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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 89 (46.1%)
Liverpool - 32 (16.6%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.2%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.6%)
Manchester United - 14 (7.3%)
Totenham - 7 (3.6%)
Newcastle - 2 (1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
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Author Topic: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024  (Read 663420 times)
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January 25, 2024, 03:53:21 PM

The Liverpool game against Arsenal is going to be a big decider to know if Liverpool are actually going to continue to be at the submit of the league. Arsenal put an impressive display in their last game and got a good scoreline. This simply showed that the team is back to their form and they will need to sustain that  form going forward, so for Liverpool to get maximum points in that game looks unlikely because Arsenal need those points as much as Liverpool does.
The encounter will be one-of-a-kind, despite Liverpool's strength, since they came from behind to take the lead. That is why people regard them as a good team, but I am confident that Liverpool will find the match difficult because Arsenal has returned to their usual form after doing so brilliantly in their most recent games. I believe that if they maintain this level of performance, they will be able to progress and achieve their aims against Liverpool.

Furthermore, given Arsenal's current form I expect good results from them. They will not find the match difficult because Arsenal needs more points to overtake Manchester City in second place, and I doubt that Liverpool will get the maximum number of points in the match.

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January 25, 2024, 03:53:44 PM

Even though so far Liverpool's performance has not been affected without Salah, Salah is a player who can provide better attacking power when Liverpool has difficulty breaking down the opposing team's defense. At the moment it doesn't have much of an impact, but Liverpool really needs Salah's presence in the next few tough matches.

Today Klopp played Diaz, Nunez and Gakp as his attacking trio. I know the match against Fulham is not too tough, but the performance of these three players needs to be reviewed ahead of the two tough matches against Chelsea and Arsenal in early February.
Regarding strength when attacking, it cannot be denied that Salah's presence can make it more difficult for opponents to maintain their defense because Salah has the ability to dribble the ball. However, if Salah cannot play then Liverpool have a number of players who can replace him. This is because several previous matches have proven that, without Salah's presence, they still play much more solidly on the front lines. Of course losing Salah in the team will slightly affect Liverpool's attack, but that doesn't mean they have no choice.

These three players did appear extraordinary against Fulham and they tried to carry out quite neat attacks while near the penalty area. Jurgen Klopp knows what to do even though sometimes there are a number of opportunities that players are not able to maximize and that often happens in football.

I actually think that with Muhammad Salah, Liverpool gets a lot of strength. But at the same time without him, Liverpool should not have such a big problem that they won't even be able to continue performing well. It might be a little hard for them to actually adjust for a couple of matches. But life will go on.

Liverpool was able to win against Fulham on aggregate score. They had a 1-1 draw in the second leg. But they did not have much pressure because they were ahead on aggregate score.

I also have to agree that the coach is doing very well with Liverpool.

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January 25, 2024, 04:14:41 PM

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Regarding strength when attacking, it cannot be denied that Salah's presence can make it more difficult for opponents to maintain their defense because Salah has the ability to dribble the ball. However, if Salah cannot play then Liverpool have a number of players who can replace him. This is because several previous matches have proven that, without Salah's presence, they still play much more solidly on the front lines. Of course losing Salah in the team will slightly affect Liverpool's attack, but that doesn't mean they have no choice.

These three players did appear extraordinary against Fulham and they tried to carry out quite neat attacks while near the penalty area. Jurgen Klopp knows what to do even though sometimes there are a number of opportunities that players are not able to maximize and that often happens in football.
I'm not saying Liverpool can't play well without Salah, but with Salah, Liverpool will certainly be better able to maximize their attack patterns. Salah is an icon for Liverpool so far, so when the team plays without his presence there is something different.

The strength of Liverpool's attack line will not be completely good without Salah, especially in tough matches Salah is really needed. I know Nunez, Diaz and Gakpo can play well, but Salah is a player who can bring a lot of change to Liverpool's attacking game. Just like De Bruyne at Manchester City, Salah is very important in Liverpool's attack line every season. The games against Chelsea and Arsenal are tough games, so we'll see if Liverpool are as good without Salah in those two games.

