[UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Merge Mine w/BTC! - Update NOW to qt 0.11.5

[IanRidgwell]

Have had several discussions with Mark on the topic of 'niche coins'.

Crypto currencies have so much potential I can't see a reason not to see them being used for all sorts of every day scenarios.

My kids need pocket money, but I don't want them spending it on shite.

I create 'kidspocketmoneycoin'. Mine it on my home pc and keep the blockchain synched on mine and their machines. My machines(plural) will maintain my centralised control of the network but they will be free to fritter and bargain their pocketmoneycoin with each other and myself as they see fit.

I can exchange one pocketmoneycoin for anything - weekend at friends, lollies, a freebie on chores, or I can use my centralised funds to reward them for extra effort or good grades.

At some point those coins can be cashed out surely, but the strength of my family unit and overall financial position defines what the coins are worth. It may even get my kids understanding that by not spending all our money on endless crap we can all have a little more money and a little more fiscal strength.

Crypto currencies may well be ubiquitous to modern living.

[BitcoinNational]

@Youghoor
Agree slowly draw attention ... but if people start checking the charts   !!! (see below)

@Ian

We can't even begin to imagine what crypto can do.  And will do.  The genie is out.  Copy&Paste.

NETWORKS
1. Your Family Network ... mom&pop centralized control kid money
(for chores & Dad can have fun with the spreadsheet data) ... the kids could even spend it any where (the bitpays and your market 'bid' will cover the real store $cost)

2.0 Town Network ... cityhall budgets in microscopic real time details ... the Town coin can float as local money used to pay for city services.
2.1 Factory Network ... same ...  microscopic real time details ... pay check everyday.

3. Globalwide Decentralized Networks  ... UNO is in the Top10 strongest on the planet ... stronger than Doge-Litecoin.  

These GDNs called:
BTC, LTC, Darkcoin, Max, Blake  (specialized hash circuits required = ASICS, GPA) .. POW
NXT, Paycoin, Prime, Monero (server racks but scalable down to 3 PCs networked together) .. Stakes
Peer, Myraid ... hybrids, multi pow

Look what's happening .... LTC is quickly becoming all scrypt coins (VIA, doge, taco).  Then you have NXT superNet.  xcBLOCKnet.  Any pool of hash power doesn't care what coin is on it, it doesn't matter after a point.

Coins can be added in or merged to a network.  

Then these CounterParty, DogeParty, NXT, Mastercoin, Bitshare platforms will also be as easy to integrate as it will be just another (github) plug-in.  But the catch is 'Counter Party' risk.

UNO is in a cool spot.  If bitcoin continues to tip down, and UNO holds value, then gains value.  Watch out!

We can 'plug in' merged coins or colored-coins in a few hours.  It will likely happen even if we do nothing.  

Every significant network will feature these perks.

I am also certain that other perks in wallet will include:

Anon messaging/email/facebook/twitter
Autotrade systems (see XCH, cxc, qtl)
web browsers
cloud storage
craigs/ebay

just plug in

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the important thing is not the perks/apps
the important thing is VALUE and HASH ... one follows the other

https://coinplorer.com/Charts?fromCurrency=UNO&toCurrency=USD
https://coinplorer.com/Charts?fromCurrency=UNO&toCurrency=ZET
https://coinplorer.com/Charts?fromCurrency=UNO&toCurrency=XPM
https://coinplorer.com/Charts?fromCurrency=UNO&toCurrency=CGB
https://coinplorer.com/Charts?fromCurrency=UNO&toCurrency=FTC << dollar traded on cry ... ha ha

[FallingKnife]

lol @edgar.

I just got 10g of Gold from Coaex.com yesterday after paying with Uno.
Another feather in Coaex's hat, a bit more pm for me.

Thanks, FallingKnife. That shipment was a little bit delayed due to holiday season.
We have been shipping in regular time, now. We are also happy that you received that item at a bargain price! Hope you are happy with your purchases.

Yes, very pleased with the entire transaction from start to finish. Great doing business with Coaex again.

Looks like the price of Uno worked itself out nicely.

[Benefactor]

[Benefactor]

so, given that QE is intended to go on for 'a while' and the currencies of China, Japan, UK, EU, US are destined for the toilet - are you 'all' parking your entire fiat wealth in cryptos/PMs??

