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[blockman]

From technical developments to projects like Digicash (1989), Cybercash (1994), E-gold (1996), HashCash (1997), Bit-Gold (1998), B-Money (1998), and BitTorrent (2001).
Those prehistoric coins laid foundations for more developments and a first successful digital currency, Bitcoin, with its genesis block mined in 3 January 2009.

I think that satoshi did really got his inspiration and based Bitcoin from most of these innovation of early invention of digicash. AFAIK, it was David Chaum's work for the digicash but it didn't nourished on 1998 and filed for bankruptcy. It's bad that it didn't got so much attention because that was the start of internet. But there is a reason why it didn't became popular and so people have looked for Bitcoin when satoshi has launched it and this is the electronic money that have became successful and is now followed by a bunch of other cryptos.

[franzzor1]

very opaque and shady casino, don't waste your crypto on betfury

[Wonder Work]

very opaque and shady casino, don't waste your crypto on betfury

What... what is this? Anything is wrong? Why you say this talk? Why? Explain here.. what is your problem?

Why are you randomly spreading such false slander? What problems are you facing while playing the game? If you tell us about them here, you will definitely get the solution. BetFury.com  project manager is here and there are many other respected people who understand your problem well. If you explain it here, you will definitely get a good solution from here. But if you don't do this, don't spread false propaganda like this. Thank you.

[OcTradism]

What... what is this? Anything is wrong? Why you say this talk? Why? Explain here.. what is your problem?

Why are you randomly spreading such false slander? What problems are you facing while playing the game? If you tell us about them here, you will definitely get the solution. BetFury.com  project manager is here and there are many other respected people who understand your problem well. If you explain it here, you will definitely get a good solution from here. But if you don't do this, don't spread false propaganda like this. Thank you.

A post like this is not enough for any accusation. No proof, no details, the post is invalid as an accusation.

Until a time the poster comes back with more details, this post can be considered as an invalid accusation and a troll. Don't feed the troll until more details provided, and if the poster just disappear after this post, it will turn to be a likely non sense and invalid attack against BetFurry.

Don't feed the troll.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

What... what is this? Anything is wrong? Why you say this talk? Why? Explain here.. what is your problem?

Why are you randomly spreading such false slander? What problems are you facing while playing the game? If you tell us about them here, you will definitely get the solution. BetFury.com  project manager is here and there are many other respected people who understand your problem well. If you explain it here, you will definitely get a good solution from here. But if you don't do this, don't spread false propaganda like this. Thank you.

A post like this is not enough for any accusation. No proof, no details, the post is invalid as an accusation.

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Don't feed the troll.

On top of that it comes from an account that was registered in November 2023 and has written its first two posts today. We will have to keep an eye on it because it is not uncommon for someone to open several accounts on the same day and start using one today because another one has been banned, and things like that.

[Taskford]

What... what is this? Anything is wrong? Why you say this talk? Why? Explain here.. what is your problem?

Why are you randomly spreading such false slander? What problems are you facing while playing the game? If you tell us about them here, you will definitely get the solution. BetFury.com  project manager is here and there are many other respected people who understand your problem well. If you explain it here, you will definitely get a good solution from here. But if you don't do this, don't spread false propaganda like this. Thank you.

A post like this is not enough for any accusation. No proof, no details, the post is invalid as an accusation.

Until a time the poster comes back with more details, this post can be considered as an invalid accusation and a troll. Don't feed the troll until more details provided, and if the poster just disappear after this post, it will turn to be a likely non sense and invalid attack against BetFurry.

Don't feed the troll.

Well usually that's how trolls works. They accuse the casino without bringing up something that's why usually they fail on their attacks. People nowadays are know how to determine which is legitimate accusation and which are the one will just gonna waste their time.

So for sure that the person posting that would know base on the approach made by people that he's attempt to destroy the reputation of Betfury will not gonna work.

I really like the idea ignoring them unless if they can provide those necessary proof that they are been affected with certain issues.

[dwyane36]

nope, TRX is still more expensive at 5 TRX fee compared to some other options on betfury.
i think the cheapest would be USDT on ETH or maybe LTC. the withdraw fee on both is less than $0.1 and you can easily swap them elsewhere for whatever coin you want.

