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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 85 (45.5%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.6%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.9%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (7%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 187

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October 25, 2022, 10:22:48 AM
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What do you mean here is Mane?
Come on it's almost the middle of the season and you still can't forget Mane? They have reached an agreement and it can no longer be contested why should it always be a problem.
What Liverpool must do now is to continue to make breakthroughs so that their performance is consistent as before rather than continue to make regrets with just one player who clearly refused a contract extension where this would be a loss too if Liverpool forced.
The reason why people are still talking about Sadio Mane and Liverpool is because since the player left Liverpool has not been doing well. This is Liverpool that was really excellent last season that Mane was in the team. Immediately after his departure everything fell apart. Also Mane himself has not been finding it so smooth and easy in Bayern Munich as he used to find in Liverpool.
This all means that it was not a very right decision for the club and the player to path in the way they did after some years of great success together.

I understand what you mean and I also know by looking at Liverpool's performance now it's not very good.
But on the other hand, we actually have to be aware that this is based on several factors and not just about Mane.
Indeed, Mane's absence in terms of being one of the causes, but on the other hand we also have to know that the initial injury problem that occurred to Jota and the decline in Salah's quality and Nunez's lack of good adaptation was also a problem so it was not necessarily based on Mane's departure because I think this is one of Liverpool's many obstacles.

I would add that there is also some cyclicality at work sometimes. Relationships can also wear out over time and a coach might be able to motivate the players with certain speeches only so often. It is still beyond me how Ferguson managed to be so successful at Manchester United for so long. When Klopp was in Dortmund there was a moment in time when it was just a done project. There wasn't much more synergy to be exploited between Klopp and Dortmund.That's a big question I ask myself whether this might be the case for Klopp and Liverpool as well. The team has gone through so crazy high emotional moments, missing the PL title against City by a point after a perfect season, losing the CL final against Madrid and then turning things around (0-3) against Barcelona, winning the title in the CL and so on. To me when I watch Liverpool, it's a different Liverpool. No doubt they are still world class, but this few percentage points seem to be missing that put them apart from the rest over the last couple of years.

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October 25, 2022, 10:33:13 AM
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I think Southampton is a team that can hurt other teams from the top from time to time. Sometimes they just get destroyed, and sometimes you can't crack their defense and they manage to make it extremely hard for the opponent. This was such a game and Arsenal lost steam over the course of the game.
Southampton have often surprised the top teams so far even though they have continued to experience adversity but when facing big teams they actually played very well like against arsenal, I think actually in the match against arsenal, southampton played quite well even though they were 1 goal behind but they were able to pressing arsenal even so that the score ended up being 1-1, playing at home, southampton had higher morale and even at the end of the match, southampton almost added the score but unfortunately they missed a lot of chances.

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October 25, 2022, 12:09:39 PM
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Completely take Liverpool out of the league of the club's you have mentioned they don't look good so far they have been struggling game after game. I am sure that they will struggle in the champions league still. Tottenham also have been declining so far if you look you can't judge really but you cannot skip Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea and United in the list of club's for the top four.
Lol, so when a top club has suffer losses for one match only it's considered as declining? This is football dude, anything is possible to happen including a highest position club against the club in the lowest position. If Liverpool and Tottenham suffer losses for 3 times in a row, that's what their performance are declining. Man United wouldn't reach top four position in Premier League, there's many thing need to be fixed and evaluated.
The Premier League is known to be the most competitive. I think it's too early to judge the success of a team. The Premier League hasn't even entered the middle of the season, so things that are beyond reason are bound to happen. I also see Arsenal are not very strong at the top until the end of the season, maybe the top position will be taken over by Manchester City.

