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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.4%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.6%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 189

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April 11, 2023, 05:09:59 PM
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Arsenal winning west ham united is a guarantee, Arsenal don't find it hard beating smaller teams that they should be winning this season and that's what have given them so much point. The situation that  gives Arsenal some issue is when they're playing bigger sides like Manchester city or united and as we just saw them in last game drawing against Liverpool.
There are no guarantees in the EPL, of course Arsenal are the favorites for victory in that game, but they are not guaranteed to be victorious. Arsenal drew to Liverpool and the players were visibly disappointed, it looks like a game that could have dampened their confidence a little bit, but we'll see if that is the case when they play West Ham this weekend. Having said that, the title race is definitely going down to the wire, both City and Arsenal now have their destiny in their own hands, win all your games and you are champions, we'd have to find out who can do it, or who'll get the most points from now until the end of the season.
I think a draw against Liverpool is normal and even statistically the last head to head Arsenal were able to win at Anfield was back in 2012 and that was about 11 years ago that record hasn't been broken yet. So I wouldn't be surprised if at yesterday's meeting the two returned to a draw. But the next game against West ham can indeed be said to be a strong guarantee of victory. If Arsenal can't win, then Manchester City will be very happy and can shorten the gap in the standings again.

The probability of matches ending as a draw repeatedly is very hard and abnormal, therefore, something must have happened in the intervening years to result in the match ending as a draw.

The players who participated in the most recent match were not the same as those who played in 2012. There must have been some underlying cause for the recent draw matches, such as Arsenal's defense being weak and Liverpool being able to move around freely. Arsenal had initially been leading, but their defense was not strong enough to keep Liverpool at bay. Even though Liverpool was poised to win, Sallah squandered an opportunity to score a penalty kick, which was granted to them as a result of Arsenal's mistake; this was not what happened in 2012 I believe, so nothing normal to compare the years.

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April 11, 2023, 05:31:00 PM
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Arsenal have key players in the team, Saliba injured would affect the defendline, however they got Gabriel and Zinchenko who are experience and knows how to tackle the ball from their opponents. Gunners fixtures is tough and they will struggle to grab three points in these upcoming games. Knot a draw tie against Liverpool, that game was supposed to be a confident victory for gunners but they allowed Liverpool to put more on them in the second halve. More talks about City, Chelsea, Newcastle and Brighton. Definitely a game we wouldn't missed, afterall there's enough top actions in each of the game.
It is true that they built a team that could stand strong even when they lose a few players, they didn't had Gabriel Jesus for so long and they still did alright during the same period. Because they built a team that can be strong if they are missing only one player, maybe even two if they are lucky.

Plus, they got players that were at the top before they came to arsenal, which means they know how to play when they are at the top and that gave them the advantage of not being worried when they are being followed, which is a new thing because they were the team that did the following instead of being followed. I think they may have dropped points here but they are going to be able to recover and win again.

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April 11, 2023, 06:13:38 PM
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The tittle is still between Arsenal and Manchester city, how sure are you that if Arsenal losses points in any of those matches you listed, Manchester City won't also lose points in any of their matches, or is it because Manchester city is not really having any strong team to face accept Arsenal, you think they can't lose or draw to any small club? I know Manchester city will definitely put all their efforts and am sure the only match that they will find difficult should be against Arsenal, other matches should be really difficult for them, but matches are really difficult to predict currently.
There are no easy games in title run-ins, and City have tough games against the likes of Chelsea, Brighton and even an Everton side that are fighting for their lives at the bottom end of the table, these games aren't easy ones. I think both Arsenal and City have almost similar fixtures from now until the end of the season, similar in terms of opposition team strength, thus whoever wins the title deserved it, and not because they had easier games right at the end than their fellow title contenders.

Having said that, the only difference between the two teams is that City are still alive in three competitions, whilst Arsenal have only the EPL to play, they have a full week to prepare for games from now until the end of the season, it could increase City's fatigue level, but City are built for title races like this, they have a good squad depth, and the quality at their disposal is enough for them to challenge on all three fronts.
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April 11, 2023, 06:39:13 PM
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Arsenal winning west ham united is a guarantee,
You're saying there's no chance of losing? Arsenal has been pretty good I admit and they may actually get three precious points but to claim that their win is guaranteed is not something I would do unless I'm an all knowing person hehe. Would be nice to know how much are you willing to bet on the Gunners to confidently say that. I wouldn't bet my house for sure as I know there is always the possibility of an upset.

