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[klarki]

I assume that the question "when Binance?" is not going to be among best questions

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Those who like to ask such questions had better look at a clear example of how a listing on Binance does not always live up to expectations.

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[LUCKMCFLY]

Those who wish Binance listing so badly, how many BFG do you hold? How many tokens you want to dump so badly that you sleep and dream about listing? I bet you have not more than several hundreds bucks worth tokens. New token listing rarely gives huge price multipliers. Based on coinmarketcap info, alts get x5-x10 on DEXes, so imho expect around x5 in most positive scenarios if BFG gets listed on Binance. What makes that you want to get your thousand or two, and drawn BFG to the bottom. Will it really be worth to drawn BetFury like that?

Binance listing is really useless if there will be no changes on current utility of BFG. BFG is very dry which holders is just relying for the team to have a buy back using part of the casino profit while there’s no transparent report on much casino made to verify the cut for BFG holders share.

I’m holding BFG tokens but not that much. I don’t expect any explosive price pump on this token even if it’s listed on Binance if the team keeps using BFG tokens for their partnership and marketing because they are the one who unload first their token before everyone can.

Yup there's no major pump if the team might be the one who will first liquidate their assets when listing inside binance will take place, but we never know about that, if chance take place and the team manage to list BFG to binance or another good centralize exchange we might see good growth as traders will come up and will also work with this coin.

We don't know and we can't say if what will be the future value of BFG, more on your self trust and assessments.

Well, I have already said it, Binance is not something that excites me very much, mostly because of their behavior, which is so allied with the authorities of other countries and thus being able to access their costs, they also make massive blockades to do investigations and with things that are not so important, so these things do not motivate me, besides that I already have some distrust of him, because in the event that the funds are seized, how is the person left? In the case of Kucoin it is something that can be very feasible, I say Kucoin because I like its policies, this exchange seems very good to me.

[Mate2237]

Well, I have already said it, Binance is not something that excites me very much, mostly because of their behavior, which is so allied with the authorities of other countries and thus being able to access their costs, they also make massive blockades to do investigations and with things that are not so important, so these things do not motivate me, besides that I already have some distrust of him, because in the event that the funds are seized, how is the person left? In the case of Kucoin it is something that can be very feasible, I say Kucoin because I like its policies, this exchange seems very good to me.

I understand you. Really there are some times Binance make someone angry because of their delay in trade and transactions. I have been using Binance with Trust wallet, their fee rate is very high. But they also have a good side, their buying and selling vendors are good because Binance would not release coin with you receiving your cash in your bank account.
It is not everyone things favour, Binance might not good for you because of you country policy with them. But it might good for another person in another country. Country's policies differ.

[virasog]

Those who wish Binance listing so badly, how many BFG do you hold? How many tokens you want to dump so badly that you sleep and dream about listing? I bet you have not more than several hundreds bucks worth tokens. New token listing rarely gives huge price multipliers. Based on coinmarketcap info, alts get x5-x10 on DEXes, so imho expect around x5 in most positive scenarios if BFG gets listed on Binance. What makes that you want to get your thousand or two, and drawn BFG to the bottom. Will it really be worth to drawn BetFury like that?

If at any day binance listing is announced, it will create a lot of hype and obviously, the price of BFG tokens will rise. I don't say that the price will continue to remain high as we are in a bear market.
If the team is really smart and willing to list on binance, they should make it happen during the bull season as at that time the prices may even cross the all time high. The timing of listing on the biggest exchange matters a lot.

[danadc]

It is really difficult to correctly predict the combo bets because here you need to predict few bets correctly in order to win the money. Even if you lost one bet, you will lose the combo bet. So it is really risky to go for combo bets.
The only reason why people will try their luck on these bets is that if they win these combo bets, the reward will be much higher as compared to win a single bet.

If you ask me, i will prefer to win a single bet even though my profit ratio will be less but it is better to avoid the loss by not playing the combo bets.

That's why it has better pay offs when you win. Higher the risk, higher the reward, it's based just on math. When you try to catch on easier bets you will have lower reward ratio.
Both of the styles can equally make you ton of money and both can make you rekt. There's no right or wrong way to gamble, there are just personal preferences.

