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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.4%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.6%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 189

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November 18, 2023, 10:32:32 AM
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Looking their' recent performance, I don't think they will relegated. I believe they will comeback, but after all Everton is just Everton, they can't going up to reach top 7 and will end near bottom position.

However I remember before this season started, many people were praise Burnley and they think Burnley could be a new contender, but they're currently stay at the lowest position lol.
Never mind Burnley, Manchester United, which previously ended the season in 3rd place last season, also performed below expectations in the first 12 matches this season. Everything is difficult to predict, even teams that were quite doubtful last season have performed so well this season, such as Tottenham and Liverpool.

Everton are in the relegation zone not because their performance is too bad, but they were deducted 10 points for violating FFP. Of course it has taken a toll on them this season, but Everton can still do their best and recover from it all before the season is over. I don't know what will happen to Manchester City and Chelsea if they are also found to be in breach, but the current rumors are anything but certain.

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November 18, 2023, 10:37:10 AM
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Everton, which previously collected 14 points and was in 14th position in the standings, has now been thrown into the temporary relegation zone after being proven to have violated the FFP. The reduction of 10 points means that Everton now only get 4 points and they have to fight again to collect points in each match in order to be free from the relegation zone. This is the punishment that Everton must accept and it seems that they cannot do anything because the federation has decided that. I feel that Everton, who usually finish at the bottom of the table every season, now still have to repeat the same thing and of course they have to remain strong to get through this dark period.
Looking their' recent performance, I don't think they will relegated. I believe they will comeback, but after all Everton is just Everton, they can't going up to reach top 7 and will end near bottom position.
However I remember before this season started, many people were praise Burnley and they think Burnley could be a new contender, but they're currently stay at the lowest position lol.
Even after losing 10 points, I think Everton can stay at a safe distance from the relegation zone. If players lose confidence after losing 10 points.
Everton have won three of their last five matches and lost just one. And if they can maintain such consistency, they will be able to get out of the relegation zone in the next few matches. Because LutonTown, who is 17th in the table, has only 6 points. If Everton wins their next match, they have a chance to move to 17th place in the table. Everton is also 5 points behind from Bournemouth, who are in 16th place in the table. Bournemouth and Luton Town's performances are very poor. And so I'd say we'll see Everton 16th/17th in the table very soon.
It's easier said than done and don't forget that this sporting penalty has a psychological effect on the players because the offence of the club is what they are being punished for. It's just like a wasted season for them as nothing serious is sure for them this season with this kind of penalty. It's a very good reason to be angry with the club and its management, however, the management of the players at this time is crucial, and it would take very good managerial skills to calm them internally and build their confidence back in the club. You can use the Juventus case as an example, it took them several weeks before they could buckle up as the players might have written off the season and started playing anyhow.
But with the right mental state, they might be able to get out of the relegation zone which I believe can't be a compulsion for the players unless the club is wise to deal with them carefully. You also have to consider the opponent they will face in recent months to draw the conclusion. They will meet Man U in the next 2 weeks, I hope they are in their right mental state by then, if not, the yearning Man U will devour them.

I agree with you that the punishment given to the club affects the mentality of their players. And that's why I said that if the players lose confidence because of this punishment, then they can do well in the next matches. It is not possible to guarantee that Everton will do well. But if the players are confident they are more likely to do well now. Because their performance in the last matches was quite good.

Last season in Serie A we saw a 15-point deduction from Juventus. Even so, the team finished seventh in the table. Their performance was quite good. The Everton coach must now try to strengthen the players mentally. Make them confident. I believe if the players are confident it will be very easy for Everton to get out of the relegation zone.

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November 18, 2023, 10:50:30 AM
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Some of the fans are concluding based on emotions, which is very wrong because emotions can never lead you to say the truth. But truth be told, Manchester United is too big for Ten Hag, which is why he is not able to put things in place to bring the best result for Manchester United; some fans were able to understand, while others are still arguing blindly that he is a good coach that will bring victory back to Old Trafford.

