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[babygun]

We got smashed yesterday with the below! 



https://twitter.com/Duelbits/status/1639592605968154624

Congrats to the player! That's a life-changing win.

That’s a massive win indeed but this guy must be a highroller as his stake was 10,000$ on 7 fold multibet. Chances you would win this are very low and I wonder what his ROI will be on the long term if he mainly places bets like this.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Well yes, sometimes things can get out of control, but it is never good to chase a profit when you have had many losses, this is when it comes out related to the intelligent game, all intelligent game is what we must apply and intelligence includes give the exact amount of what you have in money willing to spend in a casino, and if you spend everything, respect that you should not put more money because it would go against our own rules, and if we do not respect our own rules, we will not be You can expect nothing good, it is something called self-discipline and in casinos it is crucial to have it.

Well. It’s really hard to chase a profit when you had many losses because you are already in negative. You will need to chase lose before you even chase profit on this instance.  

Besides chasing anything is not good because it will just pressure you to play without thinking carefully because you are too focus on chasing instead of just playing without string attached. Human error is always at play whenever we are rushing things that’s why chasing profit or lose at any conditions you have is not good.

It is like that, but it seems incredible to me that I have friends who have a history in casinos, where they themselves have control through an eel sheet, there they have all the control and even in the way they played so as not to repeat it and fall into the same mistake, most of them tell me that losses are very difficult to recover, not even playing the best games and winning, because they have previously made mistakes that they should not have made, these things are very difficult to do in a casino, Therefore, when we talk about casinos and games, losses and profits, it is very normal for players to have a history of losses greater than their history of winnings.

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If I remember it correctly, the biggest transaction fee that I have encountered in Duelbits was around $5 or $10, I really forgot the exact amount but it was on Bitcoin that time (@ around $60k value).
For the times of a day on the other hand,  I think it's possible and would depend on the traffic.

This is actually very important, because it makes casino owners think that they have to take into consideration if bitcoin becomes worth $100k or more, the fees are going to be very high and that will be a problem, apart from traffic. It is something that can affect much more, congestion is something that affects too much, so one of the options is that they easily implement withdrawal by LN, it is a good option and they should analyze it in order to resolve it.

[BitcoinHunt3r]

That’s a massive win indeed but this guy must be a highroller as his stake was 10,000$ on 7 fold multibet. Chances you would win this are very low and I wonder what his ROI will be on the long term if he mainly places bets like this.

Nobody knows how he ends maybe only the casino knows his statistics, for us this is an impressive win but for him this is a normal win
I assume that in one bet he spends $10K then the bankroll should be at least 10x of this bet that's the most reasonable reason
It's not easy to win with parlay bets even with 3 teams still difficult while he added 7 teams to the bet slip LOL very impressive
What I am curious is whether he is professional or just relying on luck   

[BitcoinPanther]

On-chain transaction fees are always one of painful experience for blockchain users including gamblers. It is similar to Play-to-Earn games on expensive chains like Etheruem ERC-20 chain and maybe Binance Smart Chain some weeks when BNB hit $500 to $550.

When there are lot of transactions then the fees goes up really high and players find it hard to afford specially at the ETH network because for a small transfer also you have to pay huge gas and big whales in order to confirm their tx pay double or more then average which boost the fees even more.But yes you can surely try it on weekends when there is less volume but it's open 24*7 so can't say it will stand true.

It’s nonsense to use ERC20 tokens to play on Duelbits because it automatically converts all deposits to fiat. User will just waste expensive gas fee if they will use ERC20 which is known for high transaction for gambling purposes while they can use other small fee tokens to deposit and withdraw.

Isn't ERC20 token gas fee already trimmed down?  As far as I know they are not that expensive anymore.  The last time I transact ERC20 token, the gas fee is less than $2.  Even on the tracker the gas fee isnt that much as it was before.

Besides the difference in fees during weekends or peek hours is not that huge unless you are playing with a balance that is just the minimum amount to withdraw. Nevertheless user should not use ERC20 in general if their balance is so small. ERC20 nowadays are for whales user only since most of the tokens is available on different blockchain due to the existence of bridge.

