Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024

[Helena Yu]

This is exactly what we are talking but some people see it as baseless criticism. This preseason games are not just about the results. It is a game that allows teams to test their tactics before season starts and its results has no any impact. Both teams played well actually but were there any tactics employed by Manchester United better than last season? The answer is obviously NO!

United had the same issues last season. They literally can’t pull down the ball and play through the midfield, they only pass it around the back and then play a long pass that often results to lose of possession. By now, it’s expected of Ten hang to have a defined pattern of playing but nothing actually seems to change for now.

I think that people wants Manchester United to play as best as possible in any kind of match and never do experiment except in training, while the reality experiment must be tried in everything, start from training, friendly match and then the official match if it works.

Expecting a strategy will work after it successfully in training isn't make sense because the pressure is completely different.

I have no issue to see a team lose against weak team in friendly match.

[Uruhara]

They may have lost to Rosenborg, but if you look at the match statistics, Manchester United could not show any presence. Rosenborg found 22 positions, while Manchester United found only 5 positions. Manchester United has been playing mediocre in the pre-season. If these games continue this year, we will probably see Ten Hag dismissed from the team before the end of the season.

Hopefully Man United won't play that bad when the season starts. And actually in the pre-season match against Rosenborg we saw that Man United did not play with their best squad completely because in that match Man United also gave the young players the opportunity to play. So I really understand these results. But if ten Hag is able to make a good strategy then even with young players he should be able to show a better game than that.

But in reality he has not been able to make the club's performance in its best condition. But I think we are too early to judge because this is only pre-season and even player transfers have not yet been completed. We'll see when Man United's main squad is there, namely when the transfer market closes and the season starts. But if in the next pre-season match Man United still doesn't show good results, it is very natural that many will be pessimistic about Man United's performance when the season starts.

[NotATether]

Hopefully Man United won't play that bad when the season starts. And actually in the pre-season match against Rosenborg we saw that Man United did not play with their best squad completely because in that match Man United also gave the young players the opportunity to play. So I really understand these results. But if ten Hag is able to make a good strategy then even with young players he should be able to show a better game than that.

Ha! Nothing is changing at Old Trafford as long as they still employ Erik Ten Hag.

Also, I don't know why you all are taking pre-season results too seriously. It is common for games like this to end in draws or defeats, since they are not playing a full-strength XI. Rather, the objective is for the manager to figure out what tactics will work and not work at the beginning of the season, and which players he should use for that.

[Lannakosa]

I think that people wants Manchester United to play as best as possible in any kind of match and never do experiment except in training, while the reality experiment must be tried in everything, start from training, friendly match and then the official match if it works.

Expecting a strategy will work after it successfully in training isn't make sense because the pressure is completely different.

I have no issue to see a team lose against weak team in friendly match.

Enough to discuss this friendly match on which nothing depends and which Manchester United did not play with the main squad, otherwise ten Hag will be fired because of this defeat.

If you want to discuss the result of friendly matches, then at least wait that the team plays them with the main squad, where ten Hag will change only a few players and will perceive these matches as a test of the strength of the team. I see that Manchester United has potential, there is ambition, there is desire, this is a young team that lacks a little experience, besides that they have almost everything they need. Maybe a win over City will give them the confidence they need, I don't think it works that way but I'd like it to.

[Oluwa-btc]

Ha! Nothing is changing at Old Trafford as long as they still employ Erik Ten Hag.

Also, I don't know why you all are taking pre-season results too seriously. It is common for games like this to end in draws or defeats, since they are not playing a full-strength XI. Rather, the objective is for the manager to figure out what tactics will work and not work at the beginning of the season, and which players he should use for that.

I'd rather words like, nothing would change with Manchester United as long as Glazers are still with the club. Also, so many players playing for Manchester United without standards, you cannot over look that side too. Having such discussions has been hell tiring lately, why do people see only the bad in what Erik Ten Hag has done for Manchester United?

You could still have the best pre-season and still fumble when the Premier League Competition kicks off. Besides, the squad used to play that game in the first game had to do with majority of young lads from the academy side.

