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February 01, 2021, 12:12:36 PM
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I stop when get profit from gambling because have try many time if keep going on to betting all my fund loss, so better left and close all gambling site than withdraw fund before take back by gambling. Many people when reach much profit keep going on for gambling because they think can get much profit again, but when all in least profit earn before loss and have looking money again for deposit. Better manage with your profit maybe half to withdraw and half to use betting again if you can't stop for gambling.
If many gamblers can stop when they get profit, I am sure they can enjoy their win money, and they will not face another loss. Withdrawing the win money will be important because that is how we can enjoy the money.

This story inspires me. It takes a lot of guts to pull it off. I wonder how it turned out for the students their techniques. Did such skill work for them also? Or did the casinos get smarter? Anyways it feels good to know the house doesn't always win  Grin

Any form of cheating couldn't justify the means. They might succeed yet there are still consequences. It's better to play fair and have peace of mind than to win or even beat the casino but has to face charges that could also ruin your reputation. I don't think they deserve admiration. We all want fair play and casinos also deserve that. We don't know the possible consequences that we might face in the future if we'll cheat today.
No guts have been doing in this matter because they are cheating, and they win because of a cheat. You can imagine how if you are the owner, and you found that gamblers cheat on your place. I am sure you will become mad and find out how they can cheat you, and you will prohibit that gambler from coming back and cheating again.

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February 01, 2021, 02:06:01 PM
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This story inspires me. It takes a lot of guts to pull it off. I wonder how it turned out for the students their techniques. Did such skill work for them also? Or did the casinos get smarter? Anyways it feels good to know the house doesn't always win  Grin

Any form of cheating couldn't justify the means. They might succeed yet there are still consequences. It's better to play fair and have peace of mind than to win or even beat the casino but has to face charges that could also ruin your reputation. I don't think they deserve admiration. We all want fair play and casinos also deserve that. We don't know the possible consequences that we might face in the future if we'll cheat today.

These should be the mindset that was a nature in human being but there are also some reason why people have turned out into these. We all know any form of cheating couldn't justify the means and even in any cause or even in any reason it wouldn't give you a peace of mind and sleep sound however there are also some gamblers which in need of money and luckily they have succeeded in their motive. Whatever their reason behind it we couldn't question their decision.

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February 01, 2021, 02:53:17 PM
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They have skills why they did not use to the right thing and for sure they will earn millions of dollars to their work or build their own business. People do cheating and they know the consequences once they caught they will go to prison or they torture for sure. They waste their lives by cheating yes they become instant millionaire by cheating but it is not the answer and doing bad is very wrong thing and the karma will soon happen them. I believe there is a lot of cheaters more in the gambling are not see because they are very smart to hide it but there is no secret does not reveal.
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February 02, 2021, 12:00:05 AM
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They have skills why they did not use to the right thing and for sure they will earn millions of dollars to their work or build their own business. People do cheating and they know the consequences once they caught they will go to prison or they torture for sure. They waste their lives by cheating yes they become instant millionaire by cheating but it is not the answer and doing bad is very wrong thing and the karma will soon happen them. I believe there is a lot of cheaters more in the gambling are not see because they are very smart to hide it but there is no secret does not reveal.

Sometimes in gambling many people don't care about if you cheat but your winings.
It's only when people start making mentions of how strange it is for the person to win that you will see the traces of cheating.
Aside from that, less people actually again. Though casinos owners are always watchful.
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February 02, 2021, 01:32:48 AM
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If you are openly declaring the rules of the game(terms and conditions) beforehand, this is not cheating. Players can examine them, and decide whether they want to play on the site. No pitfalls will be left for someone who read the ToS carefully(talking about honest gambling sites here, of course). Cheaters do not disclose their methods beforehand, and that's the difference. There's nothing to admire in their actions. Cheating is bad.
That's just cheating with extra steps, the problem with our notion of cheating is that it has to be illegal, if you know how the system works or you created the system, you can find or create some loopholes that will not be a problem for you if it ever comes to that. ToS is a pitfall, if you do not accept it then you can't play at their website. I know that cheating is bad but give credit where credit is due.

