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August 29, 2021, 12:25:17 PM
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The main problem now is that very little time has passed since the beginning of the pandemic. 2 years, in fact, is very little to get a real, comprehensive picture of the situation. The same statistics are kept differently in different countries. What can we say about the real effectiveness of vaccines that have been developed "on the knee", plus the appearance of mutations. Yes, there was not very positive news about the increase in the incidence, and this is attributed to new mutations. On the other hand, today medicine has already received a "feedback"; a stable section of the genetic code of the virus was also recently isolated, which will help to develop / modify vaccines and fight mutations much more efficiently ...
Now the situation reminds me a little of the situation with the outbreak of the influenza virus ("Spanish flu") at the beginning of the 20th century, at the beginning there was also the highest mortality rate, there were several global outbreaks, but now we treat the flu with essentially one pill, or preliminary vaccination

I don't know whether you can compare Spanish Flu with COVID 19. The mortality rate was much higher for the Spanish flu (at least when compared to the original strain of the virus). And during the Spanish Flu, it was mostly young and healthy people who died from the infection. It is just the reverse with COVID 19. More than 90% of the deaths are among the elderly (the proportion of younger people dying from COVID is higher for the delta strain).

Almost everyone in the world got infected with Spanish Flu and those who survived acquired natural immunity. But that is not the case with COVID. Those who got infected with the original strain again got infected with the delta strain and in some cases either required hospitalization or died.
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August 29, 2021, 02:17:56 PM
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The main problem now is that very little time has passed since the beginning of the pandemic. 2 years, in fact, is very little to get a real, comprehensive picture of the situation. The same statistics are kept differently in different countries. What can we say about the real effectiveness of vaccines that have been developed "on the knee", plus the appearance of mutations. Yes, there was not very positive news about the increase in the incidence, and this is attributed to new mutations. On the other hand, today medicine has already received a "feedback"; a stable section of the genetic code of the virus was also recently isolated, which will help to develop / modify vaccines and fight mutations much more efficiently ...
Now the situation reminds me a little of the situation with the outbreak of the influenza virus ("Spanish flu") at the beginning of the 20th century, at the beginning there was also the highest mortality rate, there were several global outbreaks, but now we treat the flu with essentially one pill, or preliminary vaccination

I don't know whether you can compare Spanish Flu with COVID 19. The mortality rate was much higher for the Spanish flu (at least when compared to the original strain of the virus). And during the Spanish Flu, it was mostly young and healthy people who died from the infection. It is just the reverse with COVID 19. More than 90% of the deaths are among the elderly (the proportion of younger people dying from COVID is higher for the delta strain).

Almost everyone in the world got infected with Spanish Flu and those who survived acquired natural immunity. But that is not the case with COVID. Those who got infected with the original strain again got infected with the delta strain and in some cases either required hospitalization or died.

I gave an example with the Spanish flu virus, because it is quite similar in the general picture - mass distribution, tens and hundreds of millions of cases, lack of treatment methods, panic and a lack of understanding of what to do. The disease also proceeded with a similar "pattern" - many were almost asymptomatic, and some groups of people had cyanosis and pneumonia, pulmonary hemorrhages inside the lungs ... True, the virus "eliminated itself", without medications and other things. As contemporaries of events write: "the virus mutated very quickly - at first it became more aggressive and deadly, but, ultimately, weakened, and then completely disappeared."
Whether there will be a complete coincidence with the historical example is difficult to say, now there are higher social standards, a higher standard of living and much better medicine ...
Those who have had COVID also develop immunity, and the recurrent disease is either asymptomatic or with minimal manifestations.
I have not yet heard that globally everyone who had been ill with the "standard" Covid, and fell ill with Delta, would necessarily be hospitalized or die.

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August 29, 2021, 02:24:38 PM
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November 2019 is the month where corona virus started at Wuhan China and now it's already one year has past. This Covid pandemic killed a lot of people all over the world, many people lost their job and it affect too much on the lives of everyone and also in every countries  economy.