I have never bet like that, with a parlay or combination bet because you have to have a lot of knowledge, if I make a bet like that and see that I win one or a match, what I would do would be to Retire when I barely win one, because I know that I put everything at random, there is no other way because I know which are more capacities, and I read the betting threads because I want to get more information,reading here is enough to learn,but the more specific threads sometimes do not understand the information, the members They speak in great detail and I get lost.

[GigaBit]

It is really difficult to correctly predict the combo bets because here you need to predict few bets correctly in order to win the money. Even if you lost one bet, you will lose the combo bet. So it is really risky to go for combo bets.
The only reason why people will try their luck on these bets is that if they win these combo bets, the reward will be much higher as compared to win a single bet.

If you ask me, i will prefer to win a single bet even though my profit ratio will be less but it is better to avoid the loss by not playing the combo bets.

That's why it has better pay offs when you win. Higher the risk, higher the reward, it's based just on math. When you try to catch on easier bets you will have lower reward ratio.
Both of the styles can equally make you ton of money and both can make you rekt. There's no right or wrong way to gamble, there are just personal preferences.

I have never bet like that, with a parlay or combination bet because you have to have a lot of knowledge, if I make a bet like that and see that I win one or a match, what I would do would be to Retire when I barely win one, because I know that I put everything at random, there is no other way because I know which are more capacities, and I read the betting threads because I want to get more information,reading here is enough to learn,but the more specific threads sometimes do not understand the information, the members They speak in great detail and I get lost.

Where there is more risk there is more profit but before taking the risk a gambler should understand whether he is worthy to bear that risk or not. It is very difficult to win without risk in gambling. On the other hand, there are some gamblers who constantly gamble without following any rules even after winning, this will not bring them any good either. If a gambler takes a break after winning then his winnings may increase but it will depend entirely on his luck. There are no specific rules in this fact.

[klidex]

We cannot compare between slot games and sports betting because both are completely different from the aspect of luck.
I mean slot games are games that come from casinos and slot games themselves are designed using RNG, which means random numbers will come out and we can't predict wins.
On another aspect, slot games use RTP which allows gamblers not to spend their balance too quickly.
For sports betting that comes from a sportsbook, the results can be more predictable, even though the final result sometimes does not guarantee victory.
But at least at sports betting you can make predictions that make it possible to get big wins.
And in slot games you don't have to need a professional gambler to get maxwin because this is truly a random number, it's just that the game has a few techniques not a strategy to get a big multiplier to get small or big wins.

As i explained, the reason i am using them instead of sports betting is, i don't need to wait, with combo betting i would need to wait for days and i am not often even seeing every game. But putting %5 in a slot machine i don't need skills. I will be exactly in same position as everyone else and upside of winning lot with small bet can be as high as life chancing.

If you are good at betting on sports, you really should do that. I was merely explaining why slots can be attracting to me. I like sports betting as well but i want to watch the game and in order to win big with small bet i will need to do combination bets. And waiting for results can be frustrating when i have small attention span.

well, it goes to show that each gambler has their own preference when it comes to betting. and surely, some has their reasons to play some of those luck-based games and also why they are also betting on sports. in any case, it is your own money so you're the one responsible to your games.
but when it comes to sportsbetting, based from my experience, it is quite hard to win in combo bets. unless, your luck is also on your side and you're very sure of those matches.

It is really difficult to correctly predict the combo bets because here you need to predict few bets correctly in order to win the money. Even if you lost one bet, you will lose the combo bet. So it is really risky to go for combo bets.
The only reason why people will try their luck on these bets is that if they win these combo bets, the reward will be much higher as compared to win a single bet.

If you ask me, i will prefer to win a single bet even though my profit ratio will be less but it is better to avoid the loss by not playing the combo bets.

I realize that everyone has their own choice in betting and choosing sports or casino betting, both are equally good as long as they can enjoy every bet that is made.
I sometimes also go to sports betting when I'm tired of betting on casino games like slots and try to bet on sports betting by trying some strategies.
Yes, it's true that combining bets is very difficult. If one team loses, the combo bet will also be lost.
I prefer single bets over combo bets where there is also less chance of winning.

