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October 02, 2024, 06:53:20 PM
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We were surely not expecting to see Marseille beating all the teams in the French league and losing the game against Strasbourg was not surprising for us. However, I didn't watch the game but when I was checking the game stats for the match between Strasbourg and Marseille I saw Marseille had much better chances and many more goal opportunities in this game which made me think Marseille could even beat Strasbourg.
Regardless of their match against Strasbourg, I think Marseille still has a good chance to race with teams like PSG on the top side of the table.
After three years we have won for the Strasbourg at home which is good because we have good start of the season for both sides with Marseille is doing impressive, and now they are having first defeat which bring them to the 3rd spot Strasbourg is also having 9 points from 6 games with one lost against Lens mean they are also going good, but quality difference is wide open as we have in French Ligue 1 for last few years between top teams and other teams which are having not strong enough in finances.

In this season we have top 3 teams on same level of quality and performance just because of this we are having good chance of fight for the title between them, but Marseille is still had good chance of comeback and do good next round is going to be interesting for top two teams as they are going to visit for strong challengers.

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October 02, 2024, 07:34:55 PM
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Leaving Dembele out of squad is going to have positive and negative sides for PSG.

The positive side: Maybe Dembele would learn not to act in an undisciplined way and be more obedient with his manager's calls.

The negative side: He was still contributing in a really good way. He got like 4 goals and 4 assists in 7 games. This would be a really important loss for PSG in the attacking line.  Sad

Some time ago, you would remember Mbappe was also left out of squad but it didn't take him a long time to be added in. The same thing might happen to Dembele as well.

https://dailypost.ng/2024/10/02/champions-league-psg-winger-apologises-to-luis-enrique-after-2-0-defeat-to-arsenal/

There are some important games that coaches shouldn't joke with. I don't know the gravity of the offense Dembele committed but he is a key player that shouldn't have been dropped in such an important match. His suspension should have been moved to a game in the Ligue One not against an European power house like Arsenal. According to some newspapers, the French player have apologized to Luis Enrique and have been brought back to the team. Hopefully, both Dembele and Enrique have learned some lessons from the sanction and loss.

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October 02, 2024, 08:29:40 PM
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I really pity Nice. PSG just lost to Arsenal, and a game where they didn't play as well as they should, which means the manager will be very mad, because Luis Enrique isn't a "nice" type of manager, he does get mad, and yells, and that's how he manages his teams, and I also think that he is going to make them train a lot harder and be ready for the Nice game.

So whenever a big club like PSG loses, they end up playing much harder next game up to make the fans think everything is okay. So if by some chance PSG beats Nice 7-0 or something, then nobody will really think about the Arsenal game, after all PSG will go out of the group stages, they will win most of the other games so what they need to loo kat would be just league and UCL group stage ending. A win like this would make them feel much better about it and not have any worries. This is why I am going to figure out a way to bet for a lot of games this game, I think 3.5 over seems good for me, I will do that.

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October 02, 2024, 09:05:30 PM
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We were surely not expecting to see Marseille beating all the teams in the French league and losing the game against Strasbourg was not surprising for us. However, I didn't watch the game but when I was checking the game stats for the match between Strasbourg and Marseille I saw Marseille had much better chances and many more goal opportunities in this game which made me think Marseille could even beat Strasbourg.
Regardless of their match against Strasbourg, I think Marseille still has a good chance to race with teams like PSG on the top side of the table.
Strasbourg are a strong team when playing at home so I am not really surprised by their win over Marseille.
Overall Marseille played better in this match but they were unable to score because Strasbourg played more effectively.
Regardless of this result Marseille are a strong team in Ligue one this season and they still have a big chance to compete at the top of the standings this season, this is their first defeat this season so we can't overestimate it either.
To be fair while Strasbourg could be strong, Marseille is much more strong and this is why everyone assumed that they would win. I am not saying they were a bad team, they are good at home, and this resulted with a win obviously as we can see.

