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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.4%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.6%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 189

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August 01, 2023, 08:57:45 PM
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The transfer window is still open, and because both coaches are experienced, they will know whether or not to sign fresh players for the following season after selling some of them to other clubs. Teams who sell players do so due of the manager's decision; if those players cannot fit into the pattern of football they want to play, they easily release them and use the ones that are available, or better yet, look for better replacements for them. If they've been doing well even after selling some players, they should be able to do the same when the regular season begins.
The problem is not about regenerating players every season on a regular basis, but that some teams always have difficulty realizing their coach's wishes to recruit the players they are targeting. I believe Pochettino, Ten Hag, Klopp, Arteta and Pep Guardiola have a roster that they are looking at, but that realization may be too difficult because a lot of players have been up-priced by their owning teams.

Coaches will make adjustments based on their needs and plans, that includes who they need and who they don't. Chelsea is the team that has been the most aggressive in recruiting new players, they have also sold the most players who are not included in Pochettino's plans for next season.
I'm not too sure about Chelsea progress next season because I think they will struggle relatively when they have to face strong teams in the games they play. So far, I'm more interested in the developments that are happening at Liverpool because slowly, Kloop is able to make the quality of the squad more well-organized for their performances in pre-season matches. Even nunez is more confident that he can perform more optimally next season.

Even if you look at the players that the top coaches are after in the EPL, of course they can succeed in recruiting them if they are supported by the large budget that is given to them to recruit players in this transfer window. So far, only Newcastle United have looked aggressive enough in placing a lot of players in order to strengthen themselves in the EPL or Ucl next season. So for Manchester United they are still continuing to recruit in this transfer window and Erik Ten Hag has managed to recruit Hojlund recently. Manchester city is still active in recruiting players in this transfer window, they lost several of their core players in this transfer window.

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August 01, 2023, 08:57:58 PM
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The transfer window is still open, and because both coaches are experienced, they will know whether or not to sign fresh players for the following season after selling some of them to other clubs. Teams who sell players do so due of the manager's decision; if those players cannot fit into the pattern of football they want to play, they easily release them and use the ones that are available, or better yet, look for better replacements for them. If they've been doing well even after selling some players, they should be able to do the same when the regular season begins.
The problem is not about regenerating players every season on a regular basis, but that some teams always have difficulty realizing their coach's wishes to recruit the players they are targeting. I believe Pochettino, Ten Hag, Klopp, Arteta and Pep Guardiola have a roster that they are looking at, but that realization may be too difficult because a lot of players have been up-priced by their owning teams.

Coaches will make adjustments based on their needs and plans, that includes who they need and who they don't. Chelsea is the team that has been the most aggressive in recruiting new players, they have also sold the most players who are not included in Pochettino's plans for next season.

Yet the players recruited aren't worth winning them the top four positions this season. They have quality winger's but the midfielder's in exception of Enzo Fernandez are not qualified for Chelsea. I also doubt Pochetino would do a great job for Chelsea. It would sound stupid but Brighton current head coach would have done a better job for Chelsea to Pochetino.
Chelsea has got to sign Caicedo from Brighton and also Kudus from Ajax to make the midfielder's solid else they're going nowhere.

Declan Rice is a good example of overpriced players this season. He's tough and solid but the fee is way too high for Declan Rice. He was effective helping West Ham winning the Conference Cup. He has all it takes to settle down with the gunner's.

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August 01, 2023, 09:01:31 PM
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In the meantime, quotes have surfaced on who will win the title this season:

Manchester City 1.73

Arsenal 6.00

Liverpool 9.00

Manchester United 12.00

Chelsea 13.00

Newcastle United 15.00

Tottenham Hotspur 41.00

In my opinion, Arsenal is a little overrated (relative to all clubs except City, i don’t consider City at all and consider them a clear favorite). It is quite interesting that Newcastle is in the main group of teams (we are talking about the title and not the top 4!), well Tottenham without comments  Grin

The odds for Tottenham seem funny to me because as I can see there are not many people who think Tottenham will have the chance to even race for the title mostly beaus they made a bad decision by firing their coach Conte in last season instead of hiring better players.

I was not expecting to see 15 for Newcastle but maybe this is mostly because of their amazing performance in the last season in which they got the champions league ticket.

But regarding Manchester United maybe it with to risk it because now after Ten Hag started the season having better trainings we can expect to see more from this team.