Not really, they are cheaper than before and even minnows can afford the gas fee now.  But of course, if there is an option to transact in much cheaper fee, that should be the choice.

That’s a massive win indeed but this guy must be a highroller as his stake was 10,000$ on 7 fold multibet. Chances you would win this are very low and I wonder what his ROI will be on the long term if he mainly places bets like this.

Nobody knows how he ends maybe only the casino knows his statistics, for us this is an impressive win but for him this is a normal win
I assume that in one bet he spends $10K then the bankroll should be at least 10x of this bet that's the most reasonable reason
It's not easy to win with parlay bets even with 3 teams still difficult while he added 7 teams to the bet slip LOL very impressive

It was indeed a huge win but comparing the input and output ratio, the multiplier isn't that huge.  It is only 50x+ since the stake is $10k and the winnings is $500k+.

What I am curious is whether he is professional or just relying on luck   

I can guess the guy is a veteran.  He has the courage of putting $10k at stake and won the parlay.  I don't think it is only a lucky streak.

[MusaMohamed]

Congrats to the player! That's a life-changing win.

Congrats to the winner too!

It is actually a life-changing win but it is a great evidence for legitimacy of Duelbits when they were ready to pay for that winner and paid it smoothly.

May I know that is it an all time high won bet on Duelbits?

We got smashed yesterday with the below! 



https://twitter.com/Duelbits/status/1639592605968154624

It is a big win from $10,000 initial bet to final win around $550k. It's x55 win for the winner. The user would be rich enough to make that $10,000 bet and were afford to lose $10,000 by betting.

[wxa7115]

That’s a massive win indeed but this guy must be a highroller as his stake was 10,000$ on 7 fold multibet. Chances you would win this are very low and I wonder what his ROI will be on the long term if he mainly places bets like this.

Nobody knows how he ends maybe only the casino knows his statistics, for us this is an impressive win but for him this is a normal win
I assume that in one bet he spends $10K then the bankroll should be at least 10x of this bet that's the most reasonable reason
It's not easy to win with parlay bets even with 3 teams still difficult while he added 7 teams to the bet slip LOL very impressive
What I am curious is whether he is professional or just relying on luck   

That is what I was thinking as well, this is the kind of win that would be huge for those that are not really used to making such a high bet, but most likely this gambler is used to bet that kind of money and if anything the amount won could not be a big deal for them.

Still the odds of winning that bet were very low so without a doubt the gambler must have some skill when it comes to sport betting, as I find difficult to believe someone can win such a parlay by luck alone.

[babygun]

That is what I was thinking as well, this is the kind of win that would be huge for those that are not really used to making such a high bet, but most likely this gambler is used to bet that kind of money and if anything the amount won could not be a big deal for them.

Still the odds of winning that bet were very low so without a doubt the gambler must have some skill when it comes to sport betting, as I find difficult to believe someone can win such a parlay by luck alone.

It is maybe a combination of knowledge and luck but mainly luck in my eyes lol; with these kind of multibets something always can go wrong. He probably knows something about NBA and placed handicap bets on the favorites of all games. But as you mention, this is a very nice amount but probably not life changing for gamblers like this.

[Beparanf]

It is a big win from $10,000 initial bet to final win around $550k. It's x55 win for the winner. The user would be rich enough to make that $10,000 bet and were afford to lose $10,000 by betting.

Not to mention that this guy bet 10K on a parlay bet with 55 odds with spread points on all the match included. He probably doing this bet multiple times and successfully win one of his parlay. A person that doing a normal high bet will definitely not gonna place that huge amount on a single parlay.

He is very lucky to this bet because NBA matches during near playoffs season is usually very unpredictable since team is motivated to qualify.

[tusandii]

A minor tip is you can observe distribution of transaction fee on each chain and see within what hours, transaction fee will be usually cheaper than other hours. Weekends will have less activities on chains so on weekends, you can have cheaper transaction fee than on other days.