However, Marseille spent so  much money and did so well until this game so everyone assumed maybe there was a chance Marseille could win with ease, or even if they would have hard time, get a win barely. None happened, Strasbourg ended up getting the win which is shocking to me but I hope things get better with time and Marseille could close the gap once again, losing these unexpected games hurt their chances to be second. Nobody other then PSG will be first of course, I always think like that, even without Mbappe.

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October 02, 2024, 09:09:00 PM
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Yes a win is a win but sometimes the performance of a team that got them the win matters because sometimes that could indicate if they were just lucky or deserving nevertheless they are awarded the complete point even if they were lucky or not but for the purpose of improving it becomes important they take more of the performance that got them the win because against some other teams they my not win with same performance, and yes not all the times favourites gets to win, sometimes they do loose games.
I have no doubt about that, in fact that victory has oxygenated things well for the team because they lost against Arsenal, and now they lost 2-0 is quite a lot, for a team like PSG it is an open score and leaves much to be desired, of course we are used to seeing PSG with a bad reputation where they win and win, but seeing it from the better point of view they have to improve I think they need big-time players, famous players who are good, in this case they really need an Osimhen, players who make the difference and who have a hunger for victory.

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October 02, 2024, 09:14:12 PM
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Leaving Dembele out of squad is going to have positive and negative sides for PSG.

The positive side: Maybe Dembele would learn not to act in an undisciplined way and be more obedient with his manager's calls.

The negative side: He was still contributing in a really good way. He got like 4 goals and 4 assists in 7 games. This would be a really important loss for PSG in the attacking line.  Sad

But this will be a lesson for both parties because after all, both PSG and Dembele must have introspected themselves in this case because as you said, PSG will indeed be a little difficult in the absence of Dembele even though there is still Doue who has a speed not much different but Dembele's role is still quite vital because of better experience so this is indeed a good lesson for Enrique but the decision to cross out Dembele is quite right even though he lost to Arsenal but when a player lacks discipline and is allowed in the end this will also have a bad impact on the club so why be defended and cross out even though it is full of risks it is a form of the right decision to show that PSG now does not look at players because no matter how good when not disciplined it is not really needed in the team.

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October 03, 2024, 07:04:06 AM
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Yes a win is a win but sometimes the performance of a team that got them the win matters because sometimes that could indicate if they were just lucky or deserving nevertheless they are awarded the complete point even if they were lucky or not but for the purpose of improving it becomes important they take more of the performance that got them the win because against some other teams they my not win with same performance, and yes not all the times favourites gets to win, sometimes they do loose games.
I have no doubt about that, in fact that victory has oxygenated things well for the team because they lost against Arsenal, and now they lost 2-0 is quite a lot, for a team like PSG it is an open score and leaves much to be desired, of course we are used to seeing PSG with a bad reputation where they win and win, but seeing it from the better point of view they have to improve I think they need big-time players, famous players who are good, in this case they really need an Osimhen, players who make the difference and who have a hunger for victory.

Actually, they have had good players in the squad, even those who are labeled as stars, but they still can't get the success they always want even though they are strengthened by star players. The problem is not only with the players in my opinion, but also with the mentality. They may have a very good mentality when they are in the domestic league, but that is not enough if they are in the Champions League. The coach must be able to create that, not only being able to create a good game but also being able to create something good outside the technical game, one of which is mentality. Currently they are handled by a good coach, hopefully that can improve morale so that they can achieve more not only in the domestic league.

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The coach must be able to create that, not only being able to create a good game but also being able to create something good outside the technical game, one of which is mentality. Currently they are handled by a good coach, hopefully that can improve morale so that they can achieve more not only in the domestic league.
I agree with you. I think PSG doesn't have a good mentality in European competitions. I don't mean they are a bad team. As far as I remember they managed to qualify for the quarter-finals of UCL last season so there is no doubt they are a solid team. But now we are talking about the condition of each important match in a difficult situation. Besides tactics I think mentality will also determine the outcome of the match. Some teams will experience a down mentality when in a losing situation but some teams with a champion mentality can create miracles by catching up on goals or even turning the score into a win. Honestly I haven't seen that kind of mentality in PSG. Some teams with a champion mentality last season were Real Madrid, Atalanta and Leverkusen who managed to get out of difficult situations in important matches several times.











