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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.4%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.6%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
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January 13, 2024, 07:36:22 PM

De Bruyne's entry made the difference in the game and scored the equalizer in the 74th minute.
After that Man City's attack was more aggressive which forced Newcastle to pile up a lot of players in defense.
The ball is always directed at De Bruyne to create opportunities, on the other hand, Newcastle is just waiting for a counter attack to create opportunities.
City's victory moved them up to 2nd place in the EPL standings. Only 2 points difference from Liverpool. De Bruyne's entry really changed the situation which had a big influence on Man City's victory today.

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January 13, 2024, 07:36:34 PM

It’s been an interesting turn of event so far in the Newcastle vs Manchester City fixture. Where we have had the league favorites take the lead and in no time, lose that lead to Newcastle United. Manchester City has been ridden with errors after errors. Enderson had his round of errors before catching an injury and was substituted from the pitch, S. Ortega came in and you could see him making similar mistakes as Enderson.
Newcastle United continues to surprise me, some of there energy sterns from them having to play from a home side but, a part of me still tells me to be weary of Manchester United. You can’t really write them off and it would be interesting to see what changes Pep would bring on in the second half.
It was surprising because within a few minutes of the first half Newcastle reversed the score.
The second half has started and Pep Guardiola doesn't want Manchester City's defense to be as bad as the first half.

If Newcastle wins and they deserve to get past Manchester United. For me, that is the rule because Newcastle will have more points than Manchester United if they are able to win until the end. Considering that there are still 45 minutes left in the match, it is not certain that Newcastle will win and I want this match to end in a draw. In this second half, Pep will issue his best strategy for Manchester City players to practice.

No, Newcastle won't win if they don't change the way they play. There were a lot of players stacked in the defensive area which allowed Manchester City to explore some errors, but that's how ordinary teams beat the favorites. There was nothing good about the way Newcastle maintained their lead, so this must be exploited well by Manchester City.

Now De Bruyne is the starter and replaces Bernardo Silva. It is hoped that he can improve the quality of attacks and also be a solution to the difficulty of penetrating Newcastle's defense. Several missed chances so far and perhaps Manchester City should keep their psychology.
DE Bruyne came from injury and three minutes after his entrance he did something magical by equalizing the goal which all most all Manchester city strikers tried scoring but wasn't possible.

Manchester city has really missed DE Bruyne presence in the games and that was why they were not able to win consistently. I can say that hope has come back to Manchester city as it is possible for them to win Newcastle now that De Bruyne is in the game.

It is 2-2 draw now and I believe one side will score again to win the match.
DE Bruyne is truly back. This was really a shocking goal that surprised a lot of people, including me, because the game is going in a hot hand with Newcastle, although the game is still ongoing, so the victory most likely would be for a single term between the two of them, which is either Manchester City or Newcastle.
 
Although, to me, Manchester City are doing well in the game so far, you can’t say since the game is still ongoing that Newcastle are also trying their best. Since football is unpredictable, nothing can be said now because the match might end in a draw; that is just the game.
 
 I just noticed that Manchester City has added one more goal, making the score 2–3. I can say this is the winning goal because it is almost the end of the game, but Newcastle can still score even though it is in the last minute of the game, so we are going to continue watching the game.

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January 13, 2024, 07:37:14 PM

Never say never in football. It’s full time and Manchester wins Newcastle United by narrow margin 2-3.

I don’t know why Manchester City always struggle against Newcastle United. I said it before the game, Newcastle has no chance of winning unless football happens (element of surprise) but watching the game, it seemed Manchester City were the underdogs in this feature. They were lucky to get a last minute goal to secure the win.
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January 13, 2024, 07:41:43 PM

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Kevin De Bruyne’s comeback in the Premier League will be a good one for Manchester City, he is an important player in the team because his presence in the team mean a lot and he has just scored the equalizer for Manchester City just five minutes after his comeback from injury; this is a good news for Manchester City because without him today, they will struggle in this match since  Haaland is not in the match.

