2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers

[bryant.coleman]

Joachim Löw took a lot of blame for the defeat against North Macedonia (which I believe was unfair). The fact is that the German players have been in very poor form for some time now. This is the same team that got thrashed by Spain 0-6 in November 2020 (which was incidentally Germany's worst defeat since 1931). The recent matches just confirm that Germany hasn't recovered as of yet.

In addition to the low physical condition of the current players, we have to keep in mind that Alemenha is going through a phase of renewal of the team.
They still do not have enough young players, able to make up for the wear and tear of the more experienced.

I don't think that their squad is too old. In the starting XI against North Macedonia, only one of their players were aged 30 or above (İlkay Gündoğan). But it is true that there is some instability within the team and they have been so far unable to replace the legendary players who used to represent Germany a decade ago. Also, the current squad is missing some of the key players. I am talking about players such as Sami Khedira, Thomas Müller and Toni Kroos.

[joker_josue]

But it is true that there is some instability within the team and they have been so far unable to replace the legendary players who used to represent Germany a decade ago.

That's what I was thinking. It is not a matter of age, but experience.
If 2 or 3 players are lacking more experience, which is what happened, the team lowers its performance a lot.

[Sithara007]

I hope Germany will be able to make a comeback. Their next match is against the weakest team that is participating in this qualifying tournament (Liechtenstein). A 10-0 or 12-0 win against Liechtenstein can boost the morale of the team. And after that they have two more matches in September, against Armenia and Iceland. Armenia is unbeaten so far, and they have defeated Romania, Iceland and Liechtenstein.

[dre1982]

I hope Germany will be able to make a comeback. Their next match is against the weakest team that is participating in this qualifying tournament (Liechtenstein). A 10-0 or 12-0 win against Liechtenstein can boost the morale of the team. And after that they have two more matches in September, against Armenia and Iceland. Armenia is unbeaten so far, and they have defeated Romania, Iceland and Liechtenstein.

Well Armenia should be doable for Germany. An end tournament without Germany will be very strange. Same we had a few years ago when the Netherlands didn't qualify

[bryant.coleman]

Well Armenia should be doable for Germany. An end tournament without Germany will be very strange. Same we had a few years ago when the Netherlands didn't qualify

We are still in the initial stages and the possibility of Germany not qualifying for the main tournament in 2022 is quite remote. That said, the match against Armenia is no cakewalk. They have 3 wins from 3 matches now (vs Romania, Iceland and Liechtenstein). But this group is very tough, compared to the others. Apart from Germany and Armenia, we have Romania and Iceland (who are famous for upsets). And North Macedonia have already proved their mettle by destroying Germany.

[Saint-loup]

Well Armenia should be doable for Germany. An end tournament without Germany will be very strange. Same we had a few years ago when the Netherlands didn't qualify

We are still in the initial stages and the possibility of Germany not qualifying for the main tournament in 2022 is quite remote. That said, the match against Armenia is no cakewalk. They have 3 wins from 3 matches now (vs Romania, Iceland and Liechtenstein). But this group is very tough, compared to the others. Apart from Germany and Armenia, we have Romania and Iceland (who are famous for upsets). And North Macedonia have already proved their mettle by destroying Germany.

So you mean you will bet on Armenia against Germany, that's what you are saying? We must be serious Armenia will be a big underdog against Germany and nobody will recommend to bet on them, except if odds are not relevant of course. But even a draw will be less unlikely to happen than a victory from Armenia.

[joker_josue]

So you mean you will bet on Armenia against Germany, that's what you are saying? We must be serious Armenia will be a big underdog against Germany and nobody will recommend to bet on them, except if odds are not relevant of course. But even a draw will be less unlikely to happen than a victory from Armenia.

Few believed that Macedonia would win Germany. But whoever was "crazy" and bet on Macedonia, ended up being happy.
Of course, Germany's chances of winning are enormous, and no two games are the same.
Either way, betting is just that, the chance to take a chance and in the end be happy.

[Juggy777]

So you mean you will bet on Armenia against Germany, that's what you are saying? We must be serious Armenia will be a big underdog against Germany and nobody will recommend to bet on them, except if odds are not relevant of course. But even a draw will be less unlikely to happen than a victory from Armenia.

Few believed that Macedonia would win Germany. But whoever was "crazy" and bet on Macedonia, ended up being happy.
Of course, Germany's chances of winning are enormous, and no two games are the same.
Either way, betting is just that, the chance to take a chance and in the end be happy.

@Saint-loup currently Germany are no longer feared, and if Armenia player’s play with courage who knows what the results will be. Also this fixture is quiet a while away, and the end result will depend on who’s fit, and who’s absent for both the teams.