Surprisingly, erc-20 transfers have become cheaper than trc-20 transfers. Honestly, I can't even remember the last time the ETH network had such low fees that are there now. So yeah, erc-20 seems to be a favorable way to deposit or withdraw from gambling platforms and exchanges right now.

[Haunebu]

Surprisingly, erc-20 transfers have become cheaper than trc-20 transfers. Honestly, I can't even remember the last time the ETH network had such low fees that are there now. So yeah, erc-20 seems to be a favorable way to deposit or withdraw from gambling platforms and exchanges right now.

Really? I wasn't aware of that since I usually use TRC-20 and Polygon chains whenever possible. Good to know. Am surprised to see the ERC-20 team taking this long to get their shit together.

I rarely pay high fees for any crypto transaction these days thanks to the plethora of great options being available to the general public and that is an epic feeling.

[iv4n]

Don't feed the troll.

I really like the idea ignoring them unless if they can provide those necessary proof that they are been affected with certain issues.

If he could present any argument or evidence then he wouldn't be a troll. There's no point in arguing with trolls - bots, they definitely shouldn't be fed and the best thing we can do is to immediately ignore them. Otherwise, we are just entering into an unnecessary and often very toxic discussion.

nope, TRX is still more expensive at 5 TRX fee compared to some other options on betfury.
i think the cheapest would be USDT on ETH or maybe LTC. the withdraw fee on both is less than $0.1 and you can easily swap them elsewhere for whatever coin you want.

Surprisingly, erc-20 transfers have become cheaper than trc-20 transfers. Honestly, I can't even remember the last time the ETH network had such low fees that are there now. So yeah, erc-20 seems to be a favorable way to deposit or withdraw from gambling platforms and exchanges right now.

I sometimes play with ETH, and indeed the transaction fees are very low. But I didn't know that was the case with ETH tokens, I haven't used them for very long. It's good to know this, thanks!

[Wonder Work]

A post like this is not enough for any accusation. No proof, no details, the post is invalid as an accusation.

Until a time the poster comes back with more details, this post can be considered as an invalid accusation and a troll. Don't feed the troll until more details provided, and if the poster just disappear after this post, it will turn to be a likely non sense and invalid attack against BetFurry.

Don't feed the troll.

This is what I thought after looking at his posts. You can see when his account was created and he made such a false and misleading post today. He is not encouraging trolls to comment here; he cannot leave without saying something. If there were a problem, he would have explained it. If he did, he directly posted something like that.

On top of that it comes from an account that was registered in November 2023 and has written its first two posts today. We will have to keep an eye on it because it is not uncommon for someone to open several accounts on the same day and start using one today because another one has been banned, and things like that.

Yes, they come here to troll, I don't understand anything, they came here without any reasonable reason, they posted and left. It is necessary to keep an eye on the accounts and determine their movements, otherwise they will spread this kind of propaganda.

[Zwei]

Ahhh... maybe a cool name could be... Orange Coin (because of that iconic orange logo).

not cool... i'm forever cursed as every time i read/hear "orange something" it reminds me of one orange man who is fucking up the world right now. (someone please get it out of my head, lol)

I really like the idea ignoring them unless if they can provide those necessary proof that they are been affected with certain issues.

If he could present any argument or evidence then he wouldn't be a troll. There's no point in arguing with trolls - bots, they definitely shouldn't be fed and the best thing we can do is to immediately ignore them. Otherwise, we are just entering into an unnecessary and often very toxic discussion.

that's really the only way to deal with trolls.
there was another one who just gave up after being ignored and being trolled back.

I sometimes play with ETH, and indeed the transaction fees are very low. But I didn't know that was the case with ETH tokens, I haven't used them for very long. It's good to know this, thanks!

one could argue that's because no one using ETH anymore, lol.
but yeah, fees have gotten lower and lower over the past few months, so the network is actually usable again for us poor people.

[babygun]

nope, TRX is still more expensive at 5 TRX fee compared to some other options on betfury.
i think the cheapest would be USDT on ETH or maybe LTC. the withdraw fee on both is less than $0.1 and you can easily swap them elsewhere for whatever coin you want.