Nevertheless, Newcastle United can defend the match till the end even though it will be hard because Manchester City is now putting too much pressure in the game because they really don’t wants to draw the match.
The match ended with a score of 3-2 in favor of Man City, Oscar Bobb, who came on to replace Doku, managed to score a goal in the added minute of time. A very dramatic match, and De Bruyne again proved that he is the heart of City game. I thought previously this match would end in a draw, Pep decision to rotate players proved to be effective, he is truly a genius at reading the situation.

For the time being, the additional 3 points put Man City in second place in the standings, 2 points behind Liverpool. Newcastle again suffered 3 defeats in a row, and is now ranked 10th in the standings. However, I admit that Newcastle managed to put up a good fight, but they were unlucky when it came to the final whistle. On the other hand, it is very likely that Aston Villa will again shift City position tomorrow, if Everton succeeds in forcing a draw then City will be at an advantage in the current competition.

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January 13, 2024, 07:43:05 PM

No, Newcastle won't win if they don't change the way they play. There were a lot of players stacked in the defensive area which allowed Manchester City to explore some errors, but that's how ordinary teams beat the favorites. There was nothing good about the way Newcastle maintained their lead, so this must be exploited well by Manchester City.

Now De Bruyne is the starter and replaces Bernardo Silva. It is hoped that he can improve the quality of attacks and also be a solution to the difficulty of penetrating Newcastle's defense. Several missed chances so far and perhaps Manchester City should keep their psychology.
DE Bruyne came from injury and three minutes after his entrance he did something magical by equalizing the goal which all most all Manchester city strikers tried scoring but wasn't possible.

Manchester city has really missed DE Bruyne presence in the games and that was why they were not able to win consistently. I can say that hope has come back to Manchester city as it is possible for them to win Newcastle now that De Bruyne is in the game.

It is 2-2 draw now and I believe one side will score again to win the match.

Kevin De Bruyne, yes that's him. 1 goal and 1 assist made Manchester City take the lead in the second half and it was something special when he got playing minutes. As I said, Newcastle will not win the game when they are just intent on defending completely throughout the second half and fortunately Manchester City really took their chances well.

The entry of Kevin De Bruyne brought many changes to Manchester City's game as a whole. He is a leader or field general who can make the team play more focused and calm. Evidently, he was able to change the course of the match and recorded 1 assist and 1 goal to win 3 points from Newcastle.

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January 13, 2024, 07:43:47 PM

It’s been an interesting turn of event so far in the Newcastle vs Manchester City fixture. Where we have had the league favorites take the lead and in no time, lose that lead to Newcastle United. Manchester City has been ridden with errors after errors. Enderson had his round of errors before catching an injury and was substituted from the pitch, S. Ortega came in and you could see him making similar mistakes as Enderson.
Newcastle United continues to surprise me, some of there energy sterns from them having to play from a home side but, a part of me still tells me to be weary of Manchester United. You can’t really write them off and it would be interesting to see what changes Pep would bring on in the second half.
It was surprising because within a few minutes of the first half Newcastle reversed the score.
The second half has started and Pep Guardiola doesn't want Manchester City's defense to be as bad as the first half.

If Newcastle wins and they deserve to get past Manchester United. For me, that is the rule because Newcastle will have more points than Manchester United if they are able to win until the end. Considering that there are still 45 minutes left in the match, it is not certain that Newcastle will win and I want this match to end in a draw. In this second half, Pep will issue his best strategy for Manchester City players to practice.

No, Newcastle won't win if they don't change the way they play. There were a lot of players stacked in the defensive area which allowed Manchester City to explore some errors, but that's how ordinary teams beat the favorites. There was nothing good about the way Newcastle maintained their lead, so this must be exploited well by Manchester City.

Now De Bruyne is the starter and replaces Bernardo Silva. It is hoped that he can improve the quality of attacks and also be a solution to the difficulty of penetrating Newcastle's defense. Several missed chances so far and perhaps Manchester City should keep their psychology.
DE Bruyne came from injury and three minutes after his entrance he did something magical by equalizing the goal which all most all Manchester city strikers tried scoring but wasn't possible.

Manchester city has really missed DE Bruyne presence in the games and that was why they were not able to win consistently. I can say that hope has come back to Manchester city as it is possible for them to win Newcastle now that De Bruyne is in the game.