Tottenham has an honest underdog quote. It's both sad and funny at the same time, but on paper they look weaker than the other 6 teams so it's a fair quote. As for United, the coefficient probably reflects the real chances (why shouldn’t the clear favorite and two weaker pursuers fall into a crisis once every 12 years and give the title to another strong team), but given the duration of the tournament, I won’t wait for it to play (at it can take up to 20-30 years due to dispersion haha).

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August 01, 2023, 09:08:52 PM
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Klopp is really taking a risky move by selling their two veteran midfielders, it's similar like Chelsea. Although the performance of both Chelsea and Liverpool in club friendlies are good enough, but we don't know what will happen in the real match.
Liverpool have already released and sold out a good number of their players such as Oxlade Chamberlain, Naby Keita, James Milner, Roberto Firmino. Jordan Henderson and Fabinho are the latest to be added to the exit list. It might turned out to be a dumb move to have all these experienced players leave the club at once but at the same time overhaul of the squad could be what the team need to push for a top four finish next season. But my problem is they've not really brought in enough players to make up for the departed ones. So far the they have only bought Mac Allister from Brighton and Dominik Szoboszlai from Leipzig, more signings is needed before the transfer window closes.
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August 01, 2023, 09:20:19 PM
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Last season the main competition for Haaland was Harry Kane, but as far as I understand he will be playing in a different league next season... So probably Haaland will remain the top scorer in the EPL, because he scores twice as much as the others... I would like to see new strikers at other clubs, maybe then Man City will have a good opponent...

I'm not sure which striker and from which team you'd like to talk about as a potential competitor for Haaland next season, but there's definitely going to be. Haaland was unstoppable last season, but I think his form can change from season to season. I'm not sure he'll score 2x as many goals as last season, but I think his average goals scored over the course of a season will still be above 30.

So far I still believe Harry Kane will stay at Tottenham so he will remain a competitor for Haaland. If in the end Bayern Munich agrees to some of Tottenham's special demands for Kane, then I think another striker will be on the front lines for the top scorer title. Manchester United, Newcastle, Chelsea and Liverpool all have great strikers, maybe one of them will be a great competitor for Haaland.
I agree with this because it true that in every season sometimes the performance of player increases sometimes it goes down and it all caused by a number of problems but so far I see that Haaland still doing well and the opportunity to perform the same as last season is still a lot of hope even though in every premier league clubs have the best strikers but in my opinion haaland is still the best point of view.
Actually, there are still a number of reliable strikers like Harry Kane and Ivan Toney, but they are still behind in terms of top scorers last season.
But the most important thing here that we will always see new talents or old players who can surprisingly improve their performance so that this season there may be other player who will become Haaland competitors.
Indeed haaland will have a little bit competition this time around because they are currently three Vikings strikers in the league and plus the fact that there is still lots of possibilities of him not reaching up to his standard because most of their opponent team defenders will be well prepared for him as they have known some of the ways in which he moves and score goals so I can bet you that most team coaches will work with their defence to actually counter his presence in the attack.
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August 01, 2023, 09:22:44 PM
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Klopp is really taking a risky move by selling their two veteran midfielders, it's similar like Chelsea. Although the performance of both Chelsea and Liverpool in club friendlies are good enough, but we don't know what will happen in the real match.

Chelsea and Liverpool lack of midfielders.
Manchester United lack of strikers.

I would say Manchester City, Arsenal and Newcastle United are shining in this season.

The transfer window is still open, and because both coaches are experienced, they will know whether or not to sign fresh players for the following season after selling some of them to other clubs. Teams who sell players do so due of the manager's decision; if those players cannot fit into the pattern of football they want to play, they easily release them and use the ones that are available, or better yet, look for better replacements for them. If they've been doing well even after selling some players, they should be able to do the same when the regular season begins.
Yeah right. For now there is still about 1 month left for all clubs who are still hunting for players in the transfer market. And I guess everyone should hurry up this time. Lately I think Chelsea have become more aggressive in the transfer market because even now the club is in the process of negotiating for Dusan Vlahovis who will be exchanged for R. Lukaku. And it looks like the two clubs have agreed.

