Stakemeharder
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May 02, 2023, 06:29:50 AM |
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My Rollbit account got shutdown and they still won't explain to met what terms of service I broke. They keep 10.2k of my funds and won't respond to any emails. Really surprised by this... Read more on the thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5449402.20
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worle1bm
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May 02, 2023, 07:24:14 AM |
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Avoiding trouble, grasping casino policies? Priceless. Better safe than sorry, folks. Trust me, it's worth it.
Even if you are sorry it won't help you at last because ignorance of the law is not a plea in real world also so same goes here also.As you said better be safe at first only so reading the terms is much better because if the casino is trying to make you fool you also have the idea about what was mentioned in their terms.
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tusandii
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May 02, 2023, 07:25:40 AM |
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Laziness won't cut it for dodging rule-reading. Knowing casino rules? A must. No one wants surprises down the road. But let's face it, sifting through endless regulations? Intimidating.
We have to know the rules well and laziness is not an excuse not to read all the rules because I'm sure anyone would never want to get into trouble just because they broke the rules. Having a willingness to read the rules can prevent gamblers from making mistakes while in the casino. Intimidating? just explain a little buddy what is the meaning and example of intimidating? Avoiding trouble, grasping casino policies? Priceless. Better safe than sorry, folks. Trust me, it's worth it.
Yes, avoiding problems would be better so that we feel calm and comfortable while gambling. So far I have always avoided and complied with the rules in every casino including Rollbit and sure enough I never had the slightest problem at any casino I used.
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arallmuus
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May 02, 2023, 09:59:38 AM |
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-snip I had this confirmed when I requested the support to close down my other account and said that they allow multi-account as long as player don't exploit the platform. There is no merit in using multiple account anyway. There is higher rakeback and other perks of getting higher rank in Rollbit so I dont see why people are going to use different account when they play unless they are planning to abuse it obviously. I guess this is one of the perks of not having mandatory KYC in Rollbit though therefore they allowed people to use multiplie accounts as long as you dont 'abuse' anything
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worle1bm
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May 03, 2023, 08:12:16 AM |
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Yes, avoiding problems would be better so that we feel calm and comfortable while gambling. So far I have always avoided and complied with the rules in every casino including Rollbit and sure enough I never had the slightest problem at any casino I used.
If you are playing within their rules and are not withdrawing huge amounts you would not face any problems.The problem arises in certain cases like suppose a user had multiple accounts problem and casino has mentioned this as violation or any other issues they will take action against player but if you are normally playing it won't affect you much.
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Strongkored
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May 03, 2023, 08:55:06 AM |
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Yes, avoiding problems would be better so that we feel calm and comfortable while gambling. So far I have always avoided and complied with the rules in every casino including Rollbit and sure enough I never had the slightest problem at any casino I used.
If you are playing within their rules and are not withdrawing huge amounts you would not face any problems.The problem arises in certain cases like suppose a user had multiple accounts problem and casino has mentioned this as violation or any other issues they will take action against player but if you are normally playing it won't affect you much. Saying that withdrawing big money will bring players into trouble is not entirely true because you can see in rollbit a lot of whales players who will definitely use big money to play and the wins that will be obtained are also very likely to be huge and none of them complain when they do withdrawal means they can receive the money smoothly. Only players who are suspected because the casino sees suspicious activity that will get him in trouble, as long as the person is playing normally and doesn't break the rules then it will be safe. Also I can't understand why there are players who do multiple accounts at a casino, I don't understand the benefits they will get by doing this, unless the casino is holding promotions such as bonuses it is very possible for players to abused by doing multiple accounts, but multi accounts for normal play makes no sense in my opinion.
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arwin100
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May 03, 2023, 11:19:22 AM |
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Yes, avoiding problems would be better so that we feel calm and comfortable while gambling. So far I have always avoided and complied with the rules in every casino including Rollbit and sure enough I never had the slightest problem at any casino I used.
