it only when there are unconfrmed transtacion in memory.

It was the main idea of coin?  To generate only blocks with transactions in it?

Yeah, I may have leapt to the wrong conclusion above... the relay fee is 0.0000100 CHAO (so the sent amount has to be larger than that to have any rationale to send it).

Zpool seems to have mined the last five blocks.  I think Wmikrut was mining its own private orphaned chain for a bit in the last 24 hrs too.

Am I orphaned?

I see my wallet height matches https://chainz.cryptoid.info/chao/ within a block or two.
If I was orphaned I would think it would be way off.

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skidoo CHAO,no list on cryptopia now...

Once i get enough funds together from mining. I will get cryptopia back online.

Also wmikrut, you may be. Just found some information relating to the fork and syncing on the windows client that most likely affected mining as well. Pushed my changes to Unobtanium and PR already. just about to push the changes for skidoo
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Raw transaction situation:

I try to send 0.00001000  with fee 0.00000011   (I use one input of 0.00001011)

error: {"code":-26,"message":"66: insufficient priority"}


Finally seems that minimum allowed fee is 0.00001000 for kb

I could send this way:

{
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "zAqG9VXQuAZhmAooSehTo6rkWJF6CSb9w4",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -0.00000700,
        "vout" : 0,
        "fee" : -0.00000311,
        "confirmations" : 0,
        "txid" : "7677ff656c5b772c99df4b0cf56bdf67db6f246f71ef82f7e8da749acc79e4d9",
        "walletconflicts" : [
        ],
        "time" : 1504997860,
        "timereceived" : 1504997860
    }



But how a POOL  can exist if to use one unspent  0.00000001 or 0.00000010  I should pay 0.00000200 of fee?
(One unspent is about 200 bytes.  )
Now I understand -  there are no new blocks since pool (I think zpool) mines it only when there are unconfrmed transtacion in memory.

It was the main idea of coin?  To generate only blocks with transactions in it?

Yeah, I may have leapt to the wrong conclusion above... the relay fee is 0.0000100 CHAO (so the sent amount has to be larger than that to have any rationale to send it).

Zpool seems to have mined the last five blocks.  I think Wmikrut was mining its own private orphaned chain for a bit in the last 24 hrs too.

Am I orphaned?

I see my wallet height matches https://chainz.cryptoid.info/chao/ within a block or two.
If I was orphaned I would think it would be way off.


You can pull and rebuild now. I've got my miners pointed your way. should be no need to reindex.
Do a "git checkout chainID" just incase. I've switched that to the default branch though.

Once im sure we're all on the right fork and working together then ill get a windows client released.
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September 12, 2017, 02:57:20 AM
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Cloning chainID and compiling now.
I have stopped the pool while I work on this.

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Cloning chainID and compiling now.
I have stopped the pool while I work on this.


not a problem Smiley i've got failover setup as well. if you look at what was changed, Auxpow coins use a block version of 65536 * chainID instead of the regular block version 1,2,3,4,5 etc. so the code i originally used was unable to properly determine which block was on which chainID and account for that.
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Cloning chainID and compiling now.
I have stopped the pool while I work on this.


not a problem Smiley i've got failover setup as well. if you look at what was changed, Auxpow coins use a block version of 65536 * chainID instead of the regular block version 1,2,3,4,5 etc. so the code i originally used was unable to properly determine which block was on which chainID and account for that.

I would be lying if I said I didn't always diff source before I launched an update.
I'd be lying further if I said I said I fully understood the intricacies of the coin code.  Roll Eyes


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New version running and now I match the block explorer!
Thank you!!

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New version running and now I match the block explorer!
Thank you!!

Not a problem Smiley just waiting for chainz to swap to the newest version now Smiley you can check my block height at yiimp.infernopool.com as well Smiley
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The community is a bit cold, and you should do something to attract the crowd to follow
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Why CHAO is no longer in the exchange Cryptopia?

 
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Why CHAO is no longer in the exchange Cryptopia?

Latest update from Cryptopia. I will not pay the 0.03 CHAO until it has switched to auxpow at block 825,000. If anyone would like to contribute you can do so here zNSmP2VWLm5tT1GiYuP8L4RYS4MWpZf35Y


Hi infernoman,

Yes, we always keep a backup of the wallet database. Once you are ready to pass on the 0.03 CHAO we are happy to stand up a wallet so you can deposit and relist CHAO.

Thanks,
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September 12, 2017, 12:16:49 PM
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You can already use CryptoHub  https://cryptohub.online/market/CHAO/
But only market.  Pool will not exist

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Raw transaction situation:

I try to send 0.00001000  with fee 0.00000011   (I use one input of 0.00001011)

error: {"code":-26,"message":"66: insufficient priority"}


Finally seems that minimum allowed fee is 0.00001000 for kb

I could send this way:

{
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "zAqG9VXQuAZhmAooSehTo6rkWJF6CSb9w4",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -0.00000700,
        "vout" : 0,
        "fee" : -0.00000311,
        "confirmations" : 0,
        "txid" : "7677ff656c5b772c99df4b0cf56bdf67db6f246f71ef82f7e8da749acc79e4d9",
        "walletconflicts" : [
        ],
        "time" : 1504997860,
        "timereceived" : 1504997860
    }



But how a POOL  can exist if to use one unspent  0.00000001 or 0.00000010  I should pay 0.00000200 of fee?
(One unspent is about 200 bytes.  )
Now I understand -  there are no new blocks since pool (I think zpool) mines it only when there are unconfrmed transtacion in memory.

It was the main idea of coin?  To generate only blocks with transactions in it?

Yeah, I may have leapt to the wrong conclusion above... the relay fee is 0.0000100 CHAO (so the sent amount has to be larger than that to have any rationale to send it).

Zpool seems to have mined the last five blocks.  I think Wmikrut was mining its own private orphaned chain for a bit in the last 24 hrs too.

Am I orphaned?

I see my wallet height matches https://chainz.cryptoid.info/chao/ within a block or two.
If I was orphaned I would think it would be way off.


You can pull and rebuild now. I've got my miners pointed your way. should be no need to reindex.
Do a "git checkout chainID" just incase. I've switched that to the default branch though.

Once im sure we're all on the right fork and working together then ill get a windows client released.


Infernoman,

I'll check your github tonight and make sure my chain ID is correct and update/reindex/redownload blockchain if required.

Yeah... regarding coinmarketcap, I see where it's not listed anymore, even as an inactive coin.
I'm sure a lot of the exchange issues can be corrected once everyone is up to par with the new code
in order to avoid 51% attack issues in the future.