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October 03, 2024, 09:47:33 AM
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I agree with you. I think PSG doesn't have a good mentality in European competitions. I don't mean they are a bad team. As far as I remember they managed to qualify for the quarter-finals of UCL last season so there is no doubt they are a solid team. But now we are talking about the condition of each important match in a difficult situation. Besides tactics I think mentality will also determine the outcome of the match. Some teams will experience a down mentality when in a losing situation but some teams with a champion mentality can create miracles by catching up on goals or even turning the score into a win. Honestly I haven't seen that kind of mentality in PSG. Some teams with a champion mentality last season were Real Madrid, Atalanta and Leverkusen who managed to get out of difficult situations in important matches several times.
PSG's defeat at Arsenal's home in the Champions League match is proof that PSG still has to be better outside Ligue 1 because being strong in Ligue 1 alone will not guarantee PSG to be able to become champions outside there. Even though Arsenal and PSG are two teams that have never won the Champions League during their careers, it must be admitted that Arsenal is a team that is much more consistent when playing at home so that they were able to beat PSG in that important match without any goals being scored in return from PSG.

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We were surely not expecting to see Marseille beating all the teams in the French league and losing the game against Strasbourg was not surprising for us. However, I didn't watch the game but when I was checking the game stats for the match between Strasbourg and Marseille I saw Marseille had much better chances and many more goal opportunities in this game which made me think Marseille could even beat Strasbourg.
Regardless of their match against Strasbourg, I think Marseille still has a good chance to race with teams like PSG on the top side of the table.
Strasbourg are a strong team when playing at home so I am not really surprised by their win over Marseille.
Overall Marseille played better in this match but they were unable to score because Strasbourg played more effectively.
Regardless of this result Marseille are a strong team in Ligue one this season and they still have a big chance to compete at the top of the standings this season, this is their first defeat this season so we can't overestimate it either.
Every team that plays at home must be more confident with being watched by many of their supporters and that happened to Strasbourg even though they knew that their opponent was quite tough for them but they did not lose their spirit and tried hard not to lose points and in the end they were smart enough to take advantage of the situation and scored the only goal in the match until the opposing club could not equalize and that was the first defeat for Marseille this season.
However, Marseille can still compete tightly to occupy the top ranking but it seems not for the first champion because I think Marseille can compete tightly to become the runner-up champion I don't think other clubs will beat PSG in the hunt for the League 1 title.

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October 03, 2024, 10:45:43 AM
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I agree with you. I think PSG doesn't have a good mentality in European competitions. I don't mean they are a bad team. As far as I remember they managed to qualify for the quarter-finals of UCL last season so there is no doubt they are a solid team. But now we are talking about the condition of each important match in a difficult situation. Besides tactics I think mentality will also determine the outcome of the match. Some teams will experience a down mentality when in a losing situation but some teams with a champion mentality can create miracles by catching up on goals or even turning the score into a win. Honestly I haven't seen that kind of mentality in PSG. Some teams with a champion mentality last season were Real Madrid, Atalanta and Leverkusen who managed to get out of difficult situations in important matches several times.
PSG's defeat at Arsenal's home in the Champions League match is proof that PSG still has to be better outside Ligue 1 because being strong in Ligue 1 alone will not guarantee PSG to be able to become champions outside there. Even though Arsenal and PSG are two teams that have never won the Champions League during their careers, it must be admitted that Arsenal is a team that is much more consistent when playing at home so that they were able to beat PSG in that important match without any goals being scored in return from PSG.
Yes that's right PSG are one of the best and strongest teams in Ligue 1 but they have to get out of here now. Because the best and strongest clubs from all over the country participate in the UEFA Champions League, the competition is high. PSG club must develop the mindset of strong performance against strong teams. Just as PSG excelled in Ligue 1, they will need to continue their impressive performances in the Champions League if they want to do well in the league.