If you are playing within their rules and are not withdrawing huge amounts you would not face any problems.The problem arises in certain cases like suppose a user had multiple accounts problem and casino has mentioned this as violation or any other issues they will take action against player but if you are normally playing it won't affect you much. Saying that withdrawing big money will bring players into trouble is not entirely true because you can see in rollbit a lot of whales players who will definitely use big money to play and the wins that will be obtained are also very likely to be huge and none of them complain when they do withdrawal means they can receive the money smoothly. Only players who are suspected because the casino sees suspicious activity that will get him in trouble, as long as the person is playing normally and doesn't break the rules then it will be safe. Also I can't understand why there are players who do multiple accounts at a casino, I don't understand the benefits they will get by doing this, unless the casino is holding promotions such as bonuses it is very possible for players to abused by doing multiple accounts, but multi accounts for normal play makes no sense in my opinion. If that is true then for sure no whales will play on their casino but we don't see that happening so this is false information only. Maybe they will be ask to submit their identity for verification since this is what actually the best thing to do by a casino since we don't know if the owner request that or just a hacker so it can give a relief to the owners if they just look at the positive side of KYC. Maybe some other create multiple account to exploit the contest held and get more higher advantage to win. But any reason aside from that there's no really use to create more than one account since you can deposit your desired capital and play.
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BlackBoss_
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May 03, 2023, 01:22:18 PM |
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Saying that withdrawing big money will bring players into trouble is not entirely true because you can see in rollbit a lot of whales players who will definitely use big money to play and the wins that will be obtained are also very likely to be huge and none of them complain when they do withdrawal means they can receive the money smoothly.
It is not true. Withdrawing big money is nothing serious if the casino is legit and has deep pocket to pay the user. They should have budget to pay users when they launch their business. Without such deep budget, they can turn to scam anytime especially when they suddenly have to approve and proceed big withdrawal. Only players who are suspected because the casino sees suspicious activity that will get him in trouble, as long as the person is playing normally and doesn't break the rules then it will be safe.
Casinos have to pay users for win bets so they are not tolerable against suspicious activities and activities which go against their Terms of service. It makes sense as if they are not strict with it, they will open gates for bad users to compromise their platforms. Also I can't understand why there are players who do multiple accounts at a casino, I don't understand the benefits they will get by doing this, unless the casino is holding promotions such as bonuses it is very possible for players to abused by doing multiple accounts, but multi accounts for normal play makes no sense in my opinion.
There are many reasons. Except bad intention to use multiple accounts to cheat the casino including bonuses, free spins, etc. I think there is another reason which makes sense. Like you have an account on the casino but didn't use it for along time. You forgot registration information of that account so when you want to use it, you create your second account which violate most of casino rules. The safest way is to open a support ticket and go first to ask the casino to check your existing account as well as will they accept if you open your second account. Some casinos can support you to deactivate your previous accounts.
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May 03, 2023, 01:30:47 PM |
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There are many reasons. Except bad intention to use multiple accounts to cheat the casino including bonuses, free spins, etc. I think there is another reason which makes sense. Like you have an account on the casino but didn't use it for along time. You forgot registration information of that account so when you want to use it, you create your second account which violate most of casino rules.
The safest way is to open a support ticket and go first to ask the casino to check your existing account as well as will they accept if you open your second account. Some casinos can support you to deactivate your previous accounts.
As long as you're still have access to the email you used during registration, you're fine because you can use forgot password to set up a new password. You're correct, asking the live support about your matter is the best thing in order to prevent anything ban that could happen. Like want to create a new account due to can't have any access to your old account, asking to allow VPN usage since the ISP block the casino etc.
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ryzaadit
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May 03, 2023, 05:41:22 PM |
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Based of my experience. Multiple-account are most the time from "Sportbook" user. Why? even they're not taking any bonus, they trying to multiple-account the casino because new account is always have limited amount to be betting for sportsbook. That's why, they multi-account on the site. Sometimes, there has some unwritten rules in casino (Multi-account can be acceptable as long the user not using anymore the old account or trying to abused promotion or referral).