[coinerer]

Professional gamblers and those who play slot games regularly can also guess what the machine can deliver step by step due to playing the slot for a long time. So you can't say that slots are impossible to predict. But yes it is believable that sportsbets can make sure predictions which are not possible in slot games. Due to which sports bets can be preferred by many. But on the other hand slot games are more fun than Sportbet

Yes, a site's algorithm is set to behave the same way every time because the system can never think like a human being; here it works as programmed. So a professional gambler who gambles regularly can capture the consistency of the machine. So in that case it is normal that a regular gambler has a higher winning history than a new gambler for all games. But Sportbet is different from other casino games because there is a live game while other games have a result through the machines.

Well, unfortunately, i think you are wrong, if the site (like you said) have been programmed to behave the same way, that is probably not to allow gamblers win that much, then it means that majorly, every casino have been lying to us when they tell us that their system is probably fair, and even try to prove it through some process...

For me, I think the algorithm controlling casinos are dynamic, this is why it is very possible that both of us can play the same game at the same time, betting the same amount, and one of us will end up winning while the other lose.
If the algorithm was programed to work the same way, we are supposed to both win at the same time and also, lose at the same time.
I believe you understand what I mean.

Every site's algorithm is done in such a way that the algorithm works like AI and I think there is a limit set that when a gambler bets above a certain amount the amount of loss will be high and the amount of profit will be less and if he bets below that amount  The amount of loss will be less and the amount of win will be more.  Because of this some win a few times of high amount but most of the high amount bets are lost if one plays play any game against system. hope you also understand my point

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Professional gamblers and those who play slot games regularly can also guess what the machine can deliver step by step due to playing the slot for a long time. So you can't say that slots are impossible to predict. But yes it is believable that sportsbets can make sure predictions which are not possible in slot games. Due to which sports bets can be preferred by many. But on the other hand slot games are more fun than Sportbet

Yes, a site's algorithm is set to behave the same way every time because the system can never think like a human being; here it works as programmed. So a professional gambler who gambles regularly can capture the consistency of the machine. So in that case it is normal that a regular gambler has a higher winning history than a new gambler for all games. But Sportbet is different from other casino games because there is a live game while other games have a result through the machines.

Well, unfortunately, i think you are wrong, if the site (like you said) have been programmed to behave the same way, that is probably not to allow gamblers win that much, then it means that majorly, every casino have been lying to us when they tell us that their system is probably fair, and even try to prove it through some process...

For me, I think the algorithm controlling casinos are dynamic, this is why it is very possible that both of us can play the same game at the same time, betting the same amount, and one of us will end up winning while the other lose.
If the algorithm was programed to work the same way, we are supposed to both win at the same time and also, lose at the same time.
I believe you understand what I mean.

Every site's algorithm is done in such a way that the algorithm works like AI and I think there is a limit set that when a gambler bets above a certain amount the amount of loss will be high and the amount of profit will be less and if he bets below that amount  The amount of loss will be less and the amount of win will be more.  Because of this some win a few times of high amount but most of the high amount bets are lost if one plays play any game against system. hope you also understand my point

Well, I understand your point..
First, there is no need saying that algorithm works like Ai, this is because algorithm is Ai in itself, what ever that is programmed to work or behave in a certain way, dynamically, can also be referred to as an Ai.

Secondly, playing against the house is all about luck, there are no hidden facts to this, except if the casino is a fraudulent one that have programmed their system in such a way that gambler NATURALLY loss far more than they win.
But for casinos with a functioning provably fair system, that is fair on the gambler and fair on the casino - it doesn't matter how much or how large the amount of money you bet is, you can still win if you are lucky, but the thing is, you won't be allowed to win an amount that is above the casino's winning limit, casino games is all about luck for most of it..

[TopTort777]

Those who wish Binance listing so badly, how many BFG do you hold? How many tokens you want to dump so badly that you sleep and dream about listing? I bet you have not more than several hundreds bucks worth tokens. New token listing rarely gives huge price multipliers. Based on coinmarketcap info, alts get x5-x10 on DEXes, so imho expect around x5 in most positive scenarios if BFG gets listed on Binance. What makes that you want to get your thousand or two, and drawn BFG to the bottom. Will it really be worth to drawn BetFury like that?

