Premier League Prediction Thread 2024/2025

[Sexylizzy2813]

Source

In the friendly match played by Tottenham against Hearts, Son and his friends managed to win with a fairly landslide score in the match. I was quite impressed with Tottenham in this match, because the game shown by the Tottenham players was very good in that match. Even the new players brought in by Tottenham, Archie Gray and Lucas Bergvall, also played in this match, and the two new players showed very good performances. Lucas Bergvall was even able to provide one assist for Tottenham in that match. So by looking at the composition of players and also the strategy that Tottenham currently has, I am sure that Tottenham can definitely become a tough competitor in the Premier League next season. Because I see that Tottenham's defense, midfield and front line are currently arguably better than last season. So with these facts, I predict that Tottenham will most likely be a team capable of competing in the top 3 of the Premier League.

And the Tottenham players who scored goals in this match were

• Johnson
• Lankshear
• Moore
• Djed Spence

Unfortunately Son did not score a goal in this match, and I hope that in the next friendly match Son can score goals again.

Did you say Tottenham managed to get a win? That's one hell of a show by the Spurs players, at least they gave in their best to drop up to 5 goals and that's what I call impressive in their first friendly game (if I'm not mistaken) so if these set of players are going to keep up this momentum I believe before the beginning of the season they're going to make a difference compare to how they were last season, although I'm not the type that uses one good game to judge how good a team is but for a start they're better than Manchester United who lost and the fans will start giving excuses but it doesn't matter. For Spurs to be a tough competitors next season they need to be consistent not winning game till December then they go back to default settings, that's not a good team if you ask me, we shouldn't be to excited about their win until it gets into their system to always be winners and always make sure they stay at the top 3 position of the table.

[Litzki1990]

Pre-season games usually don't have any motivation for the top clubs to win the game. Yes, I agree that in this match both teams gave one hundred percent of their abilities. But this is not the first time a top team from the English league has lost to a mediocre team. I think Manchester United really made this a game to test a lot of different tactics. Rosenborg scored a goal late in the game so I think both teams played very well. But a defeat is still a defeat and Ten Hag also said that this was not the performance United should have.

If Ten Hag has started to realize this at Manchester United, of course he himself knows what he actually has to do before the season actually starts. Because in terms of time, it is still possible for Manchester United to make more evaluations and better strategies to be able to start next season as well as possible. And apart from that, losing in the pre-season match also didn't harm Manchester United even though it could make the mediocre team feel happy and enthusiastic enough to start next season in the Premier League.

Ten Hag  is certainly a capable manager and he has been in charge of Manchester United for a long time, although the team has not done well under him in the last few seasons, but he has been given one more season to change the position of Manchester United. There was a good chance he could lose his job this season but with Manchester United finally relying on him, the manager will surely change his tactics and try to improve the team's performance. This season has been a gamble for Ten Hag. If he can show something good this season, Manchester United will definitely extend his contract, but if the performance is worse than in the past, then Manchester United management will remove him from the responsibility of the team.

[Arenga pinnata]

So far, around 6 pre-season matches have been played. The list of matches is:

- Chesterfield 0-3 Nott'm Forest
- Rosenborg 1-0 Man Utd
- Ferencvaros 2-2 West Ham
- Como 1907 0-1 Wolves
- Hearts 1-5 Spurs
- Walsall 0-3 Aston Villa

And there are many more pre-season games that have been scheduled. And on July 19 there will probably be around 4 pre-season matches that will be held. Like

- Crystal Palace vs Charlton Athletic
- Sligo Rovers vs Everton
- Sunderland vs Nott'm Forest
- Eastleigh vs Southampton

(Sourch: https://www.premierleague.com/news/3916186)

[Rampagoe004]

Pre-season games usually don't have any motivation for the top clubs to win the game. Yes, I agree that in this match both teams gave one hundred percent of their abilities. But this is not the first time a top team from the English league has lost to a mediocre team. I think Manchester United really made this a game to test a lot of different tactics. Rosenborg scored a goal late in the game so I think both teams played very well. But a defeat is still a defeat and Ten Hag also said that this was not the performance United should have.

