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Well, that s life. Sometimes I wish I am less risk averse.
Not many people would call putting money in a hyip risk adverse. Been listening to that story since the day one. Yet, I keep making money since the day one. Reached full 176% ROI 4 weeks ago, withdrew principal and reinvested some of my profits. Unfortunately, I invested just a small amount. However, I have a friend who invested $11k and will reach 171% ROI in a few days, most of it he has already received. Have another friend who invested $20k and will reach similar ROI end of this month. If they are a HYIP, they are really strange HYIP, the one which lets people reach full ROI, profit, withdraw and then reinvest only house money. This all goes on almost 10 months. Never heard of something like that.
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August 14, 2014, 05:32:32 PM |
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I invest there and yes, they are paying , but i invest there as invest in hyip, rule 1 : dont invest more than you can afford to lose
Smart advice, I have stated this in my first post. However, 5 months later, I can only wish I d invested more, much more. Results orientated thinking. You could have made more or lost it all dont beat yourself up about it ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Well, that s life. Sometimes I wish I am less risk averse. you are right to be cautious, you could lose everything at any moment trusting your cash with 3rd party
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August 14, 2014, 07:08:36 PM |
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Been listening to that story since the day one. Yet, I keep making money since the day one. Reached full 176% ROI 4 weeks ago, withdrew principal and reinvested some of my profits. Unfortunately, I invested just a small amount. However, I have a friend who invested $11k and will reach 171% ROI in a few days, most of it he has already received. Have another friend who invested $20k and will reach similar ROI end of this month. If they are a HYIP, they are really strange HYIP, the one which lets people reach full ROI, profit, withdraw and then reinvest only house money. This all goes on almost 10 months. Never heard of something like that.
Of course there are people who can profit off of a hyip, doesn't mean everyone does. I would rather not go into the pointless debate about their legitimacy, it's been done over and over. Just pointing out that if you are investing into something that pays 0.75%-1.25% per day, there has to be a lot of risk involved. Investing in something paying those returns does not make you risk adverse.
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August 15, 2014, 03:30:56 PM |
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Another Bitcoin trader sponsorship, Bitfilm Festival 2014 powered by Bitcoin Trader. The 14th edition of the Bitfilm Festival will focus on films about Bitcoin. This is a great way to promote BTC and help gain more acceptance. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FulWilAn.jpg&t=665&c=Uwwd95HwmpAEkg)
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August 15, 2014, 04:08:16 PM |
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Well, that s life. Sometimes I wish I am less risk averse.
Not many people would call putting money in a hyip risk adverse. Been listening to that story since the day one. Yet, I keep making money since the day one. Reached full 176% ROI 4 weeks ago, withdrew principal and reinvested some of my profits. Unfortunately, I invested just a small amount. However, I have a friend who invested $11k and will reach 171% ROI in a few days, most of it he has already received. Have another friend who invested $20k and will reach similar ROI end of this month. If they are a HYIP, they are really strange HYIP, the one which lets people reach full ROI, profit, withdraw and then reinvest only house money. This all goes on almost 10 months. Never heard of something like that. Actually that's what most of them do.. 1% daily is impossible. Paying out and paying out is how they all work.. Then one day they have $30,000,000 and no longer need to pay out. If it were possible to make 1% daily, the worlds billionaires would literately be the only ones to own money. Bill Gates has 60 billion, why isn't it going up 1% every day?
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August 17, 2014, 03:29:29 AM |
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No audit = High possibility of a scam....
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August 17, 2014, 07:00:22 AM |
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No audit = High possibility of a scam....
You ve said the same for registration. Now they provided the proof of registration. Audit details will be posted end of this month. Really, do you know any other cloud mining/BTC related invested scheme that promises audit to its customers?? Nobody asked them to do so, they promised to that on their own. Let me be clear, there is always risk investing online, especially BTC, but with all these sponsorship events, additional information provided and even a very detailed analysis here in this thread, they seem OK so far, at least IMO.
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August 17, 2014, 10:54:54 PM |
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I've heard quite a bit about Bitcoin Trader but I haven't jumped in yet. If they do release an audit then I will join for sure.
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August 18, 2014, 04:28:31 AM |
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I've heard quite a bit about Bitcoin Trader but I haven't jumped in yet. If they do release an audit then I will join for sure.
Sure, follow the thread, if they do, I ll post it here. We should have info in a few days.
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August 18, 2014, 04:54:44 AM |
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Bitcoin trader has reached another milestone, 9 months online, no issues so far. Cumulative results for July 2014 is +19.1% This first month of the third round of shares maturity has also been completed.
haha I got better result ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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August 18, 2014, 07:33:39 AM |
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Bitcoin trader has reached another milestone, 9 months online, no issues so far. Cumulative results for July 2014 is +19.1% This first month of the third round of shares maturity has also been completed.
haha I got better result ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) State your number, what did you get?
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August 18, 2014, 09:06:26 AM |
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Bitcoin trader has reached another milestone, 9 months online, no issues so far. Cumulative results for July 2014 is +19.1% This first month of the third round of shares maturity has also been completed.
haha I got better result ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) State your number, what did you get? lol, look at his name crazyivan. He is longshort the newest troll on bitcointalk.