If at any day binance listing is announced, it will create a lot of hype and obviously, the price of BFG tokens will rise. I don't say that the price will continue to remain high as we are in a bear market.
If the team is really smart and willing to list on binance, they should make it happen during the bull season as at that time the prices may even cross the all time high. The timing of listing on the biggest exchange matters a lot.

Take a look on projects that were listed through launchpad: Space ID, Hooked Protocol, Stepn, Alpine F1. Every launchpad project gets a tremendous hype in crypto media. Compare listing price and current price later. You would find out that hype did not last long and altcoins price if not fallen down, then stays on the same level. None of the listed projects gained in value.

I would say that listing on Binance has a negative effect. After price pump during first days of listing, the project slowly turns into dead. Projects are like chewing gums, and Binance is a huge mouth. After few days, the gum is thrown away, or left for some time because it caused good memories and had good taste.

[ultrloa]

Those who wish Binance listing so badly, how many BFG do you hold? How many tokens you want to dump so badly that you sleep and dream about listing? I bet you have not more than several hundreds bucks worth tokens. New token listing rarely gives huge price multipliers. Based on coinmarketcap info, alts get x5-x10 on DEXes, so imho expect around x5 in most positive scenarios if BFG gets listed on Binance. What makes that you want to get your thousand or two, and drawn BFG to the bottom. Will it really be worth to drawn BetFury like that?

If at any day binance listing is announced, it will create a lot of hype and obviously, the price of BFG tokens will rise. I don't say that the price will continue to remain high as we are in a bear market.
If the team is really smart and willing to list on binance, they should make it happen during the bull season as at that time the prices may even cross the all time high. The timing of listing on the biggest exchange matters a lot.

Take a look on projects that were listed through launchpad: Space ID, Hooked Protocol, Stepn, Alpine F1. Every launchpad project gets a tremendous hype in crypto media. Compare listing price and current price later. You would find out that hype did not last long and altcoins price if not fallen down, then stays on the same level. None of the listed projects gained in value.

I would say that listing on Binance has a negative effect. After price pump during first days of listing, the project slowly turns into dead. Projects are like chewing gums, and Binance is a huge mouth. After few days, the gum is thrown away, or left for some time because it caused good memories and had good taste.

Hype if the dev cannot create anything to stop the selling pressure happening there. If they could just create some promotions which can make their token useful or worth to hold for sure their investors will not decide to sell their tokens so early.

That's why sometimes listing on top exchange is not enough since it also need fundings to support their token to gather more hype to their early adopter up to new investor which might show an interest to buy their tokens

[Fredomago]

Those who wish Binance listing so badly, how many BFG do you hold? How many tokens you want to dump so badly that you sleep and dream about listing? I bet you have not more than several hundreds bucks worth tokens. New token listing rarely gives huge price multipliers. Based on coinmarketcap info, alts get x5-x10 on DEXes, so imho expect around x5 in most positive scenarios if BFG gets listed on Binance. What makes that you want to get your thousand or two, and drawn BFG to the bottom. Will it really be worth to drawn BetFury like that?

If at any day binance listing is announced, it will create a lot of hype and obviously, the price of BFG tokens will rise. I don't say that the price will continue to remain high as we are in a bear market.
If the team is really smart and willing to list on binance, they should make it happen during the bull season as at that time the prices may even cross the all time high. The timing of listing on the biggest exchange matters a lot.

Timing and good support not just to list it and afterwards they will not do anything to create good hype to attract new investors, it is important to plan for future development, Binance can hype it up that's for sure but talking about long-term projections and future offers that is something that also needed a huge amount of financial support.

Let see if how BFG team will manage to cater not just the hype for Binance listing, but everything that will cover the development of
this asset/project.

[danadc]

Those who wish Binance listing so badly, how many BFG do you hold? How many tokens you want to dump so badly that you sleep and dream about listing? I bet you have not more than several hundreds bucks worth tokens. New token listing rarely gives huge price multipliers. Based on coinmarketcap info, alts get x5-x10 on DEXes, so imho expect around x5 in most positive scenarios if BFG gets listed on Binance. What makes that you want to get your thousand or two, and drawn BFG to the bottom. Will it really be worth to drawn BetFury like that?