Is it true that there are certain times that provide lower transaction fees?
All this time I did not know about this because when making each transaction I did not really pay attention to the fees I had to pay.
After all, I am a small gambler, so every transaction I make is never with a large enough nominal amount so that the costs I need to pay are relatively low.
If indeed this is real, maybe it can be a reference for me later if one day I get a big win and want to withdraw all of my winnings so I can save on transaction fees.

Might be possible that you are not paying attention since you are enjoying that you have something to cashout and like you, I'm also a small time gambler and if by chance that I can withdraw nothing to think but to transfer the fund.

But it's really a good headsup in case by luck and by chance a huge amount can be collected then
it's very usable to wait for that before transferring the winning amount to pay less with the fees.

Yes, I didn't pay attention to it because it has a small amount of winnings or the amount of profit money, so what the cost of each transaction is, I never paid attention to it.
Maybe this is a mistake and a loss for me so far because I didn't know where to save more money that I spent on transaction fees.
To be honest, this is the first time I've heard of it.

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I am not sure what you mean exactly when you say "times". Do you mean part of the day, like in the morning or evening? Or part of the week (business days, weekends)?

What I mean by certain times is hours, days or even weekends to make each transaction in order to get less fees as stated by @blackboss.
I didn't understand before and in my previous opinion it was clearly written if I asked whether it was true that different times determined the transaction fees were true and real.
This is quite useful information in my opinion if it is true and real.

[len01]

It is a big win from $10,000 initial bet to final win around $550k. It's x55 win for the winner. The user would be rich enough to make that $10,000 bet and were afford to lose $10,000 by betting.

Not to mention that this guy bet 10K on a parlay bet with 55 odds with spread points on all the match included. He probably doing this bet multiple times and successfully win one of his parlay. A person that doing a normal high bet will definitely not gonna place that huge amount on a single parlay.

He is very lucky to this bet because NBA matches during near playoffs season is usually very unpredictable since team is motivated to qualify.

he's really very lucky bro with parlay bets it's very difficult when one of the chosen ones loses he will lose all his money and it's a very large amount of $ 10k.
surely everyone here has experienced a multi or parlay bet which is so difficult to get that win when the prediction of one of the teams is not correct.

winning a parlay bet with an amount of $ 523k is very big, he is really lucky or maybe he is a professional gambler who has knowledge in sports betting such as the NBA.

from this person's winning quote, it makes all gamblers even more convinced that luck in gambling is always there.

[Coin_trader]

It’s nonsense to use ERC20 tokens to play on Duelbits because it automatically converts all deposits to fiat. User will just waste expensive gas fee if they will use ERC20 which is known for high transaction for gambling purposes while they can use other small fee tokens to deposit and withdraw.

Isn't ERC20 token gas fee already trimmed down?  As far as I know they are not that expensive anymore.  The last time I transact ERC20 token, the gas fee is less than $2.  Even on the tracker the gas fee isnt that much as it was before.

I check Duelbits withdrawal right after reading this and the fee is indeed lower but still 0.7$ is still high compared when using DOGE or XRP which cost a cents. I’m not aware that Ethereum gas fee decreases a lot. I stop using this token long time ago for gambling purposes because it’s really not economical even with current rate.

Besides the difference in fees during weekends or peek hours is not that huge unless you are playing with a balance that is just the minimum amount to withdraw. Nevertheless user should not use ERC20 in general if their balance is so small. ERC20 nowadays are for whales user only since most of the tokens is available on different blockchain due to the existence of bridge.

Not really, they are cheaper than before and even minnows can afford the gas fee now.  But of course, if there is an option to transact in much cheaper fee, that should be the choice.

Yeah, As I already mention. Duelbits converts all crypto deposits to Fiat meaning you can use any currency to deposit and using ERC20 despite there’s a lot of cheaper transaction fee token available is not economical especially on low bankroll player that every penny counts. But yeah, This is already negligible on normal player. Thanks!