All of these ridiculous ICOs (which seem to be primarily based in PoS) I see with unheard of prices are all volatility price shifts. If there is no converged network to function as transaction processors, regardless of whether you are PoS or PoW, there is no real support for the price swings outside psychological volatility market swings. Reminds me of the volatility of Options contracts and futures in the Wall Street world that co-exists with fiat currency(ies).

Thanks,
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Hello All. I stored on cryptopia 0.00050113 CHAO. What do I do, how to get my savings back?
Thaks.
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Hello All. I stored on cryptopia 0.00050113 CHAO. What do I do, how to get my savings back?
Thaks.

user balances will also be restored as far as i know. just need to wait until auxpow kicks in at block 825000
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September 15, 2017, 12:33:47 AM
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I just compared my wallet to the explorer and it seems I'm out of sync again.
My wallet is showing 771677 but the explorer (https://chainz.cryptoid.info/chao/) currently shows 771628

I will NEVER ask for any kind of funds up front in a buy/sale of anything on bitcointalk.

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I just compared my wallet to the explorer and it seems I'm out of sync again.
My wallet is showing 771677 but the explorer (https://chainz.cryptoid.info/chao/) currently shows 771628

Just put another 0.11.1 node online and that was me emailing you Wink could you send a list of the peers in your wallet?
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Emailed you the list.
Thank you!

I will NEVER ask for any kind of funds up front in a buy/sale of anything on bitcointalk.

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0.11.1 windows wallet.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9tykvbaja0l5axa/CHAO.zip?dl=0

If you're using 0.10.1.1 or 0.11.0 please update to 0.11.1
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Sounds good, I like the concept that you have, but I still need more information from this project, with bounty for example, I hope this project soon update the announcement
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Hello All. I stored on cryptopia 0.00050113 CHAO. What do I do, how to get my savings back?
Thaks.

user balances will also be restored as far as i know. just need to wait until auxpow kicks in at block 825000
Good news. Thanx!
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I update to new version

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Emailed you the list.
Thank you!


Looks like we're all back on track now Smiley I had a suspicion that it wasnt enough 0.11.1 nodes. I'm happy i was right Cheesy
On a positive note, It seems syncing speeds have decreased now with everyone using a headers first client.
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CryptoHub market for skidoo is working:   https://cryptohub.online/market/CHAO/

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Hello All. I stored on cryptopia 0.00050113 CHAO. What do I do, how to get my savings back?
Thaks.

user balances will also be restored as far as i know. just need to wait until auxpow kicks in at block 825000

I wondered the same thing.  Hadn't been aware it was delisted until today. 

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Hello All. I stored on cryptopia 0.00050113 CHAO. What do I do, how to get my savings back?
Thaks.

user balances will also be restored as far as i know. just need to wait until auxpow kicks in at block 825000

I wondered the same thing.  Hadn't been aware it was delisted until today.  

Thanks

"That's what I wrote for support:
Unfortunately the CHAO wallet was recently the victim of a 51% attack during which we lost 0.003 CHAO. We allowed withdrawals of CHAO until our wallet was empty and have now taken the wallet offline.

The new developer has been in touch and we are working with him to top up our wallet and get CHAO relisted here. If the wallet does end up getting topped up you will see the balance of your CHAO as normal on Cryptopia.

Any further questions please let us know."

I update to new version

I updated too
the synchronization process is in progress
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I've been trying to upgrade to the 11.1 version in Ubuntu 16.04 but I'm getting the fun "must build with position-independent code" error.

After: make -j4:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[...]

  CXX      qt/qt_libskidooqt_a-bitcoinunits.o
In file included from /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/QtGui/qwindowdefs.h:37:0,
                 from /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/QtWidgets/qwidget.h:37,
                 from /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/QtWidgets/qframe.h:37,
                 from /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/QtWidgets/qlabel.h:37,
                 from /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/QtWidgets/QLabel:1,
                 from qt/bitcoingui.h:14,
                 from qt/bitcoingui.cpp:5:
/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/QtCore/qglobal.h:1067:4: error: #error "You must build your code with position independent code if Qt was built with -reduce-relocations. " "Compile your code with -fPIC (-fPIE is not enough)."
 #  error "You must build your code with position independent code if Qt was built with -reduce-relocations. "\
    ^
[...]

Makefile:4075: recipe for target 'qt/qt_libskidooqt_a-bitcoinunits.o' failed
make[2]: *** [qt/qt_libskidooqt_a-bitcoinunits.o] Error 1
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
Makefile:4047: recipe for target 'qt/qt_libskidooqt_a-bitcoinamountfield.o' failed
make[2]: *** [qt/qt_libskidooqt_a-bitcoinamountfield.o] Error 1
Makefile:4061: recipe for target 'qt/qt_libskidooqt_a-bitcoingui.o' failed
make[2]: *** [qt/qt_libskidooqt_a-bitcoingui.o] Error 1
Makefile:5454: recipe for target 'qt/qt_skidoo_qt-bitcoin.o' failed
make[2]: *** [qt/qt_skidoo_qt-bitcoin.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory '/media/qishtu31/ExtraDrive1/skidoo/src'
Makefile:6234: recipe for target 'all-recursive' failed
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory '/media/qishtu31/ExtraDrive1/skidoo/src'
Makefile:632: recipe for target 'all-recursive' failed
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

My configure line is currently as follows: "./configure --with-gui=qt5 --with-incompatible-bdb --with-pic".

In an effort to circumvent this and/or interpret the part in the build-unix.md documentation file where it has the instructions (inherited from BTC):
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Always use absolute paths to configure and compile bitcoin and the dependencies, for example, when specifying the the path of the dependency:

../dist/configure --enable-cxx --disable-shared --with-pic --prefix=$BDB_PREFIX

Here BDB_PREFIX must absolute path - it is defined using $(pwd) which ensures the usage of the absolute path."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I followed the steps here: ( https://altcoinkingdom.com/compile-bitcoin-core-from-source-on-ubuntu-16-04.html ) --downloading the berkeleyDB 4.8 version, etc up to the line:
 "./configure CPPFLAGS="-I${BDB_PREFIX}/include/ -O2“ LDFLAGS=”-L${BDB_PREFIX}/lib/" —with-gui"

which produced errors:
configure: error: in `/[directories]/skidoo':
configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
See `config.log' for more details

(the config.log has:
...gcc version 5.4.0 20160609 (Ubuntu 5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.4)
configure:3764: $? = 0
configure:3753: g++ -V >&5
g++: error: unrecognized command line option '-V'
g++: fatal error: no input files
compilation terminated.
configure:3764: $? = 1
configure:3753: g++ -qversion >&5
g++: error: unrecognized command line option '-qversion'
g++: fatal error: no input files
compilation terminated.
...