If at any day binance listing is announced, it will create a lot of hype and obviously, the price of BFG tokens will rise. I don't say that the price will continue to remain high as we are in a bear market.
If the team is really smart and willing to list on binance, they should make it happen during the bull season as at that time the prices may even cross the all time high. The timing of listing on the biggest exchange matters a lot.

Timing and good support not just to list it and afterwards they will not do anything to create good hype to attract new investors, it is important to plan for future development, Binance can hype it up that's for sure but talking about long-term projections and future offers that is something that also needed a huge amount of financial support.

Let see if how BFG team will manage to cater not just the hype for Binance listing, but everything that will cover the development of
this asset/project.

Many talk about Binance but here the team does nothing, they are always waiting to see what they say, some Betfury representative to say something, but I see that they don't care or don't care, if a community asks to be enumerated In an exchange like this they should stop it, and respond or say that they are in the process of investigating or that they have a plan to execute or something, but I have not seen interest and if a community is not given importance, I don't know what they want to achieve, a casino if you don't have a community or lose it, your project collapses.

[dimonstration]

I would say that listing on Binance has a negative effect. After price pump during first days of listing, the project slowly turns into dead. Projects are like chewing gums, and Binance is a huge mouth. After few days, the gum is thrown away, or left for some time because it caused good memories and had good taste.

It’s not about Binance listing that makes most of the project dead after listing. Most of them becomes dead project because they are making Binance listing as final goal of their project which cost them a lot of resources. Betfury team claimed that Binance listing is free yet there’s a lot of report in the past that projects need to hold a certain BNB tokens as part of their listing agreement which is equivalent of paying Binance for the fee since those tokens will be held by Binance team itself.

Many team focus their resources on listing cost and sacrifice project development that always result to massive failure. The price action after Binance listing is a clear sign that there’s no further development for the project that will give hype more than exchange listing.

[cabron]

I would say that listing on Binance has a negative effect. After price pump during first days of listing, the project slowly turns into dead. Projects are like chewing gums, and Binance is a huge mouth. After few days, the gum is thrown away, or left for some time because it caused good memories and had good taste.

It’s not about Binance listing that makes most of the project dead after listing. Most of them becomes dead project because they are making Binance listing as final goal of their project which cost them a lot of resources. Betfury team claimed that Binance listing is free yet there’s a lot of report in the past that projects need to hold a certain BNB tokens as part of their listing agreement which is equivalent of paying Binance for the fee since those tokens will be held by Binance team itself.

Many team focus their resources on listing cost and sacrifice project development that always result to massive failure. The price action after Binance listing is a clear sign that there’s no further development for the project that will give hype more than exchange listing.

Sometimes it can be a dead end for the project. We're not sure either where Betfury goes after listing in binance if they ever will be listed there. It seems like they already have launched different parts of the casino including sports. It only needs bull run to make it next year so far the BFG token is not yet taking a step to move up.

Being listed on big exchanges may just be their final goal. Nothing else for Betfury unless they are going to make some usecases for the token.

[erep]

Sometimes it can be a dead end for the project. We're not sure either where Betfury goes after listing in binance if they ever will be listed there. It seems like they already have launched different parts of the casino including sports. It only needs bull run to make it next year so far the BFG token is not yet taking a step to move up.

Being listed on big exchanges may just be their final goal. Nothing else for Betfury unless they are going to make some usecases for the token.

Listing on the binance exchange is not the end goal of every project but projects that are listed on binance have great potential to increase their token use cases and motivate the team to realize the roadmap, but it is difficult for any project without quality and quantity to be listed on binance because they have different requirements and criteria certain, but if betfury has good potential to achieve the desired criteria then it is hoped that they will be listed at some point in the future. The team remains focused on the main goal of developing and improving the use cases of the token to compete with other gambling competitors.

[dezoel]

It is really difficult to correctly predict the combo bets because here you need to predict few bets correctly in order to win the money. Even if you lost one bet, you will lose the combo bet. So it is really risky to go for combo bets.
The only reason why people will try their luck on these bets is that if they win these combo bets, the reward will be much higher as compared to win a single bet.

If you ask me, i will prefer to win a single bet even though my profit ratio will be less but it is better to avoid the loss by not playing the combo bets.

That's why it has better pay offs when you win. Higher the risk, higher the reward, it's based just on math. When you try to catch on easier bets you will have lower reward ratio.
Both of the styles can equally make you ton of money and both can make you rekt. There's no right or wrong way to gamble, there are just personal preferences.