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January 25, 2024, 04:22:36 PM

After the recent dominant 5-0 win against crystal palace, Arsenal seems very confident for a good comeback against forest which will surely effect the mindset they are in for the game against liverpool, Easy 6 points and back to the table top  Wink
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January 25, 2024, 04:26:42 PM

Fulham vs Liverpool played well in EFL cup 1st leg and the two teams were drawn, for which both teams were evenly matched. However, coming to the 2nd leg, we saw an amazing game between the two teams, we attacked until the last moment and Liverpool team secured the final match with victory. Anyway, Liverpool are a strong team and they have not snatched victory from the opposition after a great arrival to the final match but they must play well against Chelsea in the final match. The Chelsea team we saw lost in the first leg against Middleburg but had a great win in the 2nd leg where they managed to win by six goals. Chelsea is a great team they can change their game at any time and they have a lot of good stars so they are very strong at the moment. Anyway, two teams have gone to the finals, Liverpool and Chelsea, these two teams are strong in the current season and it is difficult to predict which team will win the final match, the two teams are strong enough so it is not easy to predict.

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January 25, 2024, 04:29:53 PM

Nottingham Forest vs Arsenal, that will be the opening match in Week 22 of the Premier League. On paper we don't need to doubt that Arsenal has a great chance of winning this mtch, but the problem is that a match cannot be determined by the advantages of a club before they play, that will also apply to Arsenal. Still, what determines who will win is when the match takes place, which club can play beter, then they have a big chance of winning.
However, with the condition of the opponents that Arsenal will face, it would be a shame if they could not take advantage of this match to achieve victory. Because after all, Nottingham Forest didn't have a good performance, while Arsenal, on the other hand, even though they didn't play well in some matches.

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January 25, 2024, 04:33:45 PM

I'm not saying Liverpool can't play well without Salah, but with Salah, Liverpool will certainly be better able to maximize their attack patterns. Salah is an icon for Liverpool so far, so when the team plays without his presence there is something different.

The strength of Liverpool's attack line will not be completely good without Salah, especially in tough matches Salah is really needed. I know Nunez, Diaz and Gakpo can play well, but Salah is a player who can bring a lot of change to Liverpool's attacking game.  
With Salah's absence, Liverpool has still not lost a game. There is a hot player and finisher for the club that is filling well into the shoes of Salah, Diogo Jota who has scored goals for Liverpool. He is fast and very good on the ball, his goal scoring ability may be the advantage for Liverpool because even when he does not play a full game, he can come in, play a few minutes and still deliver the results expected from him. On the other side, Chelsea are also now scoring with the chances they create, so there is much chance that Liverpool goalkeeper will also be tested a lot.
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January 25, 2024, 04:40:11 PM

Every team that wants to achieve something must show a reaction after several defeats. Arsenal still ranks 3rd in the Premier League standings.
Lately Arsenal has proven that they are ready to come back to there good performance because checking there position on the premier League and there pattern of play you will agree with me that Arsenal is back on there feet to compete for the league champion.
Arsenal 5-0  thrashing of Crystal Palace cannot be used to validate their return to their winning ways until they win three to four consecutive matches before I can agreed that they are back in title challenge, though the team always play well both in term of ball possessions and plenty shot on goal unfortunately lack ability to convert those chances to goal only if Arteta can address that issue of lack of converting those chances to goals then that is another yardstick to be used so as to be considered  for the title, meanwhile the team next three fixtures are very crucial for the team to continue with the title challenge they would play Nothingham Forest, Liverpool and West Ham respectively these are tough matches though winnable.

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January 25, 2024, 05:01:54 PM

After the recent dominant 5-0 win against crystal palace, Arsenal seems very confident for a good comeback against forest which will surely effect the mindset they are in for the game against liverpool, Easy 6 points and back to the table top  Wink
Such a win is enough to increase the confidence of any team because the score line is much that it means such win wasn't by accident or a team been lucky but rather show for a good performance and a good team strength which means they were intentional and did gave the best of their performance and they are still in a good form.

Against Liverpool Arsenal shouldn't be expecting it will be as easy as it was against crystal palace that they got five goals and three points rather they will definitely have a tough game because Liverpool is a bigger team and tougher team which has a better form and depth as compared to crystal palace who have a relatively weak team when compared to that which Arsenal has. I wouldn't be Hasty to conclude on the results of the game but I will rather watch and hope the best team wins.

