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[philipma1957]

Anyone from brazil knows that, at least for physical casinos, it is prohibited... the government banned in-person casinos to combat addiction, but I think that didn't work, because there is no shortage of online gambling. The poorest people who receive government benefits such as Bolsa Família (family allowance) , "nest egg", etc., are using the benefit to gamble online... The government shouldn't interfere in this type of thing, because it only makes the situation worse.

Summary: no government ban, even if it is for a good cause, can solve the situation; only turning off the internet can.


Changing the subject a little, today I tested the BetFury dice game. I don't understand it very well, but I made a profit of about $9... with a multiplier of almost 2x... as soon as I saw that I was making a profit, I stopped, I'm going to rest and see if I'm going to continue betting on dice or make a sports bet...



Whoever plays dice here, how do you usually play?

brillant. you are practicing edging in your gambling  by stopping when hot and letting things cool off a bit before you get back to it.

Edging while gambling will make you a better player and allow for prolongation of action. Basically pretty much the same benefits when you practice edging with sex.

Nice.

For me when I play dice I simply watch the game until the roll is in my hands. I bet pass only and I double the bet two times. So if I bet 10 it does 20 then 40 and I walk away. Or I lose the 10.

I then move on to a different type of game for that day. Most I win is 40 or lose 10.

[Haunebu]

Do you think that due to the lack and absences sometimes of rehabilitation facilities, the level of addiction will be higher in developing countries than in developed countries?

Probably though I cannot say for certain. Developing countries usually have a truckload of people addicted to gambling without any rehab like facilities to help them out and this disparity is only getting worse with time.

Some of their governments ban gambling completely in order to try and reduce the severity of this issue which is effective to a certain degree based on my research.

[SATWAT]

Do you think that due to the lack and absences sometimes of rehabilitation facilities, the level of addiction will be higher in developing countries than in developed countries?

Probably though I cannot say for certain. Developing countries usually have a truckload of people addicted to gambling without any rehab like facilities to help them out and this disparity is only getting worse with time.

Some of their governments ban gambling completely in order to try and reduce the severity of this issue which is effective to a certain degree based on my research.

Ban on physical casinos still not working for many developing countries because here main issue is corruption and things are working through political influence which are having deep impact on lives and societies.
In our country casinos are banned but still a huge number of peoples addicted with losing money and going into deep trouble life because no one care about them and things are controlled by peoples those never want to increase rule of law and also have some better and positive things in peoples lives.
Recently online casino's activity increased despite strict ban because peoples want to enjoy with many just want to jump in this ocean for having their share even at the end this give them huge lose, or they have gone down from track which is more painful.

[Taskford]

To bad for them if they used that excuse since they have their own lives and they can decide what's best or worse for them. If they choose to follow that path where they see their parents struggle because of addiction then provably the same situation will happen to them.

But if they choose the better side which is to avoid experiencing this situation then provably that their life would became more better compare to what happen to their parents.

That's quiet advantage for us to see how our elders struggle because we already see a snapshot about what's going to happen if we exceed or became greedy on gambling that's why we should choose what's the best and try all our best not to experience addiction.

and this is why I am still married to my wife after 40 years as I saw what my dads irresponsibility did to his marriage.

So I do not risk money in excessive matters.

But I do take some risk now and then

That's early wake up call and somehow those unfortunate situation gives you a reminder to do more better since there's no regret will come first, it always comes late where everything already fall apart.

Same situation I don't want to experience, that's why I always make sure that I'm always in control and use the small funds which I can afford to lose to avoid getting any further issues.

There's nothing wrong to take a risk sometimes since that adds up the enjoyment while playing, but make sure that you didn't came to the point that you bet everything since maybe that bring bad implication and you get used to do it for many times.


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[philipma1957]

To bad for them if they used that excuse since they have their own lives and they can decide what's best or worse for them. If they choose to follow that path where they see their parents struggle because of addiction then provably the same situation will happen to them.