So with or without BerkeleyDB 4.8... I was wondering if there are some parameters I can pass at the terminal (as environment variables) before autogen and configure (or to configure) to get this built.
 
Perhaps it is some permutation using export in Ubuntu similar to:

export PATH=/usr/local/cuda-8.0/bin${PATH:+:${PATH}} # which adds /usr/local/cuda-8.0/bin to the PATH environment variable

or

export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/cuda-8.0/lib64 # which adds /usr/local/cuda-8.0/lib64 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH and is followed by:
sudo ldconfig # needed to implement revised LD_LIBRARY_PATH

 If I have to go in and adjust several files to make it work I'm fine with doing that too.   (I'm currently at step 8 of the guide https://cryptocurrencytalk.com/topic/2023-quick-guide-how-to-rebuild-a-qt-wallet-if-you-lost-your-coins/ that I posted earlier).

Thank you in advance for any help to get this thing built; hopefully it's not too elaborate a fix.  There is no issues tab on the github page so this seemed the place (rather than Ubuntu forums that wouldn't be helpful with altcoin info).

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September 18, 2017, 02:43:57 AM
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What the fuck.
Let's roll it back.
When did the attack start?

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the new wallet is not working i cannot find my wallet address?
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the new wallet is not working i cannot find my wallet address?

What actually doesnt work?   

Why nobody trades CHAO at cryptohub?

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in console bar,type
getaccountaddress ""

address show
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I noticed the piecharts on the other thread were down, something something externally hosted.
In case anyone found them useful:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v440/DrDaveTheHat/skidoopie1_zpslm1vmcp6.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v440/DrDaveTheHat/skid2_zpsuqyayagq.png

Total rewards (exc tx fees) ~0.00022/day.
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Also, I'm a bit confused about this 51%.
Per Bitcoin Wiki:
Quote
The [51%] attacker can't:
...
Create coins out of thin air
Send coins that never belonged to him
As I understand it, a 51% works by making transactions, gaining the benefit of the transactions, then undoing them by replacing the blockchain with a chain that doesn't have those transactions on.
So, if I were a 51% attacker, I could sell my CHAO for BTC, then roll back the CHAO blockchain so that I get to keep both my sold CHAO and the BTC ("Double spend").
Cryptopia seem to be saying that a series of unauthorised withdrawals were made from the exchange, which isn't the same.

Could someone set me right if I've misunderstood either 51% attacks or the details of Cryptopia's loss?
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So whats happened to all the coins on Cryptopia, have we just lost all of them? all coins have disappeared from the wallet section.
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So whats happened to all the coins on Cryptopia, have we just lost all of them? all coins have disappeared from the wallet section.

user balances will also be restored as far as i know. just need to wait until auxpow kicks in at block 825000
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seems like Cryptopia given up.

Thanks for contacting Cryptopia.

CHAO, among some of other coins, have recently been the targets of an ongoing series of 51% attacks that are hitting the networks without a substantial amount of hash behind them. If you’re not familiar with how a 51% attack works, rogue nodes commit blocks to the chain and then roll back the chain, invalidating what was already confirmed.

Unfortunately due this attack the majority of CHAO coins were lost. This is the reason it was delisted, and we opened the wallet for users to withdraw what was left in the wallet. The wallet is now empty so regrettably there are no more coins for users to withdraw.

As it is the Coin's team who are responsible for ensuring their network is secure, any further Complaints and support requests should be directed towards the CHAO team.

Kind regards,


Cryptopia Support.


I have half a bitcoin in CHAO and now what i've lost that for good or does anyone know that they still trying to restore peoples coins
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is 2 days,wallet windows not sync network???
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is 2 days,wallet windows not sync network???

try add this nodes:
158.69.126.193:36397
125.161.168.125:23457
73.75.116.191:34298



Trade CHAO at cryptohub!

https://cryptohub.online/market/CHAO/

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I'm not clear on what happened but I bought a lot of Chaocoin when it was cheap and can contribute some to either Cryptopia or to users who lost in the attack.

In my opinion the problem should be fixed reasonably first, maybe Cryptopia requiring a high number of confirmations for deposit then people who trade there agreeing not to accept crooked side chains. In that case the Cryptopia node would be authoritative and some people might have philosophical problems with that but it is better than a highjacker node being authoritative.

I'm not where I can run coin wallets at the moment but I'll defer to whatever infernoman says for the time being and make available what I can towards whatever he decides, as long as it looks sensible. If the same thing is going to happen at cryptohub what is the point of trading? Every time the hijacker wants coins he takes what he wants until they are all gone? It makes no sense.
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I'm not clear on what happened but I bought a lot of Chaocoin when it was cheap and can contribute some to either Cryptopia or to users who lost in the attack.

In my opinion the problem should be fixed reasonably first, maybe Cryptopia requiring a high number of confirmations for deposit then people who trade there agreeing not to accept crooked side chains. In that case the Cryptopia node would be authoritative and some people might have philosophical problems with that but it is better than a highjacker node being authoritative.

I'm not where I can run coin wallets at the moment but I'll defer to whatever infernoman says for the time being and make available what I can towards whatever he decides, as long as it looks sensible. If the same thing is going to happen at cryptohub what is the point of trading? Every time the hijacker wants coins he takes what he wants until they are all gone? It makes no sense.

I set 100 confirmations at cryptohub,  but yes it's not enough for be defended from hijacker.
To protect the coin we need some permanent miner with ASIC for this algo.  He should have at least 2-3% of net hashrate and mine all the time even if there are no waiting transactions in memory pool.  It means he will mine almost or totally without reward, since rewards 1,10,100 satoshi can not be used due to high relay fee.   1000 satoshi reward is very rare.
But community can pay to that miner by another way.

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Would changing the algorithm be something feasible and that would allow more security? (To the end of making it easier for people to mine this coin and support the network/coin.) I don't personally have an ASIC... I can only purchase bitcoin and use Nicehash or something if I want to mine this algo with any effectiveness.  Whereas I've found algorithms such as cryptonight, cryptolight, qubit, nist5, lyra2rev2, Zcoin's algo, and a couple others to be pretty easy to GPU mine).  Some coins with those algorithms have quite sizable network hash rates.   

