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July 07, 2021, 10:18:03 PM
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To be honest I didn't read all of them, but only read a few important point.



Doing the same thing I subscribe to their newsletter if there are any and there channel if there are changes in their rules and terms, majority of these gambling sites have the same terms of service and rules, and it's a waste of time to get back there and read, again and again, a trusted gambling site will always have notification if they have changes in their rules and terms, suspicious sites will not do that.
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July 08, 2021, 12:21:26 PM
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It is the first thing you should do even before registering on that casino you wish to play as Terms and conditions are list of rules that will provide you all the details of the casino related to deposit, withdrawal,fees and other information.There are usually long list of points which every gambler must read but many times player ignore this and ask the same question like when will my withdrawal be processed? And deposit the wrong coin to and other technical issue which all are at first clarified in T&C of that casino.If there is any change in that list and new update then you must check it and have information about all the rules in advance so that you don't have any further problems.

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July 08, 2021, 12:24:05 PM
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My stance on reading the TOS or not is that I think that it's a futile thing to do because if you read it, and you find that some parts of the TOS isn't agreeable, you won't accept it meaning that you won't be able to access the site since most of them don't allow players to enter if they don't agree with their TOS.
It's the most fruitful thing to do if you can read their ToS and find a problem because even though you cannot agree to those terms and hence cannot register, at least you are saved from a potential loss. I can't believe people are so desperate and craving to gamble that they are ready to agree on some vengeful terms and conditions just so that they can gamble right away.

If you read the ToS and find something vengeful you should just inform the support and ask for more clarity or you can create a thread in the reputation section and ask others' opinions on the matter. I am sure most of the crypto casinos are more than ready to make amends and edit any policy that can scare away their potential customers.

Not reading ToS just because you fear you can't join the casino if something is wrong, is plain insanity!

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July 08, 2021, 12:41:56 PM
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My stance on reading the TOS or not is that I think that it's a futile thing to do because if you read it, and you find that some parts of the TOS isn't agreeable, you won't accept it meaning that you won't be able to access the site since most of them don't allow players to enter if they don't agree with their TOS.
It's the most fruitful thing to do if you can read their ToS and find a problem because even though you cannot agree to those terms and hence cannot register, at least you are saved from a potential loss. I can't believe people are so desperate and craving to gamble that they are ready to agree on some vengeful terms and conditions just so that they can gamble right away.

If you read the ToS and find something vengeful you should just inform the support and ask for more clarity or you can create a thread in the reputation section and ask others' opinions on the matter. I am sure most of the crypto casinos are more than ready to make amends and edit any policy that can scare away their potential customers.

Not reading ToS just because you fear you can't join the casino if something is wrong, is plain insanity!
Casinos implement their terms based on their license and for their convenience to make more profits, in some cases they mention something in the indirect way so the user's money can be in their account forever when they violates it.

But its a must think to read the terms before clicking the agree and asking about other opinions are secondary thing and make them to change it as well.
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July 08, 2021, 02:41:14 PM
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But many gamblers may not care enough about the site term and condition because most of the sites have pretty much the same term and condition. I think it is a misunderstanding of some gamblers because obviously some site also have different term and condition. I agree that these term and condition are thing that every gambler need to pay attention to because almost all the information about the rule is written there. To be honest I didn't read all of them, but only read a few important point.
Reading the important point will cover our needs to know what is their Terms and Conditions so we do not have to break their rules. But yes, many gamblers seems do not do that because maybe they have a reason why they do not read that. Maybe the point will almost the same as almost the other gambling site but maybe there is one or more point that will different since the gambling site will have different owner and policy.



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July 09, 2021, 01:19:01 AM
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But many gamblers may not care enough about the site term and condition because most of the sites have pretty much the same term and condition. I think it is a misunderstanding of some gamblers because obviously some site also have different term and condition. I agree that these term and condition are thing that every gambler need to pay attention to because almost all the information about the rule is written there. To be honest I didn't read all of them, but only read a few important point.
Reading the important point will cover our needs to know what is their Terms and Conditions so we do not have to break their rules. But yes, many gamblers seems do not do that because maybe they have a reason why they do not read that. Maybe the point will almost the same as almost the other gambling site but maybe there is one or more point that will different since the gambling site will have different owner and policy.

Now due to so many problems that have been generated thanks to different things like KYC, such as prohibited countries, Withdrawal problems, a lot of players have started to read the Terms and Conditions, something that in reality they had almost never done was read the terms and conditions, it seemed to me that it was very long and somewhat tedious apart I was lazy, but because I am residing in a country that can be prohibited I have had to read the Terms and Conditions when I make new registrations, I think that when there is a need people take the decision to read, meanwhile I think people will not.

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July 09, 2021, 02:08:02 AM
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Back in beginning of my Online gambling playing specially here in crypto gambling ? i am not aware of the importance of the TOS or TOC and i don't even read their rules and regulations.
but when time comes that one of my friends god issues about His account being freeze because of Violation ? i start learning lesson and come to read everything and all the details so i won't miss one for my own safety .
It is our obligation to read first before depositing and play.