But if they choose the better side which is to avoid experiencing this situation then provably that their life would became more better compare to what happen to their parents.

That's quiet advantage for us to see how our elders struggle because we already see a snapshot about what's going to happen if we exceed or became greedy on gambling that's why we should choose what's the best and try all our best not to experience addiction.

and this is why I am still married to my wife after 40 years as I saw what my dads irresponsibility did to his marriage.

So I do not risk money in excessive matters.

But I do take some risk now and then

That's early wake up call and somehow those unfortunate situation gives you a reminder to do more better since there's no regret will come first, it always comes late where everything already fall apart.

Same situation I don't want to experience, that's why I always make sure that I'm always in control and use the small funds which I can afford to lose to avoid getting any further issues.

There's nothing wrong to take a risk sometimes since that adds up the enjoyment while playing, but make sure that you didn't came to the point that you bet everything since maybe that bring bad implication and you get used to do it for many times.


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yeah It is why I take risk taking very seriously and do not do it to the excess.

I do hodl Coins and mine coins more than anything else

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Do you think that due to the lack and absences sometimes of rehabilitation facilities, the level of addiction will be higher in developing countries than in developed countries?

Probably though I cannot say for certain. Developing countries usually have a truckload of people addicted to gambling without any rehab like facilities to help them out and this disparity is only getting worse with time.

Some of their governments ban gambling completely in order to try and reduce the severity of this issue which is effective to a certain degree based on my research.

A very good point, but still, I think we have to also know that in the absence of rehab centers, there are still other alternatives methods that addicted gamblers and other forms of addiction can be treated..

And let's also acknowledge the fact that in developing countries, there are also not so many gambling centers scattered around like in the developed cities, this is if we are not to talk about online gambling casinos which actually is a more modern way to gamble which majority of the people in the developing cities are even used to at the moment, most still prefer to gamble on physical casinos or bet through betting agents, and when the number of such outlets or facilities are limited, what it means that gamblers are also limited In such an area, except for those who can afford a smart phone and data to access to the internet.

[blockman]

Do you think that due to the lack and absences sometimes of rehabilitation facilities, the level of addiction will be higher in developing countries than in developed countries?

Possibly. The exposure that these facilities give to the people will help more people to be scared of getting addicted in gambling if they see that they're overcrowded. But on the other hand, they might also think that they'll be ending up in that facility being detained because of having a serious problem that needs to get resolved and that's their gambling addiction. In the circle of friends and families, we often see that no one wants to get teased of being sent to it when they're in that problem because it's shameful to be known that going there will be spread like a wildfire to the common friends and relatives. I mean this is for a personal overview because this seems to be a norm in our neighborhood and community.

[Strongkored]

Changing the subject a little, today I tested the BetFury dice game. I don't understand it very well, but I made a profit of about $9... with a multiplier of almost 2x... as soon as I saw that I was making a profit, I stopped, I'm going to rest and see if I'm going to continue betting on dice or make a sports bet...



Whoever plays dice here, how do you usually play?

You are doing martingale, right?
Congratulations because you did the right step to stop for a while after a few rounds of winning, because maybe you will start to face bad rounds because that is what players often experience, especially if you are really doing martingale.

[Zwei]

Summary: no government ban, even if it is for a good cause, can solve the situation; only turning off the internet can.

even turning the internet off would not stop it. people would just start gambling among themselves the old way. you arrest them for it, and they will just continue doing it in jail.
imo, banning something (gambling, drugs, etc...) never worked and never will. the best option is to regulate it and create a safe environment for it.

Changing the subject a little, today I tested the BetFury dice game. I don't understand it very well, but I made a profit of about $9... with a multiplier of almost 2x... as soon as I saw that I was making a profit, I stopped, I'm going to rest and see if I'm going to continue betting on dice or make a sports bet...

now go all in and turn that $9 to $18, hehehe.