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October 25, 2022, 12:20:08 PM
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If we're talking about a chance for teams to get to the top four, it won't be easy, but there are some who will struggle to get it, and I'm sure Chelsea will take third or fourth before the end of the season, Liverpool may come close but I don't think they have the ability to make it, and I don't want to say Manchester United are better than them, but their spirit is far luckier in most of their games.
The Premier League top four will be difficult to predict this season, and I believe we will have to wait at least a half-season to find out who will be able to compete in the Champions League next season.
Chelsea, Liverpool, and Manchester United are also qualified, but due to their current form, we will have some reservations about them. However, it is clear that all of these mentioned teams are improving and will do everything in their power to make it to the Champions League, even though we know that some will have to wait and play in the Europa League.


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Is this the start of Arsenal's decline? Manchester City, who will face Leicester City the next week, will likely overtake Arsenal in the standings since they will win that game more easily than Arsenal when they play against Nottingham Forest.
A draw against Southampton away is not a poor performance because Southampton is a very good team and they beat Chelsea, so we cannot conclude that it's a declining time for them, because Arsenal team is made up of young players who are eager to bring home at least one trophy this season, and their primary goal is to return to the Champions League after an almost eight-year absence.

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October 25, 2022, 12:38:46 PM
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The most effective manager Man United has ever had is Ten Hag. There is something unique about this man at the Manchester United building. Though they don't have that prolific striker who can score on every single opportunity created into goal. ManU need a serious striker because frequently they routinely blow many opportunities. Coach not to blame for everything, though. We're still early stages so yet time left to develop in both team and Premier League rankings.
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October 25, 2022, 12:44:17 PM
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The most effective manager Man United has ever had is Ten Hag. There is something unique about this man at the Manchester United building. Though they don't have that prolific striker who can score on every single opportunity created into goal. ManU need a serious striker because frequently they routinely blow many opportunities. Coach not to blame for everything, though. We're still early stages so yet time left to develop in both team and Premier League rankings.

Of course, he is an effective coach, but the performance of the team is not very good at the moment, we can say that they lost a lot of points even though they did not lose a match in the last weeks. Manchester United has not been playing good football as expected for a long time. Also, because he is not on good terms with Ronaldo, the coach may have some problems, the fans are not very happy with the current situation. It has become very difficult to make the right decision regarding Ronaldo Smiley

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October 25, 2022, 12:51:49 PM
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The most effective manager Man United has ever had is Ten Hag. There is something unique about this man at the Manchester United building. Though they don't have that prolific striker who can score on every single opportunity created into goal. ManU need a serious striker because frequently they routinely blow many opportunities. Coach not to blame for everything, though. We're still early stages so yet time left to develop in both team and Premier League rankings.

If one should make comparisons, he is the best since Jose Mourinho left United. Sir Alex Ferguson was the best next to Jose Mourinho, Van Gaal, Ole Gunner Solskjear and lastly Ragnick. They should do all they can to make sure he gets those player's he wants he has a good plan makes the right substitute and brings in the right motivation in them, United should be happy for what they have. The manager should be given enough money to bring in talented names who can do anything for the United Club side.
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October 25, 2022, 12:54:39 PM
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The most effective manager Man United has ever had is Ten Hag. There is something unique about this man at the Manchester United building. Though they don't have that prolific striker who can score on every single opportunity created into goal. ManU need a serious striker because frequently they routinely blow many opportunities. Coach not to blame for everything, though. We're still early stages so yet time left to develop in both team and Premier League rankings.

Of course, he is an effective coach, but the performance of the team is not very good at the moment, we can say that they lost a lot of points even though they did not lose a match in the last weeks. Manchester United has not been playing good football as expected for a long time. Also, because he is not on good terms with Ronaldo, the coach may have some problems, the fans are not very happy with the current situation. It has become very difficult to make the right decision regarding Ronaldo Smiley

I think in January Ronaldo will move away from Manchester United and from what I expect and what is being heard in unofficial channels is that most probably he will move at Chelsea.Now if this is true that would be a great addition to the Chelsea team.

