Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024

[Oluwa-btc]

Within the last ten minutes they've played against Arsenal during tonight's friendly, believe me, the attack doesn't pose any threat on the Arsenal defense. It also seems like the midfielder's are coordinated, they've used more of the wing's than that of the midfielder's.

Manchester United have been the better team and shown better signs of improvement than Arsenal. They have defended well and also been able to attack very well. Their defensive line with Shaw, Martinez, Verane, Bissaka is very composed, and even the second choice goalkeeper has also been very good and made some very important saves in the game. New players will play in the second half and we will see how the other Manchester United players will perform this season. There will be lots of competition for first team spot next season in Manchester United.

I'd agree to an extent, Gabriel Martinelli had a good chance to give Arsenal the lead but I was quite surprised he snoozed on that chance he got. Two good saves from Tom Heaton in the first half to deny the brazilian that chance.
Yeah, but we saw Saka making good use of the right wing very well, they had multiple passes flowing to that ends but they couldn't convert those chances still.

Yeah, Props to those defender's, and Harry Maguire. Harry Maguire wasn't under pressure yesterday, he handled a tight situation I felt he was suppose to lose.The introduced youngins are also doing great not as much expected but we've seen drastic improvements from em.

I dozed off watching the game, so much can't say much about the second half of the season. Kai Harvertz seems lost, but I do hope he fits in well into Arsenals kind of game plans.

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[Despairo]

Manchester United play so serious like it's a final match in Champions league

It's impossible to see Arsenal playing so damn bad when they're win in ball possession and total shots, Rice and Havertz looks don't have a good chemistry yet.

However it's nice to see Chelsea able to beat Brighton, Nkunku, Mudryk and Jackson give a good contribution in this match. Nkunku also looks solid even though he play in center forward position when he was mostly play in attacking midfielder.

[abhiseshakana]

Manchester United have not made any quality signings at the moment,but they are looking at some some possible options to improve their front line,because they don't really have an aggressive nine(9) that can score upto 29 goals in a season,and I believe they are looking towards improving that position in the team.Ten Hag have succeeded in making Rashfored sign a new contract at Manchester United,all he needs now is some quality signings that will improve the team.He has been looking at the possibility of signing Harry Kane,but it seems Kane is one the verge of joining  Bayern for a record fee that is believed to be in the region of 100 million Euros despite his age.United will really need to strengthen their squad in other to compete for a team like Arsenal and Necastle next season because if they don't,they will find themselves below top four.

Let's hope to see if Hen Tag is to make some new signings or he is contented with the way his current squad is,but I think he needs to stret his midfield again,and add like two more signings to his front line.

With so many quality players at Manchester United, in the coming season they should be ready to try to win in the Premier League next season, 100 million Euros is a lot of money, therefore Manchester United must have a good strategy to keep winning in the coming season.

Yes, after seeing several pre-season matches held by Man United. I feel that the squad built by Erik Ten Heg is strong enough, but I agree that Man United still needs additional players for the attack line. Because I still see that Man United's weakness since last season is in the accuracy of their attacks. There are always too many opportunities that they fail to take advantage of. For the back line and midfield I think it is quite balanced but for the attack line I think Rashford needs a friend there who can together become the spearhead in every attack that is built.

But Man United is still lucky because they have quite an aggressive attacking midfielder like Bruno Fernandes. This young Portuguese player I think always works hard to balance between midfield and attack. But because he was always working too hard, his stamina always decreased in the second half. And that's when Man United's weaknesses began to appear in the attack line.

Man United has a transfer budget of £ 170 million this season. Even though they have spent £60m on Jason Mount and £47m for Onana, I think Man United can still get a good striker with the rest of their budget. Moreover, if Man United successful in selling their players (such as Maguire, Sancho, Fred, McTominay and Elanga) then Man United will get boosted fresh funds which can be used to strengthen their squad this season.

It is possible that Man United can tempt PSG regarding the signing of Mbappe because PSG won't get anything if they aren't willing to let him go in the current transfer window, and most likely PSG can't peg Mbappe with a fantastic value because Mbappe will be a free agent next summer (Mbappe refused to sign the contract extension offered by PSG).

There are indeed rumors that Mbappe has already agreed to join Real Madrid as a free agent next summer, but I think PSG will do whatever it takes so they can sell Mbappe this season and get some money out of it.