Ten Hag actually tried last season to win a trophy for United, but his thinking ability as a coach is not world-class thinking because, from his way of substitution, he is not proving himself as world-class coach due to some errors he does make, which he usually refers to as tactics whenever he is doing his post-match conference. Manchester United need to sack Ten Hag for them to become the world-class team they used to be.
I don't think you're right when you said the team is too big for Erik Ten Hag, cause same person managed them last season, qualified for the UCL, won the Caraboa Cup,  played the FA Cup final, so if the club was big for him like you claimed do you think the club would had gone that far under him, we've not even talked about the good record he had at Old Trafford last season, Erik Ten Hag might have been wrong with his choices of decision several times this season but the problem is not generally from him and fans should learn to understand that.

 I think he's really affected by the general crisis affecting the club, from the injury crisis to sale process, to the issues with Sancho and several other players, what he needs is time to get them to start doing better and I believe they'll bounce back sooner or later, sacking Ten Hag might not change anything if the Glaziers are still in charge of handling the sporting activities of the club.

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November 18, 2023, 10:50:42 AM
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I actually highly doubt that Manchester United is going to find themselves at the top of the table towards the end of the season. I genuinely doubt that because the coach has definitely tried a lot to bring in good results. He has tried different tactics, but nothing seems to actually work. And at this point, if Manchester United fans actually do not understand that the coach is just not as good as they are thinking, I have to say it is Copium. They need to change the current coach that they have. But for some reason, it feels like they are just too dumb to accept the fact. Of course, there are always going to be problems in the squad. But that does not mean their results are going to be that bad.

When he was still at Ajax, Ten Hag was really good, especially when he first started coaching Man Utd, he showed good results, but this season, Man Utd's performance is really bad, he really seems to have failed to build a good team, especially since Man Utd's management has had issues quite annoyed with the results that Man Utd has obtained in the last few matches. Changing the coach might be the best option, just look at Tottenham's performance, when they dare to take big action by training a replacement then their performance is quite good at the moment, but is there a strong candidate who can train Man Utd to be better than now?



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November 18, 2023, 10:56:10 AM
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Even though Manchester United is often criticized for their less than consistent performances, it seems they are doing a good job by recording 5 wins with the highest points. When compared with other teams such as Liverpool and Manchester City, the difference is only small, but at least Manchester United have had better results in some of these matches. Apart from that, it is a fact that Manchester United had an easy match against a team that they should have been able to beat and that is why they got the highest points in this result compared to other teams. Another fact is that they are still in 6th position so far, it is undeniable and Erik ten Hag still has a long way to go to shorten the difference in points in the standings from his competitors.

Because they are still in a position where they can move up to a different spot if they play well in their upcoming games, Manchester United still has a chance to compete in the Champions League the following season. Although the team is not in good shape right now and this is not the first time we have seen a team that didn't perform well, they know how to play and I still think they are the best team in the Premier League. Chelsea's current performance is worse than that of Manchester United's from the previous season, primarily due to their matches against Arsenal and Manchester City, both of which Chelsea cannot defeat.

The only issue I have with Manchester United is their coach, Erik Teg Hag, who is responsible for the team's current look. During the player transfer window, the coach performed admirably, bringing in quality players who will help the team advance. However, purchasing Casemiro and Amrabat is a bad move for Manchester United, as the team needs younger players. Additionally, the coach's treatment of certain players is also questionable; Sancho did not deserve to be treated that way. As a coach, you should also know how to communicate with your players, as they are the most important members of the team.

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November 18, 2023, 11:17:22 AM
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Last season, Everton was only able to finish in 17th place in the EPL standings by collecting 36 points, meaning they finished one level above the degradation zone. The points deduction this time means that Sean Dyche squad has to fight harder to get out of the degradation zone. I am very sure they will not be degradation next season. However, looking at their future match schedule, it looks like their efforts will be really difficult.
Regardless of anything in recent seasond it has been difficult for Everton to get out of the zone that is always in trouble. After being in the middle of the table in 2020/21 they seemed to lose their identity and in the last 2 season they were always stranded at the end of the limit before relegation although they  were still luck  enough to avoid relegation in the previous 2 seasons but this kind of luck willn't be able to last until the end.