Surprisingly, erc-20 transfers have become cheaper than trc-20 transfers. Honestly, I can't even remember the last time the ETH network had such low fees that are there now. So yeah, erc-20 seems to be a favorable way to deposit or withdraw from gambling platforms and exchanges right now.

Yeah, I noticed the same some time ago. Funny how things can change. A year ago, I would always use TRX for withdrawals due to the very low fees but after their price hike, it is is more beneficial to use the erc-20 network. In the beginning, I would never wanted to use that network as their fees were ridiculous high.

[Youngrebel]

The only place you'll find cheap Bitcoin fees is with self-custody wallets like electrum, sparrow, bitcoin core...

I agree with you though for now I am using only electrum and it is very good to use and easy. The transaction fee is very cheap. When I wanted to make a transaction this morning, it was 5.5 say/vbyte, mining fee was 0.000006 BTC (0.56 USD) and the target was 25 blocks.
But if it was custodial wallets, the transaction fee would have been $13+. So it is good to used self custodial wallets.

[Rruchi man]

very opaque and shady casino, don't waste your crypto on betfury

It will be your opinion on Betfury against the bulk of us who have actually tested the services of Betfury and have seen that they are a casino that means business.

If perhaps you experienced a problem while using the platform, and you were unable to get help to resolve it, just go ahead and share the challenge and problem with us. Trying to ruin the image of Betfury is not the way to go about it.

[I_Anime]

The only place you'll find cheap Bitcoin fees is with self-custody wallets like electrum, sparrow, bitcoin core...

I agree with you though for now I am using only electrum and it is very good to use and easy. The transaction fee is very cheap. When I wanted to make a transaction this morning, it was 5.5 say/vbyte, mining fee was 0.000006 BTC (0.56 USD) and the target was 25 blocks.
But if it was custodial wallets, the transaction fee would have been $13+. So it is good to used self custodial wallets.

Blue wallet also good am also fan of electrum but blue wallet also fast with some nice fees, like today when I checked it was 2sat/byte which is 0.00000292 , so you can see that it also have some nice fee rate most time exchange usually the one that usually take much fees , but non custodial wallet always have the best fee ( cheaper fees).

nope, TRX is still more expensive at 5 TRX fee compared to some other options on betfury.
i think the cheapest would be USDT on ETH or maybe LTC. the withdraw fee on both is less than $0.1 and you can easily swap them elsewhere for whatever coin you want.

Surprisingly, erc-20 transfers have become cheaper than trc-20 transfers. Honestly, I can't even remember the last time the ETH network had such low fees that are there now. So yeah, erc-20 seems to be a favorable way to deposit or withdraw from gambling platforms and exchanges right now.

Yeah, I noticed the same some time ago. Funny how things can change. A year ago, I would always use TRX for withdrawals due to the very low fees but after their price hike, it is is more beneficial to use the erc-20 network. In the beginning, I would never wanted to use that network as their fees were ridiculous high.

Same here then I was fan of TRX due to cheap fee and all that but now the surge in price as changed things, now I rather use LTC but some time it do takes time when am trying to make payment or transferring it , and it’s suppose to be fast but it do take some time especially in exchanges.

[Forsyth Jones]

Yeah, I noticed the same some time ago. Funny how things can change. A year ago, I would always use TRX for withdrawals due to the very low fees but after their price hike, it is is more beneficial to use the erc-20 network. In the beginning, I would never wanted to use that network as their fees were ridiculous high.

I've never used any coin other than LTC to make withdrawals from Bybit or BetFury. I use eXch (which unfortunately will cease to exist) to swap back to BTC for my wallet. What advantage would ETH or other currencies lite TRX have over this?

Blue wallet also good am also fan of electrum but blue wallet also fast with some nice fees, like today when I checked it was 2sat/byte which is 0.00000292 , so you can see that it also have some nice fee rate most time exchange usually the one that usually take much fees , but non custodial wallet always have the best fee ( cheaper fees).

I agree with you though for now I am using only electrum and it is very good to use and easy. The transaction fee is very cheap. When I wanted to make a transaction this morning, it was 5.5 say/vbyte, mining fee was 0.000006 BTC (0.56 USD) and the target was 25 blocks.
But if it was custodial wallets, the transaction fee would have been $13+. So it is good to used self custodial wallets.