No way!  Firstly, they haven't died yet, and it's probably prudent to assume that the coin of your local realm will remain fiat in some form or another for some time, so you certainly wouldn't want your month's rent/mortgage and expenses in cryptos, nor next month's, nor....  One shouldn't risk their immediate expenses like that, because markets can be bearish for multi-months, and it can create unnecessary problems.

Secondly, nothing is guaranteed, so a variety of wealth storage instruments appears warranted.  Unobtanium should only be a percent of your wealth storage, IMHO.  Definitely maintain your PM hoard!  (BTC/Ag ratio play is only with a portion of the hoard.)  Thirdly, anything you can do to be self-sufficient is best, especially if you do it in concert with your local community.  Having UNO hodlers like this strengthens UNO, too, reducing selling pressure for fiat, etc., and increasing demand for UNO in the long-term and for new uses.

Lastly, keep a hoard of other essentials and everything else, if possible.  There are many advantages to having things (that do not spoil or depreciate considerably) on hand.  This is also a form of wealth storage.

JIMHO.

[BitcoinCharlie]

so, given that QE is intended to go on for 'a while' and the currencies of China, Japan, UK, EU, US are destined for the toilet - are you 'all' parking your entire fiat wealth in cryptos/PMs??

No way!  Firstly, they haven't died yet, and it's probably prudent to assume that the coin of your local realm will remain fiat in some form or another for some time, so you certainly wouldn't want your month's rent/mortgage and expenses in cryptos, nor next month's, nor....  One shouldn't risk their immediate expenses like that, because markets can be bearish for multi-months, and it can create unnecessary problems.

Secondly, nothing is guaranteed, so a variety of wealth storage instruments appears warranted.  Unobtanium should only be a percent of your wealth storage, IMHO.  Definitely maintain your PM hoard!  (BTC/Ag ratio play is only with a portion of the hoard.)  Thirdly, anything you can do to be self-sufficient is best, especially if you do it in concert with your local community.  Having UNO hodlers like this strengthens UNO, too, reducing selling pressure for fiat, etc., and increasing demand for UNO in the long-term and for new uses.

Lastly, keep a hoard of other essentials and everything else, if possible.  There are many advantages to having things (that do no spoil or depreciate considerably) on hand.  This is also a form of wealth storage.

JIMHO.

I'm with Benefactor. Things that help generate value in form of production or services will be valuable in a collapse as will food, booze and let's face it, dope.

I think that the fiat destruction will play out longer in slow motion and then there will be some black swan event that causes everyone's confidence to collapse quickly and all at once. The strange thing is, one or two of the fiats will likely survive being the prettiest of all of the ugly sisters.  The dollar is a perfect example as it is backed by a country with an $18+ TRILLION debt with absolutely no possibility of repayment, yet it retains its reign as the reserve currency somehow. Although as the US betrays it's allies (Saudi Arabia) the petro-dollar will wane in influence, especially also due to the fact that many global players are entering bi-lateral currency agreements to allow for settlement of international business sans the US dollar...

[IMZ]

so, given that QE is intended to go on for 'a while' and the currencies of China, Japan, UK, EU, US are destined for the toilet - are you 'all' parking your entire fiat wealth in cryptos/PMs??

No way!  Firstly, they haven't died yet, and it's probably prudent to assume that the coin of your local realm will remain fiat in some form or another for some time, so you certainly wouldn't want your month's rent/mortgage and expenses in cryptos, nor next month's, nor....  One shouldn't risk their immediate expenses like that, because markets can be bearish for multi-months, and it can create unnecessary problems.

Secondly, nothing is guaranteed, so a variety of wealth storage instruments appears warranted.  Unobtanium should only be a percent of your wealth storage, IMHO.  Definitely maintain your PM hoard!  (BTC/Ag ratio play is only with a portion of the hoard.)  Thirdly, anything you can do to be self-sufficient is best, especially if you do it in concert with your local community.  Having UNO hodlers like this strengthens UNO, too, reducing selling pressure for fiat, etc., and increasing demand for UNO in the long-term and for new uses.

Lastly, keep a hoard of other essentials and everything else, if possible.  There are many advantages to having things (that do no spoil or depreciate considerably) on hand.  This is also a form of wealth storage.

JIMHO.

