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Question: Who will be the champion in 2024/25 season?
Manchester City - 33 (48.5%)
Liverpool - 10 (14.7%)
Arsenal - 21 (30.9%)
Chelsea - 0 (0%)
Manchester United - 3 (4.4%)
Totenham - 0 (0%)
Newcastle - 0 (0%)
Other - 1 (1.5%)
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January 23, 2024, 12:42:00 AM

Manchester City are still one of the best clubs in the season thus far.
If you say Manchester City is still the best, then you have to consider it again because currently Manchester City is in second place and is quite a lot of points behind.
You have to check the words in bold again as there's a huge difference.

Five points behind but with a game in hand doesn't look like "quite a lot". City will be facing Burnley next so that's as good as three points in the bag. It's still not guaranteed of course but you can't really bet against them in that match. KDB playing good while Halaand is also expected to return by end of the month.


Im seeing it from the different perspective. 5 points are a lot when it comes to the competition between the big club. It's caused by the big club can always perform consistently and this makes the situation is hardly to change.
Just like when manchester city was winning EPL last season. Arsenal won since early - mid but city gone up since mid - late. City was winning caused by the consistency of club since middle until the end of season.

It's very hard to predict when the big club will be missing the points. It's caused by the big club is always having the good squad to perform consisently for longterm.
It's hard to guess that when team will able to miss the points. The return of haaland will be another disaster for arsenal and liverpool which are competing at the top for EPL this season.

The combination between haaland x de bruyne make other club scared.

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January 23, 2024, 12:49:50 AM

Manchester City are still one of the best clubs in the season thus far.
If you say Manchester City is still the best, then you have to consider it again because currently Manchester City is in second place and is quite a lot of points behind.
You have to check the words in bold again as there's a huge difference.

Five points behind but with a game in hand doesn't look like "quite a lot". City will be facing Burnley next so that's as good as three points in the bag. It's still not guaranteed of course but you can't really bet against them in that match. KDB playing good while Halaand is also expected to return by end of the month.
Im seeing it from the different perspective. 5 points are a lot when it comes to the competition between the big club. It's caused by the big club can always perform consistently and this makes the situation is hardly to change.
You are missing the important point where I said they also have a game in hand. I would rather call it a 2 point gap at this point since they're almost at full strength and that's not a lot to catch up to. Just one unexpected loss from Liverpool and we may see a change in leaderboard.
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January 23, 2024, 01:04:51 AM

You are missing the important point where I said they also have a game in hand. I would rather call it a 2 point gap at this point since they're almost at full strength and that's not a lot to catch up to. Just one unexpected loss from Liverpool and we may see a change in leaderboard.

I think it's still a bit hard since Liverpool are in advantage and I agree with what you are saying but what if City also loses some points in attempt to cover the gap? It will be all same again. The pressure is too huge for the top teams in the PL table right now. The one who is consistent will be the one winning the season. Liverpool no doubt have maintained better consistency and I feel if they continue to perform like this, then they will for sure will win the title this season.
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January 23, 2024, 01:27:18 AM

I second that, and i have said it a couple of times here already that if City don't win the league for the fourth time in a row, then it will be Liverpool who would beat them to the title. Liverpool and City have gone head to head in a lot of title races in recent years, though City came out on top in most of them, and i think the both of them are going to go at it this season again.

Of course we cannot take Arsenal completely out of the picture, but TBH i also don't think they can finish either above City or Liverpool this season, i would be surprised if that is to happen.
Premier League have 16 matches left with potential many points take by all teams, seems too early for predicting with Manchester City failure become the winner fourth time in a row or possibility with Liverpool for the first time become the winner after last edition on Premier League season 2019/20. Top fourth standings gap points not large difference have chance not only for Manchester City, Liverpool but also there are have Arsenal who fight for Premier League tittle race season 2023/24.