Currently they are still very difficult to maintain the quality of their performance which make  this even more complicated but indeed the chance is still there,  it's just that if you push your luck too much this will not end well. 

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November 18, 2023, 11:44:51 AM
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Everton, which previously collected 14 points and was in 14th position in the standings, has now been thrown into the temporary relegation zone after being proven to have violated the FFP. The reduction of 10 points means that Everton now only get 4 points and they have to fight again to collect points in each match in order to be free from the relegation zone. This is the punishment that Everton must accept and it seems that they cannot do anything because the federation has decided that. I feel that Everton, who usually finish at the bottom of the table every season, now still have to repeat the same thing and of course they have to remain strong to get through this dark period.
What exactly is going on? Reading trends of FFP docking Everton 14 points and they're presently in the relegation zone, we know Everton are already struggling this season, so adding the points deduction would undoubtedly cause them to glide a great deal deeper. This is disastrous for the club and the fans; how will they manage this season, knowing extremely well that they had a good thing going and now have to start from scratch? Sean Dyche, the manager of the Toffees, will strengthen his game strategies and players because that is the only way to lift his club to be effective norms.

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Its very bad news for Everton after 10 points deducting for breaching financial rule, still have time for appeal with points deduction but its very difficult with 10 points cut off and Everton position dropped drastically to 19th standings position behind only 4 points. Premier League most details with profitability and  sustainability rules (PSRs) but its really late due this cases happened last season but announced or get suspend right now when Everton have playing 12 matches.

Still have opportunity for Everton get less points deduction with appeal from 10 points become less points regarding when Juventus got first time suspended 15 points become 10 points deduction, but Juventus got suspended their points almost at the end season and close their opportunity with one place on European competition. I hope for all Premier League teams must detail with their profitability and sustainability rules (PSRs) if won't get the same deduction points like Everton.
They were starting to win games in the premier league, the coach of the club have expected that the team were done from fighting for stay in the premier League. This points deduction is very bad because it takes them back to the kind of position that they have fought so hard to let go off. Everton suffers what Juventus suffered last season. This judgement can have two effect on the team, it can either pull them together or push them further apart.

10 points is a lot and surely Everton will have problems getting back the points they lost because of the penalty during this season because this team is currently in the danger zone.
However, Everton is going to try changing the decision but it was mostly because of Leicester City and Leeds because both teams said Everton used the money to improve the team and that's why they couldn't stay in the Premier League.


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November 18, 2023, 12:48:45 PM
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Everton, which previously collected 14 points and was in 14th position in the standings, has now been thrown into the temporary relegation zone after being proven to have violated the FFP. The reduction of 10 points means that Everton now only get 4 points and they have to fight again to collect points in each match in order to be free from the relegation zone.
Everton was hit with 1 charge and sentenced to a deduction of 10 points, what will happen to Manchester City who was hit with 115 charges?

I was waiting for this question and yes, there are those who say on some social media that Manchester City should be relegated to the championship if these 115 charges are proven. However, we know that it is very difficult to punish elite teams in the English Premier League and the Manchester City case has been raised several times but still no punishment has been obtained.

After learning about what Everton experienced, Manchester City is certainly starting to worry because they are getting worse in this indictment case and in fact this is a case that must be investigated immediately so that justice in the English Premier League team is evenly distributed and does not only harm one party. Imagine what would happen with these 115 charges for Manchester City, it is certain that this team will be destroyed in an instant and its players will definitely be left behind.