Chelsea since the coming of the new coach have played relatively better but they are failing to score many goals which is a clear indicator that they need a top scorer,someone like Ronaldo would be a great fit for them despite his age that is near 38 now.

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October 25, 2022, 01:06:22 PM
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I think that this isn't the start of a decline for Arsenal at all. Just because they lost points in one match we shouldn't doubt them quickly.

So far they lost points in only two matches and one of them was a defeat against Manchester United in Old Trafford. I don't blame them too much for that loss also because Manchester United were really great at keeping them at the level they wanted. Of course Arsenal will need to improve their performance in big matches to be able to become more serious for the league title. Winning against smaller teams isn't enough for a team to become the champions in the end. Soon there is a Chelsea - Arsenal match also. We will see how good they will be there.

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October 25, 2022, 01:12:37 PM
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Tottenham risks losing their top 4 position as they suffer two consecutive defeats, and their point gap continues to shrink! Conte needs to change, his tactics are so horrible to watch, which is only draining the club. With a win against Tottenham, Newcastle United enters the top four.
It's too early to call for the sack of Conte. The league is still open for any club to compete for the top 4 positions. By the way, no club in the premier league is a small club. Football matches have no respect for any club. It can humble a big or a small team. A big club can lose to a small club, but that doesn't mean that they have lost focus on competing for the top 4 positions. This is the 13week of EPL. Tottenham can still do well in their upcoming matches


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I was aware to Newcastle strength since last season after acquired by the Saudi Arabian Consortium in january they has clever movement on winter transfer window with buy some of key players and the transfer was very effective because Newcastle can avoid relegation zone and survive at Premier league and they had starting this season with unsatisfied performance but gradually Howe has successfully to improved Newcastle performance and 4th positions was belongs to them so far and i think big teams should be careful to them because they showed as dark horses team who hard to beat and Howe doesn't need to spend a lot of money this season but he can managed Newcastle performance for each matches
Newcastle United is increasingly putting pressure on the big teams in this season competition, this is none other than after they managed to provide increasingly fierce resistance when meeting big teams and one of them was the victory from Tottenham and the draw against Manchester United which gave the impression to the big teams that  they will be ready to provide competition at the top of the standings this season. But the positive trend from newscastle united is very much in contrast to what happened to brighton because since the beginning of this season brighton has appeared quite stunning but of entering week 11 brighton was thrown from the top 4 to rank 9 with 15 points.

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The reason why people are still talking about Sadio Mane and Liverpool is because since the player left Liverpool has not been doing well. This is Liverpool that was really excellent last season that Mane was in the team. Immediately after his departure everything fell apart. Also Mane himself has not been finding it so smooth and easy in Bayern Munich as he used to find in Liverpool.
This all means that it was not a very right decision for the club and the player to path in the way they did after some years of great success together.

I understand what you mean and I also know by looking at Liverpool's performance now it's not very good.
But on the other hand, we actually have to be aware that this is based on several factors and not just about Mane.
Indeed, Mane's absence in terms of being one of the causes, but on the other hand we also have to know that the initial injury problem that occurred to Jota and the decline in Salah's quality and Nunez's lack of good adaptation was also a problem so it was not necessarily based on Mane's departure because I think this is one of Liverpool's many obstacles.

I would add that there is also some cyclicality at work sometimes. Relationships can also wear out over time and a coach might be able to motivate the players with certain speeches only so often. It is still beyond me how Ferguson managed to be so successful at Manchester United for so long. When Klopp was in Dortmund there was a moment in time when it was just a done project. There wasn't much more synergy to be exploited between Klopp and Dortmund.That's a big question I ask myself whether this might be the case for Klopp and Liverpool as well. The team has gone through so crazy high emotional moments, missing the PL title against City by a point after a perfect season, losing the CL final against Madrid and then turning things around (0-3) against Barcelona, winning the title in the CL and so on. To me when I watch Liverpool, it's a different Liverpool. No doubt they are still world class, but this few percentage points seem to be missing that put them apart from the rest over the last couple of years.
Therefore, we do regret Liverpool's performance this season but things like this can't blame just one option for losing Mane because we know that Liverpool's problems don't only come from that.

