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August 27, 2014, 04:30:01 AM
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guys, can we all make a pact not to talk about politics here in this thread?  delving too deep into these subjects is almost certain to drive wedges between various members. There's plenty of other places on the internet I can go if I want to break out the popcorn

lets just focus on our goal of making Unobtanium a stable, attractive, and profitable store of value.

Well said.  UNO is to be the most attractive store of value.  
If we make that a factual truth then you have the freedom to buy any thing you wish with it.

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Not So Subtle Hint :  If you can trust UNO to hold a stable and rising $USD value, because it is attractive to all parties, then who can prevent you from exchange it (in small amounts) for a none stable 'shadowy monero kinds' to purchase via any shopping sTORes as you wish.  


Disinfo-Talking-Point :: crypto=criminal ... FALSE ... 99.999% of crimes are facilitated by $USD or other paper fiat.  FACT: Criminals prefer $100 bills.  FACT: The biggest banks in America are so dependent on narco-cash-flow that they have been caught & fined for laundering $BILLION$ in dirty cash.  And nobody seems to notice that elephant. So please lets actively help end this nonsense when we hear it in the general public.
 


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Not So Subtle Hint :  If you can trust UNO to hold a stable and rising $USD value, because it is attractive to all parties, then who can prevent you from exchange it (in small amounts) for a none stable 'shadowy monero kinds' to purchase via any shopping sTORes as you wish.  



conclusion:

so we need uno/drk , uno/btcd , uno/xmr , un/cloak (and so on) - markets in the mid/longterm because there seems to be real demand? Is that what you are saying?* Cheesy





*joke. Rethorical question of course. Just ignore.

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August 27, 2014, 05:28:08 AM
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Someone unloaded 500 Un on Cryptsy today, but Un is still hanging in there around 004 across the exchanges. Still a thin order book on both the sell and buy sides.
the 500 was a buy order !
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August 27, 2014, 05:30:12 AM
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Very sorry! I did not manage to get the wallet working.
I thought I had a backup but that does not work either.
I will have to start saving all over again.

 Sad

Fortunately, I have another 5 coins on Cryptsy Cry


I know i did something stupid! Just bad luck!

what was your problem? What's the error-notification? How is loosing coins related to not get it to sync? I think it isn't. Delete blockchain and redownload with correct addnodes. Should be fine.



 Does it take awhile to import the key?

yes, it rescans the chain. Can take several minutes.



I had a backup of my wallet.
Then everything removed. Then downloaded again. Updated blocks.
Only backup was gone. So the empty wallet now works fine.
 Sad


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August 27, 2014, 05:45:37 AM
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My antminer S1 is unprofitable as off today ..electricity bill is higher than the profit i make .
job done ...RIP S1 .
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August 27, 2014, 06:21:09 AM
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http://www.coindesk.com/citi-miners-merchants-keeping-bitcoin-prices-check/

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I had a backup of my wallet.
Then everything removed. Then downloaded again. Updated blocks.
Only backup was gone. So the empty wallet now works fine.
 Sad

what does 'everything removed' mean?
How can a backup be gone?
Did you delete your wallet.dat with no backups?

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I had a backup of my wallet.
Then everything removed. Then downloaded again. Updated blocks.
Only backup was gone. So the empty wallet now works fine.
 Sad

what does 'everything removed' mean?
How can a backup be gone?
Did you delete your wallet.dat with no backups?
I had made a backup. But in some strange way, it was gone. I found this out after I had removed the rest. I mean the whole folder. Then installed new wallet. When I searched for the wallet backup i could not find it anywhere.


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August 27, 2014, 07:01:21 AM
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professional FUD to shake out the weak hands just before the imminent rise. One thing that makes you loose money is listening to coindesk is what i was able to grasp over the last year.

Why don't they write about the inflation of the USD? What they talk about in that article is the inflation of bitcoin wich is still lower than fiat-inflation. Panic dump fiat?

One more reason to buy Uno.