Whoever plays dice here, how do you usually play?

it's a stupid way to play, but i love going all in at 1.1x.
i start with a small balance like $1 and try to run it up to $50. i do some bets with the min amount possible to catch some of the red, then go all in at random.
most of the time i bust on the first few bets, but when i'm lucky, i can even run it up to $100 if i can get 50 wins.

[Forsyth Jones]

brillant. you are practicing edging in your gambling  by stopping when hot and letting things cool off a bit before you get back to it.

Edging while gambling will make you a better player and allow for prolongation of action. Basically pretty much the same benefits when you practice edging with sex.

Nice.

For me when I play dice I simply watch the game until the roll is in my hands. I bet pass only and I double the bet two times. So if I bet 10 it does 20 then 40 and I walk away. Or I lose the 10.

I then move on to a different type of game for that day. Most I win is 40 or lose 10.

Thanks mate, I'm happy with a small profit and I enjoy the day being in the green even if it's just a little, it's still better than losing everything and chasing losses.
My game didn't even last 30 seconds... it was quick, without any headaches.
In other words, both you and I are betting with discipline, without chasing losses and when you have a small profit, you stop and rest.

You are doing martingale, right?
Congratulations because you did the right step to stop for a while after a few rounds of winning, because maybe you will start to face bad rounds because that is what players often experience, especially if you are really doing martingale.

No, I just bet in "auto" mode, I saw some ready-made strategies, but I preferred to bet in "auto" mode. What are your experiences when practicing martingale?

it's a stupid way to play, but i love going all in at 1.1x.
i start with a small balance like $1 and try to run it up to $50. i do some bets with the min amount possible to catch some of the red, then go all in at random.
most of the time i bust on the first few bets, but when i'm lucky, i can even run it up to $100 if i can get 50 wins.

It seems like a simple strategy, but it works and you should be happy with it.
I'm going to bet using the BFG coins we got for free by spinning the wheel.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Do you think that due to the lack and absences sometimes of rehabilitation facilities, the level of addiction will be higher in developing countries than in developed countries?

Possibly. The exposure that these facilities give to the people will help more people to be scared of getting addicted in gambling if they see that they're overcrowded. But on the other hand, they might also think that they'll be ending up in that facility being detained because of having a serious problem that needs to get resolved and that's their gambling addiction. In the circle of friends and families, we often see that no one wants to get teased of being sent to it when they're in that problem because it's shameful to be known that going there will be spread like a wildfire to the common friends and relatives. I mean this is for a personal overview because this seems to be a norm in our neighborhood and community.

You are talking about the stigma and discrimination that comes with being someone who had been rehabilitated before? If this is what you are talking about, then you are absolutely right.

Personally though, away from that which I've said before in my previous comment on this issue, I think the fear of the stigma and discrimination that goes with being someone who had been rehabilitated before keeps alot of gamblers on their toes, making them to keep a watchful eyes to make sure they are always aware of themselves when ever they are gambling to avoid ever being sent to a rehab, this saves more gamblers from getting addicted to gambling than even the absence of nearby rehab facilities, because I've seen a family transport one their loved one who is addicted to gambling to a rehab right from the village to a very far distance where they found a rehabilitation center for the loved one, so this tells us that lack of rehab facilities in the developing city isnt a enough reason why there should be more gambling in such a city.

[bitmover]

I was thinking about KYC policy in betfury.

I have been reading the terms, and I see that KYC is sometimes required (https://docs.betfury.com/betfury/account/deposit-and-withdrawal#crypto-withdrawal)

Is there a safe limit without KYC? I see they mention 700 EUR. Is that a clear limit? Monthly limit? How does it work?

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I was thinking about KYC policy in betfury.

I have been reading the terms, and I see that KYC is sometimes required (https://docs.betfury.com/betfury/account/deposit-and-withdrawal#crypto-withdrawal)

Is there a safe limit without KYC? I see they mention 700 EUR. Is that a clear limit? Monthly limit? How does it work?