It is 2-2 draw now and I believe one side will score again to win the match.
Kevin De Bruyne's effect has earned Manchester City the whole 3 points against Newcastle United, and Manchester City has entered second place in the Premier League table. With the 2-3 defeat against Newcastle United, Manchester City has recorded a third consecutive win in the premier league.

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January 13, 2024, 07:48:15 PM


Chelsea really seemed to have difficulty maintaining the 1 goal lead they had obtained at the end of the first half from a penalty kick. It is indeed very sad to see Chelsea having to fight so hard to beat Fullham. Even without the opportunity for a penalty kick, this match would probably only end in a draw.

But still I am happy with the victory achieved by Chelsea in this match. Because no matter how good a squad a club has, they will only be considered good if they succeed in winning the match. If they have quality but don't win then it's a waste. So I appreciate Chelsea even though they had to fight harder but in the end they were able to win.

And I also hope that Chelsea can continue to get good results in the next matches. But in the EPL, it looks like Chelsea will have difficulties in the next match and might lose points. Because what they will face is Liverpool. And Liverpool are in the best condition this season. But in the match against Chelsea, it looks like Liverpool will still play without M. Salah. But still Liverpool without M. Salah is still better than Chelsea.
Well Fulham are Chelsea’s West London Rivals and yes the intensity in the match was expected. Fulham are a pretty good team and they’re in the semis of the Carabao cup. Chelsea aren’t really good so the struggle they had was expected to an extent. Though we must commend them for being able to maintain the lead and take home all 3 points.

 Onto the next match, Liverpool who are without star man, Salah. I think Chelsea would try to get something off this match especially as we’ve seen how they turn up and play big teams so well. Well Chelsea will really need some serious work to do so as to be able to get something off Liverpool who are league leaders. Also I think without their key player the Liverpool is still going to be very strong and tough.

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January 13, 2024, 08:02:42 PM

No, Newcastle won't win if they don't change the way they play. There were a lot of players stacked in the defensive area which allowed Manchester City to explore some errors, but that's how ordinary teams beat the favorites. There was nothing good about the way Newcastle maintained their lead, so this must be exploited well by Manchester City.

Now De Bruyne is the starter and replaces Bernardo Silva. It is hoped that he can improve the quality of attacks and also be a solution to the difficulty of penetrating Newcastle's defense. Several missed chances so far and perhaps Manchester City should keep their psychology.
DE Bruyne came from injury and three minutes after his entrance he did something magical by equalizing the goal which all most all Manchester city strikers tried scoring but wasn't possible.

Manchester city has really missed DE Bruyne presence in the games and that was why they were not able to win consistently. I can say that hope has come back to Manchester city as it is possible for them to win Newcastle now that De Bruyne is in the game.

It is 2-2 draw now and I believe one side will score again to win the match.

Kevin De Bruyne, yes that's him. 1 goal and 1 assist made Manchester City take the lead in the second half and it was something special when he got playing minutes. As I said, Newcastle will not win the game when they are just intent on defending completely throughout the second half and fortunately Manchester City really took their chances well.

The entry of Kevin De Bruyne brought many changes to Manchester City's game as a whole. He is a leader or field general who can make the team play more focused and calm. Evidently, he was able to change the course of the match and recorded 1 assist and 1 goal to win 3 points from Newcastle.
Just like I predicted, Manchester City still fought back into the game and it is the big man Kelvin De Bruyne that rose up to the big occasion. Like I earlier said, Pep Guardiola isn't new to high expecting games like the one they played against Newcastle tonight. He knew what the team really needed to come back to life again and that was why Kelvin De Bruyne was introduced which the Belgian came on and did what he knows how to do best.

