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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 83 (45.1%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.8%)
Arsenal - 39 (21.2%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.8%)
Manchester United - 12 (6.5%)
Totenham - 7 (3.8%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 184

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August 23, 2023, 06:37:14 PM
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I was surprised with Tottenham's performance because I was thinking that without Harry Kane, the team may not perform well like they did in their match against Manchester United. But still, what you said is true; they still have the motivation of being at home, so let's see if they go away and how they will perform there. However, I think Manchester United's performance was not too poor, but they have some weak points that they need to strengthen before the league becomes tougher than this because they still have more matches that will be tougher than this one. With these, I think they need a few players to make their squad strong.

Let's see how Tottenham's performance will go since this is just the beginning of the season. Let's see how they perform in other matches before we know where they will be in the sport.
You're right, it's still early in the season where it's still very possible that there will be many changes from the shape of a team as the season goes on. The performance of Tottenham's attack line without Harry Kane will definitely be affected, but as long as other players are able to play and contribute then Tottenham is fine.

But apart from that, I still believe Tottenham is not a team that will fight for the title. Tottenham are only competitors in the top 4 so they don't have more motivation to try hard to get there. But the main point is; anything is possible.

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August 23, 2023, 06:38:37 PM
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Pochettino has a great responsibility. Last year, Potter left Chelsea a wreck. Actually, his staff was good, but he finished the league in the lower ranks, no matter how difficult it was. Chelsea has always been a team that competes in the top four. Although expectations for Pochettino are lower this year because of the bad chart last year, I hope they will be in the top four this year.
Pochetino should be able to do that. He was given very abundant funds, he was given freedom of transfer. He should have many chances to make the player of his dreams. With Tottenham he was always in the top 7 so there is great hope he can do better with Chelsea. But indeed, as long as he has been a coach, no major championship title can be obtained.
Right now, we can't predict about anything because nothing is clear as many teams are giving their best which was not expected, and few teams are still in limbo which is surely interesting even Pochettino done good job in transfer window, but there are rumors still Todd is interfering in players transfer which is not good because with this most chances they can face another problem in this season like they have in last season.
Performance is still not bad, but they need few players to be adopted these conditions and also have better use of this all adjustment which can bring good results for the team in coming weeks, but now situation is clear we will have one of the most entertaining season coming to watch with these top teams.

I wouldn't say Pochettino did a bad job. He is progressing well with Chelsea. Chelsea may not win well in the first two matches. But their performance is not as weak as last season. Their performance is very organized. Pochettino has worked to strengthen the bond between the players. But the problem is that Chelsea's squad is still not strong enough. Chelsea's attack is a bit weak. Pochettino needs to add another experienced striker to the attack. Also Chelsea's biggest problem right now is their defence. They lost badly against West Ham because of poor defence. Chelsea conceded 3 goals. West Ham only had 24% ball possession in this match. They still managed to score three goals. If the defense cannot be strengthened, the expected good performance from Chelsea will not be seen in the upcoming matches.

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August 23, 2023, 06:52:15 PM
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That game between Manchester United and Totthenham Hurtspur is one game I was really surprised about because looking at Totthenham at the moment and how Kane left them is something I never thought they were going to get that kind of performance especially against a big team like United.Richarlison  might just start scoring goals now for Spurs as Kane is no longer there.

Tottenham Hotspur caught everyone off guard with their performance against Manchester United. Even if Kane has already gone to join Bayern Munich, this shows that they are not a weak scoring squad. When changes occur in a team, the ability of the players and managers to quickly adapt to the new changes demonstrates how excellent of a team and manager the team has. Tottenham Hotspur are still extremely excellent and will do well this season, as seen by their performance against a team as big like Manchester United.

The problem with Chelsea is they are stuck in a downward spiral. They are stuck in a loophole of bad performance. The next match for Chelsea should be really easy for them, it is against Luton Town. I think some people who do not forward English Premier League regularly might even not have heard this name before. This is going to be a very easy chance for them to grab 3 points.

To be honest, even if they do grab 3 points from this match I don't think which is going to be the end of their problem. They definitely have some problems going on. And I agree that they do have a problem with adaptation. Doesn't matter if it is before the match with the tactics or during the match on the field.

