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You guys create the same replies over and over, instead of trying to create drama around projects you should go and update your trash website ^^
So what's up with the red flags on all the accounts? I like how you try to back up your trash replies with the other alt accounts, but that's not going to help you.
As I heard most of the btctalk community knows about those alts, so you kinda have no voice :/ ( you are not going to bring traffic in this way, just wasting time :p )
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Dont argue with adkins idiots Kick them out
Dont let them spread their shite here
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It is not about who is writing, it is about what they are writing.
And what they write is true. Betnomi refuses to process withdrawals, every time someobdy wins they write that there is "fraudulent act". By the way, Betnomi is managing the account from cryptocafe, it is not to hard to see that one.
SO let us go back to the base:
Why is the user roonlagoon not paid? Why did you confiscate his winnings?
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February 22, 2021, 07:28:21 PM |
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SO let us go back to the base: Why is the user roonlagoon not paid? Why did you confiscate his winnings?
Until you are able to satisfy the due diligence process and including the KYC procedure. It is evident you are using false (unverifiable) information on our website. Strict adherence to the above-stated policy would imply your account be terminated permanently and all funds forfeited (Deposits and winnings) However, as an act of good faith, we are allowing you to withdraw all your deposits from our website.
The question has been answered. Rather clearly. Are you suggesting that roonlagoon has provided verified and accurate documentation to satisfy KYC requirements?? Not to mention they were given every opportunity to make the adjustments necessary to provide accurate KYC Moreover, my name /dob were mistyped to preserve anonymity on a cyrpto website while registering the account, and I cant edit it. Upon speaking to the live support he basically told me there's nothing he can do about it, but he'll forward my request to the risk department. I'm feeling very uneasy with the lack of help and information I'm being given from live support.
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They sent me an email to change my information with proper verification so hoping everything goes smoothly again.
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February 22, 2021, 07:47:23 PM |
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I received notice that the account has been closed and they will not process the withdraw. This isn't a satisfactory outcome. Months earlier on this forum they said, "We will work with you to resolve any KYC related issues". In this case they haven't worked with me to resolve the issue.
It's convenient for you to omit the action taken on our part to resolve the issue. Yes, we did say, "We will work with you to resolve any KYC-related issues" but not when you are engaged in fraudulent and exploitative actions. Regardless of that, we offered the best possible solution to you and hope you can appreciate that. Considering the activities for which you were flagged, no transaction (Deposit, Bet, or Withdrawal) should be allowed on your account Until you are able to satisfy the due diligence process and including the KYC procedure. It is evident you are using false (unverifiable) information on our website. Strict adherence to the above-stated policy would imply your account be terminated permanently and all funds forfeited (Deposits and winnings) However, as an act of good faith, we are allowing you to withdraw all your deposits from our website. Contingent on this action is a restriction on you not to create any other account on our website moving forward and confirm you agree with this decision so we don't have to relitigate the issue. We ask not much from our users but refrain from unscrupulous actions to make gains. Play fair and there will be no issues. I have a question about this situation. "Yes, we did say, "We will work with you to resolve any KYC-related issues" but not when you are engaged in fraudulent and exploitative actions. "
As far as I can judge, you can always come up with this argument to force clients to undergo with the KYC ? I think the KYC should not be a big problem at all actually, but what I am more worried about is on which grounds this comment is stated. What did the user do wrong here, since you are writing this?
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February 22, 2021, 07:56:39 PM |
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SO let us go back to the base: Why is the user roonlagoon not paid? Why did you confiscate his winnings?
Until you are able to satisfy the due diligence process and including the KYC procedure. It is evident you are using false (unverifiable) information on our website. Strict adherence to the above-stated policy would imply your account be terminated permanently and all funds forfeited (Deposits and winnings) However, as an act of good faith, we are allowing you to withdraw all your deposits from our website.
The question has been answered. Rather clearly. Are you suggesting that roonlagoon has provided verified and accurate documentation to satisfy KYC requirements?? Not to mention they were given every opportunity to make the adjustments necessary to provide accurate KYC Moreover, my name /dob were mistyped to preserve anonymity on a cyrpto website while registering the account, and I cant edit it. Upon speaking to the live support he basically told me there's nothing he can do about it, but he'll forward my request to the risk department. I'm feeling very uneasy with the lack of help and information I'm being given from live support.
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They sent me an email to change my information with proper verification so hoping everything goes smoothly again.
