The gambler who manages to beat the casino through cheating

[Betwrong]

Those all people managed to beat the casino not by luck just by their cheating strategies which can't be considered as actual beating the house because it is actually possible in long run no matter what. Well, these are some interesting stories behind the great minds who used to be smart but get caught at the end.

I wouldn't call them "great minds" though. Cheating isn't something a wise person would consider performing. Take the MIT team, prolly the wisest people of them all. Being scientists they could direct their efforts on inventing something which would make millions of USD for them legally. Many people could benefit from their inventions, while they could make good profits themselves. And yet they decided to engage in card counting, or, in other words, stealing money from casinos and other gamblers.

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[mardaed]

In my case if I will found some strategies to beat some games then I will definitely use it and for those people who spent a lot of time to research some strategies to beat the casinos then I salute them as they are not just random cheaters as they are spending their time in order to develop a useful strategy just like the MIT Team.

Every game has a weakness that is why the casinos are also vulnerable but it doesn't mean that they can be cheated easily as the casino owners are also doing their best to make a counter measures to their game weaknesses and as you can see if the casino can find out that they are being cheated then they will definitely act.

[Mauser]

That is a great list of very interesting people. Maybe you wan't to add Phil Ivey as well? He managed to cheat the casino out of a lot of money by memorising the layout of the cards. I haven't heard of many people who manage to cheat in a large scale playing Baccarat. In the end he had to repay the money tho as the casino went to court.

https://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/25107-poker-legend-phil-ivey-settles-10-1-million-lawsuit-with-borgata

[Fundamentals Of]

Not all the gamblers on the list are cheaters. The MIT Blackjack team was not composed of cheaters. They were composed of honest casino players. They played according to the rules. They didn't do something which was outside the rules of blackjack. It was just a matter of brilliance. They are more than the ordinary gamblers. They can play with the existing rules, take advantage of them, and make millions.

Cheaters could be reported to the police, get caught, fined, and may be incarcerated. But all these cannot be done to them because they were not criminals. They're just a bunch of above-averaged students who have taken the game on a whole new level.

[Questat]

That is a great list of very interesting people. Maybe you wan't to add Phil Ivey as well? He managed to cheat the casino out of a lot of money by memorising the layout of the cards. I haven't heard of many people who manage to cheat in a large scale playing Baccarat. In the end he had to repay the money tho as the casino went to court.

https://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/25107-poker-legend-phil-ivey-settles-10-1-million-lawsuit-with-borgata

Casinos would know if they are cheated or not, they are expected to win most of the time and if there's abnormal results on their profitability, they'll conduct and investigation to find out the reason behind, and if someone is winning constantly, they will also check on that person.

Right now, we have cameras all over and the security is improved now, so it's hard to cheat a casino.

Those cheaters were able to abuse the casinos before, but I doubt it would happen at the current generation.

[Findingnemo]

Those all people managed to beat the casino not by luck just by their cheating strategies which can't be considered as actual beating the house because it is actually possible in long run no matter what. Well, these are some interesting stories behind the great minds who used to be smart but get caught at the end.

I wouldn't call them "great minds" though. Cheating isn't something a wise person would consider performing. Take the MIT team, prolly the wisest people of them all. Being scientists they could direct their efforts on inventing something which would make millions of USD for them legally. Many people could benefit from their inventions, while they could make good profits themselves. And yet they decided to engage in card counting, or, in other words, stealing money from casinos and other gamblers.

Cheating is also an art which needs some special skills so I will call it as smartness to be honest but its morally wrong and discouraged for sure. Those person worked on how to cheat the system when all the people were just blaming their fate for their results which is something to be consider for smart mind.

[boyptc]

Yeah, they mostly beat the casinos but with a cheat. I thought that it's like having a genius strategy that they were able to beat the casino.

I remember a series that there's a device that the character was able to manipulate the results of the slots, I think that was with the Prison Break episode and with the trivia from OP, I didn't thought that it happened in real life.

The one i mentioned has No record of cheating , just got beaten the casino by 6 million in 1 night.