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Last season, Arsenal lost the title narrowly and this season they may lose their shot at the title again because of injuries. Arsenal is lacking squad depth. They do not have enough options on the bench, Trossard is not in form, Saka is fatigued, Martinelli is also not in form. For a team that is contending for the league title, they need to go to the market and strengthen their squad. Arteta need to get a goal scorer and an attacking midfielder. They need to do a lot of recruitment to fill in those positions. It will be a very big problem for the Arsenal side if they do not make these moves.
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Chelsea really seemed to have difficulty maintaining the 1 goal lead they had obtained at the end of the first half from a penalty kick. It is indeed very sad to see Chelsea having to fight so hard to beat Fullham. Even without the opportunity for a penalty kick, this match would probably only end in a draw.
The good news about the game is that Chelsea secured three points that have moved them to eighth position. Yeah, the penalty was the only saving grace that the Blues had but we should also accept that they also created some great opportunities that would have extended the lead. I don't think that we should underrate any team in the premier league because all of them have what it takes to give a big team a fight. However, Chelsea should count themselves lucky to have a goalkeeper like Djordje Petrovic for several saves he made.

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But still I am happy with the victory achieved by Chelsea in this match. Because no matter how good a squad a club has, they will only be considered good if they succeed in winning the match. If they have quality but don't win then it's a waste. So I appreciate Chelsea even though they had to fight harder but in the end they were able to win.
This win was a great relief to coach Mauricio Pochettino and the entire team. It brings some level of hope that Chelsea can at least make it to the top four position. Beautiful football is not necessarily, what clubs need is good results and that is exactly what Chelsea got today.

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And I also hope that Chelsea can continue to get good results in the next matches. But in the EPL, it looks like Chelsea will have difficulties in the next match and might lose points. Because what they will face is Liverpool. And Liverpool are in the best condition this season. But in the match against Chelsea, it looks like Liverpool will still play without M. Salah. But still Liverpool without M. Salah is still better than Chelsea.
The Blues' performance has been inconsistent and you cannot predict their games. Chelsea's last game against Liverpool ended in a draw and I can assume that Chelsea has improved more than their first encounter. Liverpool is also in great form which could make the game difficult to predict. However, Liverpool remains the favorite to win the game.

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January 13, 2024, 08:20:58 PM

No, Newcastle won't win if they don't change the way they play. There were a lot of players stacked in the defensive area which allowed Manchester City to explore some errors, but that's how ordinary teams beat the favorites. There was nothing good about the way Newcastle maintained their lead, so this must be exploited well by Manchester City.

Now De Bruyne is the starter and replaces Bernardo Silva. It is hoped that he can improve the quality of attacks and also be a solution to the difficulty of penetrating Newcastle's defense. Several missed chances so far and perhaps Manchester City should keep their psychology.
DE Bruyne came from injury and three minutes after his entrance he did something magical by equalizing the goal which all most all Manchester city strikers tried scoring but wasn't possible.

Manchester city has really missed DE Bruyne presence in the games and that was why they were not able to win consistently. I can say that hope has come back to Manchester city as it is possible for them to win Newcastle now that De Bruyne is in the game.

It is 2-2 draw now and I believe one side will score again to win the match.

Kevin De Bruyne, yes that's him. 1 goal and 1 assist made Manchester City take the lead in the second half and it was something special when he got playing minutes. As I said, Newcastle will not win the game when they are just intent on defending completely throughout the second half and fortunately Manchester City really took their chances well.

The entry of Kevin De Bruyne brought many changes to Manchester City's game as a whole. He is a leader or field general who can make the team play more focused and calm. Evidently, he was able to change the course of the match and recorded 1 assist and 1 goal to win 3 points from Newcastle.
Just like I predicted, Manchester City still fought back into the game and it is the big man Kelvin De Bruyne that rose up to the big occasion. Like I earlier said, Pep Guardiola isn't new to high expecting games like the one they played against Newcastle tonight. He knew what the team really needed to come back to life again and that was why Kelvin De Bruyne was introduced which the Belgian came on and did what he knows how to do best.
The two substitutes made by Pep brought a difference to the game, and City key player behind the success of the club, Kelvin De Bruyne came in and turn the game around from one goal down to 3-2 victory. It will be a sad one for Newcastle who tried their best to see if they could win the match, but they got disappointed as they couldn't even share points.

Manchester city must have come back to their winning form as the only man who is their strength is back from injury, and he showed how important he is to the club today. De Bryne is back and City is back to their feet.

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DE Bruyne came from injury and three minutes after his entrance he did something magical by equalizing the goal which all most all Manchester city strikers tried scoring but wasn't possible.