If Ten Hag has started to realize this at Manchester United, of course he himself knows what he actually has to do before the season actually starts. Because in terms of time, it is still possible for Manchester United to make more evaluations and better strategies to be able to start next season as well as possible. And apart from that, losing in the pre-season match also didn't harm Manchester United even though it could make the mediocre team feel happy and enthusiastic enough to start next season in the Premier League.

I agree with you. Ten Hag must carry out an overall evaluation and learn lessons from their loss to Rosenborg. Because this is a pre-season match so I don't think this is an embarrassing defeat. Mediocre teams usually play more passionately against top European teams and teams like Manchester United also play seriously but they often make pre-season tours to evaluate and try various variations of tactics in the game. But defeat is still defeat and Ten Hag must be able to really evaluate his squad before the English league competition starts.

[Ahli38]

I agree with you. Ten Hag must carry out an overall evaluation and learn lessons from their loss to Rosenborg. Because this is a pre-season match so I don't think this is an embarrassing defeat. Mediocre teams usually play more passionately against top European teams and teams like Manchester United also play seriously but they often make pre-season tours to evaluate and try various variations of tactics in the game. But defeat is still defeat and Ten Hag must be able to really evaluate his squad before the English league competition starts.

Yes, it's true that defeat is still defeat. Even though it wasn't a really serious match for Manchester United and was just a test match which was usually carried out in order to prepare before the season actually started. but well, from that match, Ten Hag had to go back to improving what was lacking in the squad he built. Even in terms of pass accuracy, it seems that Man United is still quite low. And actually their back line was still quite vulnerable in this match. And yeah the point is there's a lot of work to be done ten hag. And Ten Hag will test his improvements again in the next pre-season match, namely against Rangers at Murrayfield stadium.

[knowngunman]

Pre-season games usually don't have any motivation for the top clubs to win the game. Yes, I agree that in this match both teams gave one hundred percent of their abilities. But this is not the first time a top team from the English league has lost to a mediocre team. I think Manchester United really made this a game to test a lot of different tactics. Rosenborg scored a goal late in the game so I think both teams played very well. But a defeat is still a defeat and Ten Hag also said that this was not the performance United should have.

This is exactly what we are talking but some people see it as baseless criticism. This preseason games are not just about the results. It is a game that allows teams to test their tactics before season starts and its results has no any impact. Both teams played well actually but were there any tactics employed by Manchester United better than last season? The answer is obviously NO!

United had the same issues last season. They literally can’t pull down the ball and play through the midfield, they only pass it around the back and then play a long pass that often results to lose of possession. By now, it’s expected of Ten hang to have a defined pattern of playing but nothing actually seems to change for now.

[Mr.right85]

I don't think we'll see Manchester United improve much with Ten Hag. We won't even see Manchester United in the top four of the table.

With the help of Ten Hag, we got to see Manchester United perform well in the 2022-23 season. Manchester United was third in the table. So naturally our expectations from Ten Hag in the 2023-24 season were high. But Manchester United's performance has deteriorated badly as we have seen it. We have seen Manchester United's defenders playing badly. Even the performance of the attacking players was very erratic. ten Hag's match strategy was not good, Manchester United's understanding between the players was not good either. So I don't think this team will show any surprises next season.

I also don’t believe in Ten Hag, he is not consistent in his performances and he do have internal problems with players which is not a sign of a good manager.
Last season, Manchester United’s performance was good in the beginning of the season, but towards the end of the season due to some wrong decisions, the team performance went down due to injuries as well, but with all the money spent to sign the wrong players in the team, I think they should have signed better players that will bring progress to the team, but Ten Hag prefer to sign his former players which the Premier League style of play has became difficult for them to adapt.

If Ten Hag didn’t perform well next season, I will suggest he should be sacked before the end of the season so that the team can get a better coach that brings glory back to Old Trafford.

You make an important point that I missed. Ten Hag's relationship with the players is not good. He doesn't even like many players. If the relationship between the coach and the players is not good then it is foolish to expect good performance from this team. Guardiola is a successful Premier League coach. And we've never heard of any player feuds with Guardiola. Or Guardiola dislikes a player in his squad. If you want to be a successful coach, you must have a friendly relationship with the players. And try to understand the weaknesses of the players. But players don't have a friendly relationship with Ten Hag

Ten Hag has many weaknesses. So I don't expect Manchester United to transform into a strong squad next season. Rather I would have been happy if the Manchester United management had appointed a more experienced coach.