After all the sufferings caused of this virus, we are still striving to overcome and go back to our normal daily lives. But sadly that everything has change and we are currently in a new normal where all are still taking some health protocol in order to avoid the spreading of virus and become affected of it.

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Now that there is already a vaccine , could it be the end of covid- 19 virus? How are you after one year of covid-19 pandemic?

There is a saying," Behind the Clouds the Sun is still Shining".

Now, that theres already a vaccine, it gives hope to people that this pandemic will end soon and everyone can continue their normal life. On the current pandemic, many people lives were affected. So I am grateful that theres already a vaccine eventhough the supply is limited because they need to produce a million vaccine a day that can cause it to be delayed sometimes or the distributions takes time. but atleast theres a way to end this pandemic.
And also, the people needs to be disciplined and cooperate to government to stop this pandemic too.

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August 29, 2021, 02:32:52 PM
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Now, that theres already a vaccine, it gives hope to people that this pandemic will end soon and everyone can continue their normal life. On the current pandemic, many people lives were affected. So I am grateful that theres already a vaccine eventhough the supply is limited because they need to produce a million vaccine a day that can cause it to be delayed sometimes or the distributions takes time. but atleast theres a way to end this pandemic.
And also, the people needs to be disciplined and cooperate to government to stop this pandemic too.

Considering the fact that 80% of the population needs to be vaccinated to achieve herd immunity (previously the experts were saying that 60% would be enough, but now with the spread of delta variant, they have revised this estimate to 80%), we need around 18 billion doses of the vaccine. Unfortunately, only the Chinese companies are able to produce vaccines on such massive quantities. And these Chinese vaccines (Sinopharm, Sinovac, Cansino.etc) have proved very ineffective against the delta variant. Pfizer has been able to scale up their production to a certain amount. But others, like Moderna and Sputnik are facing huge issues in doing that.
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August 29, 2021, 02:54:35 PM
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one thing that I may have felt during the covid-19 outbreak that in fact has been more than a year is an uncertainty in all lines of life with limitations in some things in my country, making a lot of negative impacts on work, and education Even though there is a vaccine, many people are still in doubt about health and safety guarantees for its users

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August 29, 2021, 03:05:32 PM
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Now, that theres already a vaccine, it gives hope to people that this pandemic will end soon and everyone can continue their normal life. On the current pandemic, many people lives were affected. So I am grateful that theres already a vaccine eventhough the supply is limited because they need to produce a million vaccine a day that can cause it to be delayed sometimes or the distributions takes time. but atleast theres a way to end this pandemic.
And also, the people needs to be disciplined and cooperate to government to stop this pandemic too.

Considering the fact that 80% of the population needs to be vaccinated to achieve herd immunity (previously the experts were saying that 60% would be enough, but now with the spread of delta variant, they have revised this estimate to 80%), we need around 18 billion doses of the vaccine. Unfortunately, only the Chinese companies are able to produce vaccines on such massive quantities. And these Chinese vaccines (Sinopharm, Sinovac, Cansino.etc) have proved very ineffective against the delta variant. Pfizer has been able to scale up their production to a certain amount. But others, like Moderna and Sputnik are facing huge issues in doing that.

I agree that vaccination, or rather problem vaccination, exists in countries with a very large population, where there are hundreds or more millions of people. Or where the population is spread evenly and over a large area. In such countries, the vaccination process is very extended in time and territory. But for countries with indicators of even several tens of millions, and more or less developed infrastructure, this is no longer such a global problem. For example, in Ukraine, over the past 2 months, we have made a strong breakthrough in vaccination, and already 13% have been vaccinated once, almost 9% completely. In the largest cities of the country (and this is about 80% of the country's population), a lot of vaccination centers have been opened, where there are 4 types of vaccines, and a free registration for vaccination. For example, here is a link to a single Ukrainian resource, in this case for the city of Kiev (https://helsi.me/clinic/926a56de-cc9f-4d32-a393-021cc1b3c194/doctors?mode=table), a simple example is an online platform and a chart (for the record) at one of the vaccination centers. The platform is the same for the whole of Ukraine, any citizen, in any accessible locality, can freely and free of charge sign up and receive vaccinations.

