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But one thing I am trying to figure out is that all these complains everywhere in the forum, is it that non has reported them to authorities?
Many, many gamblers have tried reporting them to the authorities over time, but they were all unsuccessful primarily because it's a crypto casino without a proper physical location. They also have strong connections with bigger sites like 1xbet which is why they are able to evade the authorities pretty easily. can you share some proofs of them being reported?
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Fivestar4everMVP
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October 06, 2023, 08:28:05 AM |
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But one thing I am trying to figure out is that all these complains everywhere in the forum, is it that non has reported them to authorities?
Many, many gamblers have tried reporting them to the authorities over time, but they were all unsuccessful primarily because it's a crypto casino without a proper physical location. They also have strong connections with bigger sites like 1xbet which is why they are able to evade the authorities pretty easily. can you share some proofs of them being reported? LOL, sorry but if I may ask, do you work with the authorities?, if the proof of 1xbit being reported to the authorities is shared with you, what are you going to with it?, or how will it benefit you?. Just wanna know this as it will be completely useless if I for example should get into work right now to try to get a proof for you to believe that they were reported on several occasions, if after getting the proof and you are not able to do anything positive with it, then it simply means that my effort was wasted. So if you know there is nothing important you are going to do with the proof, then simply don't ask for it, just believe that many gamblers, most those who lost money unjustly did report the casino to authorities, but just as you've already been told, the authorities couldn't do anything since 1xbet had no physical address, and the people who run the casino were also unknown.
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October 06, 2023, 09:01:21 AM |
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But one thing I am trying to figure out is that all these complains everywhere in the forum, is it that non has reported them to authorities?
Many, many gamblers have tried reporting them to the authorities over time, but they were all unsuccessful primarily because it's a crypto casino without a proper physical location. They also have strong connections with bigger sites like 1xbet which is why they are able to evade the authorities pretty easily. In which country are they registered in? Because before you report to authority that will be effective, knowing the right place to report is the first step. Some companies are operating offshore and that really makes it difficult to report or hold them accountable. Even though they are crypto casino, if they are registered under any country, they can be reported. This case is really a helpless situation and I hope people do their due diligence before joining any platform.
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October 06, 2023, 12:12:46 PM |
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But one thing I am trying to figure out is that all these complains everywhere in the forum, is it that non has reported them to authorities?
Many, many gamblers have tried reporting them to the authorities over time, but they were all unsuccessful primarily because it's a crypto casino without a proper physical location. They also have strong connections with bigger sites like 1xbet which is why they are able to evade the authorities pretty easily. Reporting them to authorities won't be helpful because most of those casinos have virtual addresses and no one exactly know their physical address. The high-level authorities can still find those casinos but they don't really support gambling and that's why they won't take any action at all. The gamblers who lost their money have lost it due to their own wrong decisions. All of such casinos are reported in this forum and there are many accusations against against them on this forum but still the gamblers deposited funds in those casinos without doing any kind of research. I have seen a local TikToker from my region who was promoting 1xbit, and I have found many YouTubers and TikTokers of my region who promoted 1xbet. Those social media influencers really don't care much about their followers, they only care about the money that they get from those casinos. Even local authorities have never taken any action against those influencers in my region and that's why it's unthinkable to see high-authorities taking any action against them.
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October 06, 2023, 04:58:47 PM |
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But their great marketing team still puts ads out there on crypto-related sites so they can get new users from out there, but if new users find out about the 1xbit site on this forum or other review sites, they will definitely know that it is very dangerous play on this site because it has a bad reputation.
They have great connections(1xbet primarily) due to which they can afford to put out such ads on a regular basis and even get sponsorship deals with some of the biggest franchises in the world. Sadly, most gamblers will continue being lazy and not do enough research before investing there to be frank. Gambling rather investing, depositing in a casino as shady as this one is even a bigger gamble than the sole activity of rolling dices or spinning slots. It makes me wonder what kind of politicians are involved or associated with those behind 1xbet and his little brother 1xbit. If there are based in Russia or in Eastern Europe, I would not be surprised there were some Oligarchs using their connections to gather money. Anyways, there is not much we can do, but make aware those we know about the existence of platforms we cannot trust with a single penny out our pockets. There is a good reason they invest heavily on advertisement, because they cannot let their reputation to talk by itself. And the sad part is on which there are newbie gamblers who do end up on locking up their funds and ending up on having those endless begging. I do still even see their ads on youtube on which i dont know on how it do able to pass up with those platforms and able to make out some exposure despite on having those past and recent issues? This is why it would really be always that recommendable that you should really be that making up some research first and make it in depth so that you would really be that be wary about their past and present issues and peoples feedbacks and recommendations on which you might have save up your ass on facing up such issue. Both sites are 100% connected and there is a lot of proof suggesting the same. There are other sites like Melbet etc which are connected to these sites too. It's a huge scam organization operating in broad daylight.
