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I think the plan of RB its pretty easy, if Ricciardo performs good on AlphaTauri what its left of the season he its gonna be again in RedBull for 2024 alongside Max Verstappen.
And its a wise decission, you gain a really good second driver, and one who knows the team and team knows him, also he tested all the year the last car, so.... win win.
In personal words, i like to see him coming back, Daniel its always a charmfull guy.
Ultimately Checo Perez maybe see Daniel Ricciardo as a threat in his seat, but RedBull surely sees this as a motivational thing for Checo, which for me is not really helping because right now Sergio Perez is under more pressure than he ever looks but Sergio Perez still got the points lead and he still got half the calendar to fill so yeah let's just look forward on what may happen to him in the next season, because it is highly unlikely that he will be replaced this season, I have certain doubts that Ricciardo was taken to Alfa Tauri in order to look at his preserved skills with the expectation of then raising him to Red Bull in case of a successful performance, although this cannot be ruled out if Ricciardo suddenly starts to enchant and constantly take the podiums to Alfa Tauri. But no, most likely Red Bull is more likely to bargain for time until the end of the season to decide on new candidates for a place in their two teams, because to be honest, De Vries just showed himself terribly, and Red Bull was always quick to deal with his losers who did not use the chance given to them.
Well, Daniel Ricciardo has a lot of rest time in the F1 field and this is likely to just keep him at pace on how to drive a real F1 card feels like, then with the Simulation Races to test the car, For sure he has accepted it for some reason and to gain traction to his career, and AlphaTauri is still associated with RedBull so he still in RedBull technically, and sad to say for Nyck De Vries he got to move on on this I just wish he got the heart to accept it,
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I think the plan of RB its pretty easy, if Ricciardo performs good on AlphaTauri what its left of the season he its gonna be again in RedBull for 2024 alongside Max Verstappen.
And its a wise decission, you gain a really good second driver, and one who knows the team and team knows him, also he tested all the year the last car, so.... win win.
In personal words, i like to see him coming back, Daniel its always a charmfull guy.
Ultimately Checo Perez maybe see Daniel Ricciardo as a threat in his seat, but RedBull surely sees this as a motivational thing for Checo, which for me is not really helping because right now Sergio Perez is under more pressure than he ever looks but Sergio Perez still got the points lead and he still got half the calendar to fill so yeah let's just look forward on what may happen to him in the next season, because it is highly unlikely that he will be replaced this season, Im gonna say a very controversial thing, for me Checo Perez its out of Red Bull no matter what, because the relationship its broken between him and the team, and also i think the team play "dirty" with him. It was very strange , when he started to complain against team orders and some MV things suddenly his car start to develop really bad and also him..... really suspicious, i dont think he is driving so bad for me the car was nerf, i dont find other exlanation.
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I think the plan of RB its pretty easy, if Ricciardo performs good on AlphaTauri what its left of the season he its gonna be again in RedBull for 2024 alongside Max Verstappen.
And its a wise decission, you gain a really good second driver, and one who knows the team and team knows him, also he tested all the year the last car, so.... win win.
In personal words, i like to see him coming back, Daniel its always a charmfull guy.
Ultimately Checo Perez maybe see Daniel Ricciardo as a threat in his seat, but RedBull surely sees this as a motivational thing for Checo, which for me is not really helping because right now Sergio Perez is under more pressure than he ever looks but Sergio Perez still got the points lead and he still got half the calendar to fill so yeah let's just look forward on what may happen to him in the next season, because it is highly unlikely that he will be replaced this season, Im gonna say a very controversial thing, for me Checo Perez its out of Red Bull no matter what, because the relationship its broken between him and the team, and also i think the team play "dirty" with him. It was very strange , when he started to complain against team orders and some MV things suddenly his car start to develop really bad and also him..... really suspicious, i dont think he is driving so bad for me the car was nerf, i dont find other explanation. Isn't Ferrari treating Sainz the exact same way though? Atleast that is how it sounds if you listen to their back and forth on the team radio calls during all the races since the beginning of the season. Maybe except for the very first race in Bahrain where he had reached fourth place. Or maybe it is like this because he is the second driver. So Perez and Sainz are treated in the exact same way by their team, as second fiddles to the main men driving.
