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Author Topic: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Merge Mine w/BTC! - Update NOW to qt 0.11.0  (Read 1039160 times)
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September 22, 2014, 10:28:03 PM
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@ Sirsmokes: now is the time to make The Big Push for price-independence. IndiaMikeZulu has ideas out the wazoo about this, though we do need to tackle some relevant theory, and be unconcerned to publicly discuss Some Stuff That Other Coins Are Doing. (Noted one yesterday -- ask me.)

@ vector.iso: 3 years!! We should publish some 'interviews' for our first birthday, as a first step in the consultancy thing (price-independence: 'community itself as asset') For example, we could set up a Q and A in a few spots (I like the cryptocurrency section at Reddit Doge). There is a great deal of talent-per-square-inch here.

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September 22, 2014, 10:50:05 PM
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Is there any chance that BW's new exchange would allow for direct fiat to UNO purchases?


Yeah, I think there's a good chance. AltExchange & BW have been working on it, but having difficulty finding willing banks. BW has tweeted his thoughts on that already. But in the long run, I believe you'll be able to move fiat into Altmarket and then exchange directly for Uno.

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September 22, 2014, 10:56:23 PM
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another 270 uno ready to be bought at 45 , just below my order of 59 UNO , more support needed !

Go get 'em tiger! Smiley  In USD, these are very good prices. 
Uno should be at 006, easy.

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September 22, 2014, 11:10:06 PM
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The Blue Crypto Award


Latest Vote Tally:


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September 22, 2014, 11:15:40 PM
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Links to the 'Award thread:

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Did you know that you can vote for free?  I've made my own personal funds available (again), so everyone can vote with (0.1 UNO) x3 for 3 different nominees!!!  (Limited to the first 30 people)  Tell a friend!!!

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September 22, 2014, 11:31:03 PM
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@awards: great work benefactor!

@btc-e and price indepandance:
btc-e have other options too. Did you try perfect money? That stuff is additional risk of course since you have another middleman who could run with the money.

But it is true. Uno would need a good fiat-exchange to become really independant - and a higher marketcap would also help. I think it could be achieved down the road. Currently Uno turned out to be very well pegged to 2 USD for a long time. A great start.

Had another thought. What happens when bitcoin foundation messes things up? What if they would ever betray the community because they were corrupted by big money? What if they would decide next year to remove the hard cap of 21million and replace it with 4% inflation? Where would people go?
I think it is another thing going for uno that there is no such foundation that could become currupted. If the btc-foundation would ever fail in a big way, people could switch to Uno. Let's also keep in mind: what if bitcoin-foundation delivers a major blow? Uno would be there for people to go to.
We don't have a foundation and i don't think we need one with hard assigned possitions. It's good to have no hirarchy in place and no closed door politics. I think it's a good thing to have all the important things discussed in public. It is also consistent in the spirit of decentralization and open source. I could not think of a situation ever where closed door politcs would be an advantage. They are really just an disadvantage undermining trust and open things up to corruption. So Uno could/should really be a coin that sticks to its initial vision and doesn't become corrupt easily. A great thing going for it.
The 250k max coins is an important point of uno. So along that line of thought of the possibility of a corrupt or failing btc-foundation, uno suddenly really becomes a hedge for a fail of bitcoin.
Just a play of thoughts. Not saying btc-foundation will fail, but it is a possible scenario that should be allowed to think about.

So as things stand: Price independance from bitcoin is a thing uno could truely establish. Would be a great thing to see that happen. No obstacles in the way. Just needs a little more adoption, a little higher cap and solid fiat exchange or two. Nothing too outlandish. So far it is doing quite well.



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September 22, 2014, 11:58:31 PM
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Sorry my skills are very limited.  $2 Uno will give way to $5 Uno.

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September 23, 2014, 12:10:09 AM
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Sorry my skills are very limited.  $2 Uno will give way to $5 Uno.

Lol! Perfect  Cheesy

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September 23, 2014, 12:27:16 AM
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Just to be clear... THESE are counterfeit! Some tyrant got hold of a printing press, it seems.