1xbet also has a ton of scam accusations against them, but they aren't talked about a lot in this forum since it's a FIAT casino primarily.
Reading it up somewhere that they are sister company or run by the same team and just by looking on the name then it is really just that pretty obvious. It turns out that 1xbit is really focusing on crypto and the other one is on fiat thats why it isnt really that heard on that much on this forum which its totally same as you said. I was not even aware they had Advertisements on YouTube, but it is not surprising, keeping in mind of neglected YouTube can be by Google. If they allow scams and frauders to go around rampant then I don't expect them to do some research on whatever they allow in their ad space, as long as they are getting money from it. I would have expected to see some of those ads myself, since I usually post around here about my personal opinions about gambling. Perhaps these thugs are even paying premium for that advertisement space.
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October 06, 2023, 07:06:23 PM |
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I have seen a local TikToker from my region who was promoting 1xbit, and I have found many YouTubers and TikTokers of my region who promoted 1xbet. Those social media influencers really don't care much about their followers, they only care about the money that they get from those casinos. Even local authorities have never taken any action against those influencers in my region and that's why it's unthinkable to see high-authorities taking any action against them.
Seems your local TikToker not really care about this gambling casino site have been scam and how many user loss their fund with this site, depend on how much and excited commission earn from advertising its not problem for them for advertising although with casino or gambling site have been scam. But seems with this casino platform still active looking for an advertiser and TikTok is the best social media platform for promoting right now and looking with user have many follower for advertising this gambling site. Get difficult situation when still any influencer advertising with site have been scam and how to make bad reputation because high traffic after advertising actually with tikTok social media platform easily to get engage traffic with short time.
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October 10, 2023, 10:58:41 AM |
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But one thing I am trying to figure out is that all these complains everywhere in the forum, is it that non has reported them to authorities?
Many, many gamblers have tried reporting them to the authorities over time, but they were all unsuccessful primarily because it's a crypto casino without a proper physical location. They also have strong connections with bigger sites like 1xbet which is why they are able to evade the authorities pretty easily. or maybe their Money being used to silent those reports , we knew how Money can work out the cases or reports. In other words it sad to say but Authorities aren't that trustworthy anymore specially in gambling industry .
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October 10, 2023, 12:56:31 PM |
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I've gone through the news and I must say that this is very unfortunate, someone going for a simple checkup in one of the best hospitals in the Switzerland and from there, went into coma, and from coma, he died. very unfortunate indeed, and I only pray that God gives his family and relatives the fortitude to bear the loss. The man is said to have co-founded 1xbet, I actually don't know but I feel his death is enough to shut operations in the casino for a while, I wouldn't see or take this as a red flag yet, at least until after a week or so, but this will not stop me from saying that gamblers should take precautions and stop making deposits to the casino for now, at least , until everything settles and the operations in the casino returns back to normal again. Aside the above though, I am still confused as to how 1xbit and 1xbet are actually related.
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October 11, 2023, 10:42:55 PM |
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The concept of those services whose objective is to provide a place to find reliable reviews may have worked in previous days, but nowadays manipulating those reviews and shilling is a whole underground industry run for and by shady people. The only way I see a review webpage having some reliability would be if they somehow implemented Your your Client policies, to try to only publish reviews from actual users of those services.
However, obviously those KYC processes will likely turn away people who just wish to share their own personal experience with one or two products. The best way to stay save while choosing a casino or any service which deal with money is to ask for advice in other places.
Nowadays it is almost impossible to rely on any type of review as almost all the review site is full of fake reviews. So, I do not rely on any review site regarding gambling. Regarding gambling, I only rely on the reviews/feedback/comments on Bitcoin talk org. It is easy to know from the forum about the site.
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October 11, 2023, 11:32:29 PM |
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But one thing I am trying to figure out is that all these complains everywhere in the forum, is it that non has reported them to authorities?
Many, many gamblers have tried reporting them to the authorities over time, but they were all unsuccessful primarily because it's a crypto casino without a proper physical location. They also have strong connections with bigger sites like 1xbet which is why they are able to evade the authorities pretty easily. can you share some proofs of them being reported? LOL, sorry but if I may ask, do you work with the authorities?, if the proof of 1xbit being reported to the authorities is shared with you, what are you going to with it?, or how will it benefit you?. Just wanna know this as it will be completely useless if I for example should get into work right now to try to get a proof for you to believe that they were reported on several occasions, if after getting the proof and you are not able to do anything positive with it, then it simply means that my effort was wasted. So if you know there is nothing important you are going to do with the proof, then simply don't ask for it, just believe that many gamblers, most those who lost money unjustly did report the casino to authorities, but just as you've already been told, the authorities couldn't do anything since 1xbet had no physical address, and the people who run the casino were also unknown. Although I think we hard some time where gamblers may make a report against a casino that they deem ineffective and so on and go as far as submitting a complaint against them with the authorities even though sometimes, due to corruption, some of the complaints may never get treated and along the line the 1xbit team will be allowed to continue in their scamming spread which is highly contentious to gamblers who may not be aware of this scammer ethics all fo lure potential victims. But with a little search, one can find all that you need to know about this casino and how they have systematically scammed a lot of people along the way up and how also they have tried coming under false identity bit where all discovered and discarded.