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Liam Lawson looks like a good alternative at this point, he has been driving with Red Bull for a while and he is younger. Why am I saying this? Because if Riccardio doesn't race amazingly well, and I mean like not just good, literally amazingly well, then why put him at that second driver position instead of Perez?
Plus, he may do well enough to be staying at AT there is no doubt about that but that's just one team, and it's not the car Red Bull has, different car and as you can see from the results it's not one of the best cars neither, Yuki did alright but I am not sensing it's going to change much. So all in all I feel like DR will stay at AT next season, and Perez will leave and that should end up with something much better later on.
I don't really knew Liam Lawson, as I am not really well verse on other drivers or mostly past drivers of the F1 other than Michael Shumacher of course, but yeah if Nyck De Vries is out of the AlphaTauri and Daniel Ricciardo is up I think in there Ricciardo can showcase if he is a better driver than Yuki Tsunoda or we could see an equal level for the same car, and so Liam Lawson could get a position next season if Sergio Perez couldn't keep up to the performance of Max Verstappen, or not then Daniel Ricciardo is up next season for RedBull then Lawson could enter Alpha Tauri for the meantime, I really think that could happen next season for sure, @owentang09 I seen the videoclips of the new Brad Pitt movie about F1. They haven't decided on a name yet for the film about a fictional F1 team and him playing an aging driver who has to come back to the team he once left. Making this scenario with Ricciardo seem like his sudden path back to the Red Bull team inwhich he started with come full circle. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I really think that they will showcase another great story telling and a sure great movie this coming years and this is all about the F1 race which is not really been on topic there is a movie back in 2013 about the Formula One race and the movie was titled Rush the story was about James Hunt and was portrayed by Chris Hemsworth I really don't see the movie yet but maybe I will watch it for sure, but with the latest Brad Pitt movie there is no specific driver that they are portraying and the story was about an Formula One driver struggling about father time,
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Isn't Ferrari treating Sainz the exact same way though? Atleast that is how it sounds if you listen to their back and forth on the team radio calls during all the races since the beginning of the season. Maybe except for the very first race in Bahrain where he had reached fourth place. Or maybe it is like this because he is the second driver. So Perez and Sainz are treated in the exact same way by their team, as second fiddles to the main men driving.
Yes you have a point here, but i think Sainz have a combination of bad luck plus Ferrari clown moves (the same Leclerc suffer) and also when he have to put an amazing drive he doesnt make any super performance. Then we can say he its not en possition to claim so much. Perez in the other hand its clearly not at the same level as MV but he have so really good races.
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Isn't Ferrari treating Sainz the exact same way though? Atleast that is how it sounds if you listen to their back and forth on the team radio calls during all the races since the beginning of the season. Maybe except for the very first race in Bahrain where he had reached fourth place. Or maybe it is like this because he is the second driver. So Perez and Sainz are treated in the exact same way by their team, as second fiddles to the main men driving.
Yes you have a point here, but i think Sainz have a combination of bad luck plus Ferrari clown moves (the same Leclerc suffer) and also when he have to put an amazing drive he doesnt make any super performance. Then we can say he its not en possition to claim so much. Perez in the other hand its clearly not at the same level as MV but he have so really good races. There has been alot of talk of drivers moving around to different teams lately. So nothing at this point would be a surprise to hear. Even on the Sportsbet F1 pool thread for the forum there has been a prediction that Norris will move to Ferrari by 2025. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5441078.msg62551408#msg62551408This we will have to see it to believe it really. With Tsunoda going to Aston Martin and Ricciardo settling at Red Bull in a few driver swap out between those two teams is more plausible than this discussion really. But you never know.
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Im gonna say a very controversial thing, for me Checo Perez its out of Red Bull no matter what, because the relationship its broken between him and the team, and also i think the team play "dirty" with him. It was very strange , when he started to complain against team orders and some MV things suddenly his car start to develop really bad and also him..... really suspicious, i dont think he is driving so bad for me the car was nerf, i dont find other exlanation.