It is also difficult for Liverpool to finish in the top four this season Liverpool is 12 points behind fourth-placed Tottenham in the premier league.
Man United is currently in fourth place.
Tottenham is fifth and 9 points ahead of Liverpool.
There are small or no chances Arsenal will lose against Westham. We know that in football anything is possible but Arsenal will not take that kind of risk by not winning Westham United.
Saying about betting your house is funny and be regarded as a joke. We are only to gamble with what will not affect us when we lose it and your house is not among these set of things and likewise is any of your properties.
Westham used to be a tough team just last season. But this season, winning the league is important that escaping relegation. So, it's for Arsenal.

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April 11, 2023, 06:47:37 PM
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Top 4 that will no longer work, but Newcastle United is a team that does not have a lot of experience yet. It is possible that they will drop some points, but 12 points is just too much. 6 points might have been manageable. Finishing 4th doesn't suit Liverpool's form at all either, as Liverpool are having a dramatic season so what better reflection than not finishing in the top 4? Liverpool is unthinkable from the CL, but this season it was quite hopeless against Real Madrid in the eighth final. It looks like we won't see any surprises in the European games from qualifying, or maybe a team could still qualify through the FA cup.

If you think that Newcastle can get out of the top four because they don't have experience, but why is it that until now Newcastle is still in the top four. In fact, in the previous few matches, Newcastle had experienced a decline so that they were in fifth place, but in the end, Newcastle returned to good results.

So, I think at this moment it's not about experience or not for Newcastle to be able to stay in the top four until the end of the season, because of course we all have realized that Newcastle already has better facilities. Therefore, of course, it is a strong impetus for Newcastle to become a big team that can compete in the top four until the end of the season.
It is true that Newcastle this season is having a very good season, even though they have stumbled in a number of matches, but they have proven their capacity and mentality to compete in the top 4 again. On the other hand, because Newcastle has been acquired by an owner from the Middle East, Newcastle can be more flexible in buying the players needed for the team. We know that the money that has been poured out this season is quite a lot to bring in quality players and that can be managed well by their coach Eddie Howie.

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April 11, 2023, 06:50:18 PM
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There are no easy games in title run-ins, and City have tough games against the likes of Chelsea, Brighton and even an Everton side that are fighting for their lives at the bottom end of the table, these games aren't easy ones. I think both Arsenal and City have almost similar fixtures from now until the end of the season, similar in terms of opposition team strength, thus whoever wins the title deserved it, and not because they had easier games right at the end than their fellow title contenders.

Having said that, the only difference between the two teams is that City are still alive in three competitions, whilst Arsenal have only the EPL to play, they have a full week to prepare for games from now until the end of the season, it could increase City's fatigue level, but City are built for title races like this, they have a good squad depth, and the quality at their disposal is enough for them to challenge on all three fronts.
You're right, whoever wins the title in the end then that's the best team and deserves it. But speaking of opportunities, Arsenal, who are currently 6 points ahead of Manchester City, can still excel despite the fact that they are starting to feel heavy pressure to maintain their advantage. Manchester City is very likely to reduce the gap with Arsenal to 3 points if they win against Leicester, so that is a threat.

After all, Manchester City probably won't lose focus on the Premier League as long as they still have a chance to win the title. They will still be trying to win all available titles, so this season can really be expected to be great to look forward to.

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April 11, 2023, 06:53:15 PM
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If you doubt the accuracy of the bookmakers' estimates, then you can bet against them - after all, if we assume that Arsenal and City have equal chances, then the imbalance in the odds is quite large  Wink But here we are talking about a significant distance, so (unfortunately) the bookmakers are most likely right, unlike, for example, their assessments of the Bayern-City pair in the Champions League. There the City is clearly overrated.

In the case of Arsenal not winning the league this season I can't doubt because it's becoming tougher than I expected and the probability of them winning the league is becoming slim due to their current positions and point difference, Arsenal may be doing a good job since the beginning of the season but the chances of Manchester city overcoming them is possible due to the games they are going to face and the outstanding match of Manchester city. The bookmarkers did a good check here but notwithstanding they may not be very accurate with the prediction even though the chances are clear. On the Manchester city and Bayern Munich pair as you called it, I don't think they overrated Manchester city by making Bayern Munich the underdog in the game through their prediction I think Manchester city is in a better shape to win the game and playing at home is an added advantage for them don't be so surprised if they end up trashing Bayern Munich today.

Still, I think Arsenal are underestimated - after all, they have an actual advantage and what City "can" is a probabilistic estimate.
As for the City - Bayern pair, any result is possible here, but the way the bookmakers assessed Bayern seems to me to be wrong. I would set more even odds like 1.9 - 3 - 3. It is a pity that today we will see only one game (and not for example 100) and we will never know what the real chances of the teams were.