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BlackBoss_
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May 04, 2023, 12:57:10 AM |
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Multiple-account are most the time from "Sportbook" user. Why? even they're not taking any bonus, they trying to multiple-account the casino because new account is always have limited amount to be betting for sportsbook.
That's why, they multi-account on the site. Sometimes, there has some unwritten rules in casino (Multi-account can be acceptable as long the user not using anymore the old account or trying to abused promotion or referral).
It is true on some casinos. They allow you to create your second or third account and use it with a condition that you abandon your previous account. I would like to go first to ask support team about my previous accounts if I forgot about those ones. I don't want to have issues because I don't go first. I read some fake scam accusations of cheaters tried to attack casino. Those cases end like they have multiple accounts, and have similar betting pattern in a same tournament, same type of sports, same ways of betting. It's very hard to see a trusted casino handles those cases against users not correctly. They know that incorrect handles are harmful for their reputation and they are always careful about their investigation and decision making.
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Actually, not everything has to be read, but there are important points that we must know, in the sense that we only read the outline, that's the minimum we have to do before we register and also play at the casino. That at least reduces the risk that will be experienced in the future which is closely related to withdrawal later. Because the problem that I often hear is about withdrawals. Many people are trapped by this, so that in addition to harming themselves it is also detrimental to the casino. The reason is they don't hesitate to blame the casino when they have a real problem from their own fault.
Reading the outline is part of the quick scroll that I'm saying. Withdrawal problem tends to happen when you have done something that is against the rules of the casino. One example of this is using VPN, You can do gamble in the casino and possibly win but if you're about to withdraw your funds, The casino will flag your withdrawal and will just say that you didn't comply to their T&C. This commonly happen on most of the casino so we all should be careful with their own rules. One thing why gambler hates the casino that didn't let them withdraw is the secrecy of the casino, I believe that some casino isn't even transparent on the rule that the gambler broke and this will leave questions to the gambler. There's even a history of false accusation on some casinos that's why I also hate casino that don't disclose why they block someone's withdrawal. Yes, it cannot be denied that there are casinos that are not transparent, but those are casinos that don't have big names, or you could say they are closer to fraud. This is something different, because if we play at a well-known and trusted casino we will find terms and conditions that must be met by users, for example withdrawal conditions. If we want to be safe from irresponsible casinos, then the choice is that we have to play at a trusted casino, that is the best choice. There are many casinos that have that particularity, usually I have seen some that are casino Reviewers looking to have some free Advertising on the forum and when I review them they have platforms that seem to be incredible, but upon simple inspection you can see clearly that it can turn out to be a fraudulent casino or that it seems to be one, Especially those casinos that are played for free and that you win and when you try to withdraw money they Tell you that you have to enter a deposit,and when they do they keep asking for more, that is the typical fraudulent casino.
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May 04, 2023, 09:30:36 AM |
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Multiple-account are most the time from "Sportbook" user. Why? even they're not taking any bonus, they trying to multiple-account the casino because new account is always have limited amount to be betting for sportsbook.
That's why, they multi-account on the site. Sometimes, there has some unwritten rules in casino (Multi-account can be acceptable as long the user not using anymore the old account or trying to abused promotion or referral).
It is true on some casinos. They allow you to create your second or third account and use it with a condition that you abandon your previous account. I would like to go first to ask support team about my previous accounts if I forgot about those ones. I don't want to have issues because I don't go first. I read some fake scam accusations of cheaters tried to attack casino. Those cases end like they have multiple accounts, and have similar betting pattern in a same tournament, same type of sports, same ways of betting. It's very hard to see a trusted casino handles those cases against users not correctly. They know that incorrect handles are harmful for their reputation and they are always careful about their investigation and decision making. Okay, let's cut to the chase: multi-accounting in online casinos? Cheating with a fancy name. Some folks claim it's for skirting limits or promotions, but really, it's a sneaky game that tarnishes the whole shebang. Casinos might ignore it, but they need to stand firm against these shenanigans for a level, fair playing field. Nobody enjoys losing to a cheat, folks. But wait, it's not just the casinos' job to squash multi-accounting. Players, too, should step up and embrace honesty, integrity – the whole nine yards. So, the multi-accounting debate boils down to this: are you in it to win it, no holds barred, or do you want to play fair and square, respecting your fellow gamblers?