I am curious how this will end. Why does this have to take so long to solve something simple? What annoys me is that betnomi thinks he can make his own rules. From the beginning his Terms were full of mistakes. And now they write the customer frauded, based on what? How can you fraud if you do not even have the KYC? Betnomi is clearly using this argument to stall withdrawals and not to process them. There was a user who had to wait for 2 weeks to receive 400 Eur, that means this site is a joke. I hope that roonlagoon will receive every penny, and if not, please start an accusation topic, usually you will get enough support. There are many corrupt DT members which are in the pocket by Betnomi, so you have to be aware of that. Steamtyme is getting paid by Betnomi to defend them, so do not pay attention to his bullshit.
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February 22, 2021, 08:19:14 PM |
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Steamtyme is getting paid by Betnomi to defend them, so do not pay attention to his bullshit.
What Bullshit? Proof or you're a liar. The best thing about my answers are they use the words written by others, including the individual you are only here to help. While the accusation topic is the best one could hope for, as it gives the circus somewhere to move. You clearly do not give a shit about any user on the platform, or their accusations. Are things perfect, no. Sometimes a transaction is held up for one reason or another, but those issues get resolved. The thing is when a Service provider requests KYC - you have no choice but to provide it. It's usually really easy... Can't say I've ever failed... even more so when you are given the opportunity to correct "spelling and dating errors"
As far as I can judge, you can always come up with this argument to force clients to undergo with the KYC ? I think the KYC should not be a big problem at all actually, but what I am more worried about is on which grounds this comment is stated. What did the user do wrong here, since you are writing this?
Here's the thing they don't actually have to tell us anything publicly about what they think a user has done wrong. Hell the minute they do someone could claim their privacy is being violated... same as any service provider. Us the public just have to be told "We think you are in violation of out TOS, please submit "x" documentation" It doesn't matter what site you go on or what their TOS says, that's what we agree to when we participate. So as long as it's in there that KYC can be requested, act as if it will be applied at some point.
This post is not paid for by Betnomi, contrary to what some believe. I have not represented them on the forum for several months. They rent my Avatar space for advertising, which has no effect on my posts.
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February 22, 2021, 08:57:51 PM |
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Steamtyme is getting paid by Betnomi to defend them, so do not pay attention to his bullshit.
What Bullshit? Proof or you're a liar. The best thing about my answers are they use the words written by others, including the individual you are only here to help. While the accusation topic is the best one could hope for, as it gives the circus somewhere to move. You clearly do not give a shit about any user on the platform, or their accusations. Are things perfect, no. Sometimes a transaction is held up for one reason or another, but those issues get resolved. The thing is when a Service provider requests KYC - you have no choice but to provide it. It's usually really easy... Can't say I've ever failed... even more so when you are given the opportunity to correct "spelling and dating errors"
As far as I can judge, you can always come up with this argument to force clients to undergo with the KYC ? I think the KYC should not be a big problem at all actually, but what I am more worried about is on which grounds this comment is stated. What did the user do wrong here, since you are writing this?
Here's the thing they don't actually have to tell us anything publicly about what they think a user has done wrong. Hell the minute they do someone could claim their privacy is being violated... same as any service provider. Us the public just have to be told "We think you are in violation of out TOS, please submit "x" documentation" It doesn't matter what site you go on or what their TOS says, that's what we agree to when we participate. So as long as it's in there that KYC can be requested, act as if it will be applied at some point.
This post is not paid for by Betnomi, contrary to what some believe. I have not represented them on the forum for several months. They rent my Avatar space for advertising, which has no effect on my posts. You only made clear so far that you are getting paid by Betnomi to defend them. You are Royse777 or at least working with that muppet together. Betnomo wrote on the forum that they will never ask for KYC, unless they suspect there is fraud. And all of a sudden, all users are suddenly involved in fraud. What a big coincidence.. It is just a shady way to force users to provide the KYC. But I am very curious how this case will end, My guess is that Betnomi will only give the deposit back, like they indicated. Betnomi wrote that the user defrauded, without showing any kind of evidence. And they wrote they only want to give the deposit back, is this a fucking joke? This is not the first time how they trying to steal their customers funds. OP should be in paid full. He provided the KYC. If Betnomi refuses to payout the whole balance, start an accusation topic, please. @steamytme What was your opinion about the fact they betnomi displayed a passport from a user on the forum 2 months ago? That is exactly the reason why people do not want to undergo the KYC. Betnomi is a shame for this gaming business.