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April 11, 2023, 07:02:03 PM
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If you doubt the accuracy of the bookmakers' estimates, then you can bet against them - after all, if we assume that Arsenal and City have equal chances, then the imbalance in the odds is quite large  Wink But here we are talking about a significant distance, so (unfortunately) the bookmakers are most likely right, unlike, for example, their assessments of the Bayern-City pair in the Champions League. There the City is clearly overrated.

In the case of Arsenal not winning the league this season I can't doubt because it's becoming tougher than I expected and the probability of them winning the league is becoming slim due to their current positions and point difference, Arsenal may be doing a good job since the beginning of the season but the chances of Manchester city overcoming them is possible due to the games they are going to face and the outstanding match of Manchester city. The bookmarkers did a good check here but notwithstanding they may not be very accurate with the prediction even though the chances are clear. On the Manchester city and Bayern Munich pair as you called it, I don't think they overrated Manchester city by making Bayern Munich the underdog in the game through their prediction I think Manchester city is in a better shape to win the game and playing at home is an added advantage for them don't be so surprised if they end up trashing Bayern Munich today.

Still, I think Arsenal are underestimated - after all, they have an actual advantage and what City "can" is a probabilistic estimate.
As for the City - Bayern pair, any result is possible here, but the way the bookmakers assessed Bayern seems to me to be wrong. I would set more even odds like 1.9 - 3 - 3. It is a pity that today we will see only one game (and not for example 100) and we will never know what the real chances of the teams were.

It remains strange how Arsenal has suddenly become so dominant in the competition. Last season they had some good victories, I think they beat Manchester City for example, but they were not consistent at all last season. And not to mention the seasons before that, there were even dramatic seasons in between as far as I can remember. Persistence always wins, they always say, that is certainly the case in the case of Arsenal because they really gave Arteta a few years the chance to make a team out of it. They are almost at the finish line, but there are still a few games to play. They can stumble over an opponent here and there and I don't see Manchester City losing many points in the current form.

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April 11, 2023, 07:03:01 PM
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It is true that Newcastle this season is having a very good season, even though they have stumbled in a number of matches, but they have proven their capacity and mentality to compete in the top 4 again. On the other hand, because Newcastle has been acquired by an owner from the Middle East, Newcastle can be more flexible in buying the players needed for the team. We know that the money that has been poured out this season is quite a lot to bring in quality players and that can be managed well by their coach Eddie Howie.
Newcastle got his confidence back after being able to bounce back to beat Manchester United. And in the end it was proven that they kept trying to compete very competitively in order to get tickets to the Champions League. So that in the summer Newcastle will target the purchase of fantastic players in order to fulfill their ambitions.

You're right, whoever wins the title in the end then that's the best team and deserves it. But speaking of opportunities, Arsenal, who are currently 6 points ahead of Manchester City, can still excel despite the fact that they are starting to feel heavy pressure to maintain their advantage. Manchester City is very likely to reduce the gap with Arsenal to 3 points if they win against Leicester, so that is a threat.

After all, Manchester City probably won't lose focus on the Premier League as long as they still have a chance to win the title. They will still be trying to win all available titles, so this season can really be expected to be great to look forward to.
Arsenal only has 1 match in sight to maintain its position at the top of the standings. Because if you lose or get a draw then the potential for Manchester City is greater to catch up. For that, I want interesting things where West Ham managed to make Arsenal's path even more difficult. Even though West Ham's potential to hold a draw is quite small, at least they can put that small hope to good use.

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If you doubt the accuracy of the bookmakers' estimates, then you can bet against them - after all, if we assume that Arsenal and City have equal chances, then the imbalance in the odds is quite large  Wink But here we are talking about a significant distance, so (unfortunately) the bookmakers are most likely right, unlike, for example, their assessments of the Bayern-City pair in the Champions League. There the City is clearly overrated.
In the case of Arsenal not winning the league this season I can't doubt because it's becoming tougher than I expected and the probability of them winning the league is becoming slim due to their current positions and point difference, Arsenal may be doing a good job since the beginning of the season but the chances of Manchester city overcoming them is possible due to the games they are going to face and the outstanding match of Manchester city. The bookmarkers did a good check here but notwithstanding they may not be very accurate with the prediction even though the chances are clear. On the Manchester city and Bayern Munich pair as you called it, I don't think they overrated Manchester city by making Bayern Munich the underdog in the game through their prediction I think Manchester city is in a better shape to win the game and playing at home is an added advantage for them don't be so surprised if they end up trashing Bayern Munich today.
Still, I think Arsenal are underestimated - after all, they have an actual advantage and what City "can" is a probabilistic estimate.
As for the City - Bayern pair, any result is possible here, but the way the bookmakers assessed Bayern seems to me to be wrong. I would set more even odds like 1.9 - 3 - 3. It is a pity that today we will see only one game (and not for example 100) and we will never know what the real chances of the teams were.

