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[Don Pedro Dinero]

I was thinking something... First Stake added poker and they did it in a great way, we all remember the nice freerolls that lasted for a long time. Then BC.Game did the same, but apart from adding poker, it seems they didn't make any effort to make it more interesting and attractive.

So will BetFury follow the same path? Somehow I think they will. The only question is when they will do it and of course, more importantly, how they will do it...

Nice post. I also believe poker, if done well, would be a great addition to the site. I don't really like the poker software stake and bc brought to the market. Sure stake had the freerolls but other than that it wasn't really good tbh. And as mentioned, bc lacks basically everything a poker player is hoping for, just my opinion. Also, both softwares lack personality (if you know what I mean) and the overall experience is kinda lame. So if betfury would do it I hope they can make a better job! It can't be THAT hard to make an inviting software, or am I wrong? These sites have huge amounts of cash, it should be easy to reinvest a tiny part of it into developing a fun poker experience.

I think the question is not whether or not it is difficult to make poker software. I have a friend who worked for many years in a casino and he says that poker was not profitable and in most cases even gives losses, while the most profitable thing is slots. The casino offered poker games and tournaments as a way of attracting people, who then when they lost would move on to the other casino games or slots and that's where the profits came from. I am talking about a land-based casino but if you search you will see that on the internet it is not very different. That's why not many cryptocurrency casinos offer it because it's usually not very profitable in terms of ROI. And that's why there are sites like Pokerstars that were once poker maximalists and years ago they started to offer casino games as well, and promote them quite a lot, in fact.

[memehunter]

I think the question is not whether or not it is difficult to make poker software. I have a friend who worked for many years in a casino and he says that poker was not profitable and in most cases even gives losses, while the most profitable thing is slots. The casino offered poker games and tournaments as a way of attracting people, who then when they lost would move on to the other casino games or slots and that's where the profits came from. I am talking about a land-based casino but if you search you will see that on the internet it is not very different. That's why not many cryptocurrency casinos offer it because it's usually not very profitable in terms of ROI. And that's why there are sites like Pokerstars that were once poker maximalists and years ago they started to offer casino games as well, and promote them quite a lot, in fact.

In addition to that, the biggest problem with Poker, however, is that it is now completely solved. RTA (Real Time Assistance)/ Collusion/Bots are the biggest threat and there is no effective way to catch cheaters. This is what led to the decline of online poker in general.

[Mahdirakib]

I think betfury could improve here with more friendly rules for investors.

it would be nice if they removed the 50/50 split, but i think that might be asking too much. i would say giving more than 24 hours to claim the calendar would be more friendly.

Betfury team is completely giving away a good amount (free money) to the users through this staking system. So, they will obviously look for something in return. BetFury team wants the user to visit the platform on a regular basis, which will keep the users engaged with the casino. They would have made it completely friendly there if it was an investment on the bankroll where the return would depend on the revenue (on a specific coin) of the platform. BTW, I didn't know BetFury is offering such a higher APR for staking.

[babygun]

I think betfury could improve here with more friendly rules for investors.

it would be nice if they removed the 50/50 split, but i think that might be asking too much. i would say giving more than 24 hours to claim the calendar would be more friendly.

Betfury team is completely giving away a good amount (free money) to the users through this staking system. So, they will obviously look for something in return. BetFury team wants the user to visit the platform on a regular basis, which will keep the users engaged with the casino. They would have made it completely friendly there if it was an investment on the bankroll where the return would depend on the revenue (on a specific coin) of the platform. BTW, I didn't know BetFury is offering such a higher APR for staking.

Well the APR is a lot higher than on other sites so it makes they add some rules in place. I don't do staking yet with crypto on Betfury (I use the staking with the BFG tokens) but I am wondering if a lot of people on this forum are making on this? I do staking on a major exchange (which is just the easiest and most convenient) for me personally.