(left a comment and people there already figured out coindesk is echoing wallstreet-propaganda)

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I had a backup of my wallet.
Then everything removed. Then downloaded again. Updated blocks.
Only backup was gone. So the empty wallet now works fine.
 Sad

what does 'everything removed' mean?
How can a backup be gone?
Did you delete your wallet.dat with no backups?
I had made a backup. But in some strange way, it was gone. I found this out after I had removed the rest. I mean the whole folder. Then installed new wallet. When I searched for the wallet backup i could not find it anywhere.

oh, good man. Did you loose your backup and deleted your wallet.dat? That would be unfortunate and worst case scenario. Never ever delete a wallet.dat with coins on it. That should be common sense. Hope you can find your backup.

If you fail to find the backup you can still go look for a tool called "UNeraser" which recovers deleted files from your harddisk.

I personally have at least 3 copies of a wallet on 3 different devices (but that's just me)


hope you can find that backup or recover the original file.

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August 27, 2014, 07:24:48 AM
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hi everyone,

i got a message from BitcoinNational with the request to come up with some ideas for UNO accepted here buttons.

here you go:






and here is a more minimal & clean version which is also nice, it has a bit more of a laboratory feel ...






if you click on the pics you can see the highres files on pinterest.

edit: here is the 2nd version as a transparent png which should work on almost any dark or light background.
of course it can be re-sized for websites etc.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gn88rv66zoan7pg/uno-accepted-here-3-transparent.png?dl=0

let me know what you think...

if you like the buttons you can send me some tips to my UNO add:
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cheers Wink

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@layer1gfx

great stuff!

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@layer1gfx

great stuff!

thanks! Wink


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August 27, 2014, 07:38:05 AM
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Hey, Bitcoin Charlie! Not a move to Yacoin (Heaven help us!). Just a reference to muckin' about with bullion sales.

I was actually thinking of your gig yesterday: gotta find good info that explains the drop in silver and gold prices in the last two years. Luckily, I suspect that a good number of Unobtanium community members do think that bullion would be a good 'anchor' (as the economy goes really pear-shaped).

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia

Low demand, increase in inventory- also increase in production, one last thing, cost of production is trending down. Just a few things which could mean silver will stagnate for a while yet.




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[...] increase in inventory [...]



which isn't even true. Silver is used to a higher degree than gold is. Gold is piling up year after year. Silver isn't. Demand outstrips supply since decades.
Why the price so low? Maybe manipulation, MAYBE  Tongue

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[...] increase in inventory [...]



which isn't even true. Silver is used to a higher degree than gold is. Gold is piling up year after year. Silver isn't. Demand outstrips supply since decades.
Why the price so low? Maybe manipulation, MAYBE  Tongue

For an overview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJhV4YOp89U&list=LLBgYfi5EKCfD7ZJiIBDArSQ

I agree silver is used more than gold.

Actually demand is pretty low too which that video should show, in comparison to pre 2013, even if industrial use is fairly constant.

But if you don't believe any numbers that are put out there (which I half don't blame you for) then nothing I say will matter.

What I will say though is this means more to me than stories and this is why silver is a buy from here on down:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HocTtEJq5BI

I don't buy stories, I buy what makes logical sense, just so happens that after 2 years in the pan that silver is starting to look good again.

Manipulation can be up or it can be down, all I care about is being on the right side of the trade.

On another note, this guy Don Harrold is extremely interesting and has a fantastic track record.