Manchester city has really missed DE Bruyne presence in the games and that was why they were not able to win consistently. I can say that hope has come back to Manchester city as it is possible for them to win Newcastle now that De Bruyne is in the game.

It is 2-2 draw now and I believe one side will score again to win the match.
You were right, with De Bruyne they won the game and catch important 3 points. Manchester City now only have two points to knock Liverpool off first place. Winning todays game against Newcastle United after being 1-2 is motivation for the next games. Kevin De Bruyne made it possible, he is the player of the match. Alvarez and Foden had very good actions in the last few games, but this game they werent strong enough. We have to wait until the top game on March 9 this year, when it is Liverpool vs. Manchester City.

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Manchester city come back was really an epic one and I really enjoyed every bit of their play, although I felt disappointed in the first half when they were two goals behind, I for once almost felt like Newcastle was going to get a draw by the end of the game because a two goals lewd ahead was so much to cover up for at once.

Newcastle did played well, their performance was okay as compared to the decline they were already having recently but then by the second half of the game when Manchester city got an equalizer all hope was restored and again I believed it's possible three points will be secured by the end of the game , de bruyne getting a goal in this game as a super sub is an indication that he's got a lot to do with the progress of this team, I'm hopeful he's strong enough even tho he's injury prone, he will be able to deliver some more goals and get Manchester city ahead as they should be.

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January 13, 2024, 08:30:48 PM

Kevin De Bruyne's effect has earned Manchester City the whole 3 points against Newcastle United, and Manchester City has entered second place in the Premier League table. With the 2-3 defeat against Newcastle United, Manchester City has recorded a third consecutive win in the premier league.
Kevin De Bruyne contributed 1 goal and 1 assist in 35 touches during his 21 minutes of play.
The best player in this match should be Kevin De Bruyne but Bruyne lost in the number of minutes played with Rodri who played the full game.

Manchester City achieved 3 consecutive wins after this match. Newcastle United experienced 4 consecutive defeats in the Premier League after this match.
In January, I think there will be new information regarding Eddie Howe's future. Newcastle United officials want the best results this season.

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January 13, 2024, 08:37:05 PM

Kevin De Bruyne contributed 1 goal and 1 assist in 35 touches during his 21 minutes of play.
The best player in this match should be Kevin De Bruyne but Bruyne lost in the number of minutes played with Rodri who played the full game.

Manchester City achieved 3 consecutive wins after this match. Newcastle United experienced 4 consecutive defeats in the Premier League after this match.
In January, I think there will be new information regarding Eddie Howe's future. Newcastle United officials want the best results this season.

Yes, this player makes a difference. Damn, I was hoping that City would lose points today (especially with the score 2-1 in favor of Newcastle) but it all ended in great disappointment for me. If Liverpool makes a mistake in the next rounds, we will quickly return to a situation where bookmakers estimate the probability of the title for City as 1.1  Undecided
Newcastle's fall is terrible - already 10 defeats and they are lower than Chelsea and United. Against the backdrop of a great start (it seems that this was a record-breaking good strat for them), such a fall looks even more tragic.

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Too many chances which should have been goal strucked the woodwork and they was denied that. Most beautiful but yet hurting was the swaz done by Gallagher who was pissed off coz his efforts didn't go back into goals.
Loved the Cole Palmer and Raheem Sterling combination to get that spot kick awarded was a wonderful finish that was also from Cole Palmer which was also the lone goal in the game.
Cole Palmer is incredible when in front of the net and barely messes goal scoring opportunities and this is one good thing about the young player and thus has become Chelsea's highest goalscorer lately with 8 goals scored so far this season. Chelsea will create chances but face challenges to putting the ball in the back of the net, the same thing happened in their last game with Middlesbrough that led to their lost in the game. Two things Chelsea team really need to work on, one is on their defense line and two is to work on their front line player in scoring of goals.

That's awful performance from chelsea. Pochettino once again did another stupid thing. It seems he was fully trusting levy to play as a left back. I see that sterling and broja were so wasteful. they never able to build a proper direct attack against fulham.
Chelsea was owning the ball but it's playing as bad as usuall. The club was doing too many backpass and it was really hurting the club. Fulham was unlucky caused by chelsea was getting a penalty from referee. I thought that webb will not give chelsea a penalty but i was wrong here.