And again there are some things like Klopp's 7 season curse which is currently being discussed by some media even though I don't really believe in things like this, but indeed if you look at things like now and some of Klopp's notes at the previous club, this can also be a suggestion to be a good suggestion. bad for Klopp.

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October 25, 2022, 01:50:07 PM
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Of course, he is an effective coach, but the performance of the team is not very good at the moment, we can say that they lost a lot of points even though they did not lose a match in the last weeks. Manchester United has not been playing good football as expected for a long time. Also, because he is not on good terms with Ronaldo, the coach may have some problems, the fans are not very happy with the current situation. It has become very difficult to make the right decision regarding Ronaldo Smiley

I think in January Ronaldo will move away from Manchester United and from what I expect and what is being heard in unofficial channels is that most probably he will move at Chelsea.Now if this is true that would be a great addition to the Chelsea team.

Chelsea since the coming of the new coach have played relatively better but they are failing to score many goals which is a clear indicator that they need a top scorer,someone like Ronaldo would be a great fit for them despite his age that is near 38 now.
All of this is still just a rumor, after the incident when Manchester United against Tottenham, rumors of Ronaldo move were getting louder and louder. Manchester United have started to open to releasing Ronaldo, while on the other hand Chelsea will be willing to accommodate Ronaldo.
If this transfer happened it would be big news in English football as Ronaldo moved to rivals Manchester United. Manchester City fans will sneer at Ronaldo because they are considered to have betrayed Manchester United, the same thing happened when Figo decided to move from Barcelona to play for Real Madrid.

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October 25, 2022, 02:15:55 PM
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Manchester United have confirmed that Cristiano Ronaldo had returned to full squad training on Tuesday in preparation for Thursday's Europa League clash against the Sheriff.

Previously, manager Erik ten Hag had asked Ronaldo to meet with him immediately for talks as the Portugal international striker had left the bench and Old Trafford before the end of the game when United beat Tottenham last week, resulting in him being left out of the squads
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October 25, 2022, 02:18:30 PM
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The most effective manager Man United has ever had is Ten Hag. There is something unique about this man at the Manchester United building. Though they don't have that prolific striker who can score on every single opportunity created into goal. ManU need a serious striker because frequently they routinely blow many opportunities. Coach not to blame for everything, though. We're still early stages so yet time left to develop in both team and Premier League rankings.

Of course, he is an effective coach, but the performance of the team is not very good at the moment, we can say that they lost a lot of points even though they did not lose a match in the last weeks. Manchester United has not been playing good football as expected for a long time. Also, because he is not on good terms with Ronaldo, the coach may have some problems, the fans are not very happy with the current situation. It has become very difficult to make the right decision regarding Ronaldo Smiley
I think it's useless if it's in good management but Ten Hag's strikers are not qualified in terms of execution. Look at the last 2 matches Rashford has lost his way and his shots on goal are totally weak. Sancho instead became both Fernandes and Rashford who were just as selfish as wanting to score goals from a distance to no avail. I admit Ten Hag is already on the right path for Man United but that doesn't mean forcing young players to continue with ambitions with insufficient capacity. Still, Manchester United does need a striker with 2 capacities, both as an executor and as an assist. Holding the straight draw was not at all enough to prove the real Manchester United.

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October 25, 2022, 03:15:44 PM
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Even right now Manchester United are facing problem in consistency but still we have to praise new coach and his hard work for this team they are doing amazing job and if they are able to keep this momentum then surely they can improve their performance which could be helpful like we have from Arteta and Klopp both are having amazing time after sticking with their strategy and players so here now Ten Haq factor working for Manchester United, and they are able to find good opportunities which are helping them.