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February 22, 2021, 09:18:55 PM |
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You only made clear so far that you are getting paid by Betnomi to defend them. You are Royse777 or at least working with that muppet together. Prove it or you're a liar. Betnomo wrote on the forum that they will never ask for KYC, unless they suspect there is fraud. And all of a sudden, all users are suddenly involved in fraud. What a big coincidence.. It is just a shady way to force users to provide the KYC. All users?? Prove it or you're a liar But I am very curious how this case will end, My guess is that Betnomi will only give the deposit back, like they indicated. Yeah I expect them to do what they said as well, weird we are in agreement. Betnomi wrote that the user defrauded, without showing any kind of evidence. And they wrote they only want to give the deposit back, is this a fucking joke? This is not the first time how they trying to steal their customers funds. OP should be in paid full. He provided the KYC. If Betnomi refuses to payout the whole balance, start an accusation topic, please. What evidence does a company have to show the public?? In a few sentences you are upset about them showing what they believed at the time to be proof of fraudulent activity... yet here you are asking them to again post information publicly. Oh did he provide KYC, didn't see this. Did they also update their information to the correct spelling and dates? @steamytme What was your opinion about the fact they betnomi displayed a passport from a user on the forum 2 months ago? That is exactly the reason why people do not want to undergo the KYC. Betnomi is a shame for this gaming business.
I thought it was stupid to post that information. That's what actually brought Betnomi to my attention. I reached out to them explaining the forum and what's acceptable. That's when I briefly provided on forum support for them as they developed their live support. Weird how you want them to post more private information publicly though now to prove someone is fraudulent. It was more like 3 months ago. It's also not the reason people don't want to undergo KYC when requested. It's because they can't come up with real documents. If I truly valued my privacy to the point I wouldn't provide KYC I would never deposit on a site that could ask for it, which is clearly stated. My bad I keep posting before the Gold and Green army can create some echoes. Definitely though this discussion has run it's course, for the 3rd time or so. If there is an accusation then post away, I'm sure someone who isn't a scumbag such as myself will see the light That was an error I expect will never happen again, because they realize that even if the documents are fraudulent it shouldn't be posted publicly.
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If they scammed someone, why aren't the victims making the accusations? Lmao, all the accusations come from some alt accounts that may be used by a competitor casino.( and you already have a negative trust on the accounts)
From my point of view all of those alts should be banned, mods start cleaning the forum :p
all of them are troll accounts from competing gambling site... that buy account is very polluting this thread. very agrees with you that they should be cleaned up by the moderators because it really disturbs the comfort and also the discussion. Those accounts have some really big positions, they don't have anything to lose anymore, because their accounts are already flagged. Who would give them money for a signature campaign, no one, but I see that all those accounts have the adkinbets signature.(maybe cut off the head of the snake) Those accounts should be banned before they create more fake drama around projects. of course it must, the pollution members must be cleaned... betnomi has already answered the complaints that have occurred, so there is no point littering this thread with negative comments. the thing that makes me funny is why the adkinsbet puppet only attacks Betnomi 'lol'.
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If they scammed someone, why aren't the victims making the accusations? Lmao, all the accusations come from some alt accounts that may be used by a competitor casino.( and you already have a negative trust on the accounts)
From my point of view all of those alts should be banned, mods start cleaning the forum :p
all of them are troll accounts from competing gambling site... that buy account is very polluting this thread. very agrees with you that they should be cleaned up by the moderators because it really disturbs the comfort and also the discussion. Those accounts have some really big positions, they don't have anything to lose anymore, because their accounts are already flagged. Who would give them money for a signature campaign, no one, but I see that all those accounts have the adkinbets signature.(maybe cut off the head of the snake) Those accounts should be banned before they create more fake drama around projects. of course it must, the pollution members must be cleaned... betnomi has already answered the complaints that have occurred, so there is no point littering this thread with negative comments. the thing that makes me funny is why the adkinsbet puppet only attacks Betnomi 'lol'. Maybe they see them as good competitor that's why they are attacking it right now so that they stain back again the reputation of betnomi. But since they are known puppets and the site they promoted is kinda shady well provably no one will believe on what they are trying to placed here.
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If they scammed someone, why aren't the victims making the accusations? Lmao, all the accusations come from some alt accounts that may be used by a competitor casino.( and you already have a negative trust on the accounts)
From my point of view all of those alts should be banned, mods start cleaning the forum :p
all of them are troll accounts from competing gambling site... that buy account is very polluting this thread. very agrees with you that they should be cleaned up by the moderators because it really disturbs the comfort and also the discussion. Those accounts have some really big positions, they don't have anything to lose anymore, because their accounts are already flagged. Who would give them money for a signature campaign, no one, but I see that all those accounts have the adkinbets signature.(maybe cut off the head of the snake) Those accounts should be banned before they create more fake drama around projects. of course it must, the pollution members must be cleaned... betnomi has already answered the complaints that have occurred, so there is no point littering this thread with negative comments. the thing that makes me funny is why the adkinsbet puppet only attacks Betnomi 'lol'. Maybe they see them as good competitor that's why they are attacking it right now so that they stain back again the reputation of betnomi. But since they are known puppets and the site they promoted is kinda shady well provably no one will believe on what they are trying to placed here. Just look at their website, a joke.