[Jatiluhung]

Manchester United play so serious like it's a final match in Champions league

It's impossible to see Arsenal playing so damn bad when they're win in ball possession and total shots, Rice and Havertz looks don't have a good chemistry yet.

Manchester United seems to be ready to compete in the season that will start soon. Even Manchester United have been released from the goalkeeping crisis after De Gea left. Because now Manchester United already has a new goalkeeper that they brought in from Inter Milan, namely Andre Onana. Maybe in the next pre-season match Onana will be played.

In the pre-season match against Arsenal, we can also see Manchester United players playing quite comfortably. But in general, Manchester United's performance is not much different from the previous season. But for sure ETH will not show the real strategy owned by the Manchester United club in the pre-season match. So I'm still waiting for the real surprises from Manchester United and the other clubs in the season that is about to start.

[Juggy777]

Manchester United have not made any quality signings at the moment,but they are looking at some some possible options to improve their front line,because they don't really have an aggressive nine(9) that can score upto 29 goals in a season,and I believe they are looking towards improving that position in the team.Ten Hag have succeeded in making Rashfored sign a new contract at Manchester United,all he needs now is some quality signings that will improve the team.He has been looking at the possibility of signing Harry Kane,but it seems Kane is one the verge of joining  Bayern for a record fee that is believed to be in the region of 100 million Euros despite his age.United will really need to strengthen their squad in other to compete for a team like Arsenal and Necastle next season because if they don't,they will find themselves below top four.

Let's hope to see if Hen Tag is to make some new signings or he is contented with the way his current squad is,but I think he needs to stret his midfield again,and add like two more signings to his front line.

With so many quality players at Manchester United, in the coming season they should be ready to try to win in the Premier League next season, 100 million Euros is a lot of money, therefore Manchester United must have a good strategy to keep winning in the coming season.

Yes, after seeing several pre-season matches held by Man United. I feel that the squad built by Erik Ten Heg is strong enough, but I agree that Man United still needs additional players for the attack line. Because I still see that Man United's weakness since last season is in the accuracy of their attacks. There are always too many opportunities that they fail to take advantage of. For the back line and midfield I think it is quite balanced but for the attack line I think Rashford needs a friend there who can together become the spearhead in every attack that is built.

But Man United is still lucky because they have quite an aggressive attacking midfielder like Bruno Fernandes. This young Portuguese player I think always works hard to balance between midfield and attack. But because he was always working too hard, his stamina always decreased in the second half. And that's when Man United's weaknesses began to appear in the attack line.

Man United has a transfer budget of £ 170 million this season. Even though they have spent £60m on Jason Mount and £47m for Onana, I think Man United can still get a good striker with the rest of their budget. Moreover, if Man United successful in selling their players (such as Maguire, Sancho, Fred, McTominay and Elanga) then Man United will get boosted fresh funds which can be used to strengthen their squad this season.

It is possible that Man United can tempt PSG regarding the signing of Mbappe because PSG won't get anything if they aren't willing to let him go in the current transfer window, and most likely PSG can't peg Mbappe with a fantastic value because Mbappe will be a free agent next summer (Mbappe refused to sign the contract extension offered by PSG).

There are indeed rumors that Mbappe has already agreed to join Real Madrid as a free agent next summer, but I think PSG will do whatever it takes so they can sell Mbappe this season and get some money out of it.

@abhiseshakana I don’t think that Manchester United will target him because he’s selfish and will upset the balance at the club hence I hope that they don’t sign him. Also while we lack a striker look at what we did to Arsenal yesterday despite their main star’s playing Manchester United yet managed to defeat them and I feel that Sancho will be converted into a striker if the club fail to buy a striker during this transfer window.

[flyingcarpet]

Manchester City for a fact has lost few of their players that helped the club win treble last season but that doesn't stop them from being the strongest English Premier League club at the moment.
After the departure of IIkay Gundogan, he was replaced with former Chelsea midfielder Mateo Kovacic and which I think is a perfect replacement and now that Riyad Mahrez is gone City still possess squad that's capable of winning as much as they won last season

Yes, for now we have seen a growing issue where Mahrez is likely to leave Manchester City and join Al-Ahli. Even in the progress of the transfer saga, it has been ensured that Al Ahli will get Mahrez in this transfer window. Even the position left by Mahrez doesn't really worry us because Grealish could play in that position if Guardiola wants him in that position. So I say that Manchester City still has a stock of quality players that keeps them from losing balance if their players leave in this transfer window.

