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[Zwei]

I have posted about this subject before and until now unfortunately betfury didn't change anything in the responsible gambling section. I think players should have more option to self exclude. Right now there is only the option to exclude yourself for hours/days up to a wekk, that's it. If you want a longer self exclusion you basically have to self exclude your account indefinitely. 1 week definitely is not enough in my opinion. Other site over a month, 3 months, 6 months and so on, that's much better. 1 week is hardly enough time for a breather and if you don't want to lose your account process (VIP level) players will choose to self exclude for 1 week tops. Also if you do one week you can't even do it for another one since you are only allowed to self exclude for 7 days within a month.
I honestly believe betfury should change this since it would be much better for players with problematic gambling behaviors. Hopefully they will read here and might consider some changes!

i second this, betfury should really consider changing it, at least up the limit from 7 days to 1 month.
only being able to self exclude for 7 days within a month is a joke tbh, they may as well not have it at all imo.

[liuka]

I think the most important,  and hardest,  is to control the budget.

How much money are you "allowed ' to deposit in a casino each month or week .

This is the most important thing to control imo... as the bigger damage gamble can make to your life is mostly financially

The most difficult thing to control when gambling is in terms of the deposits we make because if we lose control we can make deposits several times a day to gamble.
Indeed, gambling addiction can change a person's life in a very short time because from rich to poor because of the level of selfishness in gambling.

Indeed, as long as we have savings in a bank account, we will automatically not be able to restrain ourselves from making another deposit. I think if we are addicted and unable to balance our finances well, then in that situation we will head towards poverty because we waste a lot of money just to gamble.

I have experienced something like that, so I will be careful enough to be able to control myself to be stronger when we lose. Meaning eliminating the desire to chase defeat by making a deposit.

[philipma1957]

They have something similar. If you go to your account settings, you can scroll down until you find "Responsible Gambling." Click on that and you will see "Time Alert." You can set a time limit for your account starting at 15 mins and going up to 3 hours. After you have played for that amount of time, you will be notified and asked to stop. The other option they have is self-exclusion. I don't see deposit limits or loss limits, though.

I'm wondering if there are any statistics on how many users actually use features like time alert and self-exception. I think that users who can control themselves don't need such features. Addicted players, on the other hand, are likely to ignore such features and look for any workaround just to keep playing the slots some more.

I would better look at stats and find out if those features really help I wont believe that someone, who is a middle of a game, or still have free spins, will stop gambling when alarm rings. Turn off alarm and continue playing is what people will do. Self-exception is kind of a joke. It prevents from gambling in one casino, when there are hundreds of other casinos available. I can also open youtube or stream and watch others gambling. That self-exception does not limit me from gambling at all

Well if you can't stop on a dime for a day or two you have issues.

If you are burning free spins that is different.
I hope that no one is fully out of control, but we all know that some players lose control.

All players need to understand that if you have a problem back off if you can there is always the next day and no particular game or bet is all important.  Keep a fun model for yourself not an all or nothing model.

[Zadicar]

My 2nd sentence on above post should have answered your question, it is depending on yourself.
Let me repeat, self exclusion on casino is just an option or a feature, gamblers can use it as starting point when they want to stop, it may help them to start but the result will be depending on themselves.  
Whether you will be able to exclude yourself from all casino or forbit yourself from creating new accounts, it is your own freewill.
But if you ask me this question, yes I can do it as long as I wish and I do not even need to use self-exclusion feature when I want to stop gambling.

A better option rather than on having nothing at all, people do even say that this do act out just that some sort of formality on which these platforms do shows that they do really care for their gamblers? I dont think so.. Everything will be that depending on you on which if these exclusions being put up there then it would be only effective if you gambler itself do really means to quit.

I do totally agree into that image above that if you dont take up measures on quitting or stopping then those features or whatever exclusions or prohibitions will be that 100% useless.

Gamblers do only literally stop when they dont have any money that they could pull off into their pockets or wallets, but before that on which they dont really care at first
because as long they do have funds then they will continue no matter what.

[Taskford]

I have posted about this subject before and until now unfortunately betfury didn't change anything in the responsible gambling section. I think players should have more option to self exclude. Right now there is only the option to exclude yourself for hours/days up to a wekk, that's it. If you want a longer self exclusion you basically have to self exclude your account indefinitely. 1 week definitely is not enough in my opinion. Other site over a month, 3 months, 6 months and so on, that's much better. 1 week is hardly enough time for a breather and if you don't want to lose your account process (VIP level) players will choose to self exclude for 1 week tops. Also if you do one week you can't even do it for another one since you are only allowed to self exclude for 7 days within a month.
I honestly believe betfury should change this since it would be much better for players with problematic gambling behaviors. Hopefully they will read here and might consider some changes!

i second this, betfury should really consider changing it, at least up the limit from 7 days to 1 month.
only being able to self exclude for 7 days within a month is a joke tbh, they may as well not have it at all imo.