[Zwei]

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Betfury team is completely giving away a good amount (free money) to the users through this staking system. So, they will obviously look for something in return. BetFury team wants the user to visit the platform on a regular basis, which will keep the users engaged with the casino. They would have made it completely friendly there if it was an investment on the bankroll where the return would depend on the revenue (on a specific coin) of the platform. BTW, I didn't know BetFury is offering such a higher APR for staking.

you could call it free money, but that only applies to flexible and fixed-term staking. for boosted fixed-term, you need to wager the principal amount between 2x and 6x. but there is no 50/50 split on that, which is nice.

i also think this is more intended for players than investors. you can earn extra $ in rewards, which mean more balance to play with.
i'm still making up my mind, but for sure i'll be trying it soon.

[Kavelj22]

Most coins that are already listed and not associated with meme are from the same class that is they have no utility at all. But we use them at gambling. The reason  why "the-fresh-out-of-the-can" meme coins like ^{TRUMP  or MELANIA} have not to be allowed to enter such trusted platforms  lies in their high  volatility caused by the potential rag pull scam which happen more than often latterly.  ^{No one  would want to have extra risks at gambling.} I'm a fresh gambler at BetFury and have to admit that their set ^{in this respect} is  more than clever.

The current charts of meme tokens from Trump and Melania really look like charts of some rug pull tokens. It's strange, I mean, hardly anyone expected to see such price manipulation on the token that was promoted by the US president.
In any case, the high volatility of such meme tokens is exactly what attracts many users. Maybe Trump's meme token may not be particularly interesting regarding a way to deposit on the Betfury platform, but the futures with large leverage on this meme token will clearly interest those users who like to gamble.

Users will then double down on the gambling principle since they will not only bet on their luck in their favorite games, but also on the fact that the meme token market will not collapse at any moment and find their tokens lost value. Any casino is supposed to take into account the characteristics of each token it lists to be safe to use and there is almost no greater guarantee than that the token has a history, i.e. that it has been used safely for a relatively long period of time to ensure the solidity of the project.

The casino itself runs the risk of storing huge amounts of liquidity for a token that no one understands anything about.

[bitmover]

Betfury team is completely giving away a good amount (free money) to the users through this staking system.

You are missing some  concepts  here
Staking is not "giving away free money " by any means.

When you go to the bank and get a loan, is it free money?
That is exactly the same thing.

Well the APR is a lot higher than on other sites so it makes they add some rules in place. I don't do staking yet with crypto on Betfury (I use the staking with the BFG tokens) but I am wondering if a lot of people on this forum are making on this? I do staking on a major exchange (which is just the easiest and most convenient) for me personally.

I usually keep some of my stash in  casinos , specially when I am in a campaignof their services. I have done so in yolodice, blackjack... always had good experiences , and i will try betfury soon.

[btcltcdigger]

When you go to the bank and get a loan, is it free money?
That is exactly the same thing.

How is it the same thing? When you got to a bank to get a loan, you put collateral for that loan and you pay interest on the loan.
With staking, yes you put collateral, but you don't pay interest. You get rewarded with an APY

[bitmover]

When you go to the bank and get a loan, is it free money?
That is exactly the same thing.

How is it the same thing?

You go to the bank and get a loan. You pay back Loan + interests (APY reward).

Betury goes to the users and get a loan. Betfury pays back loan + interests (APY reward).

[AHOYBRAUSE]

When you go to the bank and get a loan, is it free money?
That is exactly the same thing.

How is it the same thing?

You go to the bank and get a loan. You pay back Loan + interests (APY reward).

Betury goes to the users and get a loan. Betfury pays back loan + interests (APY reward).

Going to the bank was not a bad similarity, only the loan aspect was. You remember back in the days when banks actually gave you money when you stored your money with them?  I guess that was the thing he should have posted instead, haha.

Anyway, it's a great way to earn some crypto. 365 days though (which pays the best APR), with all the volatility in the price, personally would be too risky. Staking usdt though and getting 60% for 1 year is a great deal, more than great!
Of course you can always choose the take a lower fixed term like 30, 60, 90, 180, to 365 days or even make it flexible. The APR though will be significantly lower.