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August 29, 2021, 07:06:14 PM
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one thing that I may have felt during the covid-19 outbreak that in fact has been more than a year is an uncertainty in all lines of life with limitations in some things in my country, making a lot of negative impacts on work, and education Even though there is a vaccine, many people are still in doubt about health and safety guarantees for its users
Indeed, since this pandemic the government has made a policy by prohibiting the presence of a crowd,
so even now there are still restrictions and it makes a lot of people lose their jobs,
I really hope his condition can really recover and hope that he can return to normal even though it's quite difficult for sure

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August 30, 2021, 03:20:19 AM
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I agree that vaccination, or rather problem vaccination, exists in countries with a very large population, where there are hundreds or more millions of people. Or where the population is spread evenly and over a large area. In such countries, the vaccination process is very extended in time and territory. But for countries with indicators of even several tens of millions, and more or less developed infrastructure, this is no longer such a global problem. For example, in Ukraine, over the past 2 months, we have made a strong breakthrough in vaccination, and already 13% have been vaccinated once, almost 9% completely. In the largest cities of the country (and this is about 80% of the country's population), a lot of vaccination centers have been opened, where there are 4 types of vaccines, and a free registration for vaccination. For example, here is a link to a single Ukrainian resource, in this case for the city of Kiev (https://helsi.me/clinic/926a56de-cc9f-4d32-a393-021cc1b3c194/doctors?mode=table), a simple example is an online platform and a chart (for the record) at one of the vaccination centers. The platform is the same for the whole of Ukraine, any citizen, in any accessible locality, can freely and free of charge sign up and receive vaccinations.

You are saying that 87% of the population is unvaccinated. This is the perfect recipe for disaster. The winter season will start in less than 2 months and if the pandemic is not contained before that it will spread like wildfire. And if I am not wrong, Ukraine has mostly used the Chinese vaccines. And these vaccines have proved to be very ineffective against the delta variant. The government needs to step up the vaccination rate. Here in India we are vaccinating close to 10 million people per day.

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The COVID-19 pandemic has had a broad impact on the global health and economic crisis throughout 2020 and this year. Governments of countries around the world are taking various mitigation and cooperation measures to suppress the spread of COVID-19 while accelerating economic recovery. This year, global economic performance is expected to grow positively in line with the economic stimulus program and accelerated vaccination. I'm sure, if everyone obeys the government's recommendations, this pandemic will end quickly, that good hope will be real in front of us.
in reality it is not that easy. There are many obstacles that make it difficult for us to get out of this pandemic. Among them are the limited number of vaccines and the number of fake news that causes many people to refuse to receive vaccines. They used to hope that a vaccine would be found quickly, after a vaccine was found, many people refused  Roll Eyes
Public awareness is really needed in a pandemic like this. they should have more confidence in the government in power and not easily believe in fake news like that. there is no need to hesitate to receive the vaccine because the vaccine has gone through several stages of very strict trials.

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Public awareness is really needed in a pandemic like this. they should have more confidence in the government in power and not easily believe in fake news like that. there is no need to hesitate to receive the vaccine because the vaccine has gone through several stages of very strict trials.

This is the problem. Some of the vaccines were approved before the phase III clinical trials were completed. Also, a lot of people (many of them influential in the social media) have spread false rumors about vaccination. The Brazilian president even claimed that if someone takes a vaccine, then he will be converted to a crocodile. And globally, it is estimated that 99.5% of the deaths were reported among people who haven't received two doses of the vaccine. Those who spread rumors against the vaccines are partly responsible for these deaths.
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Now it's been almost 2 years of covid, in my country the implementation of vaccination has not been 100% fulfilled. many economists in my country have predicted that if vaccinations can run smoothly and also the case of covid has decreased, it is possible that the economic sector around the world will slowly recover. this is because the world economy has been disrupted internationally by covid 19. so I think the economy will still be able to recover quickly

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November 2019 is the month where corona virus started at Wuhan China and now it's already one year has past. This Covid pandemic killed a lot of people all over the world, many people lost their job and it affect too much on the lives of everyone and also in every countries  economy.