It is not guaranteed that Arsenal will win the Premier League title. Because they are not much ahead of Manchester City. If City wins the next match, they will be only 3 points behind Arsenal. I don't think it will be too difficult to narrow this gap.
Bookmakers think the match against Munich will be one-sided. Everyone thinks Manchester City is the favourite. But I see no chance of underestimating the Munich team. Although Manchester City is the favorite in this match, they have the possibility of losing this match if they make any tactical mistakes. But I expect a competitive match. Hope to see many goals today.

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The picture above is a list of dismissals of EPL coaches until this week. There is a unique phenomenon that I noticed in the EPL this time. That is, the issue of dismissing the coach is approaching the end of the season. Many EPL clubs have sacked coaches, especially those in the Relegation Zone. I read there are 12 managers who have been sacked in the Premier League this season. I don't think that's the best guarantee to improve their appearance.  But looking at the analysis, it turns out that 58% of the coach's performance is still ineffective. This year's dismissal of coaches also surpassed the record for the most seasons a coach has been fired.

Source: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/12854888/does-sacking-a-manager-while-in-relegation-zone-improve-premier-league-survival-hopes
I think looking at the bright side it tells how intense the competition is in the league now, every club wants to be at its best week in and week out especially being on the top half of the table. I think any manager coming to the premier league will understand the job and will want to meet up with expectations of the club. This toughens the competition in the league even more.
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April 11, 2023, 07:10:33 PM
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Liverpool and Chelsea are two big teams who are not going to play in the Champions League next season and I'm very sure about that, even though at this moment Chelsea are still playing in the quarter-finals of the Champions League but I'm sure Chelsea won't be able to get to the final. But yes, if next season they only focus on the Premier League, then it is hoped that they can compete again in the top four for next season.

Maybe there are some who still hope for a miracle for Liverpool to be able to finish in the top four, but with Liverpool's current condition it is certainly difficult for Liverpool to finish even though it is only in fifth position. Because the teams are currently in the top five, of course they will continue to strive to be able to maintain their position until the end of the season.

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April 11, 2023, 07:31:57 PM
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The Arsenal were expected easily defeat Liverpool but instead they allowed Liverpool to put more pressure on them in  second half resulting in a stalemate. Discussion about City Chelsea Newcastle and Brighton continue. Unquestionably a match we would not miss since each game has plenty of top notch action.
I knew Liverpool won't  be easy for Arsenal,  Liverpool performance this season have not really been in good form but whenever Liverpool meets big teams in Premier league they always give their best performance. Liverpool only easily lose to small teams , I was not surprised by the outcome of the game.  Arsenal was just lucky the  game ended  with draw, if Liverpool had won the match against arsenal it would have killed their winning mentality towards other games.

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April 11, 2023, 07:33:38 PM
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It is true that Newcastle this season is having a very good season, even though they have stumbled in a number of matches, but they have proven their capacity and mentality to compete in the top 4 again. On the other hand, because Newcastle has been acquired by an owner from the Middle East, Newcastle can be more flexible in buying the players needed for the team. We know that the money that has been poured out this season is quite a lot to bring in quality players and that can be managed well by their coach Eddie Howie.
Apart from ownership and other things, in general I also think in this way that Newcastle has a very good chance of finishing this season in the top four Premier League zone because until now Newcastle is still competing well in the top three even though the number of points looks the same as Manchester United. But I really believe that Newcastle can still be consistent for the rest of this season to continue to be in the top four zone until the end of the season.

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April 11, 2023, 07:39:01 PM
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Liverpool and Chelsea are two big teams who are not going to play in the Champions League next season and I'm very sure about that, even though at this moment Chelsea are still playing in the quarter-finals of the Champions League but I'm sure Chelsea won't be able to get to the final. But yes, if next season they only focus on the Premier League, then it is hoped that they can compete again in the top four for next season.

Maybe there are some who still hope for a miracle for Liverpool to be able to finish in the top four, but with Liverpool's current condition it is certainly difficult for Liverpool to finish even though it is only in fifth position. Because the teams are currently in the top five, of course they will continue to strive to be able to maintain their position until the end of the season.
Actually for Liverpool it was quite a shame because previously with several matches that went well for them they were even able to compete with several clubs such as Newcastle and Manchester United at that time but in the last 4 matches they did not show anything positive for them anymore and moved away from position. That.
The difference is 12 points now with Manchester United who are in 4th place, of course this is indeed their chance to close with the form they have at the moment and with fewer and fewer matches remaining.