+1

@ Bitcoin National: the Denmark (Western Australia) Crypto Town Project in 2013 gave Ian and I an early glimpse at the idea of a 'small' coin. It was also at that time that Hull in England launched its (centralised) alleviation-of-poverty coin. [http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/hullcoin-local-gov-cryptocurrency/2014/04/10] And the Franko had just been accepted by a Chamber of Commerce in the U.S.

Feel free to ask me. Two things became clear: (a) a 'suite' of coins makes sense: a local coin -- look up the word 'centripetal.' And a 'big hitter.' (We chose Litecoin.) A 'training-coin' that is cheap enough to make mistakes with is a great marketing tool. (Doge turned up on cue).

And (b) something like Un-Ex, that is, a 'crossroads' of dynamic crypto geeks who provide a 'doorway' to the cryptos. (We'd already run the Yacoin Australia experiment.) These geeks provide tech-support and get to trade the coin that flows through system.

[Funny Story: we had a 420,000 Doge faucet. We explained to the world (on the Net and in the Denmark, Western Australia, newspaper, etc.) that 'You can have 10,000 Doge if you are from Denmark.'

So, one morning I get a message: 'Yah, my name is Sven. I am come from Denmark. Can I have 10,000 Dogecoin?' After I finished laughing, I sent this Danish guy his Doge.]

[Benefactor]

Nice - market is sustaining itself up to 0.00969.  I thought I was going to have to throw some more post-silver BTC's at 0.0090, but I guess it isn't necessary.

Hey, feel free to dump into the 0.0085's for a good time!  You may not be able to ditch them so cheaply in the future, as gustav has promised!

 

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A hearty thank you to everybody who is selling under 0.0125.  

Was it BitcoinCharlie who said he's happy with only a 25% gain for the whole year, (in a post that was unrecoverably dropped off BCT a couple of days ago?)  Booooorrrring.

We lost the 'boring' posts? Tell me, guys, (and ladies, if we have any,) how boring is Unobtanium?....

[BitcoinCharlie]

LOL, I'll take 25% any time I can get it, but it wasn't me. I'm reminiscing about buying $UNO at. 0033 about a year ago.

It will be interesting when people start figuring out how $UNO works and then they pile in. To the moon! 

[FallingKnife]

I have completed my technical analysis of UNO.






We haven't had enough image posts lately.  We need more of ProminerOne's graphics.

It's the weekend --let's MEME out!

[IMZ]

There is a row of these craft -- all-wooden construction -- at the old harbour in Jakarta. More than once I have bribed my way up the gangplank with a couple of packs of ciggies, and clambered all over it, but never managed a life-long dream, to sail on one.

Sigh.

[IMZ]

One: guys, congratulate cragv. His business -- Data Retriever -- accepts Unobtanium

Two: 6% of our volume today was on Cryptsy's XRP/UNO -- ?? I had a look, but I am too rotten a trader to understand what I was looking at.

Three: The Independent Reserve Exchange in Australia

Guys, buying coin has been a problem from Day One for us. For example, we had to find a bank account that had ‘pigeon holes’ for both $AU and $US.

Then things were better. Then came the 10% ‘Bastardry Tax’ – and that’s the right term. It is a punitive measure (along with several other onerous accounting requirements for crypto use).

Then came I.R. They don’t actually buy and sell cryptos (Bastardry Tax!) They are more like LocalBitCoins, and ‘introduce’ you to buyers and sellers – no B.T.!

Volume remains thin – and it is IMZ’s very first excursion into fiat-crypto trading: we swore we would ‘stay inside’; but being ‘locked out of’ trading for months by falling Btc prices was driving us nuts.

Conclusion: we gotta check out a mob called ‘Coinspot’ – no B.T.? But I.R. is a step forward for Oz coiners; and now you see our enthusiasm for P-WIPping etc.!

To give you an idea: Ian and I were discussing 'krypto geek density.' We figure that the laptop I'm now typing on has probably the last Bitcoin wallet short of Antarctica.

[5ick3uffalo]

Hi, is the wallet safe?

Comodo alarmed me while installing




And after i uploaded it on Virus Total also showing 2 results







False Alarms? Just want to get sure....

[gustav]

Hi, is the wallet safe?

Comodo alarmed me while installing

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And after i uploaded it on Virus Total also showing 2 results

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False Alarms? Just want to get sure....