[Pmalek]

What I mean by certain times is hours, days or even weekends to make each transaction in order to get less fees as stated by @blackboss.
I didn't understand before and in my previous opinion it was clearly written if I asked whether it was true that different times determined the transaction fees were true and real.

If you are using Bitcoin, you can still get slightly lower fees on the weekend, but like I mentioned earlier, Ordinals have pretty much made the cheapest of BTC transactions impossible nowadays. Right now, we have close to 50k of unconfirmed transactions. It wasn't uncommon that this number was down to 1-3k a few months ago, but not anymore. But if you are using alternative chains that have cheaper fees and quicker block times anyways, I wouldn't concern myself about the time you make your transaction.   

[Haunebu]

winning a parlay bet with an amount of $ 523k is very big, he is really lucky or maybe he is a professional gambler who has knowledge in sports betting such as the NBA.

He could also be a professional punter who got extremely luck since NBA is viewed as an unpredictable sport because of so many upsets when compared to college basketball which is way more predictable in comparison.

x55 isn't really a big multiplier to be frank, but the bet of 10 grand was really high. High risk, high reward basically.

[Duelbits_Marketing]

Congrats to the player! That's a life-changing win.

Congrats to the winner too!

It is actually a life-changing win but it is a great evidence for legitimacy of Duelbits when they were ready to pay for that winner and paid it smoothly.

May I know if it is an all-time high won bet on Duelbits?

We got smashed yesterday with the below! 



https://twitter.com/Duelbits/status/1639592605968154624

It is a big win from $10,000 initial bet to final win around $550k. It's x55 win for the winner. The user would be rich enough to make that $10,000 bet and were afford to lose $10,000 by betting.

We actually had higher winnings on both Sports and Casino, but we always like to share the big wins and celebrate with our players.

[worle1bm]

winning a parlay bet with an amount of $ 523k is very big, he is really lucky or maybe he is a professional gambler who has knowledge in sports betting such as the NBA.

When a player is betting $10k then he surely is taking a big risk and we can make assumptions that he is big whale so he is ready to loose that amount.Second he must be having knowledge also about the players otherwise risking this amount in sports betting doesn't work.But surely luck favours him and he has made big win out of this match with x55 hit and now he must be enjoying his time gambling  This is how luck can shower profits on you.

[Pamadar]

winning a parlay bet with an amount of $ 523k is very big, he is really lucky or maybe he is a professional gambler who has knowledge in sports betting such as the NBA.

When a player is betting $10k then he surely is taking a big risk and we can make assumptions that he is big whale so he is ready to loose that amount.Second he must be having knowledge also about the players otherwise risking this amount in sports betting doesn't work.But surely luck favours him and he has made big win out of this match with x55 hit and now he must be enjoying his time gambling  This is how luck can shower profits on you.

Yes, aside from knowledge, that kind of parlay and the amount that he bet with is something which we can say that the experienced is really something that influenced him to make this bet.

Plus the luck that back him up after sorting and researching for such kind of bet selections.
Very lucky to enjoy a huge amount of profits from that kind of parlay that he win.

[redsun114]

the casino owner has the right to provide any conditions to get the bonus that we will get even though we are forced to play in games that we may not like. we as customers if we want to get certain bonuses must comply with these requirements and we are indeed required to do whatever has been written in the bonus conditions.
if indeed sometimes we are not comfortable with the terms and conditions that must be done it is better not to do that than later to lose a few dollars just to play in a game you don't like.

Yeah, most people do not really understand about the rules of a casino or even changing the rules of a casino as well. Like let's say you get 20% back at some place, and they change it to 10%, that doesn't mean they are a "scam" or something, that just means the business found it too expensive to keep that  going and decided they rather cut it down a bit to make it more profitable, which is understandable.

I personally believe that the best thing to do is to either follow a casinos rules if you like it, and if you do not like the rules just leave and go somewhere else. No point in staying at the same place and arguing about the rules the casino itself put in place.