Exactly, while figuring strategies and also look out for players most likely to break into the first team. Same way Garnacho and Kobbie Mainoo came through, I believe they'll be having another yougin. One Toby and Harry Amass are most likely to get this first team call up. They have been training with the first team for a couple few weeks.

[Frankolala]

This is exactly what we are talking but some people see it as baseless criticism. This preseason games are not just about the results. It is a game that allows teams to test their tactics before season starts and its results has no any impact. Both teams played well actually but were there any tactics employed by Manchester United better than last season? The answer is obviously NO!

United had the same issues last season. They literally can’t pull down the ball and play through the midfield, they only pass it around the back and then play a long pass that often results to lose of possession. By now, it’s expected of Ten hang to have a defined pattern of playing but nothing actually seems to change for now.

I think that people wants Manchester United to play as best as possible in any kind of match and never do experiment except in training, while the reality experiment must be tried in everything, start from training, friendly match and then the official match if it works.

Expecting a strategy will work after it successfully in training isn't make sense because the pressure is completely different.

I have no issue to see a team lose against weak team in friendly match.

It is a norm for folks to pour out their mind on how they feel about what is going on with Manchester united and it is not everyone that will in the same direction because we have different expectations from the club.

What you said is true because friendly matches don't count and learning new tactics or pattern in training will be tested on a live match, if bot you will not look if it will work or not. Also how to close any loop holes or challenge in the new tactics. Experiments are done to get the best results and make corrections.

[Jatiluhung]

This is exactly what we are talking but some people see it as baseless criticism. This preseason games are not just about the results. It is a game that allows teams to test their tactics before season starts and its results has no any impact. Both teams played well actually but were there any tactics employed by Manchester United better than last season? The answer is obviously NO!

United had the same issues last season. They literally can’t pull down the ball and play through the midfield, they only pass it around the back and then play a long pass that often results to lose of possession. By now, it’s expected of Ten hang to have a defined pattern of playing but nothing actually seems to change for now.

I think that people wants Manchester United to play as best as possible in any kind of match and never do experiment except in training, while the reality experiment must be tried in everything, start from training, friendly match and then the official match if it works.

Expecting a strategy will work after it successfully in training isn't make sense because the pressure is completely different.

I have no issue to see a team lose against weak team in friendly match.

Of course, every MU fan definitely wants to see good results, even if it is in a friendly match or in a pre-season match. It's just that we can't expect much from pre-season matches because they are just matches to test strategies or even test several players who will be used as material for evaluating whether they are worthy of being included in the main squad or not. And it can be seen that in that match, Man United included many young players in the game. And I don't think Ten Hag really cares which team wins. He may only focus on finding potential players who he can place in the main squad. But some people's disappointment is also normal. I might be more interested in making an assessment in this pre-season match when Man United will face Arsenal next week.

[mammusu]

Hopefully Man United won't play that bad when the season starts. And actually in the pre-season match against Rosenborg we saw that Man United did not play with their best squad completely because in that match Man United also gave the young players the opportunity to play. So I really understand these results. But if ten Hag is able to make a good strategy then even with young players he should be able to show a better game than that.

Ha! Nothing is changing at Old Trafford as long as they still employ Erik Ten Hag.

Also, I don't know why you all are taking pre-season results too seriously. It is common for games like this to end in draws or defeats, since they are not playing a full-strength XI. Rather, the objective is for the manager to figure out what tactics will work and not work at the beginning of the season, and which players he should use for that.

Losing to a team that is not well known at all is of course very embarrassing for a big team like Manchester United at the moment, even though the match was only a pre-season match, but Manchester United should not have lost although fielding young players and most of the second tier players, previously Manchester is actually the favorite able to win over Rosenborg but in fact their lost from a team level is far below Manchester United So far, the pre-season match has been used as a match to test the strategy and mentality of young players, but the defeat against Rosenborg clearly shows that Ten Hag strategy is not very good, although the defeat against We can't use Rosenborg as a reference if Manchester United is still in a bad condition at the moment, but I think it's better for us to judge Manchester when they play an official match against Manchester City at the Community Shield later.