Luton Town is barely well-known in the Premier League, and I only became aware of the club after its promotion to the premier league this season. I haven't seen any of their previous matches, so I'm not sure how well they can perform. However, when playing against a team like Luton Town, three points should be considered a bonus for Chelsea. Chelsea are currently unpredictable and cannot be relied on; even when they played superb football in the first half against West Ham United, they still ended up losing 3-1 to them, which I never expected of them. If they're clever, they'll obtain the three points; if they're not, they'll fumble and give the three points out.

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August 23, 2023, 06:52:40 PM
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Yes I don't rate Tottenham too well even though their game is pretty well organized. But I would judge Manchester United's game which was really very messy and didn't really pose a real threat to the Spurs back line at all. I think that almost all of the playing lines are very bad and I suggest that Erik Ten Hag should evaluate his starting line-up again, especially in the attacking sector. Ten Hag must attract Rashford as a winger because he is very fast in that position, while in the ETH midfield must also change the composition with another scheme, Mount looks still quite overwhelmed wearing the Red Devils shirt and fortunately he has been confirmed absent for the upcoming match due to injury and Ten Hag has a great opportunity to change the midfield by playing Mc Tominay paired with Casemiro or choosing Eriksen to be an attacking midfielder together Bruno. I'm sure if the midfield has found a suitable standard then the flow of the ball to the attack line will be very focused and the chances of scoring goals will be more open.
Maybe we have to understand that this is still the start of the season for Man United and this is only their second game, not until the middle of the season or the end of the season. let's just wait for the next game, we have to look in the mirror from the year before Man United. At the start of the season they were very messed up. then what happened at the end of the season Manchester United were able to finish in three standings and enter the champions league and one caraubo cup trophy.

But on the other hand, what I see from Eric Ten Hag is that he bought the wrong players. one of his purchases was Mason Mont, of course we all know how Mont was at Chelsea last season, his quality was very poor but how come Man United bought him instead. the best thing to buy is a playmaker because Man United really needs a player who can set the rhythm of the game.
And what makes Man United often lose is Eric Ten Hag's mistake which was too monotonous in implementing tactics and strategies so that it was very easy for the opposing team's coach to guess, especially against Tottenham last week.
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August 23, 2023, 06:54:37 PM
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Manchester United didn't play too bad because they also created goal chances, but I think they had problems in defense against Tottenham. Marcus Rashford, Antony and Casemiro at least came close to scoring in the match, but in the end all of Manchester United's efforts failed.

Tottenham, who are playing at home, clearly have high motivation to win the match. It was the first victory for Ange Postecoglou as the new Tottenham manager, but it looks like he will try to maintain that winning trend when he travels to Bournemouth headquarters this week. Meanwhile, Manchester United will host Nottingham this week, but it shouldn't be too tough a match to win.


It does seem to me like they have been over worked and didn't get to recover fully before the game they look really exhausted and they do need to drop Mason Mount sincerely.
Rashford shouldn't be used upfront again he should be used elsewhere, off course the manager knows the role that suits him very well.

But then the lose could be the perfect boost for Manchester United players to bounce up and face it in the next game. Man wasn't excited seeing how Manchester United lost to Tottenham Hotspur who are even without them finest attacking player. ( Harry Kane ).
Nothigham Forest a re tougher than we imagine we'll get to see Elanga in action against United. It's a new season, it'll be stupid to use last seasons results to judge how they play.

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August 23, 2023, 07:00:09 PM
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Harry Kane departure certainly affected the depth of Tottenham squad, the first two matches in the EPL could not be fully used as a benchmark. Kane has contributed to the team over a long period of time, his consistency in scoring goals is difficult to replace. Agree with what you said, The Lilywhites victory over United was more about luck. Because Eriq Ten Hag troops have not performed at their best, after the reshuffle in the transfer market.

Son will become the new foundation after Kane leaves, Richarlison, who uses number 9 after the death of Harry Kane, is still unable to score.

I don’t think Tottenham can be said to lucky with the win over Manchester United. If they had won the game with only the own goal scored by Martinez, then we could perhaps say Spurs had won with a bit of luck on their side. But that isn’t so. They had played well and were rewarded with the win at the end of the game.