Yes, that's why 'mostly' was the word that I've said. Well that guy has been winning with whatever strategy he had in his mind.

A casino that lost that amount in one instance would definitely start to be strict because that's a huge money that came out to them.

[leea-1334]

First off, cheating is cheating,,, you are not beating the casino if you are cheating;) You can cheat your friends, other players, the house, but that is not the definition of beating the casino legitimately!

Card counting is not cheating though, technically. Casinos can blacklist you but it is not a crime as far as I know.

[blckhawk]

The 5th one is quite ridiculous though, I mean I don't imagine someone will do that lame tricks yet he managed to get millions with that. Anyway, cheating is unacceptable in every aspect even in gambling so there's nothing to be applauded with that because they didn't play in fair. Imagine everyone is striving hard to win gambling even though luck isn't the side of them and there are cheaters who are winning without any difficulties, that was really unacceptable. Regarding the MIT team, does it count cheating because as far as I know, they've been using math in doing this one, does it count? They were pretty amazing btw.

[Quidat]

The 5th one is quite ridiculous though, I mean I don't imagine someone will do that lame tricks yet he managed to get millions with that. Anyway, cheating is unacceptable in every aspect even in gambling so there's nothing to be applauded with that because they didn't play in fair. Imagine everyone is striving hard to win gambling even though luck isn't the side of them and there are cheaters who are winning without any difficulties, that was really unacceptable. Regarding the MIT team, does it count cheating because as far as I know, they've been using math in doing this one, does it count? They were pretty amazing btw.

When those people who had been using math to make up some big wins then its literally not cheating at all but house do consider it to be one as long those kind of ways
to sip out huge money into their platform or business then that one would really be treated to be called a cheating and the rest of the list are basically or obviously
the illegal way on winning things.So it is just right for them to be kicked out on the place since theyve been abusing  to take advantage on the rest.
It isnt really beating but rather on cheating on how to make millions on easiest way.

[michellee]

Cheating is also an art which needs some special skills so I will call it as smartness to be honest but its morally wrong and discouraged for sure. Those person worked on how to cheat the system when all the people were just blaming their fate for their results which is something to be consider for smart mind.

Even if that is art, but if someone is cheating, that means still cheat. But yes, it will need special skills, and not many people can do those skills. But it is too risky to do that thing because if the owner knows about cheating their system, I am sure the owner will try to catch them and get them to jail. Well, there will be people who still try to cheat the system, but only some people who can succeed to get the casino's money.

[Astvile]

So this cheating real stories from Casino guys only proves you cannot win huge amount of money in any casinos without cheating? I know this casinos is really hard to beat you need thousands of money to be able to win but this is not assurance even you have thousands if you have no strategy then eventually you will lose.   

You can win a lot of money in casinos it is that the odds surely will not be on your side. Extreme skill and luck will be needed for you to win huge money in a casino without cheating, it is possible but most likely would not happen because it is way harder than we can think of.

Cheating is also an art which needs some special skills so I will call it as smartness to be honest but its morally wrong and discouraged for sure. Those person worked on how to cheat the system when all the people were just blaming their fate for their results which is something to be consider for smart mind.

I agree to that but we should bear in mind cheating is cheating. Exploiting somethings flaw doesn't make you clean, and there are rules that you agree to before playing so you should as well follow them and never cheat against the casinos.

[Yogee]

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I don't think so, a number of gamblers has won huge amount without cheating the casino,

And how many of them do you think won by skills alone? Or how many of them were allowed by casinos to take their winnings?

Skills are developed over time and it should not be term as illegal if one uses skills in casino houses cause skill in not part of cheating.

Check how many skilled players were banned from playing or their winnings forfeited due to cheating accusations.

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Card counting is not cheating though, technically. Casinos can blacklist you but it is not a crime as far as I know.

Good take. Banned or blacklisted is pretty much the same as an illegal gambler. It's true that you can walk freely but you're not allowed to do what you like which is to play in casinos where the big money is.