Next month is crucial for top fourth standings teams position, they will have Champion League knock out round and Europe league matches with potential made rotation with their squad will possibilities inconsistency performance in domestic league. Team candidate for winning premier League regarding with consistency performance until the last matchday, right now too early for predicting which one team will be the winner.
The Premier League still has a lot of match left in the second half of the season so the top four clubs still have the opportunity to collection points to fight for the Premier League title, Manchester City is still a tough competitor in the last few seasons, Liverpool and Arsenal are still trying to break Manchester City dominance in winnings the title. However because the race for the Premier League still looks quite hot because the top four clubs have a small difference in points, so we can't predict who will ultimately wins the title.

In February, the three top clubs have a tighter schedule. Manchester City and Arsenal have to compete in the last 16 of the Champions League, while Liverpool will also compete in the last 16 of the European League, but Liverpool schedule has not yet been determined who they will compete with and of course we all don't we want this busy schedule to affect our favorite club and affect its consistency in the domestic league, but the club that is able to maintain its consistency is the one who can come home as a winners.
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January 23, 2024, 01:30:42 AM

Brighton vs Wolverhampton ended in a 0-0 goalless draw.I expected Brighton to score 2-3 goals in this game, but they couldn't capitalize on the positions they found.They certainly played better than Wolverhampton, but they couldn't find a goal and had to settle for a draw in such a tiring game. Brighton probably won't finish 5th in the league but I think they want to at least give it a go.There's a lot of competition between the teams and I don't think anyone can afford to lose any more points.The league is half over and every point lost from now on will be important for them.

 
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You are missing the important point where I said they also have a game in hand. I would rather call it a 2 point gap at this point since they're almost at full strength and that's not a lot to catch up to. Just one unexpected loss from Liverpool and we may see a change in leaderboard.

I think it's still a bit hard since Liverpool are in advantage and I agree with what you are saying but what if City also loses some points in attempt to cover the gap? It will be all same again. The pressure is too huge for the top teams in the PL table right now. The one who is consistent will be the one winning the season. Liverpool no doubt have maintained better consistency and I feel if they continue to perform like this, then they will for sure will win the title this season.
Man City has one match they haven't played yet. And this does give Man City an opportunity to get 3 points. But this is still not a guarantee that Manchester City will win the postponed match. Because we all know that sometimes Man City also loses or draws against weak teams. But there is a big possibility that Man City can collect full points in the postponed match.

But it is true that Liverpool this season is also very strong. Even without Mohamed Salah, we can still see Liverpool winning with a big score in yesterday's match. So there is no doubt that Liverpool is likely to maintain first place for quite a long time.

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January 23, 2024, 02:06:02 AM

They certainly played better than Wolverhampton, but they couldn't find a goal and had to settle for a draw in such a tiring game.
I think that's their problem this season. So many chances yet the conversion rate is so low, plus injuries here and there also worsen their form after a strong start[1]. In most of their matches against teams outside of the big six, they have a lot of xG but arguably low goal numbers. Hard to say what the coach can do other than ask for more players to be honest, their squad depth is just too poor atm imo.

Brighton probably won't finish 5th in the league but I think they want to at least give it a go.There's a lot of competition between the teams and I don't think anyone can afford to lose any more points.The league is half over and every point lost from now on will be important for them.
They should at least win the matches against Luton and Palace this February to keep their top 6 finish alive. Assuming they lost against the rest of the big 6 for the remainder of the season, they should be able to get 20+ points if everything goes their way. There should be a decent chance considering the past few seasons the top 5 to 8 are hovering around 60-70 points. CMIIW.

but Liverpool schedule has not yet been determined who they will compete with and of course we all don't we want this busy schedule to affect our favorite club and affect its consistency in the domestic league, but the club that is able to maintain its consistency is the one who can come home as a winners.
I don't think who they will face in the R16 matters, to be honest. Klopp will likely rotate his players anyway. Assuming most of their players are coming back from injury they should be able to handle both Europe and Premier League just fine. He seems to be perfectly fine with fielding academy players in a cup tie anyway.