However, Pep Guardiola is also worried that he will soon recruit the right replacement for the place left by Mahrez. Raphinha is the target of Pep Guardiola in this transfer window. I am sure he will be interested in joining Manchester City if Manchester City makes an offer for him.

Ilkay Gundogan made a big contribution to the team. I doubt his replacement will be able to have the same effect, so I can't be sure whether City are losing strength before the games start.

Guardiola can build a squad with many alternatives. So he can easily overcome this situation. What I'm worried about is how much the departure of some players will or won't hurt the strength of the team when City have had such a good season.

[mamesso]

~Snip~

With so many quality players at Manchester United, in the coming season they should be ready to try to win in the Premier League next season, 100 million Euros is a lot of money, therefore Manchester United must have a good strategy to keep winning in the coming season.

Manchester United has been formed into a solid squad since being under Ten Hag care, he has succeeded in bringing Manchester United up from adversity to become a team ready to compete at the top of the rankings. Ten Hag wish was welcomed by club management, the arrival of several quality players in the transfer market this time will give a new nuance to Manchester United appearance. The arrival of Onana also ends Manchester United search for a goalkeeper position, he is one of the players Ten Hag most wanted to be in his squad.

Manchester United needs to find a quality striker for the balance of the team, the new force formed by Ten Hag has posed a threat to Manchester City, which has dominated the Premier League so far. This season the Premier League will be more competitive than the previous season, Liverpool and Chelsea have also made big changes to break the dominance of Manchester City which has been difficult for other teams to break.

[Bananington]

Pochettino seems to be able to bring big changes to the Chelsea squad. Even though his decision to sell many great players from the club invited various comments from football fans and from football observers. But now he can prove that he can make a strong Chelsea squad with the players he keeps at the club.

Chelsea will be a very strong team next season. There is something in the way the Chelsea team are playing , you can see that they want to show that they are back. There are some particular good youngsters in Chelsea club like Jackson and Cesare Casadei. Jackson and Mudryk link up well and that led to Mudryk's first goal for Chelsea.

Manchester United seems to be ready to compete in the season that will start soon.

They played very well and were a threat anytime they went forward. Sancho can play as their striker if they do not get a striker, but if they can get a striker, it will be good to complement this very balanced Manchester United team.

[Velvet78]

~snip~

He is a very successful quality manager. He just needs a lot of money to build the kind of a team he would like.    He can find that kind of a budget at only rich teams as a result. He has finally achieved the Champions League title with Manchester City as well and achieved his main target too.

But remember, he also needs time to make a championship team. So not only the money factor, but there are improvements that take a long time. Indeed, for the EPL he has dominated since he came to England. But for Europe it took him more than 7 years. 7 years to win UCL. With the conditions, experience and champions gained, he will become the coach of a top club and automatically have a lot of money to spend. Besides, he won't be able to go to a small club

Of course winning a domestic league title is one thing and winning the Champions League title is another. The Champions League is the biggest challenge for even the best teams in Europe. Guardiola made a big effort to achieve that title with his usual game plan and strategies for years.

Maybe if he made slight changes according to their opponents over the years they might have won this title earlier who knows. But finally his system worked out and they won the title. It wasn't easy though as Inter resisted them really well. Guardiola will be remembered as the most successful manager in team history when he leaves.

[Luzin]

Friendly match
Arsenal vs Man United 0-2 and penalty 3-5 Man United won again.

The match was played in America, at the MetLife stadium. Bruno and Sancho scored 1 goal each. Uniquely, even though Man United won, there was extra time for penalties. It turns out that this is an agreement between Ten Hag and Arteta as a mental exercise in the conditions of many spectators. Although this is pre-season at least this can be a warning for Arsenal, their opponents have improved a lot. They have to prepare better, so as not to make the same mistakes for next season.