Maybe they didn't make it so long like that since they don't want their gamblers forget about them since its bad for their business if people would exclude their self from playing.

This is maybe the reason on why they implement those things what we saw available on their casino.

If I am the gambler I think its enough for me to take a break maybe for a week. But if anything above that timeline like months of  not playing I guess I am bound to quit for gambling. Although this is good since we can get away with many problems but for sure that's not what casinos doesn't want to happen.

[blockman]

That's a good strategy, you are in continuous accumulation through various resources and getting ready for the next bull run if this bull run won't hit your highest expected price. Or it's also good for retirement.

Indeed good strategy especially if you don't have anything to use with your funds earned from your campaigns and other online activities since its good to use it to buy Bitcoin.

I also do this frequently, but there are just times that I used small percentage of my earnings to gamble especially that their are fun stuffs like good tournaments or other promotions which I think I enjoy playing on weekends.

But I only hold Bitcoin since I don't trust the other altcoins.

I admire those folks that are in this condition that they have nothing to worry about accumulation and their funds go straight to their portfolio. I know that we've got some real world problems too but if it's about funding their port and wanting to add more Bitcoins, they're free to do that and additional incomes that they earn goes there straightly.

I think that I've done this before and set an alarm not for so long so that it will be an indication that I have to stop. And this isn't just only for the slots but also for other games that we'd like to play like crash, dice, etc. I agree that it's way more relaxing to have a time set and it won't suck out most of our time and will keep us a healthy and responsible gambler.

It's a good strategy to avoid becoming addicted, whether it's setting a time limit or budget, some games are really cool and engaging. Every day people play them with the hope of being the lucky one of the day, I hope to be one of those, although I play very few slot games and etc.

I remember that this strategy was also done to me by my parents when I used to play games when I was a kid. But this time, it is ourselves that are giving this limit and it's not just ordinary games that we're playing but gambling games. 

[Rruchi man]

I'm wondering if there are any statistics on how many users actually use features like time alert and self-exception. I think that users who can control themselves don't need such features.

I think it is most important for users to develop self-control because even though casino platforms may have features like this to assist, they never really do the job completely if you have not convinced yourself that you require some self-control to actually help yourself.

Addicted players, on the other hand, are likely to ignore such features and look for any workaround just to keep playing the slots some more.

A gambler who self-excludes from one casino but has not developed enough self-control to stay disciplined to his decision can decide to go gamble at another casino while the self-exclusion at one casino is in effect.

[Pmalek]

Well if you can't stop on a dime for a day or two you have issues.

If you are burning free spins that is different.
I hope that no one is fully out of control, but we all know that some players lose control.

All players need to understand that if you have a problem back off if you can there is always the next day and no particular game or bet is all important.  Keep a fun model for yourself not an all or nothing model.

Sadly there are players who can't help themselves. They will lose all their money and then complain how they were tricked or how the casino sent them an email or they saw an ad that they shouldn't have seen because they self-excluded themselves from the casino. It's grasping at straws and shifting the blame at others and looking for excuses. It isn't uncommon to see people like that open scam accusations against casinos on this forum. I have read such faulty accusations.

[dwyane36]

If it's just a notification coming to you in the form of an on-screen message and pop-up, it can easily be closed and ignored. A more effective way of limiting your betting is if the limit actually prevents your from gambling. If you activate an 1-hour daily gaming limit and the time is up, the feature would prevent you from playing altogether. You would have to come back tomorrow to begin a new session.

Yep, I also think that one of the effective ways to cool down a keen gambler would be to prohibit the use of the gambling platform completely. For example, an option that, after some specific time or after a certain amount of money is lost, forcibly unlogged the gambler's account and doesn't allow re-authorization until a certain amount of time has passed.

[TopTort777]

Self exclusion feature is just a option, at least with this feature you can limit your gambling in one casino and if you use this feature in all casinos where you play means that you have limited yourself for all of them.
Next thing is depending on yourself, whether you are serious or not to limit yourself after you use the self exclusion feature.
Self exclusion feature can be just a joke for those who do not even want to stop gambling from their own will.