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September 23, 2014, 12:28:51 AM
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with this higher volume of last hours uno has now officially surpassed bitcoin in the supply/tradevolume equation (tradevolume devided by new coins per day) on global scale. Approaching drk and ltc now. Uno is on the way to the top. Go mUno!  Cool

Once cracking LTC and DRK on 'tradevolume vs inflation' it'll be the No1 coin for investors and traders. There is still so much room for growth. We haven't even started this thing yet. Very high potential in Uno from the fundamental standpoint.
Same volume as we had during last weeks after the halving will put Uno at the Top of all the coins (including bitcoin) in regards of fundamental analysis and as things stand also in TA of charts. I'm expecting great success. Price will have to grow a lot to keep in check the volume/supply for the time to come.
To the mUn!

5$ bare minimum from my standpoint. Consistent trading and stability around higher levels will bring confidence. Steady growth is to be prefered to insane spikes in this case. Uno looking good.




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September 23, 2014, 12:42:50 AM
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got a meme for you Smiley

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September 23, 2014, 08:28:06 AM
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@ Mr. Transactional says, 'Look at all the groceries I bought with Unobtanium!'

@ Gustav: yeh, this metric is a winner.

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September 23, 2014, 01:00:46 PM
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there's a lot of regulatory hoops an exchange would have to jump through to make it happen.  Plus, getting USD in and out of exchanges is a royal pain in the ass.  I remember some months back there was an exchange trying to gauge interest in a UNO/USD market....but they were a russian exchange I had never heard of.  you gonna mail a check off to russia and expect they'll do business with you straight?  I think you've got just as good of a chance of finally meeting your nigerian prince for a date.  but even still, I've been around the cryptocurrency space for almost 3 years now and I still don't know if you can actually fund a btc-e account with usd.

Its just so much easier to buy some btc with your coinbase account and immediately send it over to buy your UNO.  I think we are already seeing quite clearly that the value of UNO is more closely tied to the value of USD than it is to BTC....bitcoin just happens to be the easiest medium.  and really, i don't know about you guys, but I don't actually plan to "sell" my stash of Unobtanium for government funny money...like ever, really, unless it is absolutely necessary.  And if the value UNO got to the point where my current stash was considered a fortune, I imagine some sort of UNO/USD market would pop up just because it would be an opportunity for some exchange to make money.  This imagememe kinda sums up my attitude towards unobtanium:

basically, I'm just saying that I don't think its worth fighting for at this point in the game

The new BW exchange is registered according to the site:

"Alternative Markets LLC is registered and compliant with the United States Bank Secrecy Act, FinCEN BSA ID 31000053412302"

So it really shouldn't be too much of a hassle considering they are u.s based. I would imagine it to be like setting up a coinbase account.

I get what you are driving at, i personally feel we are at least a decade away from mass adoption of crypto. So yes, my immediate goals are to sell off about half of my holdings to pay off my debts, and hold the rest for when the inevitable collapse of the american government takes place. I doubt i will have internet access then, so i really question the value of the coins, but hey, if after the nuclear apocalypse, there is an internet, and people willing to use it for the exchange of cryptos, i will be prepared.

Ya know, everyone always talks like the internet has been around forever.. like the network and having access to the internet is not a weak point in crypto. I can't say i have ever read much about people worrying about this. It does concern me though. Yeah, when i view the future i see us becoming more connected into the digital space, but my access to it is really limited to  either having access to a cell phone, or an isp. Can the internet be destroyed, meeehhh, i don't really think so, but as far as i know crypto only works if the net works. I guess we just don't talk about it much because no one thinks it is possible?

I don't understand why this is never brought up, but people can speculate about how in the future every item will have a coin attached to it  Roll Eyes

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Sirsmokes, fire off a PM to Ian, my offsider. His insight into Will The Net Collapse When It All Happens is brilliant and re-assuring.