Source: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/soccer/news/arsenal-vs-man-united-live-score-result-preseason-friendly-usa/ewizvmy3o5zd4lby2pgaul7v

[Jody.Drummer]

Manchester City for a fact has lost few of their players that helped the club win treble last season but that doesn't stop them from being the strongest English Premier League club at the moment.
After the departure of IIkay Gundogan, he was replaced with former Chelsea midfielder Mateo Kovacic and which I think is a perfect replacement and now that Riyad Mahrez is gone City still possess squad that's capable of winning as much as they won last season

Yes, for now we have seen a growing issue where Mahrez is likely to leave Manchester City and join Al-Ahli. Even in the progress of the transfer saga, it has been ensured that Al Ahli will get Mahrez in this transfer window. Even the position left by Mahrez doesn't really worry us because Grealish could play in that position if Guardiola wants him in that position. So I say that Manchester City still has a stock of quality players that keeps them from losing balance if their players leave in this transfer window.

However, Pep Guardiola is also worried that he will soon recruit the right replacement for the place left by Mahrez. Raphinha is the target of Pep Guardiola in this transfer window. I am sure he will be interested in joining Manchester City if Manchester City makes an offer for him.

Ilkay Gundogan made a big contribution to the team. I doubt his replacement will be able to have the same effect, so I can't be sure whether City are losing strength before the games start.

Guardiola can build a squad with many alternatives. So he can easily overcome this situation. What I'm worried about is how much the departure of some players will or won't hurt the strength of the team when City have had such a good season.

When he let go of Gundogan and Pep brought in Kovacic then he realised that it could be fulfilled. The doubts will definitely be there but Pep will always give his best and there is no way he would have brought Kovavic without some consideration.
Right now they just have to focus on what they're going to do, Pep knows that there might be some adjustments with the new players in the empty squad but on the other hand he's always cool-headed and anticipates everything. I believe in Pep's choice although there are definitely some differences between Gundogan and Kovavic but of course we also have to see that Kovavic is not as bad as he looks and even in terms of experience and big competition he has got that not only at Chelsea but at Madrid and Inter Milan. So with the experience he has, of course I think Pep's choice will not be wrong.

[BlackBoss_]

When he let go of Gundogan and Pep brought in Kovacic then he realised that it could be fulfilled. The doubts will definitely be there but Pep will always give his best and there is no way he would have brought Kovavic without some consideration.

Kovacic played very well for Croatia in Euro 2020 and World Cup 2022 so he is a useful player and has good experience. He has different skills than Gundogan so Pep will use Kovacic with different roles than ones he assigned to Gundogan. It is interesting to see how Pep will put Kovacic into his squad in a new season. I guess Kovacic will seriously focus on defense and with Kovacic, Pep will allow Rodri to play more attacking.

Right now they just have to focus on what they're going to do, Pep knows that there might be some adjustments with the new players in the empty squad but on the other hand he's always cool-headed and anticipates everything. I believe in Pep's choice although there are definitely some differences between Gundogan and Kovavic but of course we also have to see that Kovavic is not as bad as he looks and even in terms of experience and big competition he has got that not only at Chelsea but at Madrid and Inter Milan. So with the experience he has, of course I think Pep's choice will not be wrong.

We must mention one more thing, Manchester City did not spend too big cost to have Kovacic and the player will not too big pressure. With that cost, don't ask too much from Kovacic but I believe he will play well for them with all ability he has.

[hahay]

Friendly match
Arsenal vs Man United 0-2 and penalty 3-5 Man United won again.

The match was played in America, at the MetLife stadium. Bruno and Sancho scored 1 goal each. Uniquely, even though Man United won, there was extra time for penalties. It turns out that this is an agreement between Ten Hag and Arteta as a mental exercise in the conditions of many spectators. Although this is pre-season at least this can be a warning for Arsenal, their opponents have improved a lot. They have to prepare better, so as not to make the same mistakes for next season.

Source: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/soccer/news/arsenal-vs-man-united-live-score-result-preseason-friendly-usa/ewizvmy3o5zd4lby2pgaul7v

It was a unique way of playing a friendly match like that, because basically Manchester United had won in normal time of 90 minutes. But apparently, they still continued the match to the penalty shootout and again, Manchester United succeeded in the penalty shootout, meaning no one failed. But in that way, can we really conclude that Manchester United will be better prepared than Arsenal for the new season later? To be honest, I personally not so sure, because of course the atmosphere and pressure will be completely different.