Obviously noone's mining CHAO lately (the block explorer shows more than three days since a block was mined), so if the mechanism described in the Cryptopia quote is what occurred it is likely to happen again if there's not a sustained hashrate applied to this coin.  23-Skidoo seems kind of a victim of there being too many other coins out there and not a lot of attention paid to maintaining it (and the circumstance is somewhat bizarre because it's far scarcer than Unobtanium but the latter seems to be thriving).

This situation also points out the dangers of having too much coin parked at an exchange w/o at least a portion in a wallet under one's personal control/agency (and, in particular, a paper wallet for some of it).  Apparently an exchange can be an obvious centralized target for thieving cretins.

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Would changing the algorithm be something feasible and that would allow more security? (To the end of making it easier for people to mine this coin and support the network/coin.) I don't personally have an ASIC... I can only purchase bitcoin and use Nicehash or something if I want to mine this algo with any effectiveness.  Whereas I've found algorithms such as cryptonight, cryptolight, qubit, nist5, lyra2rev2, Zcoin's algo, and a couple others to be pretty easy to GPU mine).  Some coins with those algorithms have quite sizable network hash rates.   

Obviously noone's mining CHAO lately (the block explorer shows more than three days since a block was mined), so if the mechanism described in the Cryptopia quote is what occurred it is likely to happen again if there's not a sustained hashrate applied to this coin.  23-Skidoo seems kind of a victim of there being too many other coins out there and not a lot of attention paid to maintaining it (and the circumstance is somewhat bizarre because it's far scarcer than Unobtanium but the latter seems to be thriving).

This situation also points out the dangers of having too much coin parked at an exchange w/o at least a portion in a wallet under one's personal control/agency (and, in particular, a paper wallet for some of it).  Apparently an exchange can be an obvious centralized target for thieving cretins.

There is no problem with algorithm.  The problem is reward method.   Nobody will mine a coin that has 0 block reward and 0 transactions in that block (means 0 fees).
Solutions are:
1) increase block rewards, I think can remain different block reward amount but increase it, for example: 250 sat / 500 sat / 750 sat / 1000 sat / 1500 sat (instead of 0/1/10/100/1000).   After pay relay fee the mined amount will be 50 / 300 / 550 / 800 / 1300
2) decrease relay fee.  Last prices of the coin are very high, so with relay fee 1000 sat  the coin has more tx fee than bitcoin, nobody thinks that is not ok?

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Would changing the algorithm be something feasible and that would allow more security? (To the end of making it easier for people to mine this coin and support the network/coin.) I don't personally have an ASIC... I can only purchase bitcoin and use Nicehash or something if I want to mine this algo with any effectiveness.  Whereas I've found algorithms such as cryptonight, cryptolight, qubit, nist5, lyra2rev2, Zcoin's algo, and a couple others to be pretty easy to GPU mine).  Some coins with those algorithms have quite sizable network hash rates.   

Obviously noone's mining CHAO lately (the block explorer shows more than three days since a block was mined), so if the mechanism described in the Cryptopia quote is what occurred it is likely to happen again if there's not a sustained hashrate applied to this coin.  23-Skidoo seems kind of a victim of there being too many other coins out there and not a lot of attention paid to maintaining it (and the circumstance is somewhat bizarre because it's far scarcer than Unobtanium but the latter seems to be thriving).

This situation also points out the dangers of having too much coin parked at an exchange w/o at least a portion in a wallet under one's personal control/agency (and, in particular, a paper wallet for some of it).  Apparently an exchange can be an obvious centralized target for thieving cretins.

There is no problem with algorithm.  The problem is reward method.   Nobody will mine a coin that has 0 block reward and 0 transactions in that block (means 0 fees).
Solutions are:
1) increase block rewards, I think can remain different block reward amount but increase it, for example: 250 sat / 500 sat / 750 sat / 1000 sat / 1500 sat (instead of 0/1/10/100/1000).   After pay relay fee the mined amount will be 50 / 300 / 550 / 800 / 1300
2) decrease relay fee.  Last prices of the coin are very high, so with relay fee 1000 sat  the coin has more tx fee than bitcoin, nobody thinks that is not ok?


The relay fee should be decreased IMO, but that is a decision I'm going to leave up to the community. once merge mining is implemented correctly. There will be more than enough hashrate on the chain to keep it stable and secure with the current fee's and rewards.
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The relay fee should be decreased IMO, but that is a decision I'm going to leave up to the community. once merge mining is implemented correctly. There will be more than enough hashrate on the chain to keep it stable and secure with the current fee's and rewards.

Yeah, it would be useful if that relay fee was decreased for sure.  Simply looking at how much effort it takes to accumulate this coin mining it and then to have such a significant fee vaporize the effort away with any fund movement... not the most functioning thing.

It's awesome to see the chain moving again today -- although I wouldn't mind if there was a pool that allowed NiceHash mining of this coin as I don't have an ASIC available [yet?].  Wmikrut.com doesn't have a high enough difficulty to allow NiceHash to work (I tried).

Someday when I get more spare time I hope to get a wallet/daemon compiled and working again (the old 0.9 version worked adequately until there were no longer connections online of that version and most recently I got that fun "compile code with position-independent code" [something along those lines] error when I tried to compile it in Ubuntu and haven't found a fix yet by trial-and-error or searching Tongue  Huh   Angry ) .

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IS the DEV refunding people their coins what was lost on Cryptopia??
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I started mining at the http://wmikrut.com/, but I did not get a reward for 3 hours.
What's wrong with the pool? Or does he just steal the mined?

https://ibb.co/ftG8qb

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/chao/search.dws?q=zBgvXwjsg4kqT1P1aNM58vTJQk87JfQrtG

https://ibb.co/nNCniw
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I started mining at the http://wmikrut.com/, but I did not get a reward for 3 hours.
What's wrong with the pool? Or does he just steal the mined?



https://chainz.cryptoid.info/chao/search.dws?q=zBgvXwjsg4kqT1P1aNM58vTJQk87JfQrtG




You should read that is block reward of CHAO,  commonly is 1 sat, so you need a lot of time, I would say a lot of months to reach withdrawal threshold on any pool

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I started mining at the http://wmikrut.com/, but I did not get a reward for 3 hours.
What's wrong with the pool? Or does he just steal the mined?

https://ibb.co/ftG8qb

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/chao/search.dws?q=zBgvXwjsg4kqT1P1aNM58vTJQk87JfQrtG

https://ibb.co/nNCniw


You should read that is block reward of CHAO,  commonly is 1 sat, so you need a lot of time, I would say a lot of months to reach withdrawal threshold on any pool

I previously mined on this pool, with the same hardware

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/chao/address.dws?zCp5yNpnX2c2efreFGwkJ9osqexn2arKAe.htm
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I started mining at the http://wmikrut.com/, but I did not get a reward for 3 hours.
What's wrong with the pool? Or does he just steal the mined?



https://chainz.cryptoid.info/chao/search.dws?q=zBgvXwjsg4kqT1P1aNM58vTJQk87JfQrtG




You should read that is block reward of CHAO,  commonly is 1 sat, so you need a lot of time, I would say a lot of months to reach withdrawal threshold on any pool

I previously mined on this pool, with the same hardware

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/chao/address.dws?zCp5yNpnX2c2efreFGwkJ9osqexn2arKAe.htm

I steal nothing... those who know me here know that.