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February 02, 2021, 09:35:32 PM
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Though casinos owners are always watchful.
It is a business and they need to take care of their business to make it continuous running. Although we as gamblers knew it that they're all for the win and what they are giving us is only chances of winning yet we're still going back to them and play until we make it or break it.
But it's more convenient to gamble online now and with the provably fair and having game providers made it easier for them to secure that there will be no one who can cheat them.

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February 02, 2021, 09:49:25 PM
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Though casinos owners are always watchful.
It is a business and they need to take care of their business to make it continuous running. Although we as gamblers knew it that they're all for the win and what they are giving us is only chances of winning yet we're still going back to them and play until we make it or break it.
But it's more convenient to gamble online now and with the provably fair and having game providers made it easier for them to secure that there will be no one who can cheat them.
they can take care of thier business even if they are away but they can pay for the expense online and they can hire people that can watch for thier business but there are owners that choose to not hire people but they manage the business on their own . i think 777 coin and bitvest has run by less people , this is why the payments are delayed sometimes . casinos do give out bonuses that you can withdraw but that is if your a loyal costumer .game providers is not for anti cheating but it can make the life of the casino owners easier because they dont need to think of creating games
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February 03, 2021, 06:08:42 AM
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Though casinos owners are always watchful.
It is a business and they need to take care of their business to make it continuous running. Although we as gamblers knew it that they're all for the win and what they are giving us is only chances of winning yet we're still going back to them and play until we make it or break it.
But it's more convenient to gamble online now and with the provably fair and having game providers made it easier for them to secure that there will be no one who can cheat them.

With all of the things I saw about casinos in the media and hollywood, and of course from my own personal experience. I would say that casino's are almost to the point of being paranoid when it comes to gamblers doing crazy stuff to earn money. I mean we are talking about big prizes here and not just some petty change. Cameras all over the place, heck maybe even the employees might have body cams to monitor facial expressions of the gamblers. If you win then make sure you don't sport any facial expressions suggestive of a confident win. They will do great lengths to place all the needed security.

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February 03, 2021, 07:35:37 AM
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They have skills why they did not use to the right thing and for sure they will earn millions of dollars to their work or build their own business. People do cheating and they know the consequences once they caught they will go to prison or they torture for sure. They waste their lives by cheating yes they become instant millionaire by cheating but it is not the answer and doing bad is very wrong thing and the karma will soon happen them. I believe there is a lot of cheaters more in the gambling are not see because they are very smart to hide it but there is no secret does not reveal.

Sometimes in gambling many people don't care about if you cheat but your winings.
It's only when people start making mentions of how strange it is for the person to win that you will see the traces of cheating.
Aside from that, less people actually again. Though casinos owners are always watchful.
People will try to cheat the game because they want to get a win on that game. But unfortunately, not all gamblers can succeed in cheating the system and get the win money, but many of them are busted by the casino and the casino kick them all out from the casino place. But the casino will always monitor their place and always trying to investigate something that looks strange, so they can prevent the cheater from stealing their money. If someone can win from the casino by cheating, they will be lucky because not many gamblers can do that.

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They have skills why they did not use to the right thing and for sure they will earn millions of dollars to their work or build their own business. People do cheating and they know the consequences once they caught they will go to prison or they torture for sure. They waste their lives by cheating yes they become instant millionaire by cheating but it is not the answer and doing bad is very wrong thing and the karma will soon happen them. I believe there is a lot of cheaters more in the gambling are not see because they are very smart to hide it but there is no secret does not reveal.

Sometimes in gambling many people don't care about if you cheat but your winings.
It's only when people start making mentions of how strange it is for the person to win that you will see the traces of cheating.
Aside from that, less people actually again. Though casinos owners are always watchful.
People will try to cheat the game because they want to get a win on that game. But unfortunately, not all gamblers can succeed in cheating the system and get the win money, but many of them are busted by the casino and the casino kick them all out from the casino place. But the casino will always monitor their place and always trying to investigate something that looks strange, so they can prevent the cheater from stealing their money. If someone can win from the casino by cheating, they will be lucky because not many gamblers can do that.

If you are getting lots of wins then the others expect someone is watching you from the dark. That's what happens to me when I successfully manage to find some bugs in the online game and I can do some task which is done for about a month and I can only do it for 3-5 days. I found myself investigated by the admin himself and finally kick me out of that game, I was banned forever. That's on the game, what more if you are getting some straight wins from casino without losing? You need to stay low no matter how many tricks you know. You just need to keep it to yourself.