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October 12, 2023, 10:05:07 AM |
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The concept of those services whose objective is to provide a place to find reliable reviews may have worked in previous days, but nowadays manipulating those reviews and shilling is a whole underground industry run for and by shady people. The only way I see a review webpage having some reliability would be if they somehow implemented Your your Client policies, to try to only publish reviews from actual users of those services.
However, obviously those KYC processes will likely turn away people who just wish to share their own personal experience with one or two products. The best way to stay save while choosing a casino or any service which deal with money is to ask for advice in other places.
Nowadays it is almost impossible to rely on any type of review as almost all the review site is full of fake reviews. So, I do not rely on any review site regarding gambling. Regarding gambling, I only rely on the reviews/feedback/comments on Bitcoin talk org. It is easy to know from the forum about the site. Well, it is easier to rely on reviews and opinion from people here, since we have a pretty established reputation system, which helps to consider or completely cross out opinions. Even though nowadays it is almost impossible to trust classic review sites, I believe there are chances for those platforms to redeem themselves by enforcing some kind of policy and system similar to what we got here in Bitcointalk. It could be something like a required linking between one's personal social media or even BTT account, so those with a reputation get more attention or are highlighted, while newbie accounts or bots do not get as much weight on reviews, as the former ones.
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Nowadays it is almost impossible to rely on any type of review as almost all the review site is full of fake reviews. So, I do not rely on any review site regarding gambling. Regarding gambling, I only rely on the reviews/feedback/comments on Bitcoin talk org. It is easy to know from the forum about the site.
Anyone who finds himself in this forum and who also is a gambler has solve 50% of his problems as regards to scamming and scams. It is very difficult for an old gambler who is a member of this forum to play in scam casino. The reputation system of bitcointalk is working wonders and saving gamblers. When you check well the majority of scam complaints come from newbies who may not have known how bitcointalk works. Almost every review sites now is paid. No one does a free review anymore and since you are paid, your conscience is somewhat biased and you may end up making a compromised review. I do not rely on review sites for anything.
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October 12, 2023, 12:03:33 PM |
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The concept of those services whose objective is to provide a place to find reliable reviews may have worked in previous days, but nowadays manipulating those reviews and shilling is a whole underground industry run for and by shady people. The only way I see a review webpage having some reliability would be if they somehow implemented Your your Client policies, to try to only publish reviews from actual users of those services.
However, obviously those KYC processes will likely turn away people who just wish to share their own personal experience with one or two products. The best way to stay save while choosing a casino or any service which deal with money is to ask for advice in other places.
Nowadays it is almost impossible to rely on any type of review as almost all the review site is full of fake reviews. So, I do not rely on any review site regarding gambling. Regarding gambling, I only rely on the reviews/feedback/comments on Bitcoin talk org. It is easy to know from the forum about the site. Well, it is easier to rely on reviews and opinion from people here, since we have a pretty established reputation system, which helps to consider or completely cross out opinions. Even though nowadays it is almost impossible to trust classic review sites, I believe there are chances for those platforms to redeem themselves by enforcing some kind of policy and system similar to what we got here in Bitcointalk. It could be something like a required linking between one's personal social media or even BTT account, so those with a reputation get more attention or are highlighted, while newbie accounts or bots do not get as much weight on reviews, as the former ones. All post coming from reputable people are valid reviews that's why they can rely on the statement provided by these people since for sure they already try to experience the service given by this casino to them. And we cannot see any biases since they don't have anything to protect that's why its good for many newbies to come up in this forum if they want to seek valid reviews so that they can be saved for any future risk that can possibly bring on engaging on this kind of shady casino. I personally point out this forum to person which I meet up online if they want to get more information about crypto and casino review since from here we can really help those people to know which of those platforms are reputable and which one are needed to avoid since there are post review on their threads stating about their service rendered to the people used their sites. There are so many reviewing sites open in the market but we don't actually know if we can get a valid review there since we can see those bad casino still good ratings and that is really awful to see.
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October 12, 2023, 12:21:48 PM |
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They are no longer even paying the deposit amount.