[memehunter]

Anyway, it's a great way to earn some crypto. 365 days though (which pays the best APR), with all the volatility in the price, personally would be too risky. Staking usdt though and getting 60% for 1 year is a great deal, more than great!

You should diversify it among various reputed casinos as well. Also, sometimes the casinos (not this one) enforce some rollover requirements as well which also needed to keep in mind. I agree with your disposition that 60% a year is good, especially on USDT.

[TopTort777]

What about x6 wagering requirement. Is it hard to achieve? On one hand seems not, on the other, after waiting for one years to get 60%, I think that many will try to wager that as quick as possible and will fall into a trap of going all-in Btw I find if funny, that if you did not meet wagering requirement, you will get zero in the end. Be late to wager 1 cent and say farewell to everything you have earned from stacking. Quite a strict rule, when banks always are open for a talk if you have any troubles.

[crwth]

What about x6 wagering requirement. Is it hard to achieve? On one hand seems not, on the other, after waiting for one years to get 60%, I think that many will try to wager that as quick as possible and will fall into a trap of going all-in Btw I find if funny, that if you did not meet wagering requirement, you will get zero in the end. Be late to wager 1 cent and say farewell to everything you have earned from stacking. Quite a strict rule, when banks always are open for a talk if you have any troubles.

I think it's a hard thing to achieve. Imagine you have to bet a volume of what you deposited. It's very deadly for our pockets  . It's just going all-in like 6x, right? It's simply a matter of making ends meet. That's scary, IMO, and I don't want to lose money right away when I'm enjoying gambling. It's different when it comes to banks, and like you said, it has negotiation stuff unlike casinos. Ugh. It's so hard. Just do the staking system;  I will try that sometime.

[Buchi-88]

As I am now also part of the BetFury campaign and I also need a BetFury ID according to my signature, I would like to say that unfortunately exactly what I feared has happened, BetFury is unfortunately not available in my region (centre of Europe).



Is there any chance that this will change in the future?

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[Haunebu]

Anyway, it's a great way to earn some crypto. 365 days though (which pays the best APR), with all the volatility in the price, personally would be too risky. Staking usdt though and getting 60% for 1 year is a great deal, more than great!
Of course you can always choose the take a lower fixed term like 30, 60, 90, 180, to 365 days or even make it flexible. The APR though will be significantly lower.

I guess this is all possible only if the site continues running. What if the site suddenly shuts shop one days and bails with customer funds? That would obviously lead to huge losses at the end of the day.

This sort of stuff already happened in way bigger sites like FTX etc in the past which is why these sort of investments are risky and it's not easy money at all.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Anyway, it's a great way to earn some crypto. 365 days though (which pays the best APR), with all the volatility in the price, personally would be too risky. Staking usdt though and getting 60% for 1 year is a great deal, more than great!
Of course you can always choose the take a lower fixed term like 30, 60, 90, 180, to 365 days or even make it flexible. The APR though will be significantly lower.

I guess this is all possible only if the site continues running. What if the site suddenly shuts shop one days and bails with customer funds? That would obviously lead to huge losses at the end of the day.

This sort of stuff already happened in way bigger sites like FTX etc in the past which is why these sort of investments are risky and it's not easy money at all.

True. There is a difference though between a casino and something like FTX. A casino, if handled correctly, is basically a cash making machine. If you have a big player base it's hard to suddenly go broke, very hard. Sure we have seen it before but mostly that's more small sites.
But of course you are right, some sort of risk is obviously always involved, you never know what's gonna happen.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Anyway, it's a great way to earn some crypto. 365 days though (which pays the best APR), with all the volatility in the price, personally would be too risky. Staking usdt though and getting 60% for 1 year is a great deal, more than great!
Of course you can always choose the take a lower fixed term like 30, 60, 90, 180, to 365 days or even make it flexible. The APR though will be significantly lower.

I guess this is all possible only if the site continues running. What if the site suddenly shuts shop one days and bails with customer funds? That would obviously lead to huge losses at the end of the day.

This sort of stuff already happened in way bigger sites like FTX etc in the past which is why these sort of investments are risky and it's not easy money at all.