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If you are openly declaring the rules of the game(terms and conditions) beforehand, this is not cheating. Players can examine them, and decide whether they want to play on the site. No pitfalls will be left for someone who read the ToS carefully(talking about honest gambling sites here, of course). Cheaters do not disclose their methods beforehand, and that's the difference. There's nothing to admire in their actions. Cheating is bad.
That's just cheating with extra steps, the problem with our notion of cheating is that it has to be illegal, if you know how the system works or you created the system, you can find or create some loopholes that will not be a problem for you if it ever comes to that. ToS is a pitfall, if you do not accept it then you can't play at their website. I know that cheating is bad but give credit where credit is due.

Not all people think of making loopholes when creating a system, I can assure you in that. Smiley Since we are on this forum, Satoshi Nakamoto would be a good example. But, actually, there are many others, who wouldn't cheat even if they knew they could get away with it. Also, there are such things as open-source software and provably fair algorithm, which make creating those loopholes impossible.

I know that cheating is bad but give credit where credit is due.

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February 03, 2021, 08:20:46 PM
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Though casinos owners are always watchful.
It is a business and they need to take care of their business to make it continuous running. Although we as gamblers knew it that they're all for the win and what they are giving us is only chances of winning yet we're still going back to them and play until we make it or break it.
But it's more convenient to gamble online now and with the provably fair and having game providers made it easier for them to secure that there will be no one who can cheat them.
they can take care of thier business even if they are away but they can pay for the expense online and they can hire people that can watch for thier business but there are owners that choose to not hire people but they manage the business on their own . i think 777 coin and bitvest has run by less people , this is why the payments are delayed sometimes . casinos do give out bonuses that you can withdraw but that is if your a loyal costumer .game providers is not for anti cheating but it can make the life of the casino owners easier because they dont need to think of creating games
No, those casinos are not run by lightlord alone. If you'll check bitvest, you can turn the page to the bitvest family and you'll see how many staff that they have.
It's a combination of other staff in different ranks. You've given a wrong example.

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February 03, 2021, 09:08:53 PM
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They have skills why they did not use to the right thing and for sure they will earn millions of dollars to their work or build their own business. People do cheating and they know the consequences once they caught they will go to prison or they torture for sure. They waste their lives by cheating yes they become instant millionaire by cheating but it is not the answer and doing bad is very wrong thing and the karma will soon happen them. I believe there is a lot of cheaters more in the gambling are not see because they are very smart to hide it but there is no secret does not reveal.

Sometimes in gambling many people don't care about if you cheat but your winings.
It's only when people start making mentions of how strange it is for the person to win that you will see the traces of cheating.
Aside from that, less people actually again. Though casinos owners are always watchful.
People will try to cheat the game because they want to get a win on that game. But unfortunately, not all gamblers can succeed in cheating the system and get the win money, but many of them are busted by the casino and the casino kick them all out from the casino place. But the casino will always monitor their place and always trying to investigate something that looks strange, so they can prevent the cheater from stealing their money. If someone can win from the casino by cheating, they will be lucky because not many gamblers can do that.

If you are getting lots of wins then the others expect someone is watching you from the dark. That's what happens to me when I successfully manage to find some bugs in the online game and I can do some task which is done for about a month and I can only do it for 3-5 days. I found myself investigated by the admin himself and finally kick me out of that game, I was banned forever. That's on the game, what more if you are getting some straight wins from casino without losing? You need to stay low no matter how many tricks you know. You just need to keep it to yourself.

I guess that is human nature, everyone likes to push the limits.
Cheating is bad bit some people just can't resist trying to find the easy way to make money even if that includes activities that are not allowed. I'm not judging anyone but if you choose that way you have to be aware how much you risk and what are the consequences. To stay low it's not the solution because eventually you will get caught, sooner or later you will get carried away and lose control and like you said you might get banned forever or lose great deal of money that will exceed everything that you earned with cheating. Do, it's not worth it, to my opinion.