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November 18, 2023, 12:53:43 PM
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Everton, which previously collected 14 points and was in 14th position in the standings, has now been thrown into the temporary relegation zone after being proven to have violated the FFP. The reduction of 10 points means that Everton now only get 4 points and they have to fight again to collect points in each match in order to be free from the relegation zone. This is the punishment that Everton must accept and it seems that they cannot do anything because the federation has decided that. I feel that Everton, who usually finish at the bottom of the table every season, now still have to repeat the same thing and of course they have to remain strong to get through this dark period.
It seems that not only Everton are being punished with points deductions, but I see rumors that Chelsea and Manchester City are also being threatened with this punishment, but we'll see if these rumors are true.

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This punishment will definitely make Everton devastated because they have to suffer the unfortunate fate that now the points they have been collecting have to be cut short due to the punishment they have to face and Everton have to fight again to secured their position in order to remain in the English league, hopefully Everton can get up and fight in the remaining matches they will face and catch up.

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November 18, 2023, 01:04:13 PM
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Everton, which previously collected 14 points and was in 14th position in the standings, has now been thrown into the temporary relegation zone after being proven to have violated the FFP. The reduction of 10 points means that Everton now only get 4 points and they have to fight again to collect points in each match in order to be free from the relegation zone. This is the punishment that Everton must accept and it seems that they cannot do anything because the federation has decided that. I feel that Everton, who usually finish at the bottom of the table every season, now still have to repeat the same thing and of course they have to remain strong to get through this dark period.
It seems that not only Everton are being punished with points deductions, but I see rumors that Chelsea and Manchester City are also being threatened with this punishment, but we'll see if these rumors are true.

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This punishment will definitely make Everton devastated because they have to suffer the unfortunate fate that now the points they have been collecting have to be cut short due to the punishment they have to face and Everton have to fight again to secured their position in order to remain in the English league, hopefully Everton can get up and fight in the remaining matches they will face and catch up.

Everton have been at the bottom of the standings for a few years now and at the end of every season they are fighting to stay in the EPL... These 10 points are very important for them because they have 14 points from 12 games... So now they are in danger of not being able to climb out of the relegation zone before the end of the season...

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I actually highly doubt that Manchester United is going to find themselves at the top of the table towards the end of the season. I genuinely doubt that because the coach has definitely tried a lot to bring in good results. He has tried different tactics, but nothing seems to actually work. And at this point, if Manchester United fans actually do not understand that the coach is just not as good as they are thinking, I have to say it is Copium. They need to change the current coach that they have. But for some reason, it feels like they are just too dumb to accept the fact. Of course, there are always going to be problems in the squad. But that does not mean their results are going to be that bad.

When he was still at Ajax, Ten Hag was really good, especially when he first started coaching Man Utd, he showed good results, but this season, Man Utd's performance is really bad, he really seems to have failed to build a good team, especially since Man Utd's management has had issues quite annoyed with the results that Man Utd has obtained in the last few matches. Changing the coach might be the best option, just look at Tottenham's performance, when they dare to take big action by training a replacement then their performance is quite good at the moment, but is there a strong candidate who can train Man Utd to be better than now?

You can't compare him when he was still in ajax with this time. Ten hag was only coaching a club in the non competitive league compared with EPL. EPL has always become the main challenge for any coach to test their capabilities.
Im not underestimating the laegue where ajax was playing but the truth if people used EPL as a way to measure how competence the coach or even the players. Competing in EPL was not easy like when ten hag was coaching ajax.
Look at him. Ten hag has been facing many difficulties. This is also making ten hag lose his focus. In fact, ten hag has been doing many things to fix the problem faced by united but he can't.
We needs also to be aware with the fact that if manchester is still at the bad era of the club. Manchester united needs to sign someone who can change the situation to be even better than before.