You guys are my kind of people! You use great wallets and you can manually set the fee rate in sat/B in Electrum. I'll leave a tutorial here to help you out: Make sure to avoid wasting BTC for too high fees – step by step guide (Electrum)

Same here then I was fan of TRX due to cheap fee and all that but now the surge in price as changed things, now I rather use LTC but some time it do takes time when am trying to make payment or transferring it , and it’s suppose to be fast but it do take some time especially in exchanges.

I've never experienced slowdowns when trading LTC, what's your expected ETA? Are you used to swapping with other faster tokens?

[philipma1957]

What... what is this? Anything is wrong? Why you say this talk? Why? Explain here.. what is your problem?

Why are you randomly spreading such false slander? What problems are you facing while playing the game? If you tell us about them here, you will definitely get the solution. BetFury.com  project manager is here and there are many other respected people who understand your problem well. If you explain it here, you will definitely get a good solution from here. But if you don't do this, don't spread false propaganda like this. Thank you.

A post like this is not enough for any accusation. No proof, no details, the post is invalid as an accusation.

Until a time the poster comes back with more details, this post can be considered as an invalid accusation and a troll. Don't feed the troll until more details provided, and if the poster just disappear after this post, it will turn to be a likely non sense and invalid attack against BetFurry.

Don't feed the troll.

I like to watch the troll so far 2 posts after 20 or more I get an idea if tagging them is worth while.

[I_Anime]

Yeah, I noticed the same some time ago. Funny how things can change. A year ago, I would always use TRX for withdrawals due to the very low fees but after their price hike, it is is more beneficial to use the erc-20 network. In the beginning, I would never wanted to use that network as their fees were ridiculous high.

I've never used any coin other than LTC to make withdrawals from Bybit or BetFury. I use eXch (which unfortunately will cease to exist) to swap back to BTC for my wallet. What advantage would ETH or other currencies lite TRX have over this?

Blue wallet also good am also fan of electrum but blue wallet also fast with some nice fees, like today when I checked it was 2sat/byte which is 0.00000292 , so you can see that it also have some nice fee rate most time exchange usually the one that usually take much fees , but non custodial wallet always have the best fee ( cheaper fees).

I agree with you though for now I am using only electrum and it is very good to use and easy. The transaction fee is very cheap. When I wanted to make a transaction this morning, it was 5.5 say/vbyte, mining fee was 0.000006 BTC (0.56 USD) and the target was 25 blocks.
But if it was custodial wallets, the transaction fee would have been $13+. So it is good to used self custodial wallets.

You guys are my kind of people! You use great wallets and you can manually set the fee rate in sat/B in Electrum. I'll leave a tutorial here to help you out: Make sure to avoid wasting BTC for too high fees – step by step guide (Electrum)

Same here then I was fan of TRX due to cheap fee and all that but now the surge in price as changed things, now I rather use LTC but some time it do takes time when am trying to make payment or transferring it , and it’s suppose to be fast but it do take some time especially in exchanges.

I've never experienced slowdowns when trading LTC, what's your expected ETA? Are you used to swapping with other faster tokens?

My expected ETA is usually 5 mins  but it usually takes more than that when am using LTC (from exchanges like binance , bybite etc) . Like solana don’t usually takes long , let me say 5 mins already in my wallet . But still prefer LTC , the fee just so encouraging.

And also Thanks for the link. It will be a great help — not just for us, but also for anyone who struggles with manually setting the fee rate in their Bitcoin wallet.

[Pmalek]

Surprisingly, erc-20 transfers have become cheaper than trc-20 transfers. Honestly, I can't even remember the last time the ETH network had such low fees that are there now. So yeah, erc-20 seems to be a favorable way to deposit or withdraw from gambling platforms and exchanges right now.

I am surprised that the Tron team isn't doing anything to adjust their standard network fees that have been at the same levels for several years already. If you send from a non-custodial wallet to an address that doesn't hold any TRX, you are required to pay over 26 TRX in transaction fees. That's over $6. Even if the destination address holds TRX, you pay more than $3 in fees. My guess is that they don't care. They have enough traffic on the network and they make so much money that they don't care about lowering the network fees and making Tron more competitive. 

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