[Docnaster]

Friendly match
Arsenal vs Man United 0-2 and penalty 3-5 Man United won again.

The match was played in America, at the MetLife stadium. Bruno and Sancho scored 1 goal each. Uniquely, even though Man United won, there was extra time for penalties. It turns out that this is an agreement between Ten Hag and Arteta as a mental exercise in the conditions of many spectators. Although this is pre-season at least this can be a warning for Arsenal, their opponents have improved a lot. They have to prepare better, so as not to make the same mistakes for next season.

Source: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/soccer/news/arsenal-vs-man-united-live-score-result-preseason-friendly-usa/ewizvmy3o5zd4lby2pgaul7v

I was trying to stream the match but I had poor network because I was away from home and didn't travel with my network.
But I read the highlights in the media. It seems that the young Manchester United Maino dominated Declean Rice in the midfield.
That was the only highlight I have been getting on social media. If Manchester United has developed someone like that and with the inclusion of Mount, it means they have solved their midfield problems for the coming season.

[bering]

Friendly match
Arsenal vs Man United 0-2 and penalty 3-5 Man United won again.

The match was played in America, at the MetLife stadium. Bruno and Sancho scored 1 goal each. Uniquely, even though Man United won, there was extra time for penalties. It turns out that this is an agreement between Ten Hag and Arteta as a mental exercise in the conditions of many spectators. Although this is pre-season at least this can be a warning for Arsenal, their opponents have improved a lot. They have to prepare better, so as not to make the same mistakes for next season.

Source: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/soccer/news/arsenal-vs-man-united-live-score-result-preseason-friendly-usa/ewizvmy3o5zd4lby2pgaul7v

Good for Manchester United because they have won the match at the normal time although this is not the real indicator of their strength but this is good progress after in the first match Manchester United only can able to win with slim score from Lyon and besides that Mason Mount performance was quite better compared to his latest performance and for Arsenal they still needed to improved their defensive lines because seems their players still unable to anticipate the counter attack from Manchester United and before the match begin both coaches have agreed to end the match on penalties because whether it Ten Hag and Arteta want their players to do the penalty shootout in front of many fans but this is not the first time for Manchester United because they have done before at season 2018 while against AC Milan

[Cryptmuster]

Of course winning a domestic league title is one thing and winning the Champions League title is another. The Champions League is the biggest challenge for even the best teams in Europe. Guardiola made a big effort to achieve that title with his usual game plan and strategies for years.

Maybe if he made slight changes according to their opponents over the years they might have won this title earlier who knows. But finally his system worked out and they won the title. It wasn't easy though as Inter resisted them really well. Guardiola will be remembered as the most successful manager in team history when he leaves.

Guardiola has the potential to repeat this achievement several more times, and he will most likely strive for this, but even without this, he will go down in history as one of the best coaches of all time. Guardiola has created a great team, I don't know who will be able to resist them in the Premier League. There are a lot of good teams in the Champions League who will try to counter him, but if Guardiola could repeat the success of last season again, that would be great.

[marcous]

It was a unique way of playing a friendly match like that, because basically Manchester United had won in normal time of 90 minutes. But apparently, they still continued the match to the penalty shootout and again, Manchester United succeeded in the penalty shootout, meaning no one failed. But in that way, can we really conclude that Manchester United will be better prepared than Arsenal for the new season later? To be honest, I personally not so sure, because of course the atmosphere and pressure will be completely different.

It's true, of course, the pressure and intensity of the game will be very much different from official matches, the main goal of friendly matches is to expand the fan base of each club, both Arsenal and Man United. The benchmark for friendly matches cannot be used as a benchmark for readiness to start a new competition. It is more appropriate to look at the first three weeks when the English Premier League rolls around, clubs that have the potential to top the standings until the end of the season and are consistent will be presented clearly.

Arsenal and Man United deserve to be included in the list of challengers for the defending champion Man City, they have spent a lot of their budgets to shop for players in this summer's transfer market.

[EarnOnVictor]

Friendly match
Arsenal vs Man United 0-2 and penalty 3-5 Man United won again.

The match was played in America, at the MetLife stadium. Bruno and Sancho scored 1 goal each. Uniquely, even though Man United won, there was extra time for penalties. It turns out that this is an agreement between Ten Hag and Arteta as a mental exercise in the conditions of many spectators. Although this is pre-season at least this can be a warning for Arsenal, their opponents have improved a lot. They have to prepare better, so as not to make the same mistakes for next season.