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January 25, 2024, 05:02:50 PM

Lol, it will be completely different games, and i am certain you know that. I think Liverpool have more motivation to win the EPL tie, that is because they are in the title race, and Chelsea are not. Having said that, the Carabao cup is Chelsea's only opportunity to win a title, so they might give it their all, and be lucky to win it, meanwhile i truly believe Liverpool has a chance to win the CL and the Europa league, so their options isn't as limited as Chelsea's.
Chelsea big chance to get a trophy this season is of course in the Carabao final because in terms of their performance in the Premier League, Chelsea certainly didn't appear impressive this season and if they don't fight in the Carabao final, of course they won't have another chance to win a trophy. For Liverpool, of course they have a bigger chance of winning several trophies this season, especially in the Premier League, European League and also the Carabao final, so if Liverpool fail in the Carabao final they still have two more chances to win trophy.

The Carabao final will be held at Wembley Stadium next month on the 25th. Both teams still have the same chance of winning the Carabao Cup trophy and previously the final match was still quite long so we hope that none of the star players from these two teams will suffer injuries that will hinder them competed in the carabao final. I hope both teams can play all their core players because it will be quite interesting to see these two teams fight fiercely in the final match.

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January 25, 2024, 05:09:02 PM

Without Salah, Liverpool still advanced straight to the Carabao Cup final against Chelsea. The Kop have reached the final match of the Carabao Cup for the 14th time, at least four times more than any other team in the entire history of the tournament. They are also the most successful club in the Carabao Cup, with 9 cup wins. They are facing the opportunity to increase their achievement to 10 when they are only 1 match away from the title. The opportunity to win four, including the FA Cup, League Cup, Europa League, and Premier League, continues to be open to coach Jurgen Klopp and his team. Will this season, a more pragmatic and practical Klopp's Liverpool achieve the achievement of winning many crowns?
Its not really good result for Liverpool without Mohamad Salah, first match in Premier League Liverpool won bigger score without Salah over 4-0 but second matches in EFL Cup semifinal they have got draw. But advantage for Liverpool won on first leg match and qualify to final match against Chelsea after winning aggregate 2-1.
Seems Mohamad Salah will absent for several weeks later after latest confirmation from Jurgen Klopp Salah got serious injury with his national teams, Liverpool has many crucial match next month not only in premier league but also have to play in Europe League and without Salah will make them loss bigger opportunity for winning all matches left.
Liverpool's performance without Salah worries me. As a vital player, his absence is felt. However, this team has caught my attention. They're tenacious and a winner. Remember beating Arsenal without Salah? They were strong as a team, not just one star player.
There's no need to feel worry about that. Liverpool is just doing better compared to the a few months ago. Salah's injury was not that serious and he will absence for at least 4 weeks. He will be back later and why shall we worry about that? Liverpool was strong as a team but having salah to play in the squad was making the club even better. Don't you remember when salah saves liverpool many times from the lost? It has proven that salah has a big role for liverpool and this is also the main reason klopp was not wiling to sell him.

Not having him in the forthcoming matches is concerning. Liverpool's Premier League and Europa League schedule is challenging. Their test is coming. Klopp and the team have my trust. They consistently meet challenges. Although they lack Salah, they have depth and quality. How they'll handle these critical matches intrigues me. The team's morale will also benefit when Salah returns.
Im not seeing it as a serious problem for liverpool as long as klopp will still use the same line up. Some matches against the club like chelsea is quite challenging and liverpool must have kept to get three points or manchester city will able to surpass it soon.
The club needs to perform beyond its limit. Liverpool needs to put all of its focus in to the EPL. The competition is just even stricter after de bruyne back to the main starter line up of manchester city.

The competition in EPL becomes even more interesting than before. Im quite happy seeing the performance from city and liverpool.

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I'm not saying Liverpool can't play well without Salah, but with Salah, Liverpool will certainly be better able to maximize their attack patterns. Salah is an icon for Liverpool so far, so when the team plays without his presence there is something different.