It could have been the case but I don't really think that the team is treating Perez like that in my opinion and that Nerfing the car was all speculation only but we can surely give our opinion about it, and Sergio Perez is looking determined in the Last Austria GP, that he did the podium, it is just a coincidence that the other team's upgrade has caused him to fail so much against Verstappen, well you can surely get different results with the race, and I really don't think that the team will Sabbotage Perez F1 machine just to kick him out, the RedBull Management can likely do it if the chemistry between drivers fall down and when Perez Decided that he can take the role of Max Verstappen I really think as a 2nd driver he is the one who should let his teammate that is on front to just stay on to it, well on 2018 when Daniel Ricciardo was on Verstappen front he just lets Ricciardo on front and stay on the back of Daniel Ricciardo because he said it was discipline, well back then RedBull doesn't have a number 1 and a number 2 driver so the 2 RedBull is allowed to compete at 1 another and they feel sorry when both driver crash they said they just want to race each other, now Sergio Perez is the number 2 driver for me he should act as number 2, Yes you have a point here, but i think Sainz have a combination of bad luck plus Ferrari clown moves (the same Leclerc suffer) and also when he have to put an amazing drive he doesnt make any super performance. Then we can say he its not en possition to claim so much. Perez in the other hand its clearly not at the same level as MV but he have so really good races.
For me if Sergio Perez is out of the RedBull I really wish he can get back into another team and maybe on Ferrari I really think that Sergio Perez is fit to the Ferrari Moniker, and exchange to Carlos Sainz maybe, but this could take place when RedBull decided to take out Sergio Perez to the team, and if Carlos Sainz is having a bad time then he should completely leave the Ferrari team,
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Yes you have a point here, but i think Sainz have a combination of bad luck plus Ferrari clown moves (the same Leclerc suffer) and also when he have to put an amazing drive he doesnt make any super performance. Then we can say he its not en possition to claim so much. Perez in the other hand its clearly not at the same level as MV but he have so really good races.
For me, Ferrari just has some poor decision-making in switching tires and reading the situations if there is rain or wet floor coming the way that has caused them a lot of race at the podium, for sure but these two Ferraris surely also have some grip on the F1 and you will surely never know when they will stop because their perseverance is awesome aswell, While Sergio Perez you can not compare Vax Verstappen to Sergio Perez they might have the same RB19 machine but their skills and technique are way beyond different and the upgrading team teams they surely are getting the upgrade and the improvement they want to have while Sergio Perez is still the same pace in his recent performance and RedBull is not surely happy about it, There has been alot of talk of drivers moving around to different teams lately. So nothing at this point would be a surprise to hear. Even on the Sportsbet F1 pool thread for the forum there has been a prediction that Norris will move to Ferrari by 2025. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5441078.msg62551408#msg62551408This we will have to see it to believe it really. With Tsunoda going to Aston Martin and Ricciardo settling at Red Bull in a few driver swap out between those two teams is more plausible than this discussion really. But you never know. Anything can happen in a blink of an eye and just like that the teams can surely change their driver in an instant without fair warning well Lando Norris could be at any team that he wants and if that team really wants him, but in the recent upgrade of the McLaren I really think that Norris is satisfied with the performance of his Machine so maybe there will be a change of Driver or maybe not, but for sure the most important here is what is happening now and Nyck De Vries is out and Daniel Ricciardo is In for now that is certain a fact,
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This week we will have the GP in Hungary. The track is very boring after Monaco is the one where is almost impossible to overtake.
Not only this, but they also decided to do the sprint race on this track.
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July 16, 2023, 09:22:55 PM |
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This week we will have the GP in Hungary. The track is very boring after Monaco is the one where is almost impossible to overtake.
Not only this, but they also decided to do the sprint race on this track.