I'm running it long time now. I have Tcp monitor and monitor of svchost aswell as monitor of system processes and shows no suspicous activity. Wallet is OS and should be clean. My antivir marks it as 'bitcoinminer' which should be OK.

[cragv]

Hi, is the wallet safe?

Comodo alarmed me while installing
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And after i uploaded it on Virus Total also showing 2 results
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False Alarms? Just want to get sure....

Edited to remove my comparison testing, as I didn't see Virus Total's uploaded file analysis: yes, there are two positive detections found:

ESET-NOD32   a variant of Win32/BitCoinMiner.BJ   20150113 (info page; claims this will render the PC unusable. This is patently untrue of this file.)
Rising   PE:AdWare.Win32.Eorezo.a!1075356178   20150112 (info page)

I've examined my system for the various files the above viruses/malware are supposed to 'drop' onto my Windows 7 system, but could find none of these:

From Win32/BitCoinMiner.BJ:
Mamatjie.exe
Hstart.exe
Abudale.cmd
Hsbc.exe
Hakonamatata.cmd

From PE:AdWare.Win32.Eorezo.a:
%TEMP%\is-AR0US.tmp\inst.tmp
%TEMP%\is-0DM99.tmp\_isetup\_shfoldr.dll
%TEMP%\is-LMAU9.tmp\4dcbd21fea7241f7107c188fa9804315.tmp
%TEMP%\is-0DM99.tmp\inst.exe
%TEMP%\is-0DM99.tmp\itdownload.dll
%TEMP%\is-KGN1G.tmp\_isetup\_shfoldr.dll


==> Should be false positive/safe file.

[Benefactor]

I'm not much of a computer dude in this new age, but I recall how a couple of years ago, the evil powers that be would add Bitcoin wallet software (or part of the software?) to antivirus lists, just because they could, and to suppress cryptocurrencies.  Bitcoin devs would have to make a new wallet version, then.

Is this what we are seeing here?  If so, we might need to involve the developers??

(Actually, maybe I'm referring to mining software.  I really should get to bed....)

[cragv]

Is this what we are seeing here?  If so, we might need to involve the developers??

This is for two of 57 total scan services. Of those two, one lists this file as being Low risk all-round, 'generic' in nature (though still a 'threat'), while the other lists it as 'serious' and that "this threat will ultimately render your PC unusable".

I surmise the detection trigger was on account of some of the code in the UNO wallet being similar to code in other SHA256 wallets that had mining capability built-in (like the old Bitcoin clients used to). It appears the UNO wallet was not written from the ground-up but used existing wallet software as a base, so some similarities in code are to be expected, hence triggering certain kinds of detection. All of my 15 minutes of casual research (ie. take with grain of salt) suggest that these are false positives and that the file is safe.

I have personal confidence in the integrity of this file for various reasons: the developers are a known quantity, the file has been in use for some time, I am a qualified IT professional who keeps a tight reign on the operation of the (many) systems in my lab and doubt that malicious operation of the nature suggested above would have gone undetected. In other words, the wallet software appears to do precisely what you expect it to do, namely to function as a wallet for Unobtanium (Storage, Transactions and Ledger + Console). I believe this file to be safe and that there's no funny business of the type you are considering, Benefactor.

[5ick3uffalo]

OK, thank you

[gustav]

Obviously i was too bearish on Bitcoin (went long for a bit yesterday)


Still marketaction doesn't look very healthy. I can't read that bitcoinmarket, really. Could be dumping, could start rally - i have no idea.



Uno looks strong today, i like that.  

[BitcoinNational]

UNO market is very nice.  Cracking 0.01btc in a btc up swing shows the confidence is strong.

Time will show how strong the 0.01btc support is, and my guess is were crossing this bridge and not coming back.
$/un market is a little hot.  Next resistance @ $3.  I am ready for that price.  My target is $5 in July and $8.50 in 1 year from today.

BTC market is nutty.  Reaching for a price it could not support.
The market should be $200-$210 and stay there for weeks before reaching up.

However, it may get very nutty as the NASDAQ ETF is going to be announced soon.
So the market could swing wild up to $400 ... then back down to $150 by March.
(Nice if you went $50M in at below $200 pump on the NASDAQ buzz for 50-100% gain)