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Yes, avoiding problems would be better so that we feel calm and comfortable while gambling. So far I have always avoided and complied with the rules in every casino including Rollbit and sure enough I never had the slightest problem at any casino I used.
If you are playing within their rules and are not withdrawing huge amounts you would not face any problems.The problem arises in certain cases like suppose a user had multiple accounts problem and casino has mentioned this as violation or any other issues they will take action against player but if you are normally playing it won't affect you much. I made a withdrawal with a certain amount first to see which casino I used, if when using a big casino that I have provided verification from the start of registering then there is no doubt and fear of having problems to make a withdrawal of a larger amount but when I'm in non KYC casinos which may be considered still tend not to be really popular and large I prefer to do several withdrawal processes to avoid problems that can occur because not all casinos can give us problems just because a withdrawal is made. Having multiple accounts on one casino site is clearly a prohibition on all existing sites and violates the rules so don't let us do something like that. After all we gamble for fun and use some money so we have to be able to understand everything so we don't get into trouble in the gambling industry.
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May 04, 2023, 11:08:30 AM |
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Laziness won't cut it for dodging rule-reading. Knowing casino rules? A must. No one wants surprises down the road. But let's face it, sifting through endless regulations? Intimidating.
We have to know the rules well and laziness is not an excuse not to read all the rules because I'm sure anyone would never want to get into trouble just because they broke the rules. Having a willingness to read the rules can prevent gamblers from making mistakes while in the casino. Intimidating? just explain a little buddy what is the meaning and example of intimidating? I feel like laziness and lack of attention span are very legit reasons these days. Humanity has been getting into that comforting zone for decades now, it has taken a while but we are really modernized in that way, everything that developed and improved is for that. It means that the world is designed in a way where we just work, and then waste our time doing nothing, and then sleep, that's it. Why do you think celebs get that much money? They prevent us from doing anything, we watch their sports, their movies, their tv shows, and then we sleep, and repeat, until we die. So if people fail to read the rules at rollbit, that is because world is designed to make them lazy enough to read that. We need to read it, we need to read a lot more, we need to keep reading to be better.
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Laziness won't cut it for dodging rule-reading. Knowing casino rules? A must. No one wants surprises down the road. But let's face it, sifting through endless regulations? Intimidating.
We have to know the rules well and laziness is not an excuse not to read all the rules because I'm sure anyone would never want to get into trouble just because they broke the rules. Having a willingness to read the rules can prevent gamblers from making mistakes while in the casino. Intimidating? just explain a little buddy what is the meaning and example of intimidating? I feel like laziness and lack of attention span are very legit reasons these days. Humanity has been getting into that comforting zone for decades now, it has taken a while but we are really modernized in that way, everything that developed and improved is for that. It means that the world is designed in a way where we just work, and then waste our time doing nothing, and then sleep, that's it. Why do you think celebs get that much money? They prevent us from doing anything, we watch their sports, their movies, their tv shows, and then we sleep, and repeat, until we die. So if people fail to read the rules at rollbit, that is because world is designed to make them lazy enough to read that. We need to read it, we need to read a lot more, we need to keep reading to be better. Isnt really that a huge issue for people not to read up sites terms and conditions? If they arent really that fond of on doing so then just let them.They are the ones who would really be able to suffer out if ever they would be able to violate one of those things.It is really that normal that people would really be staying up on their comfort zone and would really be preferring on doing nothing at all or not really that doing something that could bring up sweat or much hassle into their body. lol. I dont know on why this TOS discussions keep on being repeated considering that this had been discussed on previous pages. Each of site does have their own terms and conditions which might differ into other one.This is why reading up only the key points would be important specially when you are tending to play on a certain site that you are planning to deposit on.