Source:

https://www.dw.com/en/joachim-löw-will-quit-as-germany-coach-after-european-championships/a-56813869

[bryant.coleman]

Few believed that Macedonia would win Germany. But whoever was "crazy" and bet on Macedonia, ended up being happy.
Of course, Germany's chances of winning are enormous, and no two games are the same.
Either way, betting is just that, the chance to take a chance and in the end be happy.

And those who actually watched that match would agree that North Macedonia was the better team on that day. Actually the margin could have been greater. Germany got one penalty kick which they didn't deserved and North Macedonia was denied of a deserving penalty kick. So the real margin could have been 3-0 instead of 2-1. Now Germany's next match is against Armenia, and the latter is in great form recently. It is not going to be very easy for Germany to end up as the top team in their group.

[ropyu1978]

Few believed that Macedonia would win Germany. But whoever was "crazy" and bet on Macedonia, ended up being happy.
Of course, Germany's chances of winning are enormous, and no two games are the same.
Either way, betting is just that, the chance to take a chance and in the end be happy.

And those who actually watched that match would agree that North Macedonia was the better team on that day. Actually the margin could have been greater. Germany got one penalty kick which they didn't deserved and North Macedonia was denied of a deserving penalty kick. So the real margin could have been 3-0 instead of 2-1. Now Germany's next match is against Armenia, and the latter is in great form recently. It is not going to be very easy for Germany to end up as the top team in their group.

Nobody will believe that Macedonia can beat Germany, everyone will bet Germany as the winner, but this is football, friends, sometimes it is difficult to predict, sometimes a weak country can beat a strong country, which has many star players ,,
Like Germany in the 2018 World Cup, which shocked Germany, which South Korea beat 2-0 ..
now we are waiting for the 2022 world cup who will be the champion ''

[Sithara007]

Nobody will believe that Macedonia can beat Germany, everyone will bet Germany as the winner, but this is football, friends, sometimes it is difficult to predict, sometimes a weak country can beat a strong country, which has many star players ,,
Like Germany in the 2018 World Cup, which shocked Germany, which South Korea beat 2-0 ..
now we are waiting for the 2022 world cup who will be the champion ''

This is one of the reasons why I favor a greater number of teams in the world cup. The FIFA has announced their plans to increase the total number of teams from 32 to 48. This would guarantee greater representation from around the world, and will make sure that there will be a greater number of upsets against the top ranking teams. Teams such as Iceland and Cameroon needs to play in the world cup, to make it more exciting. Sometimes I get tired of watching the established teams such as Brazil, Argentina and Germany.

[joker_josue]

This is one of the reasons why I favor a greater number of teams in the world cup. The FIFA has announced their plans to increase the total number of teams from 32 to 48. This would guarantee greater representation from around the world, and will make sure that there will be a greater number of upsets against the top ranking teams. Teams such as Iceland and Cameroon needs to play in the world cup, to make it more exciting. Sometimes I get tired of watching the established teams such as Brazil, Argentina and Germany.

But countries will not guarantee more competitiveness. Unfortunately we are going to see big countries continue to win against small ones. What can happen is that there are more suppressions, but as a general rule it should not change the big countries much.

[Sithara007]

But countries will not guarantee more competitiveness. Unfortunately we are going to see big countries continue to win against small ones. What can happen is that there are more suppressions, but as a general rule it should not change the big countries much.

I am not saying that an upset will happen every time when an underdog takes on a giant. But even if there is a small possibility of that happening, the entire tournament will become interesting. Right now, only a handful of teams are having a serious chance of winning the world cup. But if more teams are given a chance, then eventually they will also become competitive and may manage a few upsets against the established teams. The current international football powerhouses are largely concentrated in Europe and Latin America. Addition of more teams will bring diversity, by infusing teams from Asia, Africa and Oceania.

[Juggy777]

This is one of the reasons why I favor a greater number of teams in the world cup. The FIFA has announced their plans to increase the total number of teams from 32 to 48. This would guarantee greater representation from around the world, and will make sure that there will be a greater number of upsets against the top ranking teams. Teams such as Iceland and Cameroon needs to play in the world cup, to make it more exciting. Sometimes I get tired of watching the established teams such as Brazil, Argentina and Germany.

But countries will not guarantee more competitiveness. Unfortunately we are going to see big countries continue to win against small ones. What can happen is that there are more suppressions, but as a general rule it should not change the big countries much.

I am not saying that an upset will happen every time when an underdog takes on a giant. But even if there is a small possibility of that happening, the entire tournament will become interesting. Right now, only a handful of teams are having a serious chance of winning the world cup. But if more teams are given a chance, then eventually they will also become competitive and may manage a few upsets against the established teams. The current international football powerhouses are largely concentrated in Europe and Latin America. Addition of more teams will bring diversity, by infusing teams from Asia, Africa and Oceania.