I previously asked you, in private, for your mining address so I can check logs and pending balances... you never replied.

Now I am asking publicly... please send me the address you mined with so I can investigate logs and pending balances.

I will NEVER ask for any kind of funds up front in a buy/sale of anything on bitcointalk.

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October 11, 2017, 04:13:37 PM
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I started mining at the http://wmikrut.com/, but I did not get a reward for 3 hours.
What's wrong with the pool? Or does he just steal the mined?

https://ibb.co/ftG8qb

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/chao/search.dws?q=zBgvXwjsg4kqT1P1aNM58vTJQk87JfQrtG

https://ibb.co/nNCniw


You should read that is block reward of CHAO,  commonly is 1 sat, so you need a lot of time, I would say a lot of months to reach withdrawal threshold on any pool

I previously mined on this pool, with the same hardware

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/chao/address.dws?zCp5yNpnX2c2efreFGwkJ9osqexn2arKAe.htm

I steal nothing... those who know me here know that.

I previously asked you, in private, for your mining address so I can check logs and pending balances... you never replied.

Now I am asking publicly... please send me the address you mined with so I can investigate logs and pending balances.



https://chainz.cryptoid.info/chao/address.dws?zQjWu9qBLSEiHzJBhCx5xYz5jp7D8x2egN.htm
At this address, I mine last day and at the moment :  zQjWu9qBLSEiHzJBhCx5xYz5jp7D8x2egN
And also to this address: zBgvXwjsg4kqT1P1aNM58vTJQk87JfQrtG
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/chao/search.dws?q=zBgvXwjsg4kqT1P1aNM58vTJQk87JfQrtG
https://ibb.co/ftG8qb

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October 11, 2017, 05:42:08 PM
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Not a problem... now I have something to investigate!
Give me some time to look into these addresses:

zQjWu9qBLSEiHzJBhCx5xYz5jp7D8x2egN
zBgvXwjsg4kqT1P1aNM58vTJQk87JfQrtG

Please understand, I hear literally a dozen times a day people asking 'where are my coins?!'
When I question further I nearly never get a response, or I get some information that leads nowhere and I never hear from them again.

The best one is when I asked for their address, I was told "You should know, it's your pool" and "just send me a list of addresses you have, I'll tell you which ones are mine."   If the person or persons who send me these message are reading this, your trick will not work.

I will fully investigate your addresses and get back to you with the findings.

I will NEVER ask for any kind of funds up front in a buy/sale of anything on bitcointalk.

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Not a problem... now I have something to investigate!
Give me some time to look into these addresses:

zQjWu9qBLSEiHzJBhCx5xYz5jp7D8x2egN
zBgvXwjsg4kqT1P1aNM58vTJQk87JfQrtG

Please understand, I hear literally a dozen times a day people asking 'where are my coins?!'
When I question further I nearly never get a response, or I get some information that leads nowhere and I never hear from them again.

The best one is when I asked for their address, I was told "You should know, it's your pool" and "just send me a list of addresses you have, I'll tell you which ones are mine."   If the person or persons who send me these message are reading this, your trick will not work.

I will fully investigate your addresses and get back to you with the findings.


Well, thank you, I'll wait.
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@wmikrut  Could you explain how your pools works?  How it can pay for mining if common block rewards are 1/10 satoshi and relay fee is 1000 for kb

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@wmikrut  Could you explain how your pools works?  How it can pay for mining if common block rewards are 1/10 satoshi and relay fee is 1000 for kb

It's simple... I do not use nomps payout engine... I have my own.  I set a payout threshold which is listed as s minimum payment on my site.  When that threshold is reached, the system automatically sends a payment for the total balance over the threshold.

You'll also note I had increased fees on the coin to 5% to keep up with tx fees.   In the end it breaks even since I mine on the pool too.

I will NEVER ask for any kind of funds up front in a buy/sale of anything on bitcointalk.

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@wmikrut  Could you explain how your pools works?  How it can pay for mining if common block rewards are 1/10 satoshi and relay fee is 1000 for kb

It's simple... I do not use nomps payout engine... I have my own.  I set a payout threshold which is listed as s minimum payment on my site.  When that threshold is reached, the system automatically sends a payment for the total balance over the threshold.

You'll also note I had increased fees on the coin to 5% to keep up with tx fees.   In the end it breaks even since I mine on the pool too.

Can make payments once a day? And make a page of statistics on the miners.
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@wmikrut  Could you explain how your pools works?  How it can pay for mining if common block rewards are 1/10 satoshi and relay fee is 1000 for kb

I did find a problem and I am working to determine what has happened.
zQjWu9qBLSEiHzJBhCx5xYz5jp7D8x2egN Shows 9 payments not sent and zBgvXwjsg4kqT1P1aNM58vTJQk87JfQrtG shows 5 payments not sent.

All payments will be sent for anyone else who may be missing payments as well as soon as I figure out what has caused it to bind up.




I will NEVER ask for any kind of funds up front in a buy/sale of anything on bitcointalk.

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I sell private keys for the amount of 0.00103014 chao for 10 btc
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I sell private keys for the amount of 0.00103014 chao for 10 btc

There's an exchange at https://cryptohub.online/market/CHAO/  (if there are no takers for your peer-to-peer trade).

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@wmikrut  Could you explain how your pools works?  How it can pay for mining if common block rewards are 1/10 satoshi and relay fee is 1000 for kb

I did find a problem and I am working to determine what has happened.
zQjWu9qBLSEiHzJBhCx5xYz5jp7D8x2egN Shows 9 payments not sent and zBgvXwjsg4kqT1P1aNM58vTJQk87JfQrtG shows 5 payments not sent.

All payments will be sent for anyone else who may be missing payments as well as soon as I figure out what has caused it to bind up.