In the match between Arsenal and PSG, PSG were ahead in all aspects but they could not do what they needed to do i.e. they could not score any winning goal in this match. After a good start by winning the first match of the Champions League, PSG suddenly stumbled in the second match which resulted in their defeat in the second match.

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October 03, 2024, 03:12:26 PM
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I really pity Nice. PSG just lost to Arsenal, and a game where they didn't play as well as they should, which means the manager will be very mad, because Luis Enrique isn't a "nice" type of manager, he does get mad, and yells, and that's how he manages his teams, and I also think that he is going to make them train a lot harder and be ready for the Nice game.

So whenever a big club like PSG loses, they end up playing much harder next game up to make the fans think everything is okay. So if by some chance PSG beats Nice 7-0 or something, then nobody will really think about the Arsenal game, after all PSG will go out of the group stages, they will win most of the other games so what they need to loo kat would be just league and UCL group stage ending. A win like this would make them feel much better about it and not have any worries. This is why I am going to figure out a way to bet for a lot of games this game, I think 3.5 over seems good for me, I will do that.
They are going to lose matches due to their poor effort and effort, you see why PSG can't when Arsenal can work hard.  They should have worked hard and put pressure in this match, but they couldn't.  I have said many times that companies look at their scope.  Arsenal players won this match by scoring 2 goals but PSG could not score a single goal and lost the match, while PSG is a good and strong team, they could not work hard.  Why would the company teach them when they are making a profit?  Don't bet too quickly but compare the opposing team and your team you are betting on and see which team is the best.  If I were to predict this match, I would put a lot of money on Arsenal because Arsenal looked sharp and performed well in this match.

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They are going to lose matches due to their poor effort and effort, you see why PSG can't when Arsenal can work hard.  They should have worked hard and put pressure in this match, but they couldn't.  I have said many times that companies look at their scope.  Arsenal players won this match by scoring 2 goals but PSG could not score a single goal and lost the match, while PSG is a good and strong team, they could not work hard.  Why would the company teach them when they are making a profit?  Don't bet too quickly but compare the opposing team and your team you are betting on and see which team is the best.  If I were to predict this match, I would put a lot of money on Arsenal because Arsenal looked sharp and performed well in this match.
You think PSG didn't put much effort in their game against Arsenal? Thn look well because I know that if it wasn't for the defense of the Gunners and their keeper, some wicked shots from Kolo Muani and others should have found the net. PSG performed as they should, the only thing was that they played Arsenal who are also good at what they do.
Desperation can be a deadly tool but if not handled properly, can cause big problems and in the case of PSG, if they don't act right, they can well on be beaten by Nice.

 
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October 03, 2024, 05:44:04 PM
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I agree with you. I think PSG doesn't have a good mentality in European competitions. I don't mean they are a bad team. As far as I remember they managed to qualify for the quarter-finals of UCL last season so there is no doubt they are a solid team. But now we are talking about the condition of each important match in a difficult situation. Besides tactics I think mentality will also determine the outcome of the match. Some teams will experience a down mentality when in a losing situation but some teams with a champion mentality can create miracles by catching up on goals or even turning the score into a win. Honestly I haven't seen that kind of mentality in PSG. Some teams with a champion mentality last season were Real Madrid, Atalanta and Leverkusen who managed to get out of difficult situations in important matches several times.
PSG's defeat at Arsenal's home in the Champions League match is proof that PSG still has to be better outside Ligue 1 because being strong in Ligue 1 alone will not guarantee PSG to be able to become champions outside there. Even though Arsenal and PSG are two teams that have never won the Champions League during their careers, it must be admitted that Arsenal is a team that is much more consistent when playing at home so that they were able to beat PSG in that important match without any goals being scored in return from PSG.
It is true that the champion mentality is very important and it should be the focus that must be improved by every coach who has coached PSG so far, we know if the squad they have is very strong but whether they are aware of it or not, with competition that is too easy like today will obviously also shape their mentality is very weak, in the champions league every team needs a strong and capable squad to compete,  but we cannot deny that the mentality in every crucial match in the UCL is also often a decisive factor for a team to win.
PSG defeat from Arsenal in the Champions League shows that they still need to improve their form outside of Ligue 1 and it will be very difficult to do if there is no increased competition in the Ligue 1 competition, In fact, we can compare the mentality formed from a team like Aston Villa who play in the current tight Premier League with PSG who continue to dominate Ligue 1, isn't it quite different?
Arsenal, although they have never won the Champions League, but so far the competition in the English league requires them to continue to show better consistency in the league and indirectly it is contagious to their performance when playing in the Champions League, and in contrast to PSG who is indeed too monotonous when they play outside the domestic league.
PSG  not yet shown the mentality to bounce back from a difficult situation even when they have a lot of great players in the squad, so it has been a barrier for them to be able to succeed in competitions like the Champions League all along.