Most chances Cristiano Ronaldo factor is going to end after world cup, and they will allow him for any other club which is suitable for both parties because with current performance and development which is going without him doing good, and they can leave him for his better future as well.

So far in my opinion, I think they have break even because if you look at Manchester United statistic, they have conceded an equal amount of goal they have won leaving them with 6 won matches, drawn 2 and loss 3 and that has left them on the sixth place on the table with an aggregate of 20 points, only a single point difference between them away from Chelsea, and Tottenham. They are going to make their first encounter with West Ham next week and with the little they have played, it will be easier for them to overcome any of the above team on the table.

I cannot say Manchester United has had a good ride and performance in EPL this summer, it is below average compare to what they are known for in the past, Erik need to do better irrespective of the players he have available.

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October 25, 2022, 03:45:07 PM
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It will be a Shame if Liverpool didn't qualify for the champions League position next season, because the way they are going I don't think there is much hope for them, even right now the likes of Manchester United are better than them in terms of position and form same with Chelsea, I think if they continue like this till November then is finished for them, I can't believe Sadio mane absence can affect them like this, he is truly missed at anfield, I know some section of the fans will be asking their selves why is it not Mohamed Salah that left us.

In fact, the situation in the Premier League is such that someone will be offended in any case. And not just "we were weak and failed", the nuance is that some strong team in any case should be outside the Champions League zone. Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, Tottenham, City, United - that's six teams, and then there's Newcastle that could potentially intervene in the fight. And there are only 4 places in the Champions League  Smiley

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October 25, 2022, 04:12:05 PM
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Manchester United have confirmed that Cristiano Ronaldo had returned to full squad training on Tuesday in preparation for Thursday's Europa League clash against the Sheriff.

Previously, manager Erik ten Hag had asked Ronaldo to meet with him immediately for talks as the Portugal international striker had left the bench and Old Trafford before the end of the game when United beat Tottenham last week, resulting in him being left out of the squads
I hope ronaldo doesn't repeat that in the rest of the season, there's been a lot of drama going on with him starting from transfer issues and his behavior this season. He must be able to accept all of Erik directions in every game and the match against the Sheriff could be a come back for him to be able to contribute greatly to his team. There are a lot of rumors circulating on social media where Ronaldo will be rumored to leave in the January window but I don't think this will disturb his concentration on the pitch. He is a role model for young players in the Manchester United squad and he must be mature for all decisions made by Erik Ten Hag.

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October 25, 2022, 04:52:06 PM
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Therefore, we do regret Liverpool's performance this season but things like this can't blame just one option for losing Mane because we know that Liverpool's problems don't only come from that.

And again there are some things like Klopp's 7 season curse which is currently being discussed by some media even though I don't really believe in things like this, but indeed if you look at things like now and some of Klopp's notes at the previous club, this can also be a suggestion to be a good suggestion. bad for Klopp.

Honestly Liverpool performance this season has been so poor compared with their previous performances during when Sadio Mane was present in the club, I do think that Sadio Mane departure from the club has a great impact to what Liverpool is currently suffering.
In other words, We should also consider that there are still more 27 premier league matches to play and with the performance of Liver pool against the previous Premier league Champions Manchester City, I think Liverpool have more opportunities to compete for the first position or qualify for UEFA Champions league next year .

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The Premier League is known to be the most competitive. I think it's too early to judge the success of a team. The Premier League hasn't even entered the middle of the season, so things that are beyond reason are bound to happen. I also see Arsenal are not very strong at the top until the end of the season, maybe the top position will be taken over by Manchester City.
It is very logical if Manchester City took over the top position of the standings from Arsenal, because the second point is also not too far away and Arsenal are actually not in a safe position this season because only by losing one game, Arsenal will be immediately followed by Manchester City at the top. I say this is logical because Manchester City have players who are very prolific in scoring goals when the game goes on, he is Haaland who has so far been very often seen in scoring goals for Manchester City in every game.

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