You are missing the important point where I said they also have a game in hand. I would rather call it a 2 point gap at this point since they're almost at full strength and that's not a lot to catch up to. Just one unexpected loss from Liverpool and we may see a change in leaderboard.
I guess it goes both ways. One unexpected loss from City and the gap grows again. While City is always consistent in the 2nd half of the season in the last three years or so, they have different players now. It will be interesting to see if Pep can keep it up or switch his playstyle to be more pragmatic to win points in the remainder of the season.

[1] https://fbref.com/en/comps/9/schedule/Premier-League-Scores-and-Fixtures

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Brighton vs Wolverhampton ended in a 0-0 goalless draw.I expected Brighton to score 2-3 goals in this game, but they couldn't capitalize on the positions they found.They certainly played better than Wolverhampton, but they couldn't find a goal and had to settle for a draw in such a tiring game. Brighton probably won't finish 5th in the league but I think they want to at least give it a go.There's a lot of competition between the teams and I don't think anyone can afford to lose any more points.The league is half over and every point lost from now on will be important for them.
We're also in the mid-season of the EPL were we get to watch the top performance these clubs. Brighton & Hove Albion was held to a 0-0 draw against the Wolverhampton who did their best to ensure they didn't concede a goal at Amex stadium.a poor display portrayed by the visitors whereas the hosts was determined for a winning which they were denial due to the heavy defensive strategy exerted by Gary O'Neil. He knows what he wants and how to handle top clubs above his team, this is probably not the first or second time, it's usually a regular routine he indulges in whenever he has a top opposition.
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You are missing the important point where I said they also have a game in hand. I would rather call it a 2 point gap at this point since they're almost at full strength and that's not a lot to catch up to. Just one unexpected loss from Liverpool and we may see a change in leaderboard.

now the point gap between Liverpool and Manchester City is 5 points. although Manchester City still has 1 more match compared to Liverpool. if 1 match that has not been played is able to win, it can only be called a 2 point gap.
So it is likely that the competition for champions will be tight until the end of the season.


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January 23, 2024, 04:09:21 AM

We're also in the mid-season of the EPL were we get to watch the top performance these clubs. Brighton & Hove Albion was held to a 0-0 draw against the Wolverhampton who did their best to ensure they didn't concede a goal at Amex stadium.a poor display portrayed by the visitors whereas the hosts was determined for a winning which they were denial due to the heavy defensive strategy exerted by Gary O'Neil. He knows what he wants and how to handle top clubs above his team, this is probably not the first or second time, it's usually a regular routine he indulges in whenever he has a top opposition.
Many people were expect Wolves can pull the upset because they have good history, but unfortunately the match ended draw even though both of the clubs tried to create a goal. Hee Chan Hwang is off for international duty, if he play for Wolves, he might able to score a goal.


Tomorrow is the moment of truth, Chelsea will face Middlesbrough with an aggregate 0-1 favor on Middlesbrough, but looking at the odds, Chelsea is the heavy favorite in this match. Will the match end in draw too? Middlesbrough only need to play defensive.

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You are missing the important point where I said they also have a game in hand. I would rather call it a 2 point gap at this point since they're almost at full strength and that's not a lot to catch up to. Just one unexpected loss from Liverpool and we may see a change in leaderboard.

now the point gap between Liverpool and Manchester City is 5 points. although Manchester City still has 1 more match compared to Liverpool. if 1 match that has not been played is able to win, it can only be called a 2 point gap.
So it is likely that the competition for champions will be tight until the end of the season.
This season Liverpool have rediscovered their rhythm of play, although it is not yet perfect, but at least Klopp is starting to find chemistry between the players so that the competition to win the EPL trophy is becoming more convincing. However, Manchester City is one of the best teams in the EPL which always sets high targets every season.