Kane exit from Tottenham may have affected the squad a bit as Kane was really instrumental in the team as he was relied upon when it came to scoring goals and goals he did score.
Son is a great player and could greatly help cushion the effects of Kane’s departure from the club.
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August 23, 2023, 07:06:57 PM
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That point is a very important point and I think all clubs also think about that, they have to improve every week, if they can't improve, at least they can consistently demonstrate a slick game.
It's a job for every club in the competition to always evaluate from the matches they have passed. For example, through the first week, and they must evaluate their performance in the first week, in order to be better in the second week, and so on.
They must not be complacent with what they achieve.
Right, you have identified important areas where the team has to develop. Their attacking prowess might be improved by boosting midfield creativity and building greater relationships between players. At this early stage of the season, it is wise to be cautious when evaluating their chances of winning the championship because teams frequently find their rhythm with time. Undoubtedly fascinating speculation exists over the upcoming race especially in light of the shifting dynamics. Although they have achieved early victories Arsenal's near miss from last season makes them an interesting team to watch. However, sustaining consistency and ongoing growth will be crucial for long term success.

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August 23, 2023, 07:08:47 PM
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Tottenham had a very good performance against Man United. Even playing without Harry Kane, they know what to do.
Tottenham had enough time to prepare for a team without Harry Kane, that is why they can play better without him right now. Formerly when he was in the teams and their best players, there must have been a lot of dependence on him while he was still at the club, and that would have affected the performance of the other players on the team. With him now in a new club, the remaining players in the club understand that they now have to work harder and together as a team if they must win games. Also, the new coach's strategy of playing attacking football is very good for the team.

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August 23, 2023, 07:21:29 PM
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Honestly we all need to pipe down for now. Arsenal aren't at their best yet which is the same for all other Premier League team but, they are getting the three points, Manchester City hasn't been fantastic either. And again what I’ve noticed about this Arsenal team this season is that, there is no permanent formation. Arteta is setting up his formation and team list based on the opposition he's facing. So they’re going to be fluid this season with a lot of formation changes even within the game.
Yes, Aeteta seems to be looking for the right formation for his team, but even so, Arsenal's game is not too bad. I think this season the Gunners are much more powerful than last season, the addition of several new players who are quite experienced will certainly have a positive influence on the team. Apart from that, Arteta will also be waiting for Gabriel Jesus to return to fitness and his presence will certainly add strength to the front lines.
In first two games Arsenal were not good as mostly were expecting which is surely big problem for them right now their attackers are missing chances which are surely going to hurt against big teams and with this performance they can suffer as well Arteta done good job in transfer window but right now their problem is adjustment of players which is not happening as they were expecting, but currently they are still heading with two wins and now their third game is also against struggling Fulham which after losing their top score Metrovic now having problem and can struggle for the staying in Premier League because in last game at home they were lower than ordinary and lost badly now they are going to face Arsenal on road and this can create problem for them as well, so we have to wait for the Arteta and his strategy which give them better results.
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August 23, 2023, 07:22:18 PM
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Pep has already built the team to the highest level that without his presence for three months or more,the players will use his playing pattern to win their matches because they are all professionals and can take care of whatever challenge that they will face on the field during his absence.

As you stated, Manchester City have no strong match to play because it will be only Arsenal that is a strong club and they will face Arsenal after playing those five easy matches. I have the strong feelings that they will win Arsenal if they clash because they will want to revenge the community shield victory of Arsenal over them.
That is the advantage of having a good coach that will spend the time in building an independent team,  but then also Manchester city is still on the hang over of the success pf the last season in both leagues where Manchester city won the premiere leagues and even the Champions Leagues respectfully so in this season,  and with the level of the weak opponent line up for them in the early stage of this season,  Manchester City players will be able to deliver in those matches effortlessly.

But where there will be a need for technicality before and during matches that could need the presence of the coach is when they are playing against fellow big clubs but for now, they still have an easy game lineup.