Excellent! Good news!
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So,  Who can change wallet code and decrease relay fee to 10 sat or even 1 sat ?  I think it is unique solution  Undecided

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So,  Who can change wallet code and decrease relay fee to 10 sat or even 1 sat ?  I think it is unique solution  Undecided

Agreed, is there anyone that's actually emphatically against the relay fee being decreased?  (I haven't encountered an explanation of how the relay fees are transferred [to the miners of a coin?] so don't really understand what conceivable benefit there might be for an excessive relay fee. It's like transferring fiat between banks internationally using the SWIFT system [where those institutions take their cut based on historic and political-entitlement] -- which is a ridiculous situation for a crypto-coin.)

What would it take to make this happen? This seems like it would be a very simple adjustment to the code (probably changing one floating-point value on one line of the code, but it would seem likely that people would have to then go through the exercise of updating their code-base or wallet-version yet again... lucky me as my wallet hasn't been working anyhow for a month or so after version 0.9 stopped connecting to the network with my Ubuntu OS handicap/compilation-issues  Grin).   

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Has anyone received a payment from infernopool's CHAO pool?  ( https://yiimp.infernopool.com/ listed as SHA2562 algo ).  I mined over several days but all it ever seemed to reward was an increasing "Total Unpaid" amount.  At what balance should one expect a payment of CHAO?  By way of comparison, I was getting paid within 24 hours using essentially the same hashrate at Wmikrut's pool until that cratered.

I also tried both emailing the support email on the site and pming Infernoman here but have received no response.

The chain is still quite a ways from 825,000 -- when the merged mining is supposed to be possible (so anyone with a compiled wallet and the most rudimentary SHA ASIC seems to be better off solo-mining and not wasting their time on that pool if they actually want some of this coin).

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Has anyone received a payment from infernopool's CHAO pool?  ( https://yiimp.infernopool.com/ listed as SHA2562 algo ).  I mined over several days but all it ever seemed to reward was an increasing "Total Unpaid" amount.  At what balance should one expect a payment of CHAO?  By way of comparison, I was getting paid within 24 hours using essentially the same hashrate at Wmikrut's pool until that cratered.

I also tried both emailing the support email on the site and pming Infernoman here but have received no response.

The chain is still quite a ways from 825,000 -- when the merged mining is supposed to be possible (so anyone with a compiled wallet and the most rudimentary SHA ASIC seems to be better off solo-mining and not wasting their time on that pool if they actually want some of this coin).

Has anyone had a better experience with that pool?

I worked with this pool. the whole point is that the payments to your wallet are made every 6 hours for all balances above 0.01, or 0.001 on Sunday.
I have so far reached 0.00007363 CHAO, so I have not received payment for the purse yet and the balance is all on the pool.
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@wmikrut  Could you explain how your pools works?  How it can pay for mining if common block rewards are 1/10 satoshi and relay fee is 1000 for kb

I did find a problem and I am working to determine what has happened.
zQjWu9qBLSEiHzJBhCx5xYz5jp7D8x2egN Shows 9 payments not sent and zBgvXwjsg4kqT1P1aNM58vTJQk87JfQrtG shows 5 payments not sent.

All payments will be sent for anyone else who may be missing payments as well as soon as I figure out what has caused it to bind up.


Do you have any news about payments to my wallets?
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I worked with this pool. the whole point is that the payments to your wallet are made every 6 hours for all balances above 0.01, or 0.001 on Sunday.
I have so far reached 0.00007363 CHAO, so I have not received payment for the purse yet and the balance is all on the pool.

Please let me know if that works eventually...

I mined other SHA256 coins at first and had the payout set to output CHAO and the unpaid 23-Skidoo amount seemed to be building.  Only later I discovered where the Skidoo were hiding in Infernopool's interface and began mining it directly thereafter.  Perhaps that's a factor (there were no CHAO generated and held by the pool to be disbursed from the initial pooled mining and I was just wasting time only for the benefit of those other coins[?] and there may yet be CHAO reserved and eventually forthcoming from the more direct mining??).  I think it's important, more broadly -- and beyond my feeling possibly ripped-off --  to have some hashing maintained on the coin somewhere, as the Cryptopia story was supposedly that the coin was 51% attacked because there isn't sufficient hashing on the coin's network (yet??).

My "Total Unpaid" on the site is listed as more than 0.001 CHAO (0.00134128 CHAO --  and I'm pretty sure I exceeded that threshold on both a CHAO- and a BTC-basis last Sunday too); hence my concern.  Hopefully, this concern is misplaced and the 23-Skidoo will flow again.

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October 31, 2017, 12:10:52 AM
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CHAO explorer

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/chao/

Nostr:
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Are we still on sschedule to be relisted at Cryptopia after block 825000?

I sure am missing my CHAO that vanished which accounts for 1/3rd of the missing user balances. Sad
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November 13, 2017, 03:08:23 AM
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Are we still on sschedule to be relisted at Cryptopia after block 825000?

I sure am missing my CHAO that vanished which accounts for 1/3rd of the missing user balances. Sad

I had a fairly hefty balance myself. What led you to the determination that you have (or had) 1/3 of missing user balances?


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Does anyone know of any exchanges that have CHAO currently listed? Prices are INSANE and I would like to know where the data showing a high of $208,759 USD came from (according to Coin Market Cap on 2017 SEP 02) HERE!

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/23-skidoo/


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Does anyone know of any exchanges that have CHAO currently listed? Prices are INSANE and I would like to know where the data showing a high of $208,759 USD came from (according to Coin Market Cap on 2017 SEP 02) HERE!

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/23-skidoo/

Only my CryptoHub,  but has no trades https://cryptohub.online/market/CHAO/

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Does anyone know of any exchanges that have CHAO currently listed? Prices are INSANE and I would like to know where the data showing a high of $208,759 USD came from (according to Coin Market Cap on 2017 SEP 02) HERE!

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/23-skidoo/
As noted in the previous post, the coin is only trading at Cryptohub at the moment.

That coinmarketcap price reflects the trading at Cryptopia before things went sideways with 23-Skidoo/CHAO at that exchange.  The Cryptopia trading price varied between 25 and 50 BTC for 1 CHAO (still not existent) during the last few months that it was trading there.  The 30 or so BTC/CHAO price when trading was interrupted was actually at the lower end of the trading range (it had a floor/support at 40 BTC for awhile).

As can be seen from the block explorer (https://chainz.cryptoid.info/chao/), there have only been 0.283 CHAO mined since its inception in February 2014. If someday it gets there, there should/will only ever be a maximum of 23 total coins.  The price is perhaps not particularly insane if you consider that it is the same hashing algorithm as BTC, yet the block reward is an extremely small amount of CHAO--as described in the first post of this thread.  Mine some and try to sell it at a price that compensates for the energy expended given the alternatives that can be mined with the equivalent equipment; in fact, the price is probably too low (but "experimentation before refutation" as this is a quantitative claim that can be remuneratively countered if it is in fact incorrect.)