[Solokan]

They may have lost to Rosenborg, but if you look at the match statistics, Manchester United could not show any presence. Rosenborg found 22 positions, while Manchester United found only 5 positions. Manchester United has been playing mediocre in the pre-season. If these games continue this year, we will probably see Ten Hag dismissed from the team before the end of the season.

I personally also didn't think that the team that won the FA Cup title could be defeated by Rosenborg and I thought that before the match between Rosenborg and Manchester United started, Manchester United would have great potential to beat Rosenborg because of course Manchester United could beat Manchester City as EPL champions, of course that's something. outstanding. but after seeing the match end in Rosenborg's victory, to be honest, I was shocked and didn't expect that Rosenborg would be able to beat Manchester United.

Indeed, if you look at the match statistics, of course Rosenborg is superior and I also saw that when Rosenborg competed against Manchester United, I saw that Erik Ten Hag's troops really had difficulty making attacks on Rosenborg and I was also amazed by Rosenborg's performance which always made Manchester United's defense panic because Rosenborg continued to pressing forward with their attacks. However, it is also a shame that Rosenborg could not take full advantage of the opportunity and actually Rosenborg could have scored more goals if Ole Saeter's kick had not been offside.

Yes, of course, if for example Manchester United makes no progress and continues to lose then of course there is the potential for Ten Hag to be fired, but honestly I hope Ten Hag can improve everything and in the end Manchester United's performance continues to improve.

[hahay]

Hopefully Man United won't play that bad when the season starts. And actually in the pre-season match against Rosenborg we saw that Man United did not play with their best squad completely because in that match Man United also gave the young players the opportunity to play. So I really understand these results. But if ten Hag is able to make a good strategy then even with young players he should be able to show a better game than that.

Ha! Nothing is changing at Old Trafford as long as they still employ Erik Ten Hag.

Also, I don't know why you all are taking pre-season results too seriously. It is common for games like this to end in draws or defeats, since they are not playing a full-strength XI. Rather, the objective is for the manager to figure out what tactics will work and not work at the beginning of the season, and which players he should use for that.

If the manager makes preparations about what tactics will be used next season, then the manager should also play his main players, and not young players or second-line players who are played in pre-season matches like this. Therefore, I personally feel that they are not making preparations about the strategy or tactics that will be used next season, but about considering the abilities of the young players in the squad.

So yes, this meant that the results were not optimal even though they only played against mediocre teams but Manchester United still failed to win. But indeed, I also don't take the results in pre-season matches like this seriously, because I also avoid betting on matches like this. But indeed, because they also need to rest and go on holiday, I don't think the manager can force them to keep playing with their best efforts, because it seems like that would also have a bad impact if done in a match like this.

[klidex]

Jonathan Tah? He is strongly linked with a move to Bayern Munich. He wants Bayern Munich and they want him as well, all Manchester United did was to inquire about the player, no further advances has been made for him. He was part of the players that helped Bayern Leverkusen win the Bundesliga League Competition last season. I haven't watched him closely so I cannot say what I don't know. I agree with you, Erik Ten Hag needs a strong base to thrive, it was key to success in his first season for the red devils ( Manchester United )

So, that is the problem for Man United because they have to compete with Bayern Munich to be able to recruit this player. Apart from that, Bayern Munich will not give up on making an offer to Leverkusen at a higher price, while Manchester United doesn't seem to be able to make a higher offer than Bayern Munich.
Until now there has been no decision regarding either of them, but I really hope that Man United can finally recruit these player considering that the club really needs a defender.

[Spaceman1000$]

They may have lost to Rosenborg, but if you look at the match statistics, Manchester United could not show any presence. Rosenborg found 22 positions, while Manchester United found only 5 positions. Manchester United has been playing mediocre in the pre-season. If these games continue this year, we will probably see Ten Hag dismissed from the team before the end of the season.