Chelsea's performance in pre-season has also been very good and indeed, much praise has flooded the performance of the new Chelsea coach, Pochettino, who has indeed shown progress at a club that slumped last season. And yes, this is not an easy job. But it turns out Pochettino made it look easy. Well I'm looking forward to the real game in the next 2 weeks when the season starts. Will Chelsea be as good as in pre-season. Or maybe Chelsea will remain the same as last season.
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August 01, 2023, 09:45:24 PM
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I don't think many of you have spoken about Liverpool during pre-season - why have they been ignored?
I know Liverpool weren't so good last season and they won't qualify for the Champions League next season - but I'm sure we'll do our best next season.

Performance-wise - I think Liverpool have done quite well in pre-season. Liverpool won 2/3 of the games and Darwin Nunez looked better right now. Darwin Nunez managed to score 4 goals in those 3 match - so I hope Halaand will get some tough competition from him next season. In a few hours - Liverpool will againt Bayern Munich. I hope Darwin Nunez scores too - it will give him a lot of confidence going into the Premier League.

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August 01, 2023, 09:54:44 PM
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I'm not too sure about Chelsea progress next season because I think they will struggle relatively when they have to face strong teams in the games they play. So far, I'm more interested in the developments that are happening at Liverpool because slowly, Kloop is able to make the quality of the squad more well-organized for their performances in pre-season matches. Even nunez is more confident that he can perform more optimally next season.
Chelsea are still considering getting several players to strengthen their club, especially the front and midfield. Ahh, actually they still need great players to strengthen their defense. yes, Chelsea does need a lot of talented players to make their club really able to get up again and be as victorious as before. But until now, it seems that signing several new players is still not enough. From a number of things, they are still rumors that Chelsea have just attracted or have not managed to get an agreement with several players from other clubs.

Even recently, we also heard that Chelsea also want to sign Mbappe, right? It probably won't work, so it's better for Chelsea to focus on other players

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August 01, 2023, 09:56:34 PM
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If Chelsea still needs a lot of players to be better, that is a big problem. Not that they do not need many players because they do, but also they have spent so much money, which means that its going to be a problem. If you spend that much and still need players, that is a big big issue and should be considered as failure. I personally would say that if a team spent that much money in a single year, they should have been fighting for the top position. In any case, they are smarter now, they sell some, they get some, and they are actually making a good result in the end, that's actually a good thing. Arsenal on the other hand, they are doing much better, I am expecting a lot from them.

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August 01, 2023, 10:27:47 PM
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Last season the main competition for Haaland was Harry Kane, but as far as I understand he will be playing in a different league next season... So probably Haaland will remain the top scorer in the EPL, because he scores twice as much as the others... I would like to see new strikers at other clubs, maybe then Man City will have a good opponent...

I'm not sure which striker and from which team you'd like to talk about as a potential competitor for Haaland next season, but there's definitely going to be. Haaland was unstoppable last season, but I think his form can change from season to season. I'm not sure he'll score 2x as many goals as last season, but I think his average goals scored over the course of a season will still be above 30.

So far I still believe Harry Kane will stay at Tottenham so he will remain a competitor for Haaland. If in the end Bayern Munich agrees to some of Tottenham's special demands for Kane, then I think another striker will be on the front lines for the top scorer title. Manchester United, Newcastle, Chelsea and Liverpool all have great strikers, maybe one of them will be a great competitor for Haaland.
Harry Kane is the best striker in the EPL,and it won't be nice to lose such striker.I love the fact that Totteham placed a very high price on him so they will find it difficult to meet that price tag.Bayern are really very eager to get a deal done for him,knowing how good the player is,they are expected to come up with another bid that might get close to Tottenham's valuation of the player,but I still believe with you that the deal will not materialise,reason being that the period in the transfer window is now getting short,and Totthenham won't be able to get a player in the caliber of Kane,therefore,they will do everything possible to keep him at the club,even if they will be at risk of losing him for free next season.I also think Salah will get to his best next season,and will be able to compete with Haaland for the golden boot.It would be nice if about three or four players are competing fiercely for that golden boot next season,and I would love it if Gabriel Jesus of Arsenal is one of them.

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August 01, 2023, 11:04:01 PM
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The transfer window is still open, and because both coaches are experienced, they will know whether or not to sign fresh players for the following season after selling some of them to other clubs. Teams who sell players do so due of the manager's decision; if those players cannot fit into the pattern of football they want to play, they easily release them and use the ones that are available, or better yet, look for better replacements for them. If they've been doing well even after selling some players, they should be able to do the same when the regular season begins.
When the transfer window is still wide open like today, big clubs will consider players by looking at their games in friendly matches, but unfortunately, good players will have quite an expensive value, and that must be an important consideration for a team when they want to buy new players because, presently, not all teams have a large amount of money.