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I feel like laziness and lack of attention span are very legit reasons these days. Humanity has been getting into that comforting zone for decades now, it has taken a while but we are really modernized in that way, everything that developed and improved is for that.
It means that the world is designed in a way where we just work, and then waste our time doing nothing, and then sleep, that's it. Why do you think celebs get that much money? They prevent us from doing anything, we watch their sports, their movies, their tv shows, and then we sleep, and repeat, until we die. So if people fail to read the rules at rollbit, that is because world is designed to make them lazy enough to read that. We need to read it, we need to read a lot more, we need to keep reading to be better.
As long as we can't fight laziness, then we will always get losses, and that happens not only in the world of gambling, and it happens in real life. We can take examples of small things like this, like reading the terms and conditions. Why do I say this is a small thing? the reason is actually this is very easy to do, but when laziness has taken over us, no matter how easy the job is, we will never want to do it. And it's true that recently there has been some sort of emergency reading campaign.
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May 04, 2023, 05:05:32 PM |
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Based of my experience. Multiple-account are most the time from "Sportbook" user. Why? even they're not taking any bonus, they trying to multiple-account the casino because new account is always have limited amount to be betting for sportsbook. That's why, they multi-account on the site. Sometimes, there has some unwritten rules in casino (Multi-account can be acceptable as long the user not using anymore the old account or trying to abused promotion or referral). This is just a generalization. Anyone can multi-account, no matter which background you have so long as you have an intent to cheat or game the system. They change it because they wanted to take advantage of an exploit that they found out, or they want to evade bans and restrictions. Whatever it is, the casino reserves the right to suspend accounts or to even ban them when necessary. They're a business to make money, not a challenge that needs to be broken by some individuals that found out some exploits and abuse it.
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ryzaadit
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May 04, 2023, 05:58:11 PM |
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Feel free to ask. If you lose the "Email" there is no way you can recover the account right ? so you need to create an account again and some casino are very welcome to bring back their customer. Off course with a condition like I said. -snip-
If a casino doesn't have a promotion. The cheating is always like I said, want to get more amount to be betting for sportsbook user or abused the referral system by register under their link.
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danadc
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May 04, 2023, 09:19:55 PM |
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I feel like laziness and lack of attention span are very legit reasons these days. Humanity has been getting into that comforting zone for decades now, it has taken a while but we are really modernized in that way, everything that developed and improved is for that.
It means that the world is designed in a way where we just work, and then waste our time doing nothing, and then sleep, that's it. Why do you think celebs get that much money? They prevent us from doing anything, we watch their sports, their movies, their tv shows, and then we sleep, and repeat, until we die. So if people fail to read the rules at rollbit, that is because world is designed to make them lazy enough to read that. We need to read it, we need to read a lot more, we need to keep reading to be better.
As long as we can't fight laziness, then we will always get losses, and that happens not only in the world of gambling, and it happens in real life. We can take examples of small things like this, like reading the terms and conditions. Why do I say this is a small thing? the reason is actually this is very easy to do, but when laziness has taken over us, no matter how easy the job is, we will never want to do it. And it's true that recently there has been some sort of emergency reading campaign. I plead guilty for not reading some of the bonus rules and some casino conditions and I have paid dearly for it, it has been hard for me to leave the money and not comply with the conditions, because if I had read before grabbing that bonus the things would have been very different, this means that every time we start to see every detail of a bond there is always something that does not add up to us and there, if we choose whether it is convenient or not, this has happened to me many times, and I have Quite a few things to do, a bonus or promotion that has been launched by rollbit is different, this casino does not abuse the terms and conditions of bonuses like other casinos.
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