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February 04, 2021, 06:35:30 AM
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I stop when get profit from gambling because have try many time if keep going on to betting all my fund loss, so better left and close all gambling site than withdraw fund before take back by gambling. Many people when reach much profit keep going on for gambling because they think can get much profit again, but when all in least profit earn before loss and have looking money again for deposit. Better manage with your profit maybe half to withdraw and half to use betting again if you can't stop for gambling.

The thing with gambling addiction is, unless and until you use 100% of the profit that you earnt, you can't really say you won something, because even if you keep half for gambling and half for withdrawal, when you lose the half you saved for gambling, automatically you will deposit the other half as well. That's why what I do is use the profit totally and then wait for any future earnings to gamble again so that the profit I got from the current session doesn't lead me to more losses than the actual profit.
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February 04, 2021, 08:01:31 AM
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If you are getting lots of wins then the others expect someone is watching you from the dark. That's what happens to me when I successfully manage to find some bugs in the online game and I can do some task which is done for about a month and I can only do it for 3-5 days. I found myself investigated by the admin himself and finally kick me out of that game, I was banned forever. That's on the game, what more if you are getting some straight wins from casino without losing? You need to stay low no matter how many tricks you know. You just need to keep it to yourself.
That is what happens to us if we can do something that other people need longer to get. Other people or even the admin will check us and investigate if we do something suspicious or not, and they can ban us forever without any notice. It is normal to see other people who do not like what we found because they can not find what we did. If we can get some straight win from the games, that will make the alarm on the casino ring and investigate our account. So if we can win, maybe we need to take a break for a while and withdraw the money.

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If you are getting lots of wins then the others expect someone is watching you from the dark. That's what happens to me when I successfully manage to find some bugs in the online game and I can do some task which is done for about a month and I can only do it for 3-5 days. I found myself investigated by the admin himself and finally kick me out of that game, I was banned forever. That's on the game, what more if you are getting some straight wins from casino without losing? You need to stay low no matter how many tricks you know. You just need to keep it to yourself.
That is what happens to us if we can do something that other people need longer to get. Other people or even the admin will check us and investigate if we do something suspicious or not, and they can ban us forever without any notice. It is normal to see other people who do not like what we found because they can not find what we did. If we can get some straight win from the games, that will make the alarm on the casino ring and investigate our account. So if we can win, maybe we need to take a break for a while and withdraw the money.

First off, if you win, even if you win big, a legitimate casino will allow you to withdraw the money. You don't need to wait or anything. Secondly, if you are capable of finding bugs, it means you are a good coder and you can make good money as such. Also, you can report the bugs and be rewarded by casino for that. It's a pity that sometimes talented people opt for illegal activity, while they can earn good money legally.

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February 04, 2021, 02:16:46 PM
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If you are getting lots of wins then the others expect someone is watching you from the dark. That's what happens to me when I successfully manage to find some bugs in the online game and I can do some task which is done for about a month and I can only do it for 3-5 days. I found myself investigated by the admin himself and finally kick me out of that game, I was banned forever. That's on the game, what more if you are getting some straight wins from casino without losing? You need to stay low no matter how many tricks you know. You just need to keep it to yourself.
That is what happens to us if we can do something that other people need longer to get. Other people or even the admin will check us and investigate if we do something suspicious or not, and they can ban us forever without any notice. It is normal to see other people who do not like what we found because they can not find what we did. If we can get some straight win from the games, that will make the alarm on the casino ring and investigate our account. So if we can win, maybe we need to take a break for a while and withdraw the money.

First off, if you win, even if you win big, a legitimate casino will allow you to withdraw the money. You don't need to wait or anything. Secondly, if you are capable of finding bugs, it means you are a good coder and you can make good money as such. Also, you can report the bugs and be rewarded by casino for that. It's a pity that sometimes talented people opt for illegal activity, while they can earn good money legally.
I think if wanna get bug better keep playing by your self without have to report bug on the system, you have try to get much from casino betting because every time they take much money from their member so why not to get back your money when getting bug although if you report will reward by them, but you can get more money than reward if you get bug on betting site.

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February 04, 2021, 03:12:44 PM
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I stop when get profit from gambling because have try many time if keep going on to betting all my fund loss, so better left and close all gambling site than withdraw fund before take back by gambling. Many people when reach much profit keep going on for gambling because they think can get much profit again, but when all in least profit earn before loss and have looking money again for deposit. Better manage with your profit maybe half to withdraw and half to use betting again if you can't stop for gambling.