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August 01, 2023, 11:13:13 PM
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If Chelsea still needs a lot of players to be better, that is a big problem. Not that they do not need many players because they do, but also they have spent so much money, which means that its going to be a problem. If you spend that much and still need players, that is a big big issue and should be considered as failure. I personally would say that if a team spent that much money in a single year, they should have been fighting for the top position. In any case, they are smarter now, they sell some, they get some, and they are actually making a good result in the end, that's actually a good thing. Arsenal on the other hand, they are doing much better, I am expecting a lot from them.

Chelsea's squad is not extremely big like before pochettino was coming to the club. Chelsea has been selling 13 players in total and more to come, as there are some names that yet to be sold to another club. I hope that if chelsea will not make me feel disappointed again with its performance in premier league. The new squad was much more promising compared with the old squad. The total players in the club is far too small compared with before chelsea was selling so many players.

That will be given consistently for the players to play caused by pochettino can pick the players easily to do some rotations in the club. Arsenal was doing better last year, but it's still uncertain how good arsenal in upcoming season.
We will not be able to know that without watching the performance from the club in the league directly. We have become even closer to the opening match of EPL.

It will be very interesting to see chelsea to face liverpool in opening match.

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While the teams are getting ready for the next season and they are in the training camps but there is a chance for some players like Bernardo Silva to leave Machester City and join Barcelona in the next season.
However, because of the financial problems they have there is not much chance for Bernardo Silva to play in La Liga in the next season and Guardiola doesn't want to lose this player too.
But for any reason, if Bernardo Silva leaves Manchester City there will be hard days for this team to find players.


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August 01, 2023, 11:34:40 PM
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While the teams are getting ready for the next season and they are in the training camps but there is a chance for some players like Bernardo Silva to leave Machester City and join Barcelona in the next season.
However, because of the financial problems they have there is not much chance for Bernardo Silva to play in La Liga in the next season and Guardiola doesn't want to lose this player too.
But for any reason, if Bernardo Silva leaves Manchester City there will be hard days for this team to find players.


Bernado Silva is very important with Pep Guardiola and Manchester City and if I am right, Pep Guardiola at least did not want to lose Bernado Silva and in the past, he tried to prevent his transfer to another club. He successfully convinced the player to stay in Manchester City and together they won three titles in the past season with Champions League trophy is a most wanted one in the club history.

Bernado Silva surely can find new challenge as well as new opportunities and fresh experience but you are right too. Barcelona will need a lot of money to buy Bernado Silva from Manchester City and they must give him very high salary. I don't think Barcelona have both conditions but they will need one more important condition. They must be competitive enough in Champions League as Bernado will not be happy by playing for a club that easily drops to Europa League knock out matches after the group stage in Champions League.
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August 01, 2023, 11:57:02 PM
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Klopp is really taking a risky move by selling their two veteran midfielders, it's similar like Chelsea. Although the performance of both Chelsea and Liverpool in club friendlies are good enough, but we don't know what will happen in the real match.

Chelsea and Liverpool lack of midfielders.
Manchester United lack of strikers.
Are the comparison of the three teams(Chelsea, Liverpool, and Manchester United) based on the weaknesses in their squad from the previous season? Both of the three teams lack the things you listed, but I believe that by adding fresh, high-quality players to their teams, things will start to improve.
Chelsea and Manchester United have no doubt taken the necessary steps to sign the players they require to fill the gaps in their team, but I am unsure of what Liverpool's coach and owner are up to. Whether they will sign additional players to their team at late hours.

I was impressed by Chelsea's new striker additions during the current transfer window as they participated in the preseason match that resulted in their first season-opening trophy.

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August 02, 2023, 12:06:01 AM
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Haaland is still above both of them because Haaland has proven the quality he had in the previous season, which managed to bring Manchester City to a treble winner.
Indeed, agree, proven...

Isak he is quite a talented player and he just needs time to show how aggressive he is in scoring lots of goals. Another thing he might need is support from the players to provide lots of assists to score goals.
Yes, it's a shame if the club can't maximize its potential due to the limited potential of the other players who are not able to really potentially support it.
He exactly really needs more contribution from other supports. Whatever the player is very potential, he cannot bring his team individually.