Thank you very much for such a useful comment, I personally have been a victim to this type of incidents way back 2022 or 2023 when Bkex exchange shut down due to their claim of having problems with the chinese government, they claimed they will resolve it and come back strong, and since then till date, no one has had anything from this exchange.

Before the whole bruhaha began, the exchange just listed Renec (a token owned by remitano, an p2p exchange serving several African countries and some Asian countries as well), and to promote trading of the newly listed token, the exchange launched a 30 days staking Programe for renec token with an apy of around 100%, I decided to take advantage of the offer since it was enticing, a nice way to get more of the tokens for free, I staked over $600 worth of renec token for 30 days on Bkex exchange.
Around 18 days after, I visited their telegram group to learn that they are no longer processing withdrawals, the official statement was that they had regulatory issues with the Chinese government and are sorting it out, and around a month after, withdrawals are still not being processed and no admin on the group is replying to complains anymore, sooner than later, the site went offline and that was how I lost my $600, since then, I am always skeptical with any staking happening on centralized platforms.

[o48o]

As I am now also part of the BetFury campaign and I also need a BetFury ID according to my signature, I would like to say that unfortunately exactly what I feared has happened, BetFury is unfortunately not available in my region (centre of Europe).



Is there any chance that this will change in the future?

I don't see why it would change. Number of countries not served has just risen.

Wasn't region in requirements of the bounty manager's application rules? If not, they might be open to negotiate to pay the bounties to custodial wallets outside their system. That might be a loophole, because it's not casino paying you directly, but their bounty manager.

And i am guessing that someone in here will instruct using VPN to hide your citizenship, but even if you wouldn't technically be gambling, it's still going to be against the rules for them to manage your money on that platform.

[Odusko]

Anyway, it's a great way to earn some crypto. 365 days though (which pays the best APR), with all the volatility in the price, personally would be too risky. Staking usdt though and getting 60% for 1 year is a great deal, more than great!
Of course you can always choose the take a lower fixed term like 30, 60, 90, 180, to 365 days or even make it flexible. The APR though will be significantly lower.

I guess this is all possible only if the site continues running. What if the site suddenly shuts shop one days and bails with customer funds? That would obviously lead to huge losses at the end of the day.

This sort of stuff already happened in way bigger sites like FTX etc in the past which is why these sort of investments are risky and it's not easy money at all.

Thank you very much for such a useful comment, I personally have been a victim to this type of incidents way back 2022 or 2023 when Bkex exchange shut down due to their claim of having problems with the chinese government, they claimed they will resolve it and come back strong, and since then till date, no one has had anything from this exchange.

Before the whole bruhaha began, the exchange just listed Renec (a token owned by remitano, an p2p exchange serving several African countries and some Asian countries as well), and to promote trading of the newly listed token, the exchange launched a 30 days staking Programe for renec token with an apy of around 100%, I decided to take advantage of the offer since it was enticing, a nice way to get more of the tokens for free, I staked over $600 worth of renec token for 30 days on Bkex exchange.
Around 18 days after, I visited their telegram group to learn that they are no longer processing withdrawals, the official statement was that they had regulatory issues with the Chinese government and are sorting it out, and around a month after, withdrawals are still not being processed and no admin on the group is replying to complains anymore, sooner than later, the site went offline and that was how I lost my $600, since then, I am always skeptical with any staking happening on centralized platforms.

The bad experience there mate a lot of us have been victims of such existing scams which made us more careful about exchange and platforms with high API this will lead you into potential scam rug pull out, just like this one, the exchange may have Linked with those coins developers or maybe the projects are also victims of the same scams, who knows, what I have known over the time is that, once a platform halt withdrawal, it becomes hard for them to ever get back on, reasons being that halting withdrawal is the last step of exit scams, since by halting withdrawal, all coin in the user's wallet will be transferred out and the rest becomes history as they say, so mate hard luck 2022-2023 is some time now and hope you have gotten over that whole messy now, avoid high yield interest most times there are scams.