Well, I don't know very much about the current BetFury since it's been quite a long time since I last played on this casino, but based on my personal understanding of the previous betfury I was used to, i wasnt sure of any amount but if they mentioned €700 in their kyc terms, then I think that is a clear limit, that is, this is the limit or the highest amount of money you can be able to withdraw per 24 hours as an unverifed user, any amount higher than this will require that you pass kyc verification..

Please note that I am not very or 100 percent sure of this though, I am simply assuming based on my experience since I last played on this casino, which is like 3 years of ago if I am not mistaken, it's normal that alot of things might or may have changed with the casino since then.

[iv4n]

Is there a safe limit without KYC? I see they mention 700 EUR. Is that a clear limit? Monthly limit? How does it work?

I have been playing since day one, back then they had a few games, they didn't have a license, but they were among the first where you could mine casino tokens by playing. I don't know how many deposits/withdrawals were over $1k, but there were quite a few. Many more were under that... I'm still playing without KYC and without any other issues.

It's how it works works for me...

[blockman]

Possibly. The exposure that these facilities give to the people will help more people to be scared of getting addicted in gambling if they see that they're overcrowded. But on the other hand, they might also think that they'll be ending up in that facility being detained because of having a serious problem that needs to get resolved and that's their gambling addiction. In the circle of friends and families, we often see that no one wants to get teased of being sent to it when they're in that problem because it's shameful to be known that going there will be spread like a wildfire to the common friends and relatives. I mean this is for a personal overview because this seems to be a norm in our neighborhood and community.

You are talking about the stigma and discrimination that comes with being someone who had been rehabilitated before? If this is what you are talking about, then you are absolutely right.

Personally though, away from that which I've said before in my previous comment on this issue, I think the fear of the stigma and discrimination that goes with being someone who had been rehabilitated before keeps alot of gamblers on their toes, making them to keep a watchful eyes to make sure they are always aware of themselves when ever they are gambling to avoid ever being sent to a rehab, this saves more gamblers from getting addicted to gambling than even the absence of nearby rehab facilities, because I've seen a family transport one their loved one who is addicted to gambling to a rehab right from the village to a very far distance where they found a rehabilitation center for the loved one, so this tells us that lack of rehab facilities in the developing city isnt a enough reason why there should be more gambling in such a city.

It happens here in our country and that's why if there are rehabilitation for gambling addicts, there will be surely an impact, good and bad personally and to the society. It can't be removed whenever a person comes from that facility and the society sees that guy again, the fear is there and depending on how they knew the guy.

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[Don Pedro Dinero]

Is there a safe limit without KYC? I see they mention 700 EUR. Is that a clear limit? Monthly limit? How does it work?

I don't know about the exact amount but according to the ToS:

5.2. Before using the Service, you must personally complete the registration form and read and accept these Terms. We may require you to become a verified Customer which includes passing certain checks.

Basically you will be able to deposit a certain amount but if you want to gamble it you'll have to complete KYC level 1, which consists of simply filling in a form but with your full name address and stuff. At a later stage or of you go above certain limits you might be asked to provide docs to prove the data you wrote on the form.

I have been playing since day one, back then they had a few games, they didn't have a license, but they were among the first where you could mine casino tokens by playing. I don't know how many deposits/withdrawals were over $1k, but there were quite a few. Many more were under that... I'm still playing without KYC and without any other issues.

It's how it works works for me...

I don't know why that didn't work that way for me, then. Maybe because I joined at a later date.

[Numeral]

I was thinking about KYC policy in betfury.

I have been reading the terms, and I see that KYC is sometimes required (https://docs.betfury.com/betfury/account/deposit-and-withdrawal#crypto-withdrawal)

Is there a safe limit without KYC? I see they mention 700 EUR. Is that a clear limit? Monthly limit? How does it work?

It talks about the limits of €700 - €1,000 in the context of buying cryptocurrencies through certain systems, they are listed there, it is also noted that new payment systems have been added for use. So, in order to buy cryptocurrency through them, you need to pay attention to the limit, and if you need to deposit €700 - €1,000 in one transaction into your BetFury account using these systems, then you will need to go through KYC. And here they are talking specifically about deposits, not withdrawals. 