I personally also didn't think that the team that won the FA Cup title could be defeated by Rosenborg and I thought that before the match between Rosenborg and Manchester United started, Manchester United would have great potential to beat Rosenborg because of course Manchester United could beat Manchester City as EPL champions, of course that's something. outstanding. but after seeing the match end in Rosenborg's victory, to be honest, I was shocked and didn't expect that Rosenborg would be able to beat Manchester United.

Indeed, if you look at the match statistics, of course Rosenborg is superior and I also saw that when Rosenborg competed against Manchester United, I saw that Erik Ten Hag's troops really had difficulty making attacks on Rosenborg and I was also amazed by Rosenborg's performance which always made Manchester United's defense panic because Rosenborg continued to pressing forward with their attacks. However, it is also a shame that Rosenborg could not take full advantage of the opportunity and actually Rosenborg could have scored more goals if Ole Saeter's kick had not been offside.

Yes, of course, if for example Manchester United makes no progress and continues to lose then of course there is the potential for Ten Hag to be fired, but honestly I hope Ten Hag can improve everything and in the end Manchester United's performance continues to improve.

For me, I really don't think Manchester United would create too much changes this season, though anything can happen but judging from what transpired last season with the team struggling to get a win even when they play at home, I think this Manchester United team has a fundamental problem which has to do with those at the helm of affairs, the club is being run like a business centre and not a football club, and at such may not get the kind of results that the fans are yearning for, and this is what led to the club not being able to make it to the champions League playoff's because obviously they do not have prerequisite players to play them to qualification.  I heard Ten hag have been given huge amount to enter the transfer window and get players, let's just hope the RED DEVILS will get back to winning ways with this set new players coming.

[Farma]

Jonathan Tah? He is strongly linked with a move to Bayern Munich. He wants Bayern Munich and they want him as well, all Manchester United did was to inquire about the player, no further advances has been made for him. He was part of the players that helped Bayern Leverkusen win the Bundesliga League Competition last season. I haven't watched him closely so I cannot say what I don't know. I agree with you, Erik Ten Hag needs a strong base to thrive, it was key to success in his first season for the red devils ( Manchester United )

So, that is the problem for Man United because they have to compete with Bayern Munich to be able to recruit this player. Apart from that, Bayern Munich will not give up on making an offer to Leverkusen at a higher price, while Manchester United doesn't seem to be able to make a higher offer than Bayern Munich.
Until now there has been no decision regarding either of them, but I really hope that Man United can finally recruit these player considering that the club really needs a defender.

Manchester United have just completed their deal with the defender from Lille Yoro and his arrival has certainly begun to satisfy Man United in their defense, and Man United have also just extended their contract with Evans Jonny with this they have definitely withdrawn from the race to sign the Bayer defender Leverkusen Jonathan Tah, currently Man United is focusing on selling players who are less competitive to raise money for them to make another transfer because Man United is also not a team that has a lot of money and at the start they said they would focus on selling players and improving the quality of their academy players to be included in the main team.
Yoro's presence certainly brings satisfaction because the young player is very good at defending in his statistics with Lille also saying he is an extraordinary player in defense so now Man United should focus on their midfield and attack line.

[barisbilgili]

Manchester United have just completed their deal with the defender from Lille Yoro and his arrival has certainly begun to satisfy Man United in their defense, and Man United have also just extended their contract with Evans Jonny with this they have definitely withdrawn from the race to sign the Bayer defender Leverkusen Jonathan Tah, currently Man United is focusing on selling players who are less competitive to raise money for them to make another transfer because Man United is also not a team that has a lot of money and at the start they said they would focus on selling players and improving the quality of their academy players to be included in the main team.
Yoro's presence certainly brings satisfaction because the young player is very good at defending in his statistics with Lille also saying he is an extraordinary player in defense so now Man United should focus on their midfield and attack line.