The coin is an extreme/outlier experiment within the crypto-space (with "unique" [Discordian] branding not far dissimilar to Cthulhu Offerings, Flaxscript, and Dobbscoin).  It's a collector's crypto as someone earlier in the thread pointed out.  The thematic underpinnings also parallel Albert Camus' book _The Myth of Sisyphus_ which deals with making meaning out of absurd things/situations and Viktor Frankl's book on much the same thing (from his experiences surviving the Auschwitz concentration camp).

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There have been no massive gaps in blocks for about a month https://chainz.cryptoid.info/chao/#!overview and 7 computers on the network now.

Trying to figure out exactly where the problem was, here are money supplies at various blocks


current 803083 0.28454655 CHAO

800,000 0.28345374 CHAO
700,000 0.24801114 CHAO
600,000 0.21258778 CHAO
500,000 0.17716408 CHAO
400,000 0.14172148 CHAO
300,000 0.10629779 CHAO
200,000 0.07085630 CHAO
100,000 0.0354337 CHAO

So if there has been no halving then coin count seems right? Is that correct?

So is what happened at Cryptopia that somebody deposited coins, sold them, then 51% attacked the transaction that sent the coins so the coins were never sent on the official chain?
In that case Cryptopia could mention the originating wallet that sent the coins and as long as those coins were boycotted then the coin would have integrity. That would require adding something like a 'colored coins' feature to the wallet maybe that would color coins by address and the person who attacked the coin would be holding the wrong color after that. If an exchange wanted to accept their wrong colored coins that exchange would be free to but would not have viability.

Is that what happened and does that sound like a reasonable solution if a dev can be found to paint the hackers coins?

Next would be preventing further similar issues, and it seems like making a very high minimum confirmation, plus a minimum block time to prevent several days blocks being released at once, etc.

Then Cryptopia's lost coins, which as I've said I will pay more than my proportional amount, since I bought a lot cheap, but there has to be others also willing to reimburse Cryptopia.

Can somebody peer review this^^^^^
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January 03, 2018, 11:19:38 PM
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Your account seems correct to me.

CHAO does not halve.

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Are we still on sschedule to be relisted at Cryptopia after block 825000?

I sure am missing my CHAO that vanished which accounts for 1/3rd of the missing user balances. Sad

I had a fairly hefty balance myself. What led you to the determination that you have (or had) 1/3 of missing user balances?


UPDATE FROM CRYPTOPIA:

The only way we will keep a 51%'ed coin listed is if the developer or community etc is able to remunerate our user balances.

We are down about 0.03 CHAO so if think that this is possible to send us we can keep it listed (of course we would also be able to provide you exact amount, our user balances and wallet balances etc.)

Because Cryptopia says they lost 0.03 CHAO.  My balance before delisting = CHAO   0.01115648

Which is actually more than 1/3rd of the total missing.

I can contribute to whoever donates AFTER i get my coins back, up until then I have nothing left to contribute.  

Edit...  I had initially posted the address I thought was mine here but it was actually Cryptopias deposit address (zTk3DDbXtdHXUSkdCrVfLx3kzGF7FHLuuQ)

My funds to Cryptopia were sent from
zHybjtZxDrwrmD4ew52TJWqje4yAnYmjzG
zFsx2iraBFRghe46K3yRdsqGLsumWBWRXy

Date: 8/1/2017 19:28
To: zTk3DDbXtdHXUSkdCrVfLx3kzGF7FHLuuQ
Debit: -0.01115648 SKIDOO
Transaction fee: -0.00000667 SKIDOO
Net amount: -0.01116315 SKIDOO
Transaction ID: c4a257068a3a15ef16e75e07bf7fc6ee4bd75b23b554307fd972e47902e08125-000

Praise "BOB"

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Is this the address where the coins stolen from Cryptopia exist?

#1 on the richlist with 0.0301 balance

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/chao/address.dws?zJRShzDnUiydzySSojYCPu3zA1JneXNHUg.htm

Withdrawn from

zTk3DDbXtdHXUSkdCrVfLx3kzGF7FHLuuQ (Cryptopias wallet)

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/chao/block.dws?770534.htm
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Interesting detective work; hopefully the trail leads to the address indicated and (if so) there is some way to paint those coins as belonging to a complete arsehole and thief.

So... we're officially past the 825,000 block (as of about four hours ago).  That should mean both that the AuxPow/merged-mining is enabled and that Infernoman might be prepared to pay some of the ransom that Cryptopia is demanding to be made whole again and consequently deign to allow trading to resume at their exchange (although I'd personally much prefer CHAO have a place at decentralized exchanges such as http://bisq.network/ or https://crypto-bridge.org/ ).

Meanwhile -- upon reaching the 825,000 block -- the earth didn't seem to shake and there wasn't a whole lot of hash that suddenly stepped in.  It seems to still be me (renting hash) and another miner at infernopool moving the chain -- as has been the case for weeks or more likely months.  I really do dig this coin; but, unfortunately have been quite altruistic and trusting as I have never once received a payment from Infernopool (whereas within 2-3 days of mining at wmikrut payments were received... but that pool went sideways and vaporized). Infernopool's interface simply stopped displaying additional accumulated balance four weeks ago.  I sent a personal message to Infernoman (to get information, a transfer, or an update) but haven't received a response yet; I presume a similar situation for my fellow-miner.  If I had an SHA-256 ASIC, I'd probably be solo-mining 23-Skidoo from time-to-time.

For more status reports:
About 3 or 4 days ago, Cryptohub.online announced they are dropping the trading of CHAO as the number of trades has been quite insignificant and it is being treated as a dead-coin (much like some might view another Blazr coin -- the _Dune_-themed Melange/Spice ).

I'm trying to get my crap together and get acquainted again with C++ and have also recently bought this fairly technical guide (with some code samples provided): https://www.packtpub.com/big-data-and-business-intelligence/mastering-blockchain .  I wonder whether CHAO might be forked to change the mining hash algorithm to something like Digibyte has (where some blocks are mineable by a GPU)?  As well, I do like the idea of Keccak/SHA-3 as an algorithm that might make coins more resistant to the eventual advent of quantum computers throwing a wrench in the works of things someday.

Also (and again), the extremely high transaction fee should be changed IMO.

Good luck to the people who had something approaching possession of coins on Cryptopia anyhow.