The strength of Liverpool's attack line will not be completely good without Salah, especially in tough matches Salah is really needed. I know Nunez, Diaz and Gakpo can play well, but Salah is a player who can bring a lot of change to Liverpool's attacking game.  
With Salah's absence, Liverpool has still not lost a game. There is a hot player and finisher for the club that is filling well into the shoes of Salah, Diogo Jota who has scored goals for Liverpool. He is fast and very good on the ball, his goal scoring ability may be the advantage for Liverpool because even when he does not play a full game, he can come in, play a few minutes and still deliver the results expected from him. On the other side, Chelsea are also now scoring with the chances they create, so there is much chance that Liverpool goalkeeper will also be tested a lot.
Well I believe in Liverpool this season because of the way the club ha e managed to win majority of their matches in this season and thos reminds me of the club performance in the 2020-2021 season which sees to the club almost lifting the title in that season and that was an excellent one in the general context of things if Salah absence haven't affected the club up till this point it shows how prepared the club is till this moment.

Some of the players currently on the club have played a very vital role but even at that, Liverpool will have to seat up with the way the handle their coming matches because alot is going to be changing for the club with the way and line up that are ahead in this round of the league, and if care is not taken Liverpool is going to be having a hard season ahead.



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Every team that wants to achieve something must show a reaction after several defeats. Arsenal still ranks 3rd in the Premier League standings.
Lately Arsenal has proven that they are ready to come back to there good performance because checking there position on the premier League and there pattern of play you will agree with me that Arsenal is back on there feet to compete for the league champion.
Arsenal 5-0  thrashing of Crystal Palace cannot be used to validate their return to their winning ways until they win three to four consecutive matches before I can agreed that they are back in title challenge, though the team always play well both in term of ball possessions and plenty shot on goal unfortunately lack ability to convert those chances to goal only if Arteta can address that issue of lack of converting those chances to goals then that is another yardstick to be used so as to be considered  for the title, meanwhile the team next three fixtures are very crucial for the team to continue with the title challenge they would play Nothingham Forest, Liverpool and West Ham respectively these are tough matches though winnable.

The Arsenal team had an excellent 5-0 win against Crystal Palace. There is no doubt that they played very well. But it cannot be said for sure if Arsenal are back on the truck. Arsenal's players have consistently underperformed in the last few matches.
Arsenal will play their next match against Nottingham Forest. And will play against Liverpool in the next match. If Arsenal can win against Liverpool, then maybe Arsenal will be able to occupy the top position of the points table again. But if Arsenal lose against Liverpool, I guess we'll only see City and Liverpool fight for the title this season.

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January 25, 2024, 05:18:36 PM

I'm not saying Liverpool can't play well without Salah, but with Salah, Liverpool will certainly be better able to maximize their attack patterns. Salah is an icon for Liverpool so far, so when the team plays without his presence there is something different.

The strength of Liverpool's attack line will not be completely good without Salah, especially in tough matches Salah is really needed. I know Nunez, Diaz and Gakpo can play well, but Salah is a player who can bring a lot of change to Liverpool's attacking game.  
With Salah's absence, Liverpool has still not lost a game. There is a hot player and finisher for the club that is filling well into the shoes of Salah, Diogo Jota who has scored goals for Liverpool. He is fast and very good on the ball, his goal scoring ability may be the advantage for Liverpool because even when he does not play a full game, he can come in, play a few minutes and still deliver the results expected from him. On the other side, Chelsea are also now scoring with the chances they create, so there is much chance that Liverpool goalkeeper will also be tested a lot.
It's good that kloop has back up for his replacement because like you said Mohammed Salah is one player that any club would not love missing in their club and I know Liverpool will also think so. Manchester city were currently suffering from Kevin de byrune absence and we all saw it was hard for them to meet up with winning games everyday. I don't how they will manage if jota turn to cease his form and I just hope jota will continue to fill his space till he is back so that they will be deeply active in the title.