Pochettino's club was performing so poorly like what it used to be. The club missed many chances and pochettino doens't even think to create rotation in the club. He keep stick to use the same strategy till the end of game.
It's really strange to see that how pochettino was not doing proper change. Chelsea will be impossible to go up if it keeps show another shitshow like this.

Chelsea is still not in a good situation even after spending too much money on this team they couldn't have a good performance.
The game against Fulham was one good example of a bad performance from Chelsea, they won the game with a 1-0 result but the fact about this game is Mauricio Pochettino and his player was lucky because even that one goal was from the penalty kick.


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January 13, 2024, 08:43:20 PM

Newcastle were asking for it second half unfortunately. They had no out ball, everybody behind the ball just hoofing it up the pitch to nobody. City didn’t even have to play that well, Newcastle had zero threat 2nd half.

Eddie Howe must be close to getting sacked now. They’ve been so disappointing this season after doing really well last season.

Man City have De Bruyne back now too, the rest of the league is in trouble.

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Based on the news, Haland will be able to compete again for the end of this month. Haaland has been doing a little training at the moment. In addition, defender John Stones is currently suffering from an ankle injury. De Bruyne's return also seems to give new confidence. Pep should start giving him more minutes. De Bruyne performed quite well, he also provided an assist. 

Source: https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/39295634/erling-haaland-likely-injured-end-january-guardiola
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Kevin De Bruyne's effect has earned Manchester City the whole 3 points against Newcastle United, and Manchester City has entered second place in the Premier League table. With the 2-3 defeat against Newcastle United, Manchester City has recorded a third consecutive win in the premier league.
Kevin De Bruyne contributed 1 goal and 1 assist in 35 touches during his 21 minutes of play.
The best player in this match should be Kevin De Bruyne but Bruyne lost in the number of minutes played with Rodri who played the full game.

Manchester City achieved 3 consecutive wins after this match. Newcastle United experienced 4 consecutive defeats in the Premier League after this match.
In January, I think there will be new information regarding Eddie Howe's future. Newcastle United officials want the best results this season.
It was very emotional when watching this match, Pep Guadiola is truly a genius, he made two substitutions and both contributed to Man City's comeback in this match.

Especially for KDB, he is truly a crazy player and is most eagerly awaited by fans and most feared by their opponents in the EPL. If anyone can say who the best player in this match is, it is Kevin de Bruyne.

How could he not have been injured for five months and finally made his EPL League comeback directly with Newcastle, and he managed to hypnotize football fans. He came on in '69 when Man City were behind, and in the '74 minute he managed to score the equalizer and in the '91 minute he provided an assist for Man City's winning goal.

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Last season, Arsenal lost the title narrowly and this season they may lose their shot at the title again because of injuries. Arsenal is lacking squad depth. They do not have enough options on the bench, Trossard is not in form, Saka is fatigued, Martinelli is also not in form. For a team that is contending for the league title, they need to go to the market and strengthen their squad. Arteta need to get a goal scorer and an attacking midfielder. They need to do a lot of recruitment to fill in those positions. It will be a very big problem for the Arsenal side if they do not make these moves.
You are right, Arteta needs to recruit players in the January transfer window to add depth to the squad, but the challenge of getting players who suit his strategy will be very difficult. If Arsenal still dreams of winning the EPL trophy this season, then they must create consistency while waiting for Liverpool, Man City and Aston Villa to experience bad days. The front line is one of the weaknesses of Arteta fleet this season, if they don't immediately find a solution then it's no surprise they will return to a story like last season.

While there is still a chance to compete for the title, Arteta must evaluate the shortcomings of his squad from now on. The bigger concern lies with injured players, and Arsenal also released two players to strengthen their national team. On the other hand, there are still 18 matches remaining to make everything possible, and it would be a shame to end the season without winning any title.

Next, Arsenal will face Crystal Palace, I think the Gunners will not lose points, even though they are not in good condition, they have to forget the two previous defeats. However, if the opposite happens, in my opinion, Arsenal will be knocked out of the team challenging for the title, and their position will be overtaken by Tottenham in the top four of the standings.

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