R.A. Wilson would be shaking his head at the absurdity of it all.  Grin

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Interesting detective work; hopefully the trail leads to the address indicated and (if so) there is some way to paint those coins as belonging to a complete arsehole and thief.

So... we're officially past the 825,000 block (as of about four hours ago).  That should mean both that the AuxPow/merged-mining is enabled and that Infernoman might be prepared to pay some of the ransom that Cryptopia is demanding to be made whole again and consequently deign to allow trading to resume at their exchange (although I'd personally much prefer CHAO have a place at decentralized exchanges such as http://bisq.network/ or https://crypto-bridge.org/ ).

Meanwhile -- upon reaching the 825,000 block -- the earth didn't seem to shake and there wasn't a whole lot of hash that suddenly stepped in.  It seems to still be me (renting hash) and another miner at infernopool moving the chain -- as has been the case for weeks or more likely months.  I really do dig this coin; but, unfortunately have been quite altruistic and trusting as I have never once received a payment from Infernopool (whereas within 2-3 days of mining at wmikrut payments were received... but that pool went sideways and vaporized). Infernopool's interface simply stopped displaying additional accumulated balance four weeks ago.  I sent a personal message to Infernoman (to get information, a transfer, or an update) but haven't received a response yet; I presume a similar situation for my fellow-miner.  If I had an SHA-256 ASIC, I'd probably be solo-mining 23-Skidoo from time-to-time.

For more status reports:
About 3 or 4 days ago, Cryptohub.online announced they are dropping the trading of CHAO as the number of trades has been quite insignificant and it is being treated as a dead-coin (much like some might view another Blazr coin -- the _Dune_-themed Melange/Spice ).

I'm trying to get my crap together and get acquainted again with C++ and have also recently bought this fairly technical guide (with some code samples provided): https://www.packtpub.com/big-data-and-business-intelligence/mastering-blockchain .  I wonder whether CHAO might be forked to change the mining hash algorithm to something like Digibyte has (where some blocks are mineable by a GPU)?  As well, I do like the idea of Keccak/SHA-3 as an algorithm that might make coins more resistant to the eventual advent of quantum computers throwing a wrench in the works of things someday.

Also (and again), the extremely high transaction fee should be changed IMO.

Good luck to the people who had something approaching possession of coins on Cryptopia anyhow.

R.A. Wilson would be shaking his head at the absurdity of it all.  Grin

I'll contact the dev, see what can or can't be worked out.  I'll offer a bounty to blacklist the #1 richlist address https://chainz.cryptoid.info/chao/address.dws?zJRShzDnUiydzySSojYCPu3zA1JneXNHUg.htm

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For more status reports:
About 3 or 4 days ago, Cryptohub.online announced they are dropping the trading of CHAO as the number of trades has been quite insignificant and it is being treated as a dead-coin (much like some might view another Blazr coin -- the _Dune_-themed Melange/Spice ).

That was often the case at Cryptopia too, often times I found myself to be one of just a small handful of traders.  I don't have any SHA-256 mining hardware so as I've mined alts through the years, I'd stuck to just buying CHAO..

What irks me is that up until a month before the topia CHAO heist, my coins sat in my personal wallet.
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Well at least there's less risk of a 51% attack now as the net hash is up at about 2 PH/s the last two days (someone's mining the crap out of the CHAO:  https://chainz.cryptoid.info/chao/ ).  At this rate, there'll soon be 0.3 Skidoo extant  Grin .

Although with no exchange evident, it'll be traded the old-fashioned way --  WTB/WTS-style.

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Is there information about the balances on the Cryptopia?
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or forget about CHAO?
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July 11, 2018, 09:57:14 PM
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CHAO talk is welcome in the Unobtanium telegram group, T.me/unobtaniumuno

We talk about UNO, altcoins, and Blazr2 coins.

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CHAO talk is welcome in the Unobtanium telegram group, T.me/unobtaniumuno

We talk about UNO, altcoins, and Blazr2 coins.

Falling Knife, if you set up a donation address to try to make Cryptopia whole so they can pay back the people who lost, as well as providing details of the 51% attack, including, from Cryptopia, the addresses that got the hacked coins, I'll donate what I can. It may be a few weeks after you post that I read it.
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can you give me my life back help me withe some btcoin to start trding 1NjCY6VLt5vF3iESVaTD6jcw4QfcQYkpnS  i have lost lot on chao coin buy it at 1.1 btcoin  Cry Cry Cry
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can you give me my life back help me withe some btcoin to start trding 1NjCY6VLt5vF3iESVaTD6jcw4QfcQYkpnS  i have lost lot on chao coin buy it at 1.1 btcoin  Cry Cry Cry

Are you trying to make money by working on coins? Airdrops? Microtasks? Signature campaigns?

Everybody has lost money on scams and hacks. If you are going to ask for donations you have to have a better story.

Below are some links.

https://coinworker.com/ not sure if they are still offering tasks https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60769.280

https://cointasker.com/

http://www.cryptogrind.com/jobs

https://ethlance.com/#/find/work

https://www.earncrypto.com/

Airdrops are probably the easiest way to make money, I've gotten a few fair ones.

https://airdropalert.com/

https://airdrops.io/

There used to be one great site for microtasks that paid well but folded. Soon there should be more sites.

1) Don't ever put all your money in one coin or exchange.

2) Don't ever spend money to join a group for multitasks, airdrops etc. If they aren't free to join they are crooked.

3) Stay away from hyip. Nothing pays several percent a day unless the people behind it are about to buy an air ticket.

Some more random links from Google

https://bituro.com/app/views/

https://coinbucks.io/

https://www.bitwage.com/

https://www.xbtfreelancer.com/faq

Faucets are an easy way to get small amounts of coins https://faucethub.io/faucets/BTC If you look for faucets for obscure coins some of them pay well.

Regarding CHAO, I'll wait til Falling Knife decides how to handle things.
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Accessing this website http://23skidoo.info/ I was redirected to a link with XYZ extension? Is this website still working?
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can you give me my life back help me withe some btcoin to start trding 1NjCY6VLt5vF3iESVaTD6jcw4QfcQYkpnS  i have lost lot on chao coin buy it at 1.1 btcoin  Cry Cry Cry
Regarding CHAO, I'll wait til Falling Knife decides how to handle things.
Cry

Anyone funding? https://chainz.cryptoid.info/
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If anyone wants to get the chain moving again...

addnode 45.79.72.31:10005
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The site is off and the wallet link too, are you still running something?
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Someone is wanting to revive this. Any current nodes available?
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yes want revive.
chain hang ok no problem.
someone set up seed node Grin
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I have the wallet but lack of addons ...
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