After all the sufferings caused of this virus, we are still striving to overcome and go back to our normal daily lives. But sadly that everything has change and we are currently in a new normal where all are still taking some health protocol in order to avoid the spreading of virus and become affected of it.

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Pfizer and BioNTech announced their coronavirus vaccine was more than 90% among those evidence of prior infection, hailing the development as "a great day for science and humanity."
You can find more details on this post..https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287841.0

Now that there is already a vaccine , could it be the end of covid- 19 virus? How are you after one year of covid-19 pandemic?

There is a saying," Behind the Clouds the Sun is still Shining".

Since the outbreak of the covid-19 pandemic has made life and economy difficult for many countries , Many people have died , Are unemployed and malnourished , Myself included. I am unemployed and life is extremely difficult , Severely malnourished , My family has 4 members and I am the main breadwinner in the family , But also partly thanks to the previous BTC reserve so I have to sell take some of his BTC to get through the current pandemic. I am very depressed and sad about my current life.

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August 30, 2021, 10:45:03 AM
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Same on my country the vaccination is still lagging behind, we are at around 70% of the people vaccinated, but the politicians say we need 85% to achieve some kind of herd immunity. So far we still don't know when and how exactly the corona virus was spread in China. I read articles that say people where treated in hospital with corona symptoms already in September 2019, that would be 2 years now.

We may never know about the real origin of the virus, because China has now put an iron curtain on any information related to it. And it is impossible to independently verify any information, without their help. But I have to say one thing. If there is any country in the world that has benefitted from the pandemic, that has to be China. They have sold billions of doses of the Sinopharm/Sinovac/Cansino vaccines, at a time when the other vaccine manufacturers struggled to scale up their production. Their vaccines were priced at around $40 per dose, which means that the Chinese government received hundreds of billions of USD from the vaccines alone.
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September 01, 2021, 07:30:54 PM
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I agree that vaccination, or rather problem vaccination, exists in countries with a very large population, where there are hundreds or more millions of people. Or where the population is spread evenly and over a large area. In such countries, the vaccination process is very extended in time and territory. But for countries with indicators of even several tens of millions, and more or less developed infrastructure, this is no longer such a global problem. For example, in Ukraine, over the past 2 months, we have made a strong breakthrough in vaccination, and already 13% have been vaccinated once, almost 9% completely. In the largest cities of the country (and this is about 80% of the country's population), a lot of vaccination centers have been opened, where there are 4 types of vaccines, and a free registration for vaccination. For example, here is a link to a single Ukrainian resource, in this case for the city of Kiev (https://helsi.me/clinic/926a56de-cc9f-4d32-a393-021cc1b3c194/doctors?mode=table), a simple example is an online platform and a chart (for the record) at one of the vaccination centers. The platform is the same for the whole of Ukraine, any citizen, in any accessible locality, can freely and free of charge sign up and receive vaccinations.

You are saying that 87% of the population is unvaccinated. This is the perfect recipe for disaster. The winter season will start in less than 2 months and if the pandemic is not contained before that it will spread like wildfire. And if I am not wrong, Ukraine has mostly used the Chinese vaccines. And these vaccines have proved to be very ineffective against the delta variant. The government needs to step up the vaccination rate. Here in India we are vaccinating close to 10 million people per day.