Ten hag has been able to convince INEOS that he’s the right man for the job. I think the FA cup win last season against their local rival Manchester City saved him. The management (INEOS) are doing everything to support him at the moment by getting his preferred signings. So far we have witnessed a lot of significant changes going on in the club, from the appointments of leading figures like Dan Ashworth, Omar Berrada and the assistant manager to Ten hag, Van Nistelrooy. To whom much is given, much is expected. So I expect a new Manchester United as the season kicks off.

[Barikui1]

Pre-season games usually don't have any motivation for the top clubs to win the game. Yes, I agree that in this match both teams gave one hundred percent of their abilities. But this is not the first time a top team from the English league has lost to a mediocre team. I think Manchester United really made this a game to test a lot of different tactics. Rosenborg scored a goal late in the game so I think both teams played very well. But a defeat is still a defeat and Ten Hag also said that this was not the performance United should have.

If Ten Hag has started to realize this at Manchester United, of course he himself knows what he actually has to do before the season actually starts. Because in terms of time, it is still possible for Manchester United to make more evaluations and better strategies to be able to start next season as well as possible. And apart from that, losing in the pre-season match also didn't harm Manchester United even though it could make the mediocre team feel happy and enthusiastic enough to start next season in the Premier League.

Ten Hag  is certainly a capable manager and he has been in charge of Manchester United for a long time, although the team has not done well under him in the last few seasons, but he has been given one more season to change the position of Manchester United. There was a good chance he could lose his job this season but with Manchester United finally relying on him, the manager will surely change his tactics and try to improve the team's performance. This season has been a gamble for Ten Hag. If he can show something good this season, Manchester United will definitely extend his contract, but if the performance is worse than in the past, then Manchester United management will remove him from the responsibility of the team.

If am correct, I actually don't understand what you mean by Eric ten hang has been in charge of Manchester united for a very long time, so if I may ask, is two years a very long time? And this season will make it his third year as manager of Manchester united, so it's best you don't exaggerate things, and as for his abilities, no doubt he is a very good coach, and he has proven to be a winner in my own perspective, but this upcoming season is definitely going to define his future at the club, wether they are going to retain his services or not, but if he did much better than last season, I believe that they are going to retain his services at the club.

I have said this before and am still going to say this again, the major problem of Manchester united is not the manager, it is how the club is being structured, they focus more on commercial activities than anything else, till that is amended,  Manchester united will not return to the glory days we all know that they had during the days of sir Alex Ferguson.

[Catenaccio]

Ten hag has been able to convince INEOS that he’s the right man for the job. I think the FA cup win last season against their local rival Manchester City saved him. The management (INEOS) are doing everything to support him at the moment by getting his preferred signings. So far we have witnessed a lot of significant changes going on in the club, from the appointments of leading figures like Dan Ashworth, Omar Berrada and the assistant manager to Ten hag, Van Nistelrooy. To whom much is given, much is expected. So I expect a new Manchester United as the season kicks off.

He was given two seasons, with a lot of opportunities and was protected strongly against many criticisms recent months. His job and coach position are secured by his boss this summer, then he will be given more time to complete his project with Manchester United. The belief on Ten Hag from Manchester United continues to be solid but nothing to be sure that their boss won't change minds if in a next season, Ten Hag and his players can not satisfy quality requirements and expected results from their boss.

Being confident and determinant with a coach and a project is good but putting it on a wrong person won't help to achieve good results at all. Complain anything about Ten Hag now is non sense as he won't be fired this summer. I don't hope anyone to lose his job and don't wish it to Ten Hag, but we need to wait for his performances in a new season.

[len01]

If Ten Hag has started to realize this at Manchester United, of course he himself knows what he actually has to do before the season actually starts. Because in terms of time, it is still possible for Manchester United to make more evaluations and better strategies to be able to start next season as well as possible.