In fact Pep will not miss much, he will be back after the international break, it is unlikely that the players will start losing without him, I am sure that he can even remotely manage the squad, give instructions for the match and so on, because there is no problem to pass instructions to the one who is currently at the helm of the team

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August 23, 2023, 07:23:01 PM
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Tottenham had a very good performance against Man United. Even playing without Harry Kane, they know what to do.
Expects the best performance from Tottenham Hotspur after winning Manchester united was an easy job for Spurs this season, although no one thought they will become victorious in the match. Harry Kane is a top striker and made his presence counts in the club. We have quite amazing players currently in the team, with the results we are having, it means the club will push far this season. Tottenham Hotspur will do well this new season, perhaps the club suffered enough last season, failing to win a spot in US champions league. The new boss will make sure he enchanced the club pattern and players.

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Manchester United didn't play too bad because they also created goal chances, but I think they had problems in defense against Tottenham. Marcus Rashford, Antony and Casemiro at least came close to scoring in the match, but in the end all of Manchester United's efforts failed.

Tottenham, who are playing at home, clearly have high motivation to win the match. It was the first victory for Ange Postecoglou as the new Tottenham manager, but it looks like he will try to maintain that winning trend when he travels to Bournemouth headquarters this week. Meanwhile, Manchester United will host Nottingham this week, but it shouldn't be too tough a match to win.

United  didn’t play well because those chances were actually created by the defensive incapabilities of Tottenham and united poor attacker couldn’t utilize those chances. If I could give a verdict about that game I will definitely not blame the defense but rather the attack. The three attackers were not causing Tottenham any problems and in turn couldn’t track back to help the defense and the Tottenham attackers became too hand full to control by United defense.

Another thing again is the midfield combo is definitely not good but mount and Bruno are no 8 and 10 and not a 6, with both of them drifting too close to the opposition defense they leave behind spaces which is definitely hard to cover only by Casemiro. A proper no 6 with Casemiro will be perfect for that midfield because you need not only Bruno freed but also reduces the defensive duties by Casemiro. If united doesn’t address any of this problems soon then I think there season will continue to get bad
Yes I don't rate Tottenham too well even though their game is pretty well organized. But I would judge Manchester United's game which was really very messy and didn't really pose a real threat to the Spurs back line at all. I think that almost all of the playing lines are very bad and I suggest that Erik Ten Hag should evaluate his starting line-up again, especially in the attacking sector. Ten Hag must attract Rashford as a winger because he is very fast in that position, while in the ETH midfield must also change the composition with another scheme, Mount looks still quite overwhelmed wearing the Red Devils shirt and fortunately he has been confirmed absent for the upcoming match due to injury and Ten Hag has a great opportunity to change the midfield by playing Mc Tominay paired with Casemiro or choosing Eriksen to be an attacking midfielder together Bruno. I'm sure if the midfield has found a suitable standard then the flow of the ball to the attack line will be very focused and the chances of scoring goals will be more open.
A very poor performance from Man United with the amount that they used in buying players during the  transfer. Man united problem now us the midfield, Casemiro isn't doing anything because he is been overpaid and he is overwhelmed with his pay and getting fat. Hisperformance last season was good but this season,he is declining. Eric Hag needs to work on the midfield by buying a new midfielder who will be able to work with Casemiro. If only the coach can offload some old players and buy new ones to reshuffle the team,then I think there will be hope for them this season,if not it will be a tough season for the red devils this season because with their recent performance, it would take them anywhere.

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August 23, 2023, 08:17:07 PM
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A very poor performance from Man United with the amount that they used in buying players during the  transfer. Man united problem now us the midfield, Casemiro isn't doing anything because he is been overpaid and he is overwhelmed with his pay and getting fat. Hisperformance last season was good but this season,he is declining. Eric Hag needs to work on the midfield by buying a new midfielder who will be able to work with Casemiro. If only the coach can offload some old players and buy new ones to reshuffle the team,then I think there will be hope for them this season,if not it will be a tough season for the red devils this season because with their recent performance, it would take them anywhere.
I'm not saying Manchester United's performance was bad when they were beaten by Tottenham. Manchester United were just very unlucky during the game and you have to admit they had a good chance at that. I'm disappointed about the result of the match, but what can you do because sometimes you have to admit defeat because you failed to prevent it.