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I actually highly doubt that Manchester United is going to find themselves at the top of the table towards the end of the season. I genuinely doubt that because the coach has definitely tried a lot to bring in good results. He has tried different tactics, but nothing seems to actually work. And at this point, if Manchester United fans actually do not understand that the coach is just not as good as they are thinking, I have to say it is Copium. They need to change the current coach that they have. But for some reason, it feels like they are just too dumb to accept the fact. Of course, there are always going to be problems in the squad. But that does not mean their results are going to be that bad.
Some of the fans are concluding based on emotions, which is very wrong because emotions can never lead you to say the truth. But truth be told, Manchester United is too big for Ten Hag, which is why he is not able to put things in place to bring the best result for Manchester United; some fans were able to understand, while others are still arguing blindly that he is a good coach that will bring victory back to Old Trafford.

Ten Hag actually tried last season to win a trophy for United, but his thinking ability as a coach is not world-class thinking because, from his way of substitution, he is not proving himself as world-class coach due to some errors he does make, which he usually refers to as tactics whenever he is doing his post-match conference. Manchester United need to sack Ten Hag for them to become the world-class team they used to be.

If you feel like Manchester United is too big for Erik Ten Hag to handle, then eh mate,  take your CV and go do a better job than he's currently doing. I can't even wrap my head around a manager that would do a good job right now. ( Not Zizou, Maybe Hansi Flick would be peng )

He is the number one manager for Manchester United to have more wins in his first fifty games. You should also go check about Sir Alex Ferguson, he was pressured in the same way during his early coaching days for Manchester United.
Just so you know, Sir Alex Ferguson and the board members of Manchester United are fully backing Erik Ten Hag for the job. The results he had last season displayed if he has the right tools he'll use them well.

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November 18, 2023, 01:17:21 PM
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Everton, which previously collected 14 points and was in 14th position in the standings, has now been thrown into the temporary relegation zone after being proven to have violated the FFP. The reduction of 10 points means that Everton now only get 4 points and they have to fight again to collect points in each match in order to be free from the relegation zone. This is the punishment that Everton must accept and it seems that they cannot do anything because the federation has decided that. I feel that Everton, who usually finish at the bottom of the table every season, now still have to repeat the same thing and of course they have to remain strong to get through this dark period.
It seems that not only Everton are being punished with points deductions, but I see rumors that Chelsea and Manchester City are also being threatened with this punishment, but we'll see if these rumors are true.

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This punishment will definitely make Everton devastated because they have to suffer the unfortunate fate that now the points they have been collecting have to be cut short due to the punishment they have to face and Everton have to fight again to secured their position in order to remain in the English league, hopefully Everton can get up and fight in the remaining matches they will face and catch up.
Currently, Everton is the only English Premier League club that's being handed a 10-point deduction though other clubs like Chelsea and Manchester City are also under investigation but no decision has been made concerning the other two clubs but it's believed that if they're found guilty of breaching financial rules, they're also gonna face similar punishment.
The point deduction is a very big blow to Everton and has thrown to into fighting for survival in the league again this season. But in the club's statement, they said they're gonna appeal the decision but I don't know if they're gonna successfully overturn the decision when they appeal

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November 18, 2023, 01:33:01 PM
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It seems that not only Everton are being punished with points deductions, but I see rumors that Chelsea and Manchester City are also being threatened with this punishment, but we'll see if these rumors are true.

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This punishment will definitely make Everton devastated because they have to suffer the unfortunate fate that now the points they have been collecting have to be cut short due to the punishment they have to face and Everton have to fight again to secured their position in order to remain in the English league, hopefully Everton can get up and fight in the remaining matches they will face and catch up.