Maybe I'm one of the few people who don't believe in Ten Hag anymore but I confess the Ten Hag condition of that time that it's really hard to improve the team's performance to be maximum when some players have to get injured. And now Ten Hag has begun to act heartily in terms of bringing in new players and making a major upgrade on every line that was considered weak last season.
Changing the team to get the best results takes time and this is an effort by Man United management to give Ten Hag a last chance to prove that he can take the team up to a higher level.

And apart from that, losing in the pre-season match also didn't harm Manchester United even though it could make the mediocre team feel happy and enthusiastic enough to start next season in the Premier League.

As far as yesterday's pre-season matches are concerned, they don't really need to be taken seriously. It's just a regular match to test how strong a young player or a new player is coming in this season, so there's no need to assume if it's a failure.

[punk.zink]

Ten hag has been able to convince INEOS that he’s the right man for the job. I think the FA cup win last season against their local rival Manchester City saved him. The management (INEOS) are doing everything to support him at the moment by getting his preferred signings. So far we have witnessed a lot of significant changes going on in the club, from the appointments of leading figures like Dan Ashworth, Omar Berrada and the assistant manager to Ten hag, Van Nistelrooy. To whom much is given, much is expected. So I expect a new Manchester United as the season kicks off.

He was given two seasons, with a lot of opportunities and was protected strongly against many criticisms recent months. His job and coach position are secured by his boss this summer, then he will be given more time to complete his project with Manchester United. The belief on Ten Hag from Manchester United continues to be solid but nothing to be sure that their boss won't change minds if in a next season, Ten Hag and his players can not satisfy quality requirements and expected results from their boss.

Being confident and determinant with a coach and a project is good but putting it on a wrong person won't help to achieve good results at all. Complain anything about Ten Hag now is non sense as he won't be fired this summer. I don't hope anyone to lose his job and don't wish it to Ten Hag, but we need to wait for his performances in a new season.

Next season will be a proving ground for Ten Hag, and it seems that Ten Hag is very aware that this will be decisive for him, therefore he is very serious in making preparations and does not want to wait long to make changes. The progress he has shown seems to be good. He's already got Joshua Zirkzee and Leny Yoro so far, and in all likelihood, a new defensive midfielder will soon be his priority. Though he doesn't have much of a budget but, he has the option to release some of his players to increase the budget.

Now we just have to wait and see, with everything he has already got (and the possibility of other transfers in the future), would that be able to bring Man United reborn and shine again?

[RaltcoinsB]

Pre-season games usually don't have any motivation for the top clubs to win the game. Yes, I agree that in this match both teams gave one hundred percent of their abilities. But this is not the first time a top team from the English league has lost to a mediocre team. I think Manchester United really made this a game to test a lot of different tactics. Rosenborg scored a goal late in the game so I think both teams played very well. But a defeat is still a defeat and Ten Hag also said that this was not the performance United should have.

If Ten Hag has started to realize this at Manchester United, of course he himself knows what he actually has to do before the season actually starts. Because in terms of time, it is still possible for Manchester United to make more evaluations and better strategies to be able to start next season as well as possible. And apart from that, losing in the pre-season match also didn't harm Manchester United even though it could make the mediocre team feel happy and enthusiastic enough to start next season in the Premier League.

They may have lost to Rosenborg, but if you look at the match statistics, Manchester United could not show any presence. Rosenborg found 22 positions, while Manchester United found only 5 positions. Manchester United has been playing mediocre in the pre-season. If these games continue this year, we will probably see Ten Hag dismissed from the team before the end of the season.

[legendbtc]

Pre-season games usually don't have any motivation for the top clubs to win the game. Yes, I agree that in this match both teams gave one hundred percent of their abilities. But this is not the first time a top team from the English league has lost to a mediocre team. I think Manchester United really made this a game to test a lot of different tactics. Rosenborg scored a goal late in the game so I think both teams played very well. But a defeat is still a defeat and Ten Hag also said that this was not the performance United should have.

If Ten Hag has started to realize this at Manchester United, of course he himself knows what he actually has to do before the season actually starts. Because in terms of time, it is still possible for Manchester United to make more evaluations and better strategies to be able to start next season as well as possible. And apart from that, losing in the pre-season match also didn't harm Manchester United even though it could make the mediocre team feel happy and enthusiastic enough to start next season in the Premier League.