Manchester United is doing a good thing because it has been seen since last season that the defense is their team's weakness and now they are trying to cover this weakness.
Manchester United is a team that continues to improve for the next season, that is a positive thing and the transfer market is still long, making it more likely that Manchester United will improve their team, if they continue to make changes to their squad, I am quite optimistic that Manchester United could be better next season.

[Adiljutt156]

Do you guys watch this game? I watched it, and yeah, Ten Hag's team needs time to build their chemistry. The result wasn't bad. But, they were against a mediocre team. It's part of Ten Hag's process of rebuilding his club. And absolutely nothing wrong with this result achieved by Manchester United in this game. The first and youth team squads needed minutes, and that’s all. United played so damn well in the first half, but the second half was boring enough to watch. I can still understand it. This is the first pre-season game, and I shouldn't have big expectations for Manchester United.

Glad to see Ten Hag is trying to give minutes to so many young players of Manchester United. It seems Ten Hag is trying to identify which young player will be able to step up into the main team. I consider this game is about a fitness for all young players of Manchester United. Vitek showed whether he is worthy enough to be considered. He deserved a clean sheet, but he was not lucky enough in that game.

This game is good enough to give cardio to the young players of Manchester United.

The match between Man United and Rosenborg football team was excellent and we saw a great competition but We are expecting that Man United football team will win this match but that didn't happen and we saw different result. Rosenborg team won by 1-0 and they did single goal of match and after that they played defensive and Man United football team could not do any goal because Rosenborg team strategy was osum and they played like team and all team was struggling for the win. The passes of Rosenborg team were  more in number and all team gave passes and after that we saw good result but we know that Man United team is not small team and Rosenborg team shots were 22 and from which only 7 were on target. The  shots of Man united were 5 and from which only 2 were on target .

[SmartCharpa]

Source : Jonathan Tah-MU
If Man United has made a lot of improvements I believe their performance will improve but if they keep the existing players like last season I'm not sure Man United will perform well next season (IMO).

Jonathan Tah is just interested in joining Bayern Munich, I haven't heard anything about joining Manchester United. But, if that's the case, I doubt Manchester United would request for the player any longer because they've already bought a new center back from Lille, even though there was a lot of drama before they got the player, since Real Madrid is also interested in signing the players. Everyone is wondering whether Manchester United will do better next season or not, but we'll see how things go.

Rosenborg Football team won the match against Man United football team.  Match was fighting and both teams gave their hundred percent to win the match. N. E. J. Holm  was a top performer of the match because he did single goal of the game and no one could goal after the first goal.  Match was performed in Lerkendal Stadion stadium and that stadium was lucky for Rosenborg team.  Many Man United fans expected that they will win this match but that was only expectation and that was not reality. The stat of Rosenborg team was more stronger than Manchester United team and Rosenborg team played 22 shots in the match from which  7 were on target and that possession percentage of Rosenborg was also high and that was 55 percent. The were best in all things and that's why they are winners of the match and  Man United are loser of this match.

Despite the fact that it was a pre-season match, I did not expect Manchester United to finish the game without scoring a goal, even though some of their key players were substituted in the second half, I think the attacking players Manchester United had in that game are capable of scoring goals. I believe the midfielders and several important players were absent, but Manchester United could do more in their games, some player's performances during the pre-season decide how they will perform during the season. Rosenborg had 22 shots, 7 were on target, while Manchester United had 5 with two of them on target. This is only a pre-season game, but I'm already worried about Manchester United's performance next season.

[naira]

This is exactly what we are talking but some people see it as baseless criticism. This preseason games are not just about the results. It is a game that allows teams to test their tactics before season starts and its results has no any impact. Both teams played well actually but were there any tactics employed by Manchester United better than last season? The answer is obviously NO!

United had the same issues last season. They literally can’t pull down the ball and play through the midfield, they only pass it around the back and then play a long pass that often results to lose of possession. By now, it’s expected of Ten hang to have a defined pattern of playing but nothing actually seems to change for now.

I think that people wants Manchester United to play as best as possible in any kind of match and never do experiment except in training, while the reality experiment must be tried in everything, start from training, friendly match and then the official match if it works.