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October 03, 2024, 05:56:14 PM
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Yes a win is a win but sometimes the performance of a team that got them the win matters because sometimes that could indicate if they were just lucky or deserving nevertheless they are awarded the complete point even if they were lucky or not but for the purpose of improving it becomes important they take more of the performance that got them the win because against some other teams they my not win with same performance, and yes not all the times favourites gets to win, sometimes they do loose games.
I have no doubt about that, in fact that victory has oxygenated things well for the team because they lost against Arsenal, and now they lost 2-0 is quite a lot, for a team like PSG it is an open score and leaves much to be desired, of course we are used to seeing PSG with a bad reputation where they win and win, but seeing it from the better point of view they have to improve I think they need big-time players, famous players who are good, in this case they really need an Osimhen, players who make the difference and who have a hunger for victory.
Osimhen is good enough for an executor in attack and that's what PSG needs right now, I agree with you to strengthen their attack, but if you look at too many star players like before I think they can't do that either, considering they have done the same thing before and they haven't produced a champions league trophy despite having as many star players as before.
At least now it is necessary to balance and have some great attacking and assistants, because that is what is most needed for now if you want to make PSG much better, seeing the match against Arsenal who are very good at counter attacks, speed and ingenuity at the back should also be considered.

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October 03, 2024, 05:58:01 PM
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They are going to lose matches due to their poor effort and effort, you see why PSG can't when Arsenal can work hard.  They should have worked hard and put pressure in this match, but they couldn't.  I have said many times that companies look at their scope.  Arsenal players won this match by scoring 2 goals but PSG could not score a single goal and lost the match, while PSG is a good and strong team, they could not work hard.  Why would the company teach them when they are making a profit?  Don't bet too quickly but compare the opposing team and your team you are betting on and see which team is the best.  If I were to predict this match, I would put a lot of money on Arsenal because Arsenal looked sharp and performed well in this match.
You think PSG didn't put much effort in their game against Arsenal? Thn look well because I know that if it wasn't for the defense of the Gunners and their keeper, some wicked shots from Kolo Muani and others should have found the net. PSG performed as they should, the only thing was that they played Arsenal who are also good at what they do.
Desperation can be a deadly tool but if not handled properly, can cause big problems and in the case of PSG, if they don't act right, they can well on be beaten by Nice.
PSG did not have a striker capable of breaking the deadlock in that match and how in the second half they dominated still no goals were scored. Regardless of the strength of the opponent I still think enrique's squad has a chance to win, and honestly I question enrique why not include asensio? he just sat on the bench
And the only drawback PSG does not have the mentality when facing a team outside league 1 that is equally strong they always seem to struggle,
Another thing related to playing against Nice in the domestic league PSG should have been able to win even though they acted as a guest team Nice's strength is below PSG.

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October 03, 2024, 06:09:39 PM
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Yes a win is a win but sometimes the performance of a team that got them the win matters because sometimes that could indicate if they were just lucky or deserving nevertheless they are awarded the complete point even if they were lucky or not but for the purpose of improving it becomes important they take more of the performance that got them the win because against some other teams they my not win with same performance, and yes not all the times favourites gets to win, sometimes they do loose games.
I have no doubt about that, in fact that victory has oxygenated things well for the team because they lost against Arsenal, and now they lost 2-0 is quite a lot, for a team like PSG it is an open score and leaves much to be desired, of course we are used to seeing PSG with a bad reputation where they win and win, but seeing it from the better point of view they have to improve I think they need big-time players, famous players who are good, in this case they really need an Osimhen, players who make the difference and who have a hunger for victory.