The thing with gambling addiction is, unless and until you use 100% of the profit that you earnt, you can't really say you won something, because even if you keep half for gambling and half for withdrawal, when you lose the half you saved for gambling, automatically you will deposit the other half as well. That's why what I do is use the profit totally and then wait for any future earnings to gamble again so that the profit I got from the current session doesn't lead me to more losses than the actual profit.
Safer way to avoid losing everything, just in any case addiction really uncontrollable, not even you already have a good set of plans
once things busted you up chances to play more is much higher.

Good thing that you already understand that and instead of keeping your money as saving, by using it will manage you to enjoy your
profits, whatever happened you already enjoy the money from this activities.

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February 04, 2021, 06:13:39 PM
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If you are getting lots of wins then the others expect someone is watching you from the dark. That's what happens to me when I successfully manage to find some bugs in the online game and I can do some task which is done for about a month and I can only do it for 3-5 days. I found myself investigated by the admin himself and finally kick me out of that game, I was banned forever. That's on the game, what more if you are getting some straight wins from casino without losing? You need to stay low no matter how many tricks you know. You just need to keep it to yourself.
That is what happens to us if we can do something that other people need longer to get. Other people or even the admin will check us and investigate if we do something suspicious or not, and they can ban us forever without any notice. It is normal to see other people who do not like what we found because they can not find what we did. If we can get some straight win from the games, that will make the alarm on the casino ring and investigate our account. So if we can win, maybe we need to take a break for a while and withdraw the money.

First off, if you win, even if you win big, a legitimate casino will allow you to withdraw the money. You don't need to wait or anything. Secondly, if you are capable of finding bugs, it means you are a good coder and you can make good money as such. Also, you can report the bugs and be rewarded by casino for that. It's a pity that sometimes talented people opt for illegal activity, while they can earn good money legally.
I think if wanna get bug better keep playing by your self without have to report bug on the system, you have try to get much from casino betting because every time they take much money from their member so why not to get back your money when getting bug although if you report will reward by them, but you can get more money than reward if you get bug on betting site.
People are different and this wont really be ethical on any angle since this is an act of abusing that exploit and this would be also considered as stealing.
Not all people would really be that greedy on to take advantage with that but somehow majority will really be abusing this opportunity but the question is,
wouldnt be they able to get caught or do raise up some red flag by the casino itself? for sure withdrawals would be hold up.

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February 04, 2021, 07:28:34 PM
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If you are getting lots of wins then the others expect someone is watching you from the dark. That's what happens to me when I successfully manage to find some bugs in the online game and I can do some task which is done for about a month and I can only do it for 3-5 days. I found myself investigated by the admin himself and finally kick me out of that game, I was banned forever. That's on the game, what more if you are getting some straight wins from casino without losing? You need to stay low no matter how many tricks you know. You just need to keep it to yourself.
That is what happens to us if we can do something that other people need longer to get. Other people or even the admin will check us and investigate if we do something suspicious or not, and they can ban us forever without any notice. It is normal to see other people who do not like what we found because they can not find what we did. If we can get some straight win from the games, that will make the alarm on the casino ring and investigate our account. So if we can win, maybe we need to take a break for a while and withdraw the money.

First off, if you win, even if you win big, a legitimate casino will allow you to withdraw the money. You don't need to wait or anything. Secondly, if you are capable of finding bugs, it means you are a good coder and you can make good money as such. Also, you can report the bugs and be rewarded by casino for that. It's a pity that sometimes talented people opt for illegal activity, while they can earn good money legally.
I think if wanna get bug better keep playing by your self without have to report bug on the system, you have try to get much from casino betting because every time they take much money from their member so why not to get back your money when getting bug although if you report will reward by them, but you can get more money than reward if you get bug on betting site.
It's against on them and considered as cheating. Of course they're getting on us users because we are gamblers, looking for entertainment and they're businessmen who earns profit through gambling. I also want money, it's an opportunity to earn but prolly, they will notice it sooner or later and all of your efforts will be put into waste, once they've found out you're using cheats. Some sites also have benefits, how would you earn those if you're already violating the agreement if you're using the platform.
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