Do you really believe that any of the big clubs will be punished? Everton received a punishment for one incident, while City are charged with 115. If even half of the claims are proven to be true, then City should be stripped of all their titles for many years and sent to the Championship. But for some reason I think that City will not be punished even for one episode out of 115  Grin

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November 18, 2023, 01:44:58 PM
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Currently, Everton is the only English Premier League club that's being handed a 10-point deduction though other clubs like Chelsea and Manchester City are also under investigation but no decision has been made concerning the other two clubs but it's believed that if they're found guilty of breaching financial rules, they're also gonna face similar punishment.
The point deduction is a very big blow to Everton and has thrown to into fighting for survival in the league again this season. But in the club's statement, they said they're gonna appeal the decision but I don't know if they're gonna successfully overturn the decision when they appeal
Chelsea and Manchester City are both great EPL teams and sanctioning them relegation, that's part of the deal that I do not agree with. EPL will lose revenues and supporters from Manchester City and Chelsea because these are the top teams in England. I wouldn't support that idea, rather they should settle for points deduction, the exact same thing that happen to Juventus in Seria A and currently happening to Everton. Every Toffees player and supporters are hoping for good results this season,  Everton have appeal and they awaits the reply from FFP body.

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It must be really frustrating for Everton officials to see that only they are getting this punishment. Because in the past Manchester City faced this punishment "threat" many times but didn't get any officially. Double standard is being applied clearly when it comes to top teams in the Premier League. This is so wrong.

Now after this decision Everton are in the relegation zone.  Sad  The season was already not going on easy for them and now it has become much more difficult because of this reason.

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November 18, 2023, 02:08:53 PM
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It must be really frustrating for Everton officials to see that only they are getting this punishment. Because in the past Manchester City faced this punishment "threat" many times but didn't get any officially. Double standard is being applied clearly when it comes to top teams in the Premier League. This is so wrong.

Now after this decision Everton are in the relegation zone.  Sad  The season was already not going on easy for them and now it has become much more difficult because of this reason.
The FA really must be able to prove its credibility regarding the sanctions given to Everton. How could it not be that the occurrence of this case made everyone also drag Manchester City into a similar case. If indeed the FA is able to prove it with clear enough evidence then the prestige of the EPL will be even better. If indeed the FA is accused of siding with Manchester City who are also suspected of having committed violations and they don't budge then the credibility of the EPL will suffer serious consequences and of course it will be very detrimental. FA itself.

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November 18, 2023, 02:14:29 PM
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Currently, Everton is the only English Premier League club that's being handed a 10-point deduction though other clubs like Chelsea and Manchester City are also under investigation but no decision has been made concerning the other two clubs but it's believed that if they're found guilty of breaching financial rules, they're also gonna face similar punishment.
The point deduction is a very big blow to Everton and has thrown to into fighting for survival in the league again this season. But in the club's statement, they said they're gonna appeal the decision but I don't know if they're gonna successfully overturn the decision when they appeal
Chelsea and Manchester City are both great EPL teams and sanctioning them relegation, that's part of the deal that I do not agree with. EPL will lose revenues and supporters from Manchester City and Chelsea because these are the top teams in England. I wouldn't support that idea, rather they should settle for points deduction, the exact same thing that happen to Juventus in Seria A and currently happening to Everton. Every Toffees player and supporters are hoping for good results this season,  Everton have appeal and they awaits the reply from FFP body.
Everton got an unexpected surprise, as a club that always finished in last place was required to be more careful.
Clubs like Arsenal, Liverpool, Newcastle and Man United are preparing to improve their performance. If it is proven that Chelsea and Man City are guilty then they deserve appropriate punishment. Deduction of points is very detrimental to the team and also to the mentality of the players.

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November 18, 2023, 02:14:46 PM
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I do believe that it was a bit harsh to give Everton that much penalty, a 10 point reduction for a team that size usually means relegation, and that means you basically render their season gone all season long. What are they end up playing for this whole season long now?

I mean sure they could play to stay in the league and that's what they will officially be doing and not like that would be impossible, there is definitely a chance for them to stay, but if they do end up losing out and relegate, all due to this 10 points which they could have stayed in the league if it weren't for that, then the whole season was for nothing. I am not saying do not punish teams that breaks the rules, but at least make it sensible, like do not allow them to transfer next season, or just give them a financial penalty, that would make a lot more sense. I understand that it may look like there is a good chance that they would go down anyway, this just hurts way too much to see.

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