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August 18, 2014, 11:25:22 AM |
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Bitcoin trader has reached another milestone, 9 months online, no issues so far. Cumulative results for July 2014 is +19.1% This first month of the third round of shares maturity has also been completed.
haha I got better result ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) State your number, what did you get? I got over 24%, but im not using arbitrage)) i have hft bot
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August 18, 2014, 07:13:11 PM |
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This recent volatility seems to bring great results. August 18, 2014 trading result:+0.89%
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August 20, 2014, 02:42:20 PM |
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I've heard quite a bit about Bitcoin Trader but I haven't jumped in yet. If they do release an audit then I will join for sure.
I use them for a couple of months, should have my first shares matured next month. Very happy so far, hope to stay happy.
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August 21, 2014, 08:22:24 PM |
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Well, that s life. Sometimes I wish I am less risk averse.
Not many people would call putting money in a hyip risk adverse. Been listening to that story since the day one. Yet, I keep making money since the day one. Reached full 176% ROI 4 weeks ago, withdrew principal and reinvested some of my profits. Unfortunately, I invested just a small amount. However, I have a friend who invested $11k and will reach 171% ROI in a few days, most of it he has already received. Have another friend who invested $20k and will reach similar ROI end of this month. If they are a HYIP, they are really strange HYIP, the one which lets people reach full ROI, profit, withdraw and then reinvest only house money. This all goes on almost 10 months. Never heard of something like that. A friend of mine has had his $11k principal matured and returned back to him. 171% ROI after 4 months. Great work Mr.J.
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August 22, 2014, 04:53:27 AM |
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Well, that s life. Sometimes I wish I am less risk averse.
Not many people would call putting money in a hyip risk adverse. Been listening to that story since the day one. Yet, I keep making money since the day one. Reached full 176% ROI 4 weeks ago, withdrew principal and reinvested some of my profits. Unfortunately, I invested just a small amount. However, I have a friend who invested $11k and will reach 171% ROI in a few days, most of it he has already received. Have another friend who invested $20k and will reach similar ROI end of this month. If they are a HYIP, they are really strange HYIP, the one which lets people reach full ROI, profit, withdraw and then reinvest only house money. This all goes on almost 10 months. Never heard of something like that. A friend of mine has had his $11k principal matured and returned back to him. 171% ROI after 4 months. Great work Mr.J. back in the dayz when bitcoins were crashing, i got 172% in 2 weeks and it wasn't arbitrage, it was my first version of trading robot, which traded on the reversals))))
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August 22, 2014, 07:31:42 PM |
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Oh yes, two great days in a row.
August 21, 2014: +0.91% August 22, 2014: +0.85%
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August 23, 2014, 06:16:36 AM |
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I don't have any investment in bitcoin-trader.biz. Still I'm amazed at how little creativity detractors show. For example, it is easy to have revolving lines of credit for fiat. There are also multiple ways of moving fait and you can even move by using other cryto currencies. There are fees and spreads that cut into the profit, but that isn't as much an issue if you can trade a multiple of your funds in a day. It is also possible for prices between exchanges to narrow or reverse in a day.
On creativity: What about the myriad ways a hypothetical arbitrageur could leverage his or her trading? *Reinvesting some of their steady, fabulous profit until arbitrage opportunity has diminishing returns (no cost!) *Bank loan, home loan refinance, etc. (~5%) *Equity investors/partners (could be quite low and risk-free to arbitrageur) *Credit card cash advance (~20%) *Loan shark (~40%) *Payday loan (~200%) *Paying dozens of people 0.5-3% everyday and updating their balances appropriately (~620-3000%) Not only is the last option the most expensive, it's the most labor-intensive. Literally the only reason someone would do that is if they want the ability to take the money and run.
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August 23, 2014, 07:00:48 AM |
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I don't have any investment in bitcoin-trader.biz. Still I'm amazed at how little creativity detractors show. For example, it is easy to have revolving lines of credit for fiat. There are also multiple ways of moving fait and you can even move by using other cryto currencies. There are fees and spreads that cut into the profit, but that isn't as much an issue if you can trade a multiple of your funds in a day. It is also possible for prices between exchanges to narrow or reverse in a day.
On creativity: What about the myriad ways a hypothetical arbitrageur could leverage his or her trading? *Reinvesting some of their steady, fabulous profit until arbitrage opportunity has diminishing returns (no cost!) *Bank loan, home loan refinance, etc. (~5%) *Equity investors/partners (could be quite low and risk-free to arbitrageur) *Credit card cash advance (~20%) *Loan shark (~40%) *Payday loan (~200%) *Paying dozens of people 0.5-3% everyday and updating their balances appropriately (~620-3000%) Not only is the last option the most expensive, it's the most labor-intensive. Literally the only reason someone would do that is if they want the ability to take the money and run. Indeed. And also: If you walk up to any venture capitalist or other investment firm and can prove to them that you have a way to make 0.5-3% per day risk-free (which is what BT claims), they'll be falling over eachother to give you their money. You wouldn't need to bother with making a website with account-management, keep an entire support team on payroll and bother with questions and complaints from people with $50 investments. Furthermore, you could definitely negotiate better terms when it comes to your own cut of the profits and the lock-in time of the investment. If BTs activities are real, then their way of collecting money is incredibly inefficient and simply wasting a ton of potential profit for them.
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