[Slow death]

That’s a massive win indeed but this guy must be a highroller as his stake was 10,000$ on 7 fold multibet. Chances you would win this are very low and I wonder what his ROI will be on the long term if he mainly places bets like this.

when a person manages to take 10,000$ and makes multibet bets then we are facing a very rich person who can afford to bet with very high amounts of money, it would be very interesting if the casino could show us his statistics so that we can see how many times he has bet with 10,000$, how many losses and wins he had until today, that would help and we can see if the guy is in profit or if he is in losses and we could also see if the guy is or is not a professional bettor.

professional bettors have hardly been making multibet bets and constantly, while guys who have some knowledge about the game and want to test their luck have been making multibet bets constantly, but they don't have a very large number of wins, their advantage is that with multibet bets odds of more than @5.00 is profitable in the long run, but we don't know if that's the case for this guy who won that amount of money

[Fivestar4everMVP]

the casino owner has the right to provide any conditions to get the bonus that we will get even though we are forced to play in games that we may not like. we as customers if we want to get certain bonuses must comply with these requirements and we are indeed required to do whatever has been written in the bonus conditions.
if indeed sometimes we are not comfortable with the terms and conditions that must be done it is better not to do that than later to lose a few dollars just to play in a game you don't like.

Yeah, most people do not really understand about the rules of a casino or even changing the rules of a casino as well. Like let's say you get 20% back at some place, and they change it to 10%, that doesn't mean they are a "scam" or something, that just means the business found it too expensive to keep that  going and decided they rather cut it down a bit to make it more profitable, which is understandable.

I personally believe that the best thing to do is to either follow a casinos rules if you like it, and if you do not like the rules just leave and go somewhere else. No point in staying at the same place and arguing about the rules the casino itself put in place.

When ever there is such a significant change in the rule, the casino owe it to its community of gamblers to put such changes in a public announcement, atleast, this is what I know that some major platforms do, when ever there is any change in their terms of service /rules, they let their community know that their terms of service/rules have been updated, and the highlight the parts that were adjusted so that those who might not have the time to read the entire terms of service again will easily get themselves in the know of the new update.

There are several casino that keep adjusting their terms of service almost every week, but do not inform their community about it, this is a very suspicious activity and highly unprofessional.

[BitcoinPanther]

It’s nonsense to use ERC20 tokens to play on Duelbits because it automatically converts all deposits to fiat. User will just waste expensive gas fee if they will use ERC20 which is known for high transaction for gambling purposes while they can use other small fee tokens to deposit and withdraw.

Isn't ERC20 token gas fee already trimmed down?  As far as I know they are not that expensive anymore.  The last time I transact ERC20 token, the gas fee is less than $2.  Even on the tracker the gas fee isnt that much as it was before.

I check Duelbits withdrawal right after reading this and the fee is indeed lower but still 0.7$ is still high compared when using DOGE or XRP which cost a cents. I’m not aware that Ethereum gas fee decreases a lot. I stop using this token long time ago for gambling purposes because it’s really not economical even with current rate.

DOGE XRP TRX are among the cheapest cryptocurrencies when it comes to transaction fee, I think ETH gas fee cannot go lower than these stated cryptocurrency.

Besides the difference in fees during weekends or peek hours is not that huge unless you are playing with a balance that is just the minimum amount to withdraw. Nevertheless user should not use ERC20 in general if their balance is so small. ERC20 nowadays are for whales user only since most of the tokens is available on different blockchain due to the existence of bridge.

Not really, they are cheaper than before and even minnows can afford the gas fee now.  But of course, if there is an option to transact in much cheaper fee, that should be the choice.

Yeah, As I already mention. Duelbits converts all crypto deposits to Fiat meaning you can use any currency to deposit and using ERC20 despite there’s a lot of cheaper transaction fee token available is not economical especially on low bankroll player that every penny counts. But yeah, This is already negligible on normal player. Thanks!

I agree, if we find a better means of moving our tokens in a cheaper way, we should always go for that.  After all there is a huge difference to have the fund to bet 1 more spin because 1 extra spin can change the course of our gameplay if we happen to trigger the bonus round on that extra spins.