[leonair]

I was thinking about KYC policy in betfury.

I have been reading the terms, and I see that KYC is sometimes required (https://docs.betfury.com/betfury/account/deposit-and-withdrawal#crypto-withdrawal)

Is there a safe limit without KYC? I see they mention 700 EUR. Is that a clear limit? Monthly limit? How does it work?

It talks about the limits of €700 - €1,000 in the context of buying cryptocurrencies through certain systems, they are listed there, it is also noted that new payment systems have been added for use. So, in order to buy cryptocurrency through them, you need to pay attention to the limit, and if you need to deposit €700 - €1,000 in one transaction into your BetFury account using these systems, then you will need to go through KYC. And here they are talking specifically about deposits, not withdrawals. 

€700-€1000 is not a small amount to gamble without KYC. And if someone wants to deposit more than this amount and gamble, he is undoubtedly a regular gambler. And a regular gambler should definitely do KYC verification to continue gambling. Because if he is lucky while gambling regularly, he can win something big at some point. And if he wins a big jackpot, he will definitely have to do KYC verification to withdraw that money. So, one should do KYC verification in advance and start gambling if that site is trustworthy. I don't think there is any problem with doing KYC on a trusted site.

[Numeral]

It talks about the limits of €700 - €1,000 in the context of buying cryptocurrencies through certain systems, they are listed there, it is also noted that new payment systems have been added for use. So, in order to buy cryptocurrency through them, you need to pay attention to the limit, and if you need to deposit €700 - €1,000 in one transaction into your BetFury account using these systems, then you will need to go through KYC. And here they are talking specifically about deposits, not withdrawals. 

€700-€1000 is not a small amount to gamble without KYC. And if someone wants to deposit more than this amount and gamble, he is undoubtedly a regular gambler. And a regular gambler should definitely do KYC verification to continue gambling. Because if he is lucky while gambling regularly, he can win something big at some point. And if he wins a big jackpot, he will definitely have to do KYC verification to withdraw that money. So, one should do KYC verification in advance and start gambling if that site is trustworthy. I don't think there is any problem with doing KYC on a trusted site.

There are no problems with passing KYC. It's just that above we talked about whether it is necessary to go through KYC at all, in order to withdraw from the BetFury platform won money, well, or their deposits for some reason. There are people who categorically do not accept the KYC procedure and for them it is fundamental that there are no serious restrictions from the service, preventing comfortable interaction with the platform. Here we have read the reference materials from BetFury and found no restrictions on withdrawals for users without KYC.

[Taskford]

€700-€1000 is not a small amount to gamble without KYC. And if someone wants to deposit more than this amount and gamble, he is undoubtedly a regular gambler. And a regular gambler should definitely do KYC verification to continue gambling. Because if he is lucky while gambling regularly, he can win something big at some point. And if he wins a big jackpot, he will definitely have to do KYC verification to withdraw that money. So, one should do KYC verification in advance and start gambling if that site is trustworthy. I don't think there is any problem with doing KYC on a trusted site.

There are no problems with passing KYC. It's just that above we talked about whether it is necessary to go through KYC at all, in order to withdraw from the BetFury platform won money, well, or their deposits for some reason. There are people who categorically do not accept the KYC procedure and for them it is fundamental that there are no serious restrictions from the service, preventing comfortable interaction with the platform. Here we have read the reference materials from BetFury and found no restrictions on withdrawals for users without KYC.

I don't know if there's changes happened but if there's confusion regarding on KYC matter I guess the rightful person who can answer this is their support. Since if we just pick up the opinion of people regarding on that situation then I guess that we are getting another speculation which might confuse us again.

Also I don't have any problem submitting KYC on Betfury since somehow they are already reputable casino.

If they ask this when I request withdrawal on the amount mentioned or maybe higher I will comply and didn't bother to ask why since somehow I understand that KYC is normal nowadays.