Their crime syndicate is getting worse with time probably due to the global economy crunch and anyone with a half-decent brain can see that much. Once 1xbet goes down, 1xbit will automatically get screwed too. Aside the above though, I am still confused as to how 1xbit and 1xbet are actually related.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5465425.0Above link is a recent one where @decodx points everything out nicely including how they are connected to crex24 exchange.
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October 12, 2023, 01:49:42 PM |
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While it is a sad news yet another burden to the players and the victim of their scamming . I want to extend my condolences to the family yet this will never take the issue of their effect to the gambling online business. Aside the above though, I am still confused as to how 1xbit and 1xbet are actually related.
There have been a discussion somewhere either in scam section or in Reputation about their connection and some proofs provided , I just can't dig it now but surely I have read it at least once in the past.
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October 12, 2023, 02:48:21 PM |
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There have been a discussion somewhere either in scam section or in Reputation about their connection and some proofs provided , I just can't dig it now but surely I have read it at least once in the past.
Here’s the list of thread link that discussed about the connection of this 2 casino: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230966.msg53977918#msg53977918https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5267172.msg58071653#msg58071653Most of the connection is the similarity of the layout, sharing of wallet address and the parent company. They are both dodgy and behave the same way on dealing scams especially their throw away casino brand like Kawbet.
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October 12, 2023, 03:45:09 PM |
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I want to extend my condolences to the family yet this will never take the issue of their effect to the gambling online business.
Exactly. Their sins destroyed the lives of many gamblers from around the world and they don't deserve forgiveness. Most of the connection is the similarity of the layout, sharing of wallet address and the parent company. They are both dodgy and behave the same way on dealing scams especially their throw away casino brand like Kawbet.
They are connected to other scam sites like Melbet etc too. There is a ton of proof indicating that they are all connected and 1xbet is the parent company which is why I find it odd seeing so many people asking proof of the same.
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October 12, 2023, 04:13:04 PM |
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Nowadays it is almost impossible to rely on any type of review as almost all the review site is full of fake reviews. So, I do not rely on any review site regarding gambling. Regarding gambling, I only rely on the reviews/feedback/comments on Bitcoin talk org. It is easy to know from the forum about the site.
Anyone who finds himself in this forum and who also is a gambler has solve 50% of his problems as regards to scamming and scams. It is very difficult for an old gambler who is a member of this forum to play in scam casino. The reputation system of bitcointalk is working wonders and saving gamblers. When you check well the majority of scam complaints come from newbies who may not have known how bitcointalk works. Almost every review sites now is paid. No one does a free review anymore and since you are paid, your conscience is somewhat biased and you may end up making a compromised review. I do not rely on review sites for anything. True. I myself also rely in this forum if we are talking about scam casinos. There are numbers of forum members who likes to do their own investigation about casino especially if someone experienced being scammed by a scam casino. This is an open forum where everyone can post their own opinion that's why some newbies or paid people who are using newbie account who are staining other casino, I guess those who are doing fake accusations are just their competitors. Those accusations are being ignored or criticized especially if the proofs that is on the accusation is not enough. This is why I like this forum because forum members are the one who decides if it is a scam or not based on the evidences, it's like a court but members are the judges.
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Odusko
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October 12, 2023, 04:42:50 PM |
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Nowadays it is almost impossible to rely on any type of review as almost all the review site is full of fake reviews. So, I do not rely on any review site regarding gambling. Regarding gambling, I only rely on the reviews/feedback/comments on Bitcoin talk org. It is easy to know from the forum about the site.
Anyone who finds himself in this forum and who also is a gambler has solve 50% of his problems as regards to scamming and scams. It is very difficult for an old gambler who is a member of this forum to play in scam casino. The reputation system of bitcointalk is working wonders and saving gamblers. When you check well the majority of scam complaints come from newbies who may not have known how bitcointalk works. Almost every review sites now is paid. No one does a free review anymore and since you are paid, your conscience is somewhat biased and you may end up making a compromised review. I do not rely on review sites for anything. True. I myself also rely in this forum if we are talking about scam casinos. There are numbers of forum members who likes to do their own investigation about casino especially if someone experienced being scammed by a scam casino. This is an open forum where everyone can post their own opinion that's why some newbies or paid people who are using newbie account who are staining other casino, I guess those who are doing fake accusations are just their competitors. Those accusations are being ignored or criticized especially if the proofs that is on the accusation is not enough. This is why I like this forum because forum members are the one who decides if it is a scam or not based on the evidences, it's like a court but members are the judges. This forum have helped many newbies to gain more insight into what the reviews will not offer because 1xbit bought all the positive reviews that their got on all the review sites, and this is not only limited to 1xbit alone, other scam sites too use this system to lure gullible people into believing in those results from those site and there after fall victim to this scheme. Also some of the newbies were already scammed before locating this forum and most of them just came in while looking for ways to gain the attention of the 1xbit team not knowing that they don't respond to complaints.
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