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Without Salah, Liverpool still advanced straight to the Carabao Cup final against Chelsea. The Kop have reached the final match of the Carabao Cup for the 14th time, at least four times more than any other team in the entire history of the tournament. They are also the most successful club in the Carabao Cup, with 9 cup wins. They are facing the opportunity to increase their achievement to 10 when they are only 1 match away from the title. The opportunity to win four, including the FA Cup, League Cup, Europa League, and Premier League, continues to be open to coach Jurgen Klopp and his team. Will this season, a more pragmatic and practical Klopp's Liverpool achieve the achievement of winning many crowns?
Its not really good result for Liverpool without Mohamad Salah, first match in Premier League Liverpool won bigger score without Salah over 4-0 but second matches in EFL Cup semifinal they have got draw. But advantage for Liverpool won on first leg match and qualify to final match against Chelsea after winning aggregate 2-1.
Seems Mohamad Salah will absent for several weeks later after latest confirmation from Jurgen Klopp Salah got serious injury with his national teams, Liverpool has many crucial match next month not only in premier league but also have to play in Europe League and without Salah will make them loss bigger opportunity for winning all matches left.
Liverpool's performance without Salah worries me. As a vital player, his absence is felt. However, this team has caught my attention. They're tenacious and a winner. Remember beating Arsenal without Salah? They were strong as a team, not just one star player.
There's no need to feel worry about that. Liverpool is just doing better compared to the a few months ago. Salah's injury was not that serious and he will absence for at least 4 weeks. He will be back later and why shall we worry about that? Liverpool was strong as a team but having salah to play in the squad was making the club even better. Don't you remember when salah saves liverpool many times from the lost? It has proven that salah has a big role for liverpool and this is also the main reason klopp was not wiling to sell him.

Not having him in the forthcoming matches is concerning. Liverpool's Premier League and Europa League schedule is challenging. Their test is coming. Klopp and the team have my trust. They consistently meet challenges. Although they lack Salah, they have depth and quality. How they'll handle these critical matches intrigues me. The team's morale will also benefit when Salah returns.
Im not seeing it as a serious problem for liverpool as long as klopp will still use the same line up.
I understand perfectly well what you are trying to say, but you need to know that in bigger games like this, they need bigger player, for the bigger occasion. No team in premier league that will lose a player in the qaulity of Salah and wouldn't feel his absence,  so the match against Chelsea will really be a though match because in as much as how Chelsea have been performing badly, they hardly lose to Liverpool, it always end in a draw. The last time they met in a final like this they where separated by penalty shoot out, so this carabao cup final can still be won by either side, because they have the ability to beat each other.

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Every team that wants to achieve something must show a reaction after several defeats. Arsenal still ranks 3rd in the Premier League standings.
Lately Arsenal has proven that they are ready to come back to there good performance because checking there position on the premier League and there pattern of play you will agree with me that Arsenal is back on there feet to compete for the league champion.
Arsenal 5-0  thrashing of Crystal Palace cannot be used to validate their return to their winning ways until they win three to four consecutive matches before I can agreed that they are back in title challenge, though the team always play well both in term of ball possessions and plenty shot on goal unfortunately lack ability to convert those chances to goal only if Arteta can address that issue of lack of converting those chances to goals then that is another yardstick to be used so as to be considered  for the title, meanwhile the team next three fixtures are very crucial for the team to continue with the title challenge they would play Nothingham Forest, Liverpool and West Ham respectively these are tough matches though winnable.

But indeed, with such a big 5-0 victory, it can at least boost their morale to keep getting better . Because after all,currently Manchester City, Arsenal and Aston Villa still have the same points with 43 points . Thus, then of course they still have a chance to be able to compete strongly in the race for the Premier League title this season. Therefore,at least we also cannot only say about improving performance only for Arsenal because after all, the competition in the top four at this time is also still fairly difficult and every team in the top four still has the same chance.

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January 25, 2024, 05:28:30 PM

This match will probably be quite a difficult match even for Liverpool. Because in this match Arsenal was the host. And looking at Arsenal's performance in the last match, it also shows a quite drastic increase in performance. And this could make Liverpool difficult and maybe this match will be a difficult match. or it could be that lots of goals will be scored because of course both teams will both display attacking strategies. The match will definitely be quite exciting and the aggressiveness of both teams will probably be quite high.
Liverpool will face two tough matches for the next match because before facing Arsenal, Liverpool will first face Chelsea at Anfield so that there will be many preparations that must be done by Jurgen Klopp. Although Chelsea are not in good condition, Liverpool must be aware of all possibilities that will occur and if the match ends in a draw, Man City will be very beneficial because the difference in points will be closer especially if Liverpool have to experience defeat.

For Arsenal the match will be quite important besides playing in their own homes, Arsenal are also required to win the match in order to keep the opportunity to continue to be in the title competition. Arteta will definitely try to use home games to get full points because it is the best opportunity they have.