Expecting a strategy will work after it successfully in training isn't make sense because the pressure is completely different.

I have no issue to see a team lose against weak team in friendly match.

Besides it would be too much if anyone took friendly matches seriously. Winning or losing won't have any impact, so I'm not interested in watching it and Manchester United is still in the adjustment stage, Erik Ten Hag also seems to want to experiment. For Rosenborg this victory is actually a positive thing, it motivates them to be able to play even better, plus it is an honor against a giant EPL club. For Rosenborg this is a rare match that not all clubs can play.

[BABY SHOES]

Hopefully Man United won't play that bad when the season starts. And actually in the pre-season match against Rosenborg we saw that Man United did not play with their best squad completely because in that match Man United also gave the young players the opportunity to play. So I really understand these results. But if ten Hag is able to make a good strategy then even with young players he should be able to show a better game than that.

Ha! Nothing is changing at Old Trafford as long as they still employ Erik Ten Hag.

Also, I don't know why you all are taking pre-season results too seriously. It is common for games like this to end in draws or defeats, since they are not playing a full-strength XI. Rather, the objective is for the manager to figure out what tactics will work and not work at the beginning of the season, and which players he should use for that.

There are still doubts about Erik Ten Hag but the club management believes in Erik Ten Hag and several staff from the Netherlands have brought Ten Hag's wishes.

Pre-season matches can be said to be matches for fun and it's just young players testing their skills on the pitch by looking at Erik Ten Hag's prospects for the players who will be brought in later, don't be surprised if you lose to Manchester United sometimes it's embarrassing sometimes we have to understand it.

[Jatiluhung]

Besides it would be too much if anyone took friendly matches seriously. Winning or losing won't have any impact, so I'm not interested in watching it and Manchester United is still in the adjustment stage, Erik Ten Hag also seems to want to experiment. For Rosenborg this victory is actually a positive thing, it motivates them to be able to play even better, plus it is an honor against a giant EPL club. For Rosenborg this is a rare match that not all clubs can play.

For Rosenborg, this match is certainly a rare opportunity that they must take advantage of to test their strength. It's just that I quite understand the disappointment of some people about the results of the match. Because even though Erik Ten Hag only played young players, several main players were withdrawn and replaced in this match. But what I can say now is that it means Man United's young players have lost in quality to Rosenborg's players. So in essence Man United does not have good strength in their second layer and among their young players. Or it could also be because of the bad strategy used by Ten Hag. After the match, Ten Hag also spoke and he felt that Man United should be able to play more than that. Which means he also didn't expect this result. Yes, it was only a friendly match, but we can also make some assessments from this match. Just like Ten Hag who also definitely assesses each player and the results of the match.

[Nheer]

Hopefully Man United won't play that bad when the season starts. And actually in the pre-season match against Rosenborg we saw that Man United did not play with their best squad completely because in that match Man United also gave the young players the opportunity to play. So I really understand these results. But if ten Hag is able to make a good strategy then even with young players he should be able to show a better game than that.

Ha! Nothing is changing at Old Trafford as long as they still employ Erik Ten Hag.

Also, I don't know why you all are taking pre-season results too seriously. It is common for games like this to end in draws or defeats, since they are not playing a full-strength XI. Rather, the objective is for the manager to figure out what tactics will work and not work at the beginning of the season, and which players he should use for that.

Same thing i thought too, the philosophy of Ten Hag will not change anything at Old Trafford that’s if he even has one because since the beginning of his time we have not noticed anything different and it even seem like their performance is depreciating every year. He doesn’t seem to be teaching the players anything and the same thing is still happening at the pre season games.

Preseason games are meant to workout the best strategy and best players to use ahead of next season and so preseason games are not to be taken seriously as some strategy will fail but Ten Hag should be trying things out with more experienced players instead of trying out a whole bunch of youngsters who still need time to develop. It’s not bad to give youngsters chance but you shouldn’t rely fully on them so they can learn from older players.