Manchester City is likely to cut the gap to just two points. The return of Kevin De Bruyne to the starting

I really hope that the competition in the EPL this season can be tight until the end of the season. Arsenal and Tottenham must also be able to continue to perform well to stick closely to Liverpool and Manchester City at the top of the standings.

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Brighton vs Wolverhampton ended in a 0-0 goalless draw.I expected Brighton to score 2-3 goals in this game, but they couldn't capitalize on the positions they found.They certainly played better than Wolverhampton, but they couldn't find a goal and had to settle for a draw in such a tiring game. Brighton probably won't finish 5th in the league but I think they want to at least give it a go.There's a lot of competition between the teams and I don't think anyone can afford to lose any more points.The league is half over and every point lost from now on will be important for them.

Brighton, who is in 7th place, had to be willing to play with a draw against Wolves, and in the last match, Brighton had to be willing to play with a draw against West Ham. Now Brighton can't achieve maximum points and now Brighton and Manchester United's points are the same, namely 32, but fortunately Brighton still has time to widen the points gap with Manchester United as long as they win the next match against Luton. However, I am sure that Brighton's match against Luton will have great potential for Brighton to win the match.

When Wolves faced Everton, Wolves were very lucky because they were able to get 3 points because they won the match with a score of 3-0, but now Wolves failed to get the maximum points because the draw against Brighton of course meant that Wolves failed to shift Newcastle's position, now points Newcastle and Wolves 29.

Wolves' match against Brighton was really disappointing because no goals were scored. However, this proves that Wolves are very good in their current performance because Brighton is ranked higher than Wolves.

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Premier League have 16 matches left with potential many points take by all teams, seems too early for predicting with Manchester City failure become the winner fourth time in a row or possibility with Liverpool for the first time become the winner after last edition on Premier League season 2019/20. Top fourth standings gap points not large difference have chance not only for Manchester City, Liverpool but also there are have Arsenal who fight for Premier League tittle race season 2023/24.

Next month is crucial for top fourth standings teams position, they will have Champion League knock out round and Europe league matches with potential made rotation with their squad will possibilities inconsistency performance in domestic league. Team candidate for winning premier League regarding with consistency performance until the last matchday, right now too early for predicting which one team will be the winner.
With a busy schedule and each team requiring player rotation, it means the competition is even more interesting to watch. Manchester City has a tier 2 squad that is equal in terms of play so Pep Guardiola can still overcome the busy schedule by adjusting the level of competition  between the UCL and the Premier League. the reason is that these 2 competitions are the most prioritized targets for Manchester City while Liverpool because this season is not in the UCL, might be able to take advantage of the situation a little besides having to continue hunting in the Europa League where their opponents are not comparable to  Manchester City's opponents in the UCL. For Arsenal itself, in my opinion they won't have much hope in the UCL, so Arteta wants to conquer the Premier League first at least to improve last season slipping performance.

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With a busy schedule and each team requiring player rotation, it means the competition is even more interesting to watch. Manchester City has a tier 2 squad that is equal in terms of play so Pep Guardiola can still overcome the busy schedule by adjusting the level of competition  between the UCL and the Premier League. the reason is that these 2 competitions are the most prioritized targets for Manchester City while Liverpool because this season is not in the UCL, might be able to take advantage of the situation a little besides having to continue hunting in the Europa League where their opponents are not comparable to  Manchester City's opponents in the UCL. For Arsenal itself, in my opinion they won't have much hope in the UCL, so Arteta wants to conquer the Premier League first at least to improve last season slipping performance.
I would also prefer if Arteta focused more on his achievements in the Premier League which failed last season. And Arteta must try to make a better strategy and make Arsenal successful this season.
Regarding the second tier of players that Man City has, it is different from the second tier of players that other teams have. For example, now that Haaland is still absent, we can see that Man City's attack line is still functioning well. This is because Pep does have a supply of second tier players who are very reliable. And that's why Man City has always been successful in the last few seasons in the Premier League and even in the UCL last season. Because they can overcome injury problems by replacing injured core players with second-line players whose quality is not much different.