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Not deposited here myself but it's hardly a surprise things are going down hill.
It was clear a lot of the initial support posted in this thread was actually 'investors' posting positive comments in an attempt to grow the platform. The downside of these casino's which issue tokens to investors prior to launch is that you really cant trust any of the positive feedback.
The icing on the cake was when the former employee posted his private chats with the owner where he openly bragged about making a fortune carding people. I mean... seriously, why would you give this guy your money??
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February 23, 2021, 04:41:46 PM |
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Not deposited here myself but it's hardly a surprise things are going down hill.
It was clear a lot of the initial support posted in this thread was actually 'investors' posting positive comments in an attempt to grow the platform. The downside of these casino's which issue tokens to investors prior to launch is that you really cant trust any of the positive feedback.
The icing on the cake was when the former employee posted his private chats with the owner where he openly bragged about making a fortune carding people. I mean... seriously, why would you give this guy your money??
You are absolutely right about that. The owner, Sorsis Chatwin, is a born scammer. he has now experience and can not run a companie. We all know that he created the profile "cryptocafes". He threatened customers with PM to expose their passport on the forum, which happened as well. How sick are you to publish a passport from a customer on the forum? I remember a case from a guy that was waiting more than 10 days for a withdrawal from only 350 eur. reason "fraudulent behavior". Where did we see that before? And now again some people complaining that Betnomi writes "fraudulent acts" and that is the reason why they do not process the withdrawal. You will see what money can do, as Betnomi bought the support from high ranked DT members in the forum, in exchange not to attack them. The owner Sorsis is a big clown, you can see how he scammed other people with his previous project, where frauded as well with stolen photo's and fake id. STAY AWAY FROM BETNOMI - THIS SITE IS SCAM
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February 23, 2021, 05:37:23 PM |
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He threatened customers with PM to expose their passport on the forum, which happened as well.
If this is true then it will create reputational issues against betnomi for sure, recently I also saw someone who is complaining that his dogecoin withdrawal stuck for days which isn't acceptable for sure but betnomi replied like they don't care because it's their wallet provider's fault not their own.
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February 24, 2021, 10:29:40 AM |
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Prove it or you're a liar.
Give up buddy. It's now established that these people have no brain and most probably they are owned by adkinsbet. I gave up long ago but still make comments here and there however all in sarcastic mood. Take them as entertainment.
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From the beginning his Terms were full of mistakes.
Could you please provide some evidence to support your claim? You have probably been tracking every tiny change since their terms appeared on the site because you claim there were many errors. Or maybe this information has already been collected and posted somewhere by you or someone else? Please share the link. I haven’t done this in a while, and now I am trying to figure out what is going on here.
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Open your eyes, guys. Betnomi does not honour withdrawals.
As soon as somebody makes a deposit, and lose money with gambling, there are no problems on this platform.
But, when somebody wins and wants to withdraw the money, then they tell you there are fraudulent acts and they even write they can confiscate the whole funds.
They only give the deposit back to user roonlagoon, while he should receive his winnings in full.
I am pretty sure that there are no fraudulent acts, and Betnomi just writes this to make sure they cover themselves when they give the deposit back.
I also advise to start an accusation topic against this scam site. They bought many DT members in the forum to make sure they do not get a tag, but let this not confuse you.
There are still honest DT members, and Betnomi should be stopped with this scamming behavior.
Betnomi looked like a good little bookmaker that does not require such nonsense as KYC and accepts deposits and withdraws cryptocurrencies, that's all I need, I don't even want any bonuses, just play normally, unfortunately I think the choice of betnomi is very bad. Betnomi verified my account however, it looks like I will be able to make deposits, bets and withdrawals from my Betnomi account, I don't know why they wanted KYC in my case, but it looks like it worked and it wasn't difficult.
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February 26, 2021, 02:03:09 AM |
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On Feb 19th I was told I would be able to withdraw my deposits. The same day I requested the return of my deposits by email. Since then I have contacted live support and sent a follow up email yesterday again requesting the return of the deposits. However I haven't received a reply to my emails or the return of the deposits.
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