Manchester United were able to build attacks well, but were unable to score goals due to the defense and also the good performance of the Tottenham goalkeeper. The end result isn't perfect, but I think that's bad luck.

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August 23, 2023, 08:27:32 PM
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In fact Pep will not miss much, he will be back after the international break, it is unlikely that the players will start losing without him, I am sure that he can even remotely manage the squad, give instructions for the match and so on, because there is no problem to pass instructions to the one who is currently at the helm of the team
Yeah, he is going to be back before the resumption of the international breaks in the premier league and other international leagues and much so since their next leg of games I still some time away, The coach has enough time to fully resume duties,  and even if he fails to resume before their next match he still have out in place a foreseeable team that can deliver even in his absence.

But so also the players have to seat up against the perceived small clubs since they have been outperforming the bugger clubs they meet along the way,  so to avoid such those bigger clubs have to make up in some ways to protect themselves against such disgrace.
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Tottenham had a very good performance against Man United. Even playing without Harry Kane, they know what to do.
Expects the best performance from Tottenham Hotspur after winning Manchester united was an easy job for Spurs this season, although no one thought they will become victorious in the match. Harry Kane is a top striker and made his presence counts in the club. We have quite amazing players currently in the team, with the results we are having, it means the club will push far this season. Tottenham Hotspur will do well this new season, perhaps the club suffered enough last season, failing to win a spot in US champions league. The new boss will make sure he enchanced the club pattern and players.
I think the little secrete behind Spurs form this early period is because of Maddison they bought from Leicester,when I heard Maddison was going to Spurs,I just new he was going to really improve the team,because we all know how Madison is good and how he is so useful on the pitch.Him playing behind Richarlison and Son will really make them have that attacking force upfront.Despite the fact that Kane has moved on to another club in Germany,I think with the kind of signings that their new coach has made,they can either qualify for top four,or be in the Europa league next season.I am happy that Spurs are leaving upto expectations now,and are even sending a message to people that were doubting their abilities,that they can do without Kane in the team,and I hope their form continues again next week when they face Bournemouth.

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I think Tottenham have made a good start to the season. Despite losing Kane they are still able to stay quite productive. Collecting 4 points in 2 games is a good work in my opinion. Especially their winning against Manchester United was really unexpected for me honestly. Because I thought Manchester United wouldn't lose.

But Manchester United had serious problems on scoring goals despite having so many goal attempts. Next time Tottenham are playing against Bournemouth away. I think this is a comfortable game for them. I know they drew with Brentford but Bournemouth are a much weaker opponent.
Oh, you know, when I first heard Kane was leaving Tottenham, I thought their attack line would be like a ship without a captain. I was wrong, though. With Son and Richarlison, they've kept their attack pretty clean. I guess Manchester United could learn something from them. It's clear that Manchester United has trouble up front. Rashford and Anthony? They're good, but it feels like putting square pegs into round holes. Even Mount hasn't found his groove under Erik Ten Hag, even though he's trying. Maybe they need someone to take the lead right away. No matter what is going on, Spurs are having a good time right now. I hope they can keep this up against Bournemouth.
You are not alone in this case because most of the peoples were feeling not good about them and having mindset they could be struggled for the top half of the league table, but their performance in first two games completely change the views about their future and their performance right now after watching first two games now I am also feeling most chances they could be better than Newcastle United and Chelsea because their strategy and aggression both are giving them clear advantage and with this pace they can go through for the top six spots as well even this all is too early but things looking much better.

Manchester United and Ten Haq both are going with same old story and things are not looking good for them in coming days if they are not able to bring positive changes because with current performance and strategy most chances they will be down and out of the top four race.

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I wouldn't say Pochettino did a bad job. He is progressing well with Chelsea. Chelsea may not win well in the first two matches. But their performance is not as weak as last season. Their performance is very organized. Pochettino has worked to strengthen the bond between the players. But the problem is that Chelsea's squad is still not strong enough. Chelsea's attack is a bit weak. Pochettino needs to add another experienced striker to the attack. Also Chelsea's biggest problem right now is their defence. They lost badly against West Ham because of poor defence. Chelsea conceded 3 goals. West Ham only had 24% ball possession in this match. They still managed to score three goals. If the defense cannot be strengthened, the expected good performance from Chelsea will not be seen in the upcoming matches.
Are you serious, do you still wish Pochettino asked for a bigger budget to buy more players this season?
Todd Boehly has spent more than 1 billion dollars to build the Chelsea squad, but the results are still zero achievements. Chelsea just need to try harder and build a team out of all the players that have been brought in, but they need time.