Well , last year we had the epic defend of Alonso right ? So at least we can have some defender drivers putting up a show and I'm sure Alonso will be one of them. Furthermore , if Aston Martin has a good practice mode but also a qualifying session , I can see Alonso being on the podium with most likely P3. However, my prediction is on McLaren as I think they will secure again a podium and I do hope it will be Piastri this time but with both cars on points as they need that desperately. <3 Sprint race on this is kinda meh but we will see ...maybe we get a surprise with this race.
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July 16, 2023, 10:05:33 PM |
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This week we will have the GP in Hungary. The track is very boring after Monaco is the one where is almost impossible to overtake.
Not only this, but they also decided to do the sprint race on this track.
This coming week for sure because this week is a break for all F1 fans and for the F1 drivers themselves, and regarding the Circuit being boring, well it is because of the lack of straight for this Hungary Circuit, the Hungaroring, and it is certainly compared to a karting circuit that is why you are saying it is a boring track, but it is more challenging for drivers because of the lack of straights meaning there is that short opportunity for drivers to make the acceleration and because of that many corners the car will need its downforce to work properly and certainly in those corners would surely tend great battles in gaining the position, Well , last year we had the epic defend of Alonso right ? So at least we can have some defender drivers putting up a show and I'm sure Alonso will be one of them. Furthermore , if Aston Martin has a good practice mode but also a qualifying session , I can see Alonso being on the podium with most likely P3. However, my prediction is on McLaren as I think they will secure again a podium and I do hope it will be Piastri this time but with both cars on points as they need that desperately. <3
Sprint race on this is kinda meh but we will see ...maybe we get a surprise with this race.
Well, the F1 Hungary Grand Prix will certainly is in its normal mode this time and will only consist of 3 practice session, a qualifier, and the main Race, so yeah, and McLaren has a good run last GP, so many are now speculating that Lando Norris will make another podium or Oscar Piastri could now land the podium this time, well that is because of the McLaren upgrades but for me, it all got to do with the livery but kidding aside I think it is all in the skills and talent of their drivers that they landed in the Podium on the Great Britain GP, and it was the 1st Podium of Lando Norris this season,
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July 18, 2023, 06:29:59 AM |
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This week we will have the GP in Hungary. The track is very boring after Monaco is the one where is almost impossible to overtake.
Not only this, but they also decided to do the sprint race on this track.
For me in this track we will surely see the inginuinity of the drivers and the Hungaroring is truly twisty and tight for drivers to have a difficult time in overtaking, and that is somewhat producing some boring races but for me this is an opportunity to see genuine drivers that can likely make something out of this tight situation and I really want to see this Circuit and for sure this track has many good view for spectators because if is build in a valley and if Max Verstappen still finishes 1st or at the podium surely he is one of a good driver making a quick progression in every track he come across, Well , last year we had the epic defend of Alonso right ? So at least we can have some defender drivers putting up a show and I'm sure Alonso will be one of them. Furthermore , if Aston Martin has a good practice mode but also a qualifying session , I can see Alonso being on the podium with most likely P3. However, my prediction is on McLaren as I think they will secure again a podium and I do hope it will be Piastri this time but with both cars on points as they need that desperately. <3
Sprint race on this is kinda meh but we will see ...maybe we get a surprise with this race.
Actually most poles in the Hungaroring are Michael Schumacher, and Lewis Hamilton and most wins are for Hamilton so maybe Lewis Hamilton still have the finishing touches he needs to make it to podium for the Hungary but let see even with the possibility of lack in overtake maybe some drivers may surprise us with something for this track you may never know if Lando Norris is practicing something in the F1 Simulation ahead for this track same goes to Max Verstappen, because Simulation race is something of a cheat code for racers that are actually familiar with it, Right now we got an Sportsbet.io Hungarian Grand Prix Prediction Contest going on right now you can surely put on your picks and win free bets, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5460126.msg62565427#msg62565427
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July 18, 2023, 11:10:47 AM |
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This week we will have the GP in Hungary. The track is very boring after Monaco is the one where is almost impossible to overtake.