They may have lost to Rosenborg, but if you look at the match statistics, Manchester United could not show any presence. Rosenborg found 22 positions, while Manchester United found only 5 positions. Manchester United has been playing mediocre in the pre-season. If these games continue this year, we will probably see Ten Hag dismissed from the team before the end of the season.

MU again appeared inferior when facing Rosenborg. Despite fielding a team with many great players like Rashford, Casemiro, or Mason Mount,... MU showed an extremely lackluster playing style. It is worth mentioning that MU appeared relatively deadlocked and lacking ideas in attack. The players need to improve a lot to be worthy of the club's stature.

I see two obvious problems in the match in Trondheim. One is that MU players have not reached their best physical condition. Ten Hag's students have just reunited. Second, defense continues to be MU's weakness. The most important thing for Ten Hag right now is to find the hole in the defense and fix it as soon as the season is about to start. If Ten Hag teachers and students continue to maintain this appearance, I think MU fans should prepare themselves for another terrible season. And I believe the MU leadership will no longer be patient with Coach Ten Hag.

[CryptoBuds]

Pre-season games usually don't have any motivation for the top clubs to win the game. Yes, I agree that in this match both teams gave one hundred percent of their abilities. But this is not the first time a top team from the English league has lost to a mediocre team. I think Manchester United really made this a game to test a lot of different tactics. Rosenborg scored a goal late in the game so I think both teams played very well. But a defeat is still a defeat and Ten Hag also said that this was not the performance United should have.

If Ten Hag has started to realize this at Manchester United, of course he himself knows what he actually has to do before the season actually starts. Because in terms of time, it is still possible for Manchester United to make more evaluations and better strategies to be able to start next season as well as possible. And apart from that, losing in the pre-season match also didn't harm Manchester United even though it could make the mediocre team feel happy and enthusiastic enough to start next season in the Premier League.

They may have lost to Rosenborg, but if you look at the match statistics, Manchester United could not show any presence. Rosenborg found 22 positions, while Manchester United found only 5 positions. Manchester United has been playing mediocre in the pre-season. If these games continue this year, we will probably see Ten Hag dismissed from the team before the end of the season.

If Manchester United had been beaten after performing well, we would not have been so critical. But Manchester United's performance in this match was very bad. Instead, Rosenborg's players performed well. And they deserve to win this match. If Rosenborg had an experienced striker in the attack, Manchester United would have conceded at least 3 goals in this match.

Rosenborg had 54% of the ball. Able to make a total of 22 shots. And 7 of those shots were on target. Manchester United players on the other hand had only 5 shots in the entire match and two of them were on target. Rosenborg's players played very well. And Rosenborg won this match by performing well.

[Helena Yu]

This is exactly what we are talking but some people see it as baseless criticism. This preseason games are not just about the results. It is a game that allows teams to test their tactics before season starts and its results has no any impact. Both teams played well actually but were there any tactics employed by Manchester United better than last season? The answer is obviously NO!

United had the same issues last season. They literally can’t pull down the ball and play through the midfield, they only pass it around the back and then play a long pass that often results to lose of possession. By now, it’s expected of Ten hang to have a defined pattern of playing but nothing actually seems to change for now.

I think that people wants Manchester United to play as best as possible in any kind of match and never do experiment except in training, while the reality experiment must be tried in everything, start from training, friendly match and then the official match if it works.

Expecting a strategy will work after it successfully in training isn't make sense because the pressure is completely different.

I have no issue to see a team lose against weak team in friendly match.

[Uruhara]

They may have lost to Rosenborg, but if you look at the match statistics, Manchester United could not show any presence. Rosenborg found 22 positions, while Manchester United found only 5 positions. Manchester United has been playing mediocre in the pre-season. If these games continue this year, we will probably see Ten Hag dismissed from the team before the end of the season.

Hopefully Man United won't play that bad when the season starts. And actually in the pre-season match against Rosenborg we saw that Man United did not play with their best squad completely because in that match Man United also gave the young players the opportunity to play. So I really understand these results. But if ten Hag is able to make a good strategy then even with young players he should be able to show a better game than that.