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April 11, 2023, 07:39:27 PM
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Chelsea really have only the Champions League left in their hands. It is even doubtful if they can move on there because it seems quite difficult for them to get past Real Madrid with this effort level.

Maybe Chelsea look a little better in the Champions League but we still see the same kind of problems continuing on one hand. Real Madrid can easily keep both legs under control against a team like this. Just remember what they did to Liverpool already. Chelsea have already given up on this season in the Premier League at least. As they also know they can't finish at a proper place they just didn't want to be in a hurry to choose their permanent manager. But maybe they would have fought harder in the Champions League at least if they made this decision earlier.

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April 11, 2023, 08:01:51 PM
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You're right, whoever wins the title in the end then that's the best team and deserves it. But speaking of opportunities, Arsenal, who are currently 6 points ahead of Manchester City, can still excel despite the fact that they are starting to feel heavy pressure to maintain their advantage. Manchester City is very likely to reduce the gap with Arsenal to 3 points if they win against Leicester, so that is a threat.

After all, Manchester City probably won't lose focus on the Premier League as long as they still have a chance to win the title. They will still be trying to win all available titles, so this season can really be expected to be great to look forward to.
Arsenal only has 1 match in sight to maintain its position at the top of the standings. Because if you lose or get a draw then the potential for Manchester City is greater to catch up. For that, I want interesting things where West Ham managed to make Arsenal's path even more difficult. Even though West Ham's potential to hold a draw is quite small, at least they can put that small hope to good use.

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April 11, 2023, 08:10:58 PM
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You're right, whoever wins the title in the end then that's the best team and deserves it. But speaking of opportunities, Arsenal, who are currently 6 points ahead of Manchester City, can still excel despite the fact that they are starting to feel heavy pressure to maintain their advantage. Manchester City is very likely to reduce the gap with Arsenal to 3 points if they win against Leicester, so that is a threat.

After all, Manchester City probably won't lose focus on the Premier League as long as they still have a chance to win the title. They will still be trying to win all available titles, so this season can really be expected to be great to look forward to.
Arsenal only has 1 match in sight to maintain its position at the top of the standings. Because if you lose or get a draw then the potential for Manchester City is greater to catch up. For that, I want interesting things where West Ham managed to make Arsenal's path even more difficult. Even though West Ham's potential to hold a draw is quite small, at least they can put that small hope to good use.

Arsenal will need to win all their upcoming matches if they want to win the Premier League title. And they have no choice now. Even if they lose a match, the chances of losing the top spot in the points table will increase. The Manchester City team is in a very good rhythm right now. They are trying to grab the top spot in the points table. And so the title fight has become very difficult for Arsenal now. I am looking forward to watching the Manchester City vs Arsenal match in the last week of April. I think the team that wins this match, they will win the title too.

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April 11, 2023, 08:16:15 PM
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It is not guaranteed that Arsenal will win the Premier League title. Because they are not much ahead of Manchester City. If City wins the next match, they will be only 3 points behind Arsenal. I don't think it will be too difficult to narrow this gap.
Bookmakers think the match against Munich will be one-sided. Everyone thinks Manchester City is the favourite. But I see no chance of underestimating the Munich team. Although Manchester City is the favorite in this match, they have the possibility of losing this match if they make any tactical mistakes. But I expect a competitive match. Hope to see many goals today.
True, Arsenal are still very much in doubt to lift the Premier League title this season regardless of how optimistic people are about the chances. Manchester City have been the most threatening team to Arsenal's chances especially after Arsenal drew against Liverpool. Arsenal can expect a lot this season especially as they only have the Premier League on their schedule, but of course it doesn't make sense to put them as absolute favorites as long as Manchester City have a chance.

Manchester City could match Arsenal's points in the next few matches, it is very possible as long as their performance is good. There is an important match against Leicester this weekend, and if they manage to collect 3 points then it is clear that Manchester City is getting closer to Arsenal.

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April 11, 2023, 08:49:51 PM
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Arsenal only has 1 match in sight to maintain its position at the top of the standings. Because if you lose or get a draw then the potential for Manchester City is greater to catch up. For that, I want interesting things where West Ham managed to make Arsenal's path even more difficult. Even though West Ham's potential to hold a draw is quite small, at least they can put that small hope to good use.
When you watch how Manchester City are performing in Champions League vs top teams and the 3 - 0 against big Bayern, you wonder how they could lose EPL and games vs easy teams!
Barely all players are playing in their best best performance. If they continue like that in EPL then Arsenal will have no chance for EPL tho.

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