Source: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/soccer/news/arsenal-vs-man-united-live-score-result-preseason-friendly-usa/ewizvmy3o5zd4lby2pgaul7v

It was a unique way of playing a friendly match like that, because basically Manchester United had won in normal time of 90 minutes. But apparently, they still continued the match to the penalty shootout and again, Manchester United succeeded in the penalty shootout, meaning no one failed. But in that way, can we really conclude that Manchester United will be better prepared than Arsenal for the new season later? To be honest, I personally not so sure, because of course the atmosphere and pressure will be completely different.

With the team Man U is building now, I believe they would likely be better than Arsenal when the season eventually kickstarts. Friendly matches are not the main gauge to know what a club would perform though, it's just a warming-up program, yet I could still see that you are not paying attention to the 0-2 outcome where Man U defeated Arsenal. Fine, it's a penalty shootout eventually but this is part of the football and the clubs that won show that they have the better shots in that regard. What if it's a real match? The opponet should rather work on theirs as well rather than down talking it.

[Majestic-milf]

Friendly match
Arsenal vs Man United 0-2 and penalty 3-5 Man United won again.

The match was played in America, at the MetLife stadium. Bruno and Sancho scored 1 goal each. Uniquely, even though Man United won, there was extra time for penalties. It turns out that this is an agreement between Ten Hag and Arteta as a mental exercise in the conditions of many spectators. Although this is pre-season at least this can be a warning for Arsenal, their opponents have improved a lot. They have to prepare better, so as not to make the same mistakes for next season.

Source: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/soccer/news/arsenal-vs-man-united-live-score-result-preseason-friendly-usa/ewizvmy3o5zd4lby2pgaul7v

There's a pattern to Arsenal's kind of play that I've still not understood. Today they will play in their prime and the next day you see something terrible, I ask myself is this how they're going to play when the EPL begins? Arteta need to be deadly in both friendlies and competitive games just like Man City or the Bayern Munich team, they play with full force getting a win with bucket loads of goals without minding if who they're playing are up to their standard.
 I know Manchester united are no small team but the game last night should have been a game of the titans but I never saw much fire on the Arsenal team to me is a one sided affair, let's see how it will be like when the main event begins.

[Jody.Drummer]

When he let go of Gundogan and Pep brought in Kovacic then he realised that it could be fulfilled. The doubts will definitely be there but Pep will always give his best and there is no way he would have brought Kovavic without some consideration.

Kovacic played very well for Croatia in Euro 2020 and World Cup 2022 so he is a useful player and has good experience. He has different skills than Gundogan so Pep will use Kovacic with different roles than ones he assigned to Gundogan. It is interesting to see how Pep will put Kovacic into his squad in a new season. I guess Kovacic will seriously focus on defense and with Kovacic, Pep will allow Rodri to play more attacking.

Guardiola is smart in determining the players he brings, even though he lost a good player in midfield but in return he also brought players who were no less good than the previous players. Even though in the previous season he could not save his club, it was very natural when that happened because of the big obstacles faced by the club he was defending. I think if the club that strengthens can play a better game like Manchester City, then it will be very impactful for the form of the game.

Right now they just have to focus on what they're going to do, Pep knows that there might be some adjustments with the new players in the empty squad but on the other hand he's always cool-headed and anticipates everything. I believe in Pep's choice although there are definitely some differences between Gundogan and Kovavic but of course we also have to see that Kovavic is not as bad as he looks and even in terms of experience and big competition he has got that not only at Chelsea but at Madrid and Inter Milan. So with the experience he has, of course I think Pep's choice will not be wrong.

We must mention one more thing, Manchester City did not spend too big cost to have Kovacic and the player will not too big pressure. With that cost, don't ask too much from Kovacic but I believe he will play well for them with all ability he has.

I agree with you, at such a modest cost there shouldn't be any over-expectations about how it will look. Because it's worth what they spend. But we know that Guardiola is a smart coach in seeing the potential of a player, so that could be an extra boost for players who come to join the club led by Guardiola.
That motivation must come, especially now that Mamnchester City is one of the best clubs.