@Sithara007 while I agree that more teams may add fresh blood in FIFA World Cup, but it’ll make the tournament longer too and I wonder if player’s will enjoy playing such long tournament?. Furthermore I don’t expect big teams to play their best 11 in each match against the smaller teams, which in turn will dilute the performance for the fans who’re watching the fixture and that’s why I don’t think that this is a wise move by the FIFA.

[mrongoz22]

But countries will not guarantee more competitiveness. Unfortunately we are going to see big countries continue to win against small ones. What can happen is that there are more suppressions, but as a general rule it should not change the big countries much.

I am not saying that an upset will happen every time when an underdog takes on a giant. But even if there is a small possibility of that happening, the entire tournament will become interesting. Right now, only a handful of teams are having a serious chance of winning the world cup. But if more teams are given a chance, then eventually they will also become competitive and may manage a few upsets against the established teams. The current international football powerhouses are largely concentrated in Europe and Latin America. Addition of more teams will bring diversity, by infusing teams from Asia, Africa and Oceania.

I agree with your opinion, my friends, European countries have always been strong candidates to become world cup winners such as Germany, Argentina, Brazil ''
whereas Asian countries cannot compete at all ''
Asian countries are only complementary to the world cup tournament ''
Only in 2002 if I'm not mistaken, South Korea advanced to the semifinals.
Let's just wait for the 2022 world cup in Qatar ... can Asian countries present a surprise, let's wait for the miracle, friend ...

[bryant.coleman]

Then the championship will be very long, and the players will have to experience even more physical stress! On the other hand, the games may be less entertaining, so it's up to the qualifiers to take part in the championship!

I am in favor of adding more teams to the tournament. The players are going to be fine, because they will play the same number of matches whether it is a 32-team tournament or a 48-team one. And what is the problem if the world cup extends for another week? Afterall, we are having this tournament only every 4 years and personally I don't mind if the tournament gets extended for another 5-6 days. And some of the most entertaining matches I have watched in the world cup involved underdogs such as Nigeria, Ghana and Iceland. So there is no point in saying that the world cup should be restricted only to the strongest teams.

[LTU_btc]

Time to bump this topic because our beloved international break returns .
Russia - Croatia probably is most interesting game today. Russia have new manager Karpin who replaced Cherchesov and Croatia don't have Modric. Maybe bookmakers don't think so, but IMO, Russia is favorite today.
Slovenia - Slovakia also looks interesting. I think it's very similar level teams, but maybe Slovenia are favorites just because of home pitch.
I expect easy Denmark win against Scotland if they will play same like in EURO 2020.
Ukraine should win in Kazakhstan. And nice odds for Netherlands win in Norway.

[Pulsar77]

Finally, we have some national games also.    France are going to be hosting Bosnia & Herzegovina and they are the absolute favorite of the game. They should be able to destroy Bosnia here. Portugal on the other hand are going to play against Ireland. Ronaldo got an arm injury but it looks like he bounced back. If he plays in this game, Portugal would win this game very easily.

[Sithara007]

Finally, we have some national games also.    France are going to be hosting Bosnia & Herzegovina and they are the absolute favorite of the game. They should be able to destroy Bosnia here. Portugal on the other hand are going to play against Ireland. Ronaldo got an arm injury but it looks like he bounced back. If he plays in this game, Portugal would win this game very easily.

Both the games are going to be close and I won't be surprised if an upset occurs with either of them. France is very strong on paper, but they are the same team who couldn't even qualify for the Quarter-finals stage in Euro 2021. And remember all the controversy after the match? The family members of Adrien Rabiot and Paul Pogba insulted each other and fought in public, with Kylian Mbappe's father also joining in later. Same goes for Portugal as well, but at least in their case they lost against the no.1 team in the world.

[uneng]

Finally, we have some national games also.    France are going to be hosting Bosnia & Herzegovina and they are the absolute favorite of the game. They should be able to destroy Bosnia here. Portugal on the other hand are going to play against Ireland. Ronaldo got an arm injury but it looks like he bounced back. If he plays in this game, Portugal would win this game very easily.

Both the games are going to be close and I won't be surprised if an upset occurs with either of them. France is very strong on paper, but they are the same team who couldn't even qualify for the Quarter-finals stage in Euro 2021. And remember all the controversy after the match? The family members of Adrien Rabiot and Paul Pogba insulted each other and fought in public, with Kylian Mbappe's father also joining in later. Same goes for Portugal as well, but at least in their case they lost against the no.1 team in the world.

France is always unpredictable. Sometimes they are very good and sometimes they are really bad. It's actually hard to see the national team in an average position. For the next game I guess it won't be a difficult challenge for France, because the adversary Bosnia hasn't won a single dispute since 2019. They have scored only 1 point in two games, while France has won two games in group D, including one game against Bosnia last march already.

There isn't much at Bosnia's favour besides the fact french national team will be composed by many first-timer players, as the regular ones are treating injuries, or maybe Deschamps just want to preserve their strength, effort and energy for a stronger opponent ahead.