And where will I be by then? well, check out how far out in the boonies I live. Emu chick looking in my living-room window.
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September 23, 2014, 01:25:22 PM
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@smokesalot
internet outage will never be global and local only temporary. When there is electricity, there is internet normally.
Only exception to that would be huge solar flare/ solar storm but since that would lead to melt down of the nuclear reactors worldwide it would be extinction anyways.
I personally can not think of any scenario where the internet is globally and permanently defunct without an extinction level event - in which case money will be your smallest concern.
Well, i choose to see it positive: won't happen in my life and if it does i'll see then what to do. No need on planning on things that don't happen anyways. That's just distraction. A fail of the monetary fiat system is by far more likely than any of the other bad scenarios. That is real. So crypto does make sense. I do trust my internet connection more and i think it is more sustainable longterm than the debt driven inflation fiat system we have now. Wink

I am far more concerned about the financial system than i am about a functional internet or human extinction tbh. Internet, humanity or the financial system - which will fail first? I think the answer is quite obvious.  Roll Eyes
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September 23, 2014, 01:39:40 PM
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Sirsmokes, fire of a PM to Ian, my offsider. His insight into Will The Net Collapse When It All Happens is brilliant and re-assuring.

And where will I be by then, well, check out how far out in the boonies I live. Emu chick looking in my living-room window.

Lol nice! Are emus wild down there? I live more in the sticks than a city, but it is fairly developed all the same. I love the convenience of having things close, but don't care much for the crowds.

Is there a paper Ian has written about it, or more just his ideas?

@smokesalot
internet outage will never be global and local only temporary. When there is electricity, there is internet normally.
Only exception to that would be huge solar flare/ solar storm but since that would lead to melt down of the nuclear reactors worldwide it would be extinction anyways.
I personally can not think of any scenario where the internet is globally and permanently defunct without an extinction level event - in which case money will be your smallest concern.
Well, i choose to see it positive: won't happen in my life and if it does i'll see then what to do. No need on planning on things that don't happen anyways. That's just distraction. A fail of the monetary fiat system is by far more likely than any of the other bad scenarios. That is real. So crypto does make sense. I do trust my internet connection more and i think it is more sustainable longterm than the debt driven inflation fiat system we have now. Wink

I am far more concerned about the financial system than i am about a functional internet or human extinction tbh. Internet, humanity or the financial system - which will fail first? I think the answer is quite obvious.  Roll Eyes

I can't rule it out when i am speculating, or at least i try to lessen my risk a little bit by changing some of my crypto to metals and such. With how much our society as human beings has been built upon technology and the internet, i do agree that if we are without it, not having the internet is going to be the LEAST of my concerns. Even in my thoughts about such a scenario eventually i have people getting the web back online, because it really is that awesome. It is like having a library with every resource manual at your fingertips constantly. Man discovers fire, the wheel, antibiotics, the internet. Yep yep yep.

Sadly i see this capitalistic system in the states collapsing a lot sooner than i see the internet. It isn't that i am fearful of it happening, it just seems like by selling and trading debt and having nothing giving value to the dollar other than the good will and faith of the economy, that it is DOOMED. Only time will tell. The one thing i am sure of, the price of ammo has gone up quite a bit over the past few years, and doesn't seem to be coming back down. 

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WTB 20 UNO @ .0045
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And where will I be by then, well, check out how far out in the boonies I live. Emu chick looking in my living-room window.

i want to live that far out in the boonies.  looks nice Smiley
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September 23, 2014, 07:11:02 PM
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breaking news: paypal integrating bitcoin official.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-08/ebay-s-paypal-unit-to-start-accepting-bitcoin-payments.html


dumped my fiat into btc, pulled all sellorders for uno and now i just chill the fuck out. Moonin' guys. Btc sky high - Uno will follow and make you many times the percent bitcoin will. Grab some litecoin too. See ya in outer space in a bit Wink
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September 23, 2014, 07:53:12 PM
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WTB 20 UNO @ .0045

Hi edgar,
Post it over on the trade thread and I'll fill it for you if nobody else beats me to it.
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