[Findingnemo]

I agree to that but we should bear in mind cheating is cheating. Exploiting somethings flaw doesn't make you clean, and there are rules that you agree to before playing so you should as well follow them and never cheat against the casinos.

Even if that is art, but if someone is cheating, that means still cheat. But yes, it will need special skills, and not many people can do those skills. But it is too risky to do that thing because if the owner knows about cheating their system, I am sure the owner will try to catch them and get them to jail. Well, there will be people who still try to cheat the system, but only some people who can succeed to get the casino's money.

I never said cheating right, just said it is also a skill which can't be done by someone like you and me against the secured casino interface.Well Did you ever felt that we are getting cheating by the casinos all the time since house has winning percentage of 90% but when the player has only 10% which is also unfair and can be considered as cheating right?

[rodskee]

But Most of them are cheater and did not literally beat the casino because of their skills and Knowledge in game.
 
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I Admire the MIT blackjack team for their dedication ,wondering how many of their students had become a Blackjack experts now?

They are Example that People can Beat the system , By studying and By Giving the best for the good outcome.

[pungopete468]

For what I have read it's nearly impossible to win over the casino it's either you are very very lucky or you needed to cheat in order to win. Well I've seen some successful gamblers that win a lot but most of them won through lottery and not table games or slot games.

[bitbollo]

Counting card is actually one of the oldest and easy to spot trick to beat casino, I think also that isn't so common in real life... Very important! counting card in most of cases could provide only an odds advantage and rarely can be a sure win. Casino owner know very well these type of tricks and have several "weapons" to avoid counting card

[peter0425]

For what I have read it's nearly impossible to win over the casino it's either you are very very lucky or you needed to cheat in order to win. Well I've seen some successful gamblers that win a lot but most of them won through lottery and not table games or slot games.

But how about poker? this game is played in the table, I think if we search online we will see gamblers who made fortune in poker,

Yeah Poker is very hard to cheat , Not unless the players are Noob and the opponent has a fast hands that will make them advantageous to this game.

therefore it's not almost impossible, it's just hard to win in gambling because in reality, majority of gamblers loses, which makes casinos profitable.

But there are Players that Good at it ,an they have been proven this in tournaments , some of my friends are also best in poker and you can find their skills somewhere in occasions .

[michellee]

Even if that is art, but if someone is cheating, that means still cheat. But yes, it will need special skills, and not many people can do those skills. But it is too risky to do that thing because if the owner knows about cheating their system, I am sure the owner will try to catch them and get them to jail. Well, there will be people who still try to cheat the system, but only some people who can succeed to get the casino's money.

I never said cheating right, just said it is also a skill which can't be done by someone like you and me against the secured casino interface.Well Did you ever felt that we are getting cheating by the casinos all the time since house has winning percentage of 90% but when the player has only 10% which is also unfair and can be considered as cheating right?

It is clear you said:

Cheating is also an art which needs some special skills so I will call it as smartness to be honest but its morally wrong and discouraged for sure.

But never mind. I can accept it, and I can apologize to you if feel what I am saying is not right for you.

I do not think that the casino will cheat the gamblers. Even if they cheat us, we can not do anything because that is their business. If they cheat, we can move to the other website, and I am sure we will find it easily. But so far, I never think about the casino cheat or not because I do not think too far about that. All I want is to playing gambling, that's all.

[Findingnemo]

It is clear you said:

Cheating is also an art which needs some special skills so I will call it as smartness to be honest but its morally wrong and discouraged for sure.

But never mind. I can accept it, and I can apologize to you if feel what I am saying is not right for you.

I do not think that the casino will cheat the gamblers. Even if they cheat us, we can not do anything because that is their business. If they cheat, we can move to the other website, and I am sure we will find it easily. But so far, I never think about the casino cheat or not because I do not think too far about that. All I want is to playing gambling, that's all.

Even looked at my previous posts where I can't find when I said cheating is right but never mind.

Casinos are not cheating us, they are working based on the structure they made centuries earlier but just look at it deeply gambler has less while house has more chance then is it not fair right.