There is an alternative of low risk but bunch of low risks get together to make one big risk. Which happens in sports betting, you can wager on 10 games for teams with 1.40 or under chances to win, individually they all have a great chance to win, but when you make 10 of them on the same bet, that becomes a bit of a trouble and that is why it's risky.

I believe that the risk you take in that regard would be better than betting on 2 underdogs to win, which could be same odds when you look at the math, but 2 underdogs winning together would be a lot harder to happen than 10 favorites to win at the same time. There are differences and small nuances like that.

[TopTort777]

It’s not about Binance listing that makes most of the project dead after listing. Most of them becomes dead project because they are making Binance listing as final goal of their project which cost them a lot of resources.

Maybe you are right, but imho listing exactly on Binance is what kills a project (as an early investors pairing with stupidity of project that give +50% bonus). A lot of traders does not care about project, ideas, milestones behind the project. All the see is huge % in change column. Each listing on Binance is like pump&dumb. Have you see many projects that recovered from pump&dump attack? Well I dont. I might be wrong, but I expect BFG token price to drop in a week after potential Binance listing, and a 6month path to get back to +1cent price.

[Unsoldier]

I would say that listing on Binance has a negative effect. After price pump during first days of listing, the project slowly turns into dead. Projects are like chewing gums, and Binance is a huge mouth. After few days, the gum is thrown away, or left for some time because it caused good memories and had good taste.

It’s not about Binance listing that makes most of the project dead after listing. Most of them becomes dead project because they are making Binance listing as final goal of their project which cost them a lot of resources. Betfury team claimed that Binance listing is free yet there’s a lot of report in the past that projects need to hold a certain BNB tokens as part of their listing agreement which is equivalent of paying Binance for the fee since those tokens will be held by Binance team itself.

Many team focus their resources on listing cost and sacrifice project development that always result to massive failure. The price action after Binance listing is a clear sign that there’s no further development for the project that will give hype more than exchange listing.

Sometimes it can be a dead end for the project. We're not sure either where Betfury goes after listing in binance if they ever will be listed there. It seems like they already have launched different parts of the casino including sports. It only needs bull run to make it next year so far the BFG token is not yet taking a step to move up.

Being listed on big exchanges may just be their final goal. Nothing else for Betfury unless they are going to make some usecases for the token.

I don't think Betfury have been backing their token lately. The casino is not promoting BFG. There is no use for the token other than steaking. Betfury needs to invest more in marketing the BFG. Only with this approach can we think about listing on major crypto exchanges.

[arwin100]

I would say that listing on Binance has a negative effect. After price pump during first days of listing, the project slowly turns into dead. Projects are like chewing gums, and Binance is a huge mouth. After few days, the gum is thrown away, or left for some time because it caused good memories and had good taste.

It’s not about Binance listing that makes most of the project dead after listing. Most of them becomes dead project because they are making Binance listing as final goal of their project which cost them a lot of resources. Betfury team claimed that Binance listing is free yet there’s a lot of report in the past that projects need to hold a certain BNB tokens as part of their listing agreement which is equivalent of paying Binance for the fee since those tokens will be held by Binance team itself.

Many team focus their resources on listing cost and sacrifice project development that always result to massive failure. The price action after Binance listing is a clear sign that there’s no further development for the project that will give hype more than exchange listing.

Sometimes it can be a dead end for the project. We're not sure either where Betfury goes after listing in binance if they ever will be listed there. It seems like they already have launched different parts of the casino including sports. It only needs bull run to make it next year so far the BFG token is not yet taking a step to move up.

Being listed on big exchanges may just be their final goal. Nothing else for Betfury unless they are going to make some usecases for the token.

I don't think Betfury have been backing their token lately. The casino is not promoting BFG. There is no use for the token other than steaking. Betfury needs to invest more in marketing the BFG. Only with this approach can we think about listing on major crypto exchanges.

For sure they are reading the discussion happen on this thread and maybe they don't have enough fundings to spend on that matter that's why people don't see any marketing happen to boost the BFG token. To long for this token without good interaction so maybe its best if they could release some good updates to convince or gather new investor to support their project also their token.