Yes, currently 13% are vaccinated, but:
1. This is a very big "leap" for the last 2-3 months, before that vaccination was going very badly
2. In recent months, a global vaccination program has been organized - vaccination is available in all major cities, in many centers, clinics, free of charge, and with any vaccine.
3. In Ukraine, a significant stock of vaccine has been created, in addition to Koronovac, large stocks of Pfizer, Modern, Astrazenek
4. The level of confidence in vaccination has begun to rise

So there is a chance to "catch up" with countries with higher vaccination rates

PS. I look at open sources, in India the indicator also leaves much to be desired (about 11% are fully vaccinated), although your scale is certainly incomparably larger ...

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September 02, 2021, 04:24:36 AM
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PS. I look at open sources, in India the indicator also leaves much to be desired (about 11% are fully vaccinated), although your scale is certainly incomparably larger ...

India is vaccinating close to 10 million people a day by now. 37.8% have received at least one dose, and 11.3% are fully vaccinated (here the priority was to administer at least one dose of the vaccine to those who are below 45 years, rather than fully vaccinating them). The government is trying really hard to vaccinate as many people as possible before the third wave. Considering the huge population, low education levels and lack of cooperation from the opposition ruled provinces, what has been achieved by the government so far is no less than monumental.
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PS. I look at open sources, in India the indicator also leaves much to be desired (about 11% are fully vaccinated), although your scale is certainly incomparably larger ...

India is vaccinating close to 10 million people a day by now. 37.8% have received at least one dose, and 11.3% are fully vaccinated (here the priority was to administer at least one dose of the vaccine to those who are below 45 years, rather than fully vaccinating them). The government is trying really hard to vaccinate as many people as possible before the third wave. Considering the huge population, low education levels and lack of cooperation from the opposition ruled provinces, what has been achieved by the government so far is no less than monumental.

I hope that you will succeed, and the required level of vaccination will be achieved on time and as efficiently as possible!

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In my place, the Corona virus pandemic has really had a tremendous impact on the economy of the people here, but now people have started to wake up. 
The corona virus has begun to subside, government regulations regarding restrictions have also begun to loosen. Hospitals are no longer full of Covid-19 patients. 
The majority of people here have had their vaccine done, and we hope that from now on we can live a normal life again.

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September 02, 2021, 01:10:28 PM
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Unfortunately here in our country it seems there's no improvement at all and I dont know how long this virus will last, how long people and the economy will suffer due to this virus that also has another variant. Its almost two years but lockdown implementation is still present although there's a vaccine available already. But still, its not a guarantee that you wont get infected but can only help to boost our immune system to help fight different illness particularly covid.

Christmas season is coming but probably, again, we will just stay at home and celebrate without strangers if no significant changes happened.

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September 02, 2021, 03:02:26 PM
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Now it's been almost 2 years of covid, in my country the implementation of vaccination has not been 100% fulfilled. many economists in my country have predicted that if vaccinations can run smoothly and also the case of covid has decreased, it is possible that the economic sector around the world will slowly recover. this is because the world economy has been disrupted internationally by covid 19. so I think the economy will still be able to recover quickly

Tbh I am against this vaccine agenda altogether, I've mentioned some facts in my previous posts, and mentioning them here again is a pain but here we go..
There is an insider of Pfizer vaccine that said the patients who took the 2nd dosage of this vaccine might die in 2-3 yrs because of Blood clotting.
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September 02, 2021, 03:35:57 PM
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PS. I look at open sources, in India the indicator also leaves much to be desired (about 11% are fully vaccinated), although your scale is certainly incomparably larger ...

India is vaccinating close to 10 million people a day by now. 37.8% have received at least one dose, and 11.3% are fully vaccinated (here the priority was to administer at least one dose of the vaccine to those who are below 45 years, rather than fully vaccinating them). The government is trying really hard to vaccinate as many people as possible before the third wave. Considering the huge population, low education levels and lack of cooperation from the opposition ruled provinces, what has been achieved by the government so far is no less than monumental.
Can the first dose of vaccine make someone win against the covid virus?
in my country the government recommends all ages to receive the first and second doses of the vaccine. The administration of the first dose of vaccine and the second dose also takes a long time, maybe 1 - 2 months.

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