Liverpool both have a busy schedule. It's just that the competition in the European League and UCL is clearly at a different level. So Liverpool might indeed be more comfortable in maintaining their quality in the Premier League. different from Man City and Arsenal who also have to fight in the UCL.

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Brighton vs Wolverhampton ended in a 0-0 goalless draw.I expected Brighton to score 2-3 goals in this game, but they couldn't capitalize on the positions they found.They certainly played better than Wolverhampton, but they couldn't find a goal and had to settle for a draw in such a tiring game. Brighton probably won't finish 5th in the league but I think they want to at least give it a go.There's a lot of competition between the teams and I don't think anyone can afford to lose any more points.The league is half over and every point lost from now on will be important for them.
Brighton haven't been able to attack very well, if they can attack strongly they will probably win against Wolverhampton. All things considered, Brighton had 72% possession but were unable to score. Wolverhampton' goalkeeper made a good save to prevent a successful attack, and the goal remained 0-0 until the last minute. As Brighton are currently at 7th position in the points table, it doesn't look like they will be able to move up to 5th position. If they could have won the match against Wolverhampton, there would have been a chance to finish 5th in the points table, but every team needs to successfully collect points if they want to go well in the league.

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I guess it goes both ways. One unexpected loss from City and the gap grows again. While City is always consistent in the 2nd half of the season in the last three years or so, they have different players now. It will be interesting to see if Pep can keep it up or switch his playstyle to be more pragmatic to win points in the remainder of the season.
Manchester City are very experienced in Premier League and they have many star players to alternate players in second half of season. It gives them more choices than their competitors and is important for them to play better than competitors and collect more points to take the title at the end. In the last six seasons, it happened in 5 seasons and the last season is an example. Arsenal hold the first position in most of season but in very last weeks, they lost it to Manchester City and ended it as a runner up.

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A lot of people will say Liverpool will definitely win and that's what everyone will think cause the last time Arsenal and Liverpool played their previous match Liverpool won but Arsenal dominated, seeing the performance of Arsenal against crystal palace shows Arsenal are fully ready but do they have what it takes to beat Liverpool, I can't predict the future of this match for now. I don't think Liverpool will want to leave the top and they'll do everything in their power to win and Arsenal at the other hand will fight to gain more point so this match will be very tough and interesting to watch.
Liverpool and Arsenal have quality players and they have good managers, too. It is actually a bit difficult to predict which team to win the next match. But if we consider the current performance of both teams, Liverpool looks better than Arsenal. So, it is normal if most people assume Liverpool will win against Arsenal. If we checked the records of Liverpool against Arsenal, Liverpool seems a bit better.

However, we don't know what will happen in the upcoming match. It is purely depending many factors, we just hope that both the teams to play with their full teams. But since the match will be in Arsenal home, Arsenal has an advantage for the supports from the fans.


I think it’s too early to predict who the winner of the EPL title would be. Both Liverpool and Arsenal are having a good season Atm. They both won their previous games scoring more than 3 goals with clean sheets. Liverpool have shown no sign of slowing down now even without their star players. If you look at that team, you would see that Liverpool have enough players to call upon, in the absence of Salah and others. That's the quality of the club.

Honestly I think Liverpool's trip to the Emirates on February 4 to take on Arsenal could be a defining fixture in this season's title race. Manchester City will be watching safe in the knowledge that at least one of their title rivals will be dropping points.
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I would also prefer if Arteta focused more on his achievements in the Premier League which failed last season. And Arteta must try to make a better strategy and make Arsenal successful this season.
Regarding the second tier of players that Man City has, it is different from the second tier of players that other teams have. For example, now that Haaland is still absent, we can see that Man City's attack line is still functioning well. This is because Pep does have a supply of second tier players who are very reliable. And that's why Man City has always been successful in the last few seasons in the Premier League and even in the UCL last season. Because they can overcome injury problems by replacing injured core players with second-line players whose quality is not much different.