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January 25, 2024, 05:37:43 PM

Since Mohammed salah will not be playing the match Arsenal has a better chance of wining the match because lately Arsenal seem to have realized there mistakes and they have been improving seriously, and also for Liverpool to have draw there match against Fulham I think Arsenal is going to win them.
You can’t be so certain of Arsenal winning

Arsenal winning will depend on the performance of Liverpool defense in my opinion, Arsenal merely showed they are recovering from a bad form and we hope they keep it consistent but with Arsenal’s performance especially in their attacking department I don’t think they will find it difficult penetrate Liverpool defense easily. Liverpool have a solid central back with Konate sitting at that back and their previous match together proved Arsenal’s attack are not in form to easily penetrate them.

The match will be an interesting match as always and a very tight one making it difficult to predict a winner. Mo Salah’s absence is a huge blow for Liverpool and he will definitely be missed in the game. Arsenal have the upper hand to win if they make use of the advantage of Salah missing out but at the same time Liverpool cannot be underestimated even with the absence of Salah.

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January 25, 2024, 05:41:24 PM

Every team that wants to achieve something must show a reaction after several defeats. Arsenal still ranks 3rd in the Premier League standings.
Lately Arsenal has proven that they are ready to come back to there good performance because checking there position on the premier League and there pattern of play you will agree with me that Arsenal is back on there feet to compete for the league champion.
Arsenal 5-0  thrashing of Crystal Palace cannot be used to validate their return to their winning ways until they win three to four consecutive matches before I can agreed that they are back in title challenge, though the team always play well both in term of ball possessions and plenty shot on goal unfortunately lack ability to convert those chances to goal only if Arteta can address that issue of lack of converting those chances to goals then that is another yardstick to be used so as to be considered  for the title, meanwhile the team next three fixtures are very crucial for the team to continue with the title challenge they would play Nothingham Forest, Liverpool and West Ham respectively these are tough matches though winnable.

But indeed, with such a big 5-0 victory, it can at least boost their morale to keep getting better . Because after all,currently Manchester City, Arsenal and Aston Villa still have the same points with 43 points . Thus, then of course they still have a chance to be able to compete strongly in the race for the Premier League title this season. Therefore,at least we also cannot only say about improving performance only for Arsenal because after all, the competition in the top four at this time is also still fairly difficult and every team in the top four still has the same chance.
The battle of the top four this season is really something else because the number of teams competing for the top four and the teams we taught were average teams are no longer average and it's almost like their is little team again in the premier league. Arsenal always start the season strong but always at the long run of the season they tend to flop and struggle and this has been their problem.

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January 25, 2024, 05:58:23 PM

Chelsea big chance to get a trophy this season is of course in the Carabao final because in terms of their performance in the Premier League, Chelsea certainly didn't appear impressive this season and if they don't fight in the Carabao final, of course they won't have another chance to win a trophy. For Liverpool, of course they have a bigger chance of winning several trophies this season, especially in the Premier League, European League and also the Carabao final, so if Liverpool fail in the Carabao final they still have two more chances to win trophy.

The Carabao final will be held at Wembley Stadium next month on the 25th. Both teams still have the same chance of winning the Carabao Cup trophy and previously the final match was still quite long so we hope that none of the star players from these two teams will suffer injuries that will hinder them competed in the carabao final. I hope both teams can play all their core players because it will be quite interesting to see these two teams fight fiercely in the final match.
This is an uncommon opportunity for Chelsea to qualify for the Europa Conference League play-off round. From the current position of the club, it will be difficult for them to make it to Europe unless they keep winning games to climb the EPL table. Liverpool is in a good position and has the chance of featuring in the Champions League, so I will assume that it is Chelsae who needs this win more than Liverpool. And I suppose they will put in the right energy to win this important game. With quality of players Chelsea has, not playing in Europe next season might be very discouraging.

The Twenty-fifth of February is still far because anything can still happen. The performance of these teams might change before that time due to injuries or other negative uncertainties. But predicting the game from their present performance, I don't think the Blues will be able to stand the quality of Liverpool. The match will be very entertaining because both teams have the quality but the tactical prowess of both coaches will also contribute to the success or failure of these teams.       

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