At least PSG also did not make many purchases in the last transfer market and with results like this, of course PSG still needs some new players to be brought in of course to make player rotation to support the team's performance to remain good in all competitions. Because after all, if the team succeeds in the domestic league with good dominance in several consecutive seasons then with impressive results in the domestic league, it is a must for PSG to also succeed in the Champions League stage.

Because after all, basically PSG is a team that has advantages in many aspects including squad, coach and also financial and maybe some other things. Thus, PSG must be able to become a team that can get good results in all competitions even though they don't get a trophy,  but at least PSG can show good results in the Champions League as a representative of the best team in Ligue 1.

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October 03, 2024, 06:44:51 PM
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Dembele definitely needs to learn to play better, not just his off the field shenanigans causing the trouble but he has been a player that caused so much issues for Barcelona and now doing the same thing at PSG as well. They trust him and give him the position and we know he is talented, we have seen him do talented things, we have seen him have great games, then one day he goes out and plays like he doesn't worth even 5 million let alone 50 million.

This is why he needs to figure out what's wrong with him, like maybe get some therapy or something and figure out why he has some bad games, it doesn't feel like it would be smart decision at all.

I believe we are going to see him get better, but I think it is going to be something which would be great. I think it is going to be something we can consider as important so we can definitely go check out what's going to happen, we are going to see how we can make some profits from PSG losing more games, because if Dembele returns, they will certainly lose some.

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October 03, 2024, 07:00:57 PM
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Leaving Dembele out of squad is going to have positive and negative sides for PSG.

The positive side: Maybe Dembele would learn not to act in an undisciplined way and be more obedient with his manager's calls.

The negative side: He was still contributing in a really good way. He got like 4 goals and 4 assists in 7 games. This would be a really important loss for PSG in the attacking line.  Sad

Some time ago, you would remember Mbappe was also left out of squad but it didn't take him a long time to be added in. The same thing might happen to Dembele as well.
It is just a disciplinary matter. It shouldn’t take too long before Dembele returns to the squad again. I am positive the message is now clear to Dembele that he cannot behave in a certain manner that is not acceptable by the club. His absence will affect the team’s performance but it is also good to maintain order and build players respect for the club values, Dembele is one of PSG’s best winger and Luis Enrique is well aware of the pros and cons for the club. I think the manager is more concerned about teaching Dembele that no player is bigger than the club.

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October 03, 2024, 07:11:11 PM
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I agree with you. I think PSG doesn't have a good mentality in European competitions. I don't mean they are a bad team. As far as I remember they managed to qualify for the quarter-finals of UCL last season so there is no doubt they are a solid team. But now we are talking about the condition of each important match in a difficult situation. Besides tactics I think mentality will also determine the outcome of the match. Some teams will experience a down mentality when in a losing situation but some teams with a champion mentality can create miracles by catching up on goals or even turning the score into a win. Honestly I haven't seen that kind of mentality in PSG. Some teams with a champion mentality last season were Real Madrid, Atalanta and Leverkusen who managed to get out of difficult situations in important matches several times.
It is difficult to find what PSG's real problem is in the Champions League apart from their mentality which is not yet good. PSG once failed in the Champions League final and they often failed in the knockout rounds, but their performance never improved from season to season. The main problem may be due to the quality of the local players and their mercenaries. They are players whose mentality is not good.

Real Madrid is very different and the team really has a good winning mentality. It is always difficult to beat Real Madrid in the Champions League even though they can actually lose. However, Real Madrid players have a strong mentality and their main squad is not built from many local players. Only Dani Carvajal, who has a Spanish passport, was in their main line-up in the previous match against Lille, while the others were non-Spanish players.

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