Liverpool both have a busy schedule. It's just that the competition in the European League and UCL is clearly at a different level. So Liverpool might indeed be more comfortable in maintaining their quality in the Premier League. different from Man City and Arsenal who also have to fight in the UCL.
Arteta really needs to shift his focus towards achieving success in the Premier League, especially after last season's shortcomings. Improving strategies and overall team performance is crucial for Arsenal's success this season. Manchester City may have better second-tier players that gives the ability of City to maintain a strong attack even in the absence of key players like Haaland. Pep Guardiola's ability to seamlessly integrate second-tier players has been a key factor in City's consistent success in both the Premier League and the UEFA Champions League.

Juggling multiple competitions can indeed impact a team's performance, and Liverpool's experience in managing a busy schedule might give them an advantage in maintaining their quality in the Premier League. Each team faces unique challenges, and success in multiple competitions requires effective squad management, strategic planning, and the ability to adapt to unforeseen circumstances. It will be interesting to see how Arteta addresses Arsenal's challenges and whether they can compete at the highest level this season.

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January 23, 2024, 06:53:15 AM

Man City are favourites and I think most Liverpool fans accept that. We are just enjoying being back in a title race after a poor season in 22/23.

Salah will be back in max one month. We are lucky to have four other attackers who can more than keep us in the race. Luis Diaz, Nunez, Jota and Gakpo will keep us firing, I have no doubt about that. We have the best striker depth in the league, even better than Man City (squad depth).

I think we are stronger than Arsenal, the title is between Liverpool and Man City.

Liverpool is stronger than Arsenal no doubt and i also agree that Liverpool have the best striker depth in the league performance wise because all Liverpool attackers are involved in goal scoring and are very good counter attacking players.

Manchester City being the favorites I wouldn’t agree about that, i thought they were the favorites when the league started but injury hit them and they began to struggle just like every other team, it could be as result of lack of adequate squad depth. They are points away from Liverpool and if they were up against Arsenal i would not give up on them but Kloop is a very stubborn coach to challenge in situations like this so I have all hopes high for Liverpool.

Manchester City are still one of the best clubs in the season thus far. But they still need to score more matches before they can overtake Liverpool. 43 points beneath of the 48 points that Liverpool is carrying at the top of the table standing. The last 6 matches played by them were all wins and no lose at all.
Overtaking Liverpool would mean Liverpool would have to lose their matches and Manchester City winning theirs which is very unlikely to happen, Liverpool are already sighting the trophy from afar so they will be more focused and serious to win it than ever.

 
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January 23, 2024, 07:22:28 AM

Manchester City are still one of the best clubs in the season thus far. But they still need to score more matches before they can overtake Liverpool. 43 points beneath of the 48 points that Liverpool is carrying at the top of the table standing. The last 6 matches played by them were all wins and no lose at all.
Liverpool on the other hand are the top sprinters right now with 48 points ahead. And several points over several people. But the Liverpool is still in need of Salah right now as others may get an edge other that situation.
Manchester City still has one game postponed against Brentford and it looks like it will be difficult for Brentford to beat City so it could be said that City's point difference with Liverpool is only two points and that's a small point difference so anything is possible especially if Liverpool don't maintain their performance but so far Liverpool managed to handle the match well after two draws which were quite detrimental because they lost four points, also Mohammad Salah's absence was still handled well because they managed to get full points without the presence of this key player, Darwin Nunez, who scored a goal in the match against Bournemouth, will try to become a more productive striker so that his team can get full points and become champions of the English Premier League this season. so this will be a tight competition because City also looks like they are starting to perform well when KDB returns to the field.

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