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[...] increase in inventory [...]



which isn't even true. Silver is used to a higher degree than gold is. Gold is piling up year after year. Silver isn't. Demand outstrips supply since decades.
Why the price so low? Maybe manipulation, MAYBE  Tongue

Also, if you like silver- you'll be able to buy some pure silver UNO bars (wallets) off of me soon Cheesy



But if you can't wait until then, I accept UNO for my pure silver Goxxed For the Last Time coins too Smiley

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August 27, 2014, 08:31:13 AM
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I had a backup of my wallet.
Then everything removed. Then downloaded again. Updated blocks.
Only backup was gone. So the empty wallet now works fine.
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what does 'everything removed' mean?
How can a backup be gone?
Did you delete your wallet.dat with no backups?
I had made a backup. But in some strange way, it was gone. I found this out after I had removed the rest. I mean the whole folder. Then installed new wallet. When I searched for the wallet backup i could not find it anywhere.

oh, good man. Did you loose your backup and deleted your wallet.dat? That would be unfortunate and worst case scenario. Never ever delete a wallet.dat with coins on it. That should be common sense. Hope you can find your backup.

If you fail to find the backup you can still go look for a tool called "UNeraser" which recovers deleted files from your harddisk.

I personally have at least 3 copies of a wallet on 3 different devices (but that's just me)


hope you can find that backup or recover the original file.

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there's a lot of info out there. I just know a few things:
above-ground available supply for silver was shrinking since more than 6 decades. We are now at stock-inventory of the midleages (really low). Of course they crank up production because they have to. Goverments sold out on silver. They have not much left. Meanwhile demand increases year after year since silver is used for its conductory properties in pretty much every high-tech-application out there from solarpanals to cellphones. Rfid-chips and Satellites. Weapons and computers. Did you know only 10% of mined silver goes to bullion and the other 90% go to industrial demand? A google-search on "industrial demand silver" or "silver deficit" shows uniformly that demand is increasing. The sheer flood of information out there on the topic is overwhelming and sometimes contradicting. (lots of opinions and propaganda)



(a little more offtopic on the uno-thread for you)

can't wait to see your silver-wallet to be honest before you can charge me 5 times what you would charge me now Wink


edit: one more graphic if it's not too small. The current global inventory of available silversupply is at a record low of less than 1 year of demand.



remember you heard it here first Wink

silver is certainly soon more scarce and was historically valued at 15oz to 1oz of gold. Today we have a ratio gold:silver of 1:65  ... i think we are in for a good silver-correction mid/longterm. Time will tell.

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I think creating a strong link between [Ag] and UNO is a smart move.  [Ag] has a much more 'populist' appeal and history.  Then the 'industrial use' argument. 'Low inventory' indicators.  Plus less risk in mailing/postal theft. I think we could realistically fix an exchange rate of 1uno=1/15th oz. in short order.  From there keep building up a network of 'holder/dealers' and progressively increase the amount of [Ag] backing Un.  If we get to parity 1:1, excellent.  And I think this will bring BIG attention and high volume market liquidity.  BUT ... I think we can go further than just a market capital equaling about 200k oz [Ag].  Long term 'Unobtanium' is to be created by a strange alchemy of many precious metals, goods, services, and spices.  This way the market capital can grow on up backed by physicals all the way, baby steps first.  Personally I will try to hold at least 100oz physical before this winter.  (earmarked for UN price support)

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Citi analysis points to the increased sophistication and cost of mining as a major driver for growth in bitcoin supply.
As mining costs rise, miners come under pressure to sell their freshly unearthed bitcoin to recoup the costs of their investment in equipment. Citi notes that about 3,500 BTC are mined daily, against a backdrop of 60,000–10,000 BTC in daily trading volume in recent months.
The research note says:
   “If the miners are a steady source of supply and there is no increase in final demand, we have this overhang of bitcoin being sold in the market. In consequence, we have downward price pressures.”

1. UNO does not suffer downward price pressure because of supply inflation (BTC,LTC etc do)

2. If Citi is paying any market researcher for analysis points.  Then so too are Morgan, Barclays, BOA, and Goldman.  The City maybe the biggest player of all.  And if they even acknowledge they know what BTC is then that means they are officially in the game.  Crypto has arrived.  

3. Throwing $5 million a day at BTC to 'manage' the price model is small potatoes.    Expect the full array of Wall Street tricks and traps.  Bitcoin is currently in a "shakeout", BTW.  I think things will get spike-y very soon.

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