But in reality he has not been able to make the club's performance in its best condition. But I think we are too early to judge because this is only pre-season and even player transfers have not yet been completed. We'll see when Man United's main squad is there, namely when the transfer market closes and the season starts. But if in the next pre-season match Man United still doesn't show good results, it is very natural that many will be pessimistic about Man United's performance when the season starts.

[NotATether]

Hopefully Man United won't play that bad when the season starts. And actually in the pre-season match against Rosenborg we saw that Man United did not play with their best squad completely because in that match Man United also gave the young players the opportunity to play. So I really understand these results. But if ten Hag is able to make a good strategy then even with young players he should be able to show a better game than that.

Ha! Nothing is changing at Old Trafford as long as they still employ Erik Ten Hag.

Also, I don't know why you all are taking pre-season results too seriously. It is common for games like this to end in draws or defeats, since they are not playing a full-strength XI. Rather, the objective is for the manager to figure out what tactics will work and not work at the beginning of the season, and which players he should use for that.

[Lannakosa]

I think that people wants Manchester United to play as best as possible in any kind of match and never do experiment except in training, while the reality experiment must be tried in everything, start from training, friendly match and then the official match if it works.

Expecting a strategy will work after it successfully in training isn't make sense because the pressure is completely different.

I have no issue to see a team lose against weak team in friendly match.

Enough to discuss this friendly match on which nothing depends and which Manchester United did not play with the main squad, otherwise ten Hag will be fired because of this defeat.

If you want to discuss the result of friendly matches, then at least wait that the team plays them with the main squad, where ten Hag will change only a few players and will perceive these matches as a test of the strength of the team. I see that Manchester United has potential, there is ambition, there is desire, this is a young team that lacks a little experience, besides that they have almost everything they need. Maybe a win over City will give them the confidence they need, I don't think it works that way but I'd like it to.

[Oluwa-btc]

Ha! Nothing is changing at Old Trafford as long as they still employ Erik Ten Hag.

Also, I don't know why you all are taking pre-season results too seriously. It is common for games like this to end in draws or defeats, since they are not playing a full-strength XI. Rather, the objective is for the manager to figure out what tactics will work and not work at the beginning of the season, and which players he should use for that.

I'd rather words like, nothing would change with Manchester United as long as Glazers are still with the club. Also, so many players playing for Manchester United without standards, you cannot over look that side too. Having such discussions has been hell tiring lately, why do people see only the bad in what Erik Ten Hag has done for Manchester United?

You could still have the best pre-season and still fumble when the Premier League Competition kicks off. Besides, the squad used to play that game in the first game had to do with majority of young lads from the academy side.

Exactly, while figuring strategies and also look out for players most likely to break into the first team. Same way Garnacho and Kobbie Mainoo came through, I believe they'll be having another yougin. One Toby and Harry Amass are most likely to get this first team call up. They have been training with the first team for a couple few weeks.

[Frankolala]

This is exactly what we are talking but some people see it as baseless criticism. This preseason games are not just about the results. It is a game that allows teams to test their tactics before season starts and its results has no any impact. Both teams played well actually but were there any tactics employed by Manchester United better than last season? The answer is obviously NO!

United had the same issues last season. They literally can’t pull down the ball and play through the midfield, they only pass it around the back and then play a long pass that often results to lose of possession. By now, it’s expected of Ten hang to have a defined pattern of playing but nothing actually seems to change for now.

I think that people wants Manchester United to play as best as possible in any kind of match and never do experiment except in training, while the reality experiment must be tried in everything, start from training, friendly match and then the official match if it works.

Expecting a strategy will work after it successfully in training isn't make sense because the pressure is completely different.

I have no issue to see a team lose against weak team in friendly match.

It is a norm for folks to pour out their mind on how they feel about what is going on with Manchester united and it is not everyone that will in the same direction because we have different expectations from the club.

What you said is true because friendly matches don't count and learning new tactics or pattern in training will be tested on a live match, if bot you will not look if it will work or not. Also how to close any loop holes or challenge in the new tactics. Experiments are done to get the best results and make corrections.