Is it even possible to self exclude from all possible casinos? I think while you be registering and excluding yourself, new casinos will open. You why also I call it a joke? Because you exclude only an account. You think you can excluse yourself from every single casino and forbit yourself from creating new accounts?


That gate is a self-exclusion feature and field is the internet.

My 2nd sentence on above post should have answered your question, it is depending on yourself.
Let me repeat, self exclusion on casino is just an option or a feature, gamblers can use it as starting point when they want to stop, it may help them to start but the result will be depending on themselves.  
Whether you will be able to exclude yourself from all casino or forbit yourself from creating new accounts, it is your own freewill.
But if you ask me this question, yes I can do it as long as I wish and I do not even need to use self-exclusion feature when I want to stop gambling.

I am only putting under question effectiveness of self-exclusion feature. I know that it all depends from a gambler, but if today and tomorrow I dont want to gamble, I can simply not do that. I dont need to self-exclude myself from a casino. Well, ok, I am weak at self control end exclude myself for a month. Next day I had a wish to play, but I am self-excluded, ok I wait. Then next day desire to play becomes stronger, but I am still self-excluded. After few day, I will simply go and register in other casino. Where is help from self-exclusion in this case? A pause that I could have done without such feature? If I feel that I am in trouble with gambling and addiction, I would seek different help than feature that can be avoided so easily.

[btcltcdigger]

If it's just a notification coming to you in the form of an on-screen message and pop-up, it can easily be closed and ignored. A more effective way of limiting your betting is if the limit actually prevents your from gambling. If you activate an 1-hour daily gaming limit and the time is up, the feature would prevent you from playing altogether. You would have to come back tomorrow to begin a new session.

Yep, I also think that one of the effective ways to cool down a keen gambler would be to prohibit the use of the gambling platform completely. For example, an option that, after some specific time or after a certain amount of money is lost, forcibly unlogged the gambler's account and doesn't allow re-authorization until a certain amount of time has passed.

That's like being cut off at a bar. But that might be effective on one casino, but a real addicted gambler has many accounts on  many casinos, and he will just move to the next one.
In truth, there's nothing you can do except lock him up (physically)

[TopTort777]

If it's just a notification coming to you in the form of an on-screen message and pop-up, it can easily be closed and ignored. A more effective way of limiting your betting is if the limit actually prevents your from gambling. If you activate an 1-hour daily gaming limit and the time is up, the feature would prevent you from playing altogether. You would have to come back tomorrow to begin a new session.

Yep, I also think that one of the effective ways to cool down a keen gambler would be to prohibit the use of the gambling platform completely. For example, an option that, after some specific time or after a certain amount of money is lost, forcibly unlogged the gambler's account and doesn't allow re-authorization until a certain amount of time has passed.

That's like being cut off at a bar. But that might be effective on one casino, but a real addicted gambler has many accounts on  many casinos, and he will just move to the next one.
In truth, there's nothing you can do except lock him up (physically)

Lol, great example self-exclusion is like being cut off a bar, when its still day, you have money, shops and other bars around. Yeah, that cut will really stop heavy drinker from getting drunk Special lock on a wallet might work. Like a lock on a mobile when you fail unlock code numerous times - you still can receive a call (use money on something specified, like food, transport, medicine), but cant unlock to use phone fully (cant use money on everything).

[bitmover]

That's like being cut off at a bar. But that might be effective on one casino, but a real addicted gambler has many accounts on  many casinos, and he will just move to the next one.
In truth, there's nothing you can do except lock him up (physically)

Better to lock up his money

Without money, no play...

Unless if there are free spins, but they go fast... unless he is very very luck

[Fivestar4everMVP]

That's like being cut off at a bar. But that might be effective on one casino, but a real addicted gambler has many accounts on  many casinos, and he will just move to the next one.
In truth, there's nothing you can do except lock him up (physically)

Better to lock up his money

Without money, no play...

Unless if there are free spins, but they go fast... unless he is very very luck

If I understand what you guys are discussing about correctly, I would say it's definitely better to lock up an addicted gambler physically, lock him up in a single room with a very small window, and take away every gadget from him, no phone, no radio, no nothing, just him and his mind to wander and think 🤔

Leave him there for like a month or two, I believe that by the time he comes out, he must have had a brain that has ressetted itself.

Locking his money won't be effective because doing this may drive him to go and steal from other people, or borrow, but note that in the absence no one to loan him money, the urge to gamble Immediately immediately may drive him into stealing, and this could land him in jail or possible end his life through jungle justice.