For Hojlund, he is a player who has the potential to become a star at Manchester United. We have seen the quality he has with Atalanta. But I hope he can adapt to the Premier League game.
Very curious about the results of how Hojlund will really enter and contribute to Man United. And see how Ten Hag polishes himself to become an extraordinary player at Man United as expected. but what is clear, he is a talented young player.

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August 02, 2023, 12:58:39 AM
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While the teams are getting ready for the next season and they are in the training camps but there is a chance for some players like Bernardo Silva to leave Machester City and join Barcelona in the next season.
However, because of the financial problems they have there is not much chance for Bernardo Silva to play in La Liga in the next season and Guardiola doesn't want to lose this player too.
But for any reason, if Bernardo Silva leaves Manchester City there will be hard days for this team to find players.


When you're an important player in the club, everybody will do anything  to retained him. Barcelona is also planning to combine the two outstanding players at Camp Nou, although it appears that the deal with Bernardo Silva would be extremely difficult to accomplish. Manchester City needs him, Pep Guardiola needs him, and the fans will need him; he will remain at Etihad Stadium and continue to set incredible records. Pep Guardiola is enthusiastic about Benardo Silva, who is one of the most essential players in his squad, alongside Kelvin De Bruyne.

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While the teams are getting ready for the next season and they are in the training camps but there is a chance for some players like Bernardo Silva to leave Machester City and join Barcelona in the next season.
However, because of the financial problems they have there is not much chance for Bernardo Silva to play in La Liga in the next season and Guardiola doesn't want to lose this player too.
But for any reason, if Bernardo Silva leaves Manchester City there will be hard days for this team to find players.
It will not be so hard for a club that has won treble winners to find replacement for him. The main problem if it will be very hard to get a player that can adapt to the manchester city as good as silva.
The fact that if silva has been always contributing a lot to the club since a few years ago once he was coming to the manchester city. It will be so difficult for pep to let him go at this moment caused by he has become one of main players in the club.

City gonna be very hard in finding a new player that can adapt to the club like him. That's why city shall have done something better in securing him from another club.

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August 02, 2023, 01:37:12 AM
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It will not be so hard for a club that has won treble winners to find replacement for him. The main problem if it will be very hard to get a player that can adapt to the manchester city as good as silva.
The fact that if silva has been always contributing a lot to the club since a few years ago once he was coming to the manchester city. It will be so difficult for pep to let him go at this moment caused by he has become one of main players in the club.
City gonna be very hard in finding a new player that can adapt to the club like him. That's why city shall have done something better in securing him from another club.
It's difficult to say about the future of Bernardo Silva, sometimes Pep Guardiola says the opposite for his players. He is an important player for this club, and we really need him, after a few days the player in question left the club. Maybe Pep is acting like that to maintain the mentality and concentration of other players so they don't get distracted by the transfer market.

I think Man City, especially Pep, will have no trouble if they lose Silva, because there will be many other players they can easily recruit. But in line with what you said, sometimes the adaptation process will be the biggest challenge, especially since the EPL is very competitive every season.

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August 02, 2023, 03:59:21 AM
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It's difficult to say about the future of Bernardo Silva, sometimes Pep Guardiola says the opposite for his players. He is an important player for this club, and we really need him, after a few days the player in question left the club. Maybe Pep is acting like that to maintain the mentality and concentration of other players so they don't get distracted by the transfer market.

I think Man City, especially Pep, will have no trouble if they lose Silva, because there will be many other players they can easily recruit. But in line with what you said, sometimes the adaptation process will be the biggest challenge, especially since the EPL is very competitive every season.
Despite with rumor Bernando Silva leaves Manchester City in this summer but he still in starting line up last pre season match against Atletico Madrid, I don't think Pep Guardiola will loss Bernando Silva because still placed Silva in Manchester City scheme. Barcelona and PSG are teams linked for signing Bernando Silva not opening yet proposal with how much bid offer until few weeks later before window transfer closing.
Pep Guardiola seems not sell yet Bernando Silva although have many player available replace his position but Silva still important player under Guardiola's scheme.

Don't forget, Primer League will begin two weeks later and Manchester City will be opening match for FA Community Shiled against Arsenal, its seems interested for The Citizen opening first tittle in season 2023/24 by winning Community Shield tittle.

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