Chelsea's performance is still not good in their last two matches, but they have certainly improved. Pochettino will have to put in a lot more effort to shape the mentality and confidence of his players in every game, but it's not an easy job that will have an impact overnight. It will take a long time to get the best form out of Chelsea, even if Chelsea are forced to add more new players to their squad.

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August 23, 2023, 09:01:16 PM
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Manchester United and Ten Haq both are going with same old story and things are not looking good for them in coming days if they are not able to bring positive changes because with current performance and strategy most chances they will be down and out of the top four race.
It would be very sad to see united sack another good coach again due to poor backing from the their owners as well as mismanagement by the board, a team that's playing in the Champions league Tournament should be more focused in bluster their squad to be very strong and competitive but if you watch the style of play of united you'll understand most players are finding it difficult to understand the coaches pattern and are not fit to play for Manchester united and the star players in the team are playing below expectations, the team play like they're not even qualified to compete in the English championship league they look so weak and tired.
 Erik Ten Hag have a very big decision to make to save his career this season, it might take a miracle to that do because they're imbalanced in many areas of the squad and the FFP rules makes it hard for them to sign more players without offloading some and they're currently facing difficulties offloading some players, both club andmanager needs to act fast in handling the situation before the window opens, left for me I think they need another striker, a holding midfielder and probably another centre defender.

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August 23, 2023, 09:02:09 PM
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Are you serious, do you still wish Pochettino asked for a bigger budget to buy more players this season?
Todd Boehly has spent more than 1 billion dollars to build the Chelsea squad, but the results are still zero achievements. Chelsea just need to try harder and build a team out of all the players that have been brought in, but they need time.

Chelsea's performance is still not good in their last two matches, but they have certainly improved. Pochettino will have to put in a lot more effort to shape the mentality and confidence of his players in every game, but it's not an easy job that will have an impact overnight. It will take a long time to get the best form out of Chelsea, even if Chelsea are forced to add more new players to their squad.
Previously, Pochettino could not maximize the players who had been brought in in this transfer window to be able to perform optimally in the two matches they had played. And Pochettino also has some good players in terms of their experience but they were not included in the last two matches. Call it like Lukaku, He is still an official Chelsea player and at least he had good quality last season with Inter Milan but Pochettino did not include Lukaku name for this season.

I also agree with your opinion. That Chelsea has spent quite a lot of money and they should be able to maximize the quality of the players they have brought in, not to ask for a budget and buy new players again. Well if they do again this must be a big joke.

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August 23, 2023, 09:03:24 PM
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Are you serious, do you still wish Pochettino asked for a bigger budget to buy more players this season?
Todd Boehly has spent more than 1 billion dollars to build the Chelsea squad, but the results are still zero achievements. Chelsea just need to try harder and build a team out of all the players that have been brought in, but they need time.
Boehly approved his coaches to buy players with huge budget but have gotten so limited results from those transfers. They will soon have to stop o slow down the spending intensity. As a businessman, he knows what to do when cost does not lead to benefit after a long time.

Chelsea overpent for many players who are not like super star players and are not deserved with such so expensive transfer prices.

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Chelsea's performance is still not good in their last two matches, but they have certainly improved. Pochettino will have to put in a lot more effort to shape the mentality and confidence of his players in every game, but it's not an easy job that will have an impact overnight. It will take a long time to get the best form out of Chelsea, even if Chelsea are forced to add more new players to their squad.
Pochettino just returned to Premier League after a few years and he will need time to familiar with latest changes in the league recent years. Asking him to change Chelsea immediately is too much and pressure but he was hired to do that.

He must improve Chelsea defense and midfield support for defense first as it will be key for Chelsea to avoid losses. If they can avoid losses, their confidence will be maintained and even improved. They have good attacking players who can help them to win matches with good defense behind.

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