[TopTort777]

What you suggest is a torture but not a solution Locking money indeed isnt best solution, as addictive gamblers are very creative people, but it will open an eye on a person or allows to look on him from different angle - less trust to an addicted gambler if we talk about borrowing money.

I suggest to close discussion with: many methods to fight gambling addiction exist, some of them are partly useful, part of them are useless, and there no "the only working method". Cure needs individual approach and a large combination of methods.

[Taskford]

What you suggest is a torture but not a solution Locking money indeed isnt best solution, as addictive gamblers are very creative people, but it will open an eye on a person or allows to look on him from different angle - less trust to an addicted gambler if we talk about borrowing money.

I suggest to close discussion with: many methods to fight gambling addiction exist, some of them are partly useful, part of them are useless, and there no "the only working method". Cure needs individual approach and a large combination of methods.

It will just increase their urge to gamble especially that its like you are challenging them to find a solution to aid their needs. With that they might do crimes just to have money and this situation really happened and hopefully we don't see anyone close to use experience this condition since this is really destructive.

If they really want to help people experiencing that situation I guess proper advice then seek professional help is really needed since I think this is the most effective way to eliminate addiction or anything excessive gambling thoughts.

[Rruchi man]

If I understand what you guys are discussing about correctly, I would say it's definitely better to lock up an addicted gambler physically, lock him up in a single room with a very small window, and take away every gadget from him, no phone, no radio, no nothing, just him and his mind to wander and think 🤔

Leave him there for like a month or two, I believe that by the time he comes out, he must have had a brain that has ressetted itself.

Locking his money won't be effective because doing this may drive him to go and steal from other people, or borrow, but note that in the absence no one to loan him money, the urge to gamble Immediately immediately may drive him into stealing, and this could land him in jail or possible end his life through jungle justice.

Like, how can you even say this? Since when has addiction become a crime and addicts criminals? They need help, not to be locked up in some room like they are insane.

Don't you know that we are social animals? We need the interactions with other humans around us to remain sane. Living a secluded lifestyle or being locked up in seclusion will only affect one's mental health more.

Instead of locking someone up for addiction, take them to rehab.

[Zwei]

If I understand what you guys are discussing about correctly, I would say it's definitely better to lock up an addicted gambler physically, lock him up in a single room with a very small window, and take away every gadget from him, no phone, no radio, no nothing, just him and his mind to wander and think 🤔

Leave him there for like a month or two, I believe that by the time he comes out, he must have had a brain that has ressetted itself.

you are sick dude. seriously, wtf is wrong with you? you are literally suggesting torturing someone to cure him from addiction.

that's not how you help an addict, you are just turning him from a gambling addict into a mentally ill person.
in any place that care about human rights, if you do this to someone (whether they consent to it or not) you are going to fucking jail.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

If I understand what you guys are discussing about correctly, I would say it's definitely better to lock up an addicted gambler physically, lock him up in a single room with a very small window, and take away every gadget from him, no phone, no radio, no nothing, just him and his mind to wander and think 🤔

Leave him there for like a month or two, I believe that by the time he comes out, he must have had a brain that has ressetted itself.

you are sick dude. seriously, wtf is wrong with you? you are literally suggesting torturing someone to cure him from addiction.

that's not how you help an addict, you are just turning him from a gambling addict into a mentally ill person.
in any place that care about human rights, if you do this to someone (whether they consent to it or not) you are going to fucking jail.

He has probably taken the idea of what is done in some cases with alcohol or drug addicts, which is to isolate them from their environment in order to break the addiction, in a much lighter way than the way he puts it, but this is of no use if you don't radically change things when you return to your routine. If you go back to having the same stimuli, apart from having been ‘tortured’ as you say, for a couple of months, the most normal thing is that when you return you enter into a gambling binge in which you lose until you leave your great-grandchildren in debt.

[blockman]

That's like being cut off at a bar. But that might be effective on one casino, but a real addicted gambler has many accounts on  many casinos, and he will just move to the next one.

Yeah, and they'll be not allowed to enter for a period of time and when that time has already expired, they may enter again. And if they break the rule during the period that they're not allowed to enter, we can't stop them because they will think of some alternatives too.

In truth, there's nothing you can do except lock him up (physically)

Completely cutting them off. This is all truth and we can't do anything to these keen gamblers and addicted already. They'll reinvent ways just for them to be able to gamble too. Even with all self exclusion and other features and contingencies, they'll do it if ever a lot of hindrances have been made.