Exactly, it's very difficult to overtake in Hungary, also the Ring is not exactly a fast track, should be an advantage again especially for RedBull. Last year Mercedes was very close to RedBull at the Hungaroring, but I think the layout of the circuit could also benefit Alonso and Ferrari?
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July 18, 2023, 03:25:43 PM |
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This week we will have the GP in Hungary. The track is very boring after Monaco is the one where is almost impossible to overtake.
Exactly, it's very difficult to overtake in Hungary, also the Ring is not exactly a fast track, should be an advantage again especially for RedBull. Last year Mercedes was very close to RedBull at the Hungaroring, but I think the layout of the circuit could also benefit Alonso and Ferrari? I think you misunderstood coinlocket$. He said Monaco is the impossible overtake. You should know that it is Monaco where it's hard to overtake especially these few years ago when the car is larger than ever. Monaco is definitely the circuit that is hard to overtake in. For GP in Hungary, there are portions of the track that could be utilized to overtake, so that would be an advantage. Let's see what happens in the practice and qualifiers.
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July 18, 2023, 05:45:53 PM |
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Monaco is definitely "boring" if nothing happens, but sometimes things do happen and that's when it becomes entertaining. Like I remember last year being quite fun if I am not misremembering which one it was, that felt like a good one.
Hopefully they will do as much as they can on Hungary as well, there is a "story" or narrative this week, that will be basically a blue print for a whole episode of drive to survive, which is Ricciardio coming back, that's going to be like a celebration all by itself. He is also quite good when it comes to Hungary as well, so I am expecting him to be doing very well, if he passes his teammate on the very first game, that's going to be pretty awesome without a doubt, but that will require a bit of challenge of course.
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July 19, 2023, 11:12:47 AM |
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Monaco is definitely "boring" if nothing happens, but sometimes things do happen and that's when it becomes entertaining. Like I remember last year being quite fun if I am not misremembering which one it was, that felt like a good one.
Hopefully they will do as much as they can on Hungary as well, there is a "story" or narrative this week, that will be basically a blue print for a whole episode of drive to survive, which is Ricciardio coming back, that's going to be like a celebration all by itself. He is also quite good when it comes to Hungary as well, so I am expecting him to be doing very well, if he passes his teammate on the very first game, that's going to be pretty awesome without a doubt, but that will require a bit of challenge of course.
This Hungary track in a way is like Monaco where it is nearly impossible to overtake but there is one long straight where drivers can enable DRS then there is a very short straight away but this a very winding track with 14 corners. As for Riccciardo, his competition will be his car. As we all know the Alpha Tauri's are one of the slowest cars on the track. So I don't see him getting to high up on the grid for the beginning of this race. Give him a few more to let him ease into being with a new team and have him feel out the new car first I would say.
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July 19, 2023, 01:19:05 PM |
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This week we will have the GP in Hungary. The track is very boring after Monaco is the one where is almost impossible to overtake.
Not only this, but they also decided to do the sprint race on this track.
I remember being tempted to go back to home favorites in Monaco but that totally didn't work out. I won't fall for it again, just gonna follow what drivers have good form and then hope that they are able to replicate that. Does anyone ever bet on No top 10 finishes? I keep losing and odds are small on that market but seems certain on this track ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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July 19, 2023, 06:39:39 PM |
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Last year in this track Russel wins no?
Well not, i go to check and not, he make the pole but not ended wining the race, but that race mark the reborn of Mercedes, and their have a very good last run after that. In the race they make two podiums with Hamilton second and George in third place.
I dont know what to expect, asides of Max Verstappen 99% chance of win.
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First of all there is no sprint race on this track for this season but maybe they would do it in the next one. The next race weekend with a sprint race is going to be just after Hungarian GP which is in Spa, Belgium. For Hungarian GP I don't expect a big surprise about the winner of course. There should be another race Verstappen wins easily. I wonder what Perez will do in qualifying this time. He has been messing things up for himself in the recent times and he just makes his job very difficult about making it to podium.
I wonder what the reason behind this downfall in his qualifying performance. He still has the fastest car on the grid compared to other teams in the end.
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