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July 09, 2021, 02:15:56 AM
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Back in beginning of my Online gambling playing specially here in crypto gambling ? i am not aware of the importance of the TOS or TOC and i don't even read their rules and regulations.
but when time comes that one of my friends god issues about His account being freeze because of Violation ? i start learning lesson and come to read everything and all the details so i won't miss one for my own safety .
It is our obligation to read first before depositing and play.
That's what happened a lot and also it happened to me in the past but luckily for me, when my account was frozen but I was still able to appeal until the problem was resolved until I was able to make a withdrawal to finally leave the related gambling site. Therefore, most gambling users will learn from mistakes until finally realizing that reading anything related to the gambling site that will be used is an important factor, and this will happen continuously for new users because they will also still not be aware of basic things like this.

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July 09, 2021, 03:41:02 AM
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Back in beginning of my Online gambling playing specially here in crypto gambling ? i am not aware of the importance of the TOS or TOC and i don't even read their rules and regulations.
but when time comes that one of my friends god issues about His account being freeze because of Violation ? i start learning lesson and come to read everything and all the details so i won't miss one for my own safety .
It is our obligation to read first before depositing and play.

I used to not read the whole content of Terms and Condition in any aspect I mean it is enough for me to be able to catch the significant rule of the gambling or the betting site that i have entered but dealing with cryptocurrency is a whole lot different story. And to be honest I learned to read it detail by detail because misssing one information written in T&C may lead you to worst case scenario.
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July 09, 2021, 06:13:26 AM
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Back in beginning of my Online gambling playing specially here in crypto gambling ? i am not aware of the importance of the TOS or TOC and i don't even read their rules and regulations.
but when time comes that one of my friends god issues about His account being freeze because of Violation ? i start learning lesson and come to read everything and all the details so i won't miss one for my own safety .
It is our obligation to read first before depositing and play.
That's what happened a lot and also it happened to me in the past but luckily for me, when my account was frozen but I was still able to appeal until the problem was resolved until I was able to make a withdrawal to finally leave the related gambling site. Therefore, most gambling users will learn from mistakes until finally realizing that reading anything related to the gambling site that will be used is an important factor, and this will happen continuously for new users because they will also still not be aware of basic things like this.

Sometimes we need to experience bad things first to be able to realize the mistakes we made, when I was a newbie also did the same thing.
I'm lazy to read the TOS because most gambling TOS are long enough to read, which resulted in me violating the site's gambling rules,
finally got my funds frozen. Luckily I was able to solve my problem well too, I agree that it is very important to read the TOS before deciding
to play on a gambling site. So that we can find out the rules imposed by the gambling site that we will use, and not have our account frozen or banned.

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July 09, 2021, 07:15:09 AM
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Maybe with post like this and sharing of idea , and also those tons of scam accusations regarding gambling sites using this same issue to ban or freeze players account and take their money?
this will open all gamblers eyes to pay attention regarding the Rules that they must follow even before depositing or creating an account.
so if the site rules is against your belief then better not to create account .

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July 09, 2021, 09:30:19 AM
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In the terms of use, anything can be written, any beautiful and pleasant things that the player wants to see there. But if you start playing in a new casino, it is important for you to know not what is written in the TOS, but how it actually works. Therefore, the first thing to carefully study is the feedback about the project from other users who already have relevant experience. And this is an important painstaking work, since reviews are often filled by bots or are paid.

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July 09, 2021, 09:45:08 AM
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Back in beginning of my Online gambling playing specially here in crypto gambling ? i am not aware of the importance of the TOS or TOC and i don't even read their rules and regulations.
but when time comes that one of my friends god issues about His account being freeze because of Violation ? i start learning lesson and come to read everything and all the details so i won't miss one for my own safety .
It is our obligation to read first before depositing and play.

I used to not read the whole content of Terms and Condition in any aspect I mean it is enough for me to be able to catch the significant rule of the gambling or the betting site that i have entered but dealing with cryptocurrency is a whole lot different story. And to be honest I learned to read it detail by detail because misssing one information written in T&C may lead you to worst case scenario.

To be honest, it was never my habit to read T&C. I was just checking the appropriate box and moving on. After reading this thread for a while I decided to be more careful in the future. I think I won't read all of them still, but I will be searching for some important keywords, using "Find" tool.

Kudos to the gambling platforms that make it easy to read T&C by making it as short as possible!

 
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July 09, 2021, 12:18:42 PM
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But many gamblers may not care enough about the site term and condition because most of the sites have pretty much the same term and condition. I think it is a misunderstanding of some gamblers because obviously some site also have different term and condition. I agree that these term and condition are thing that every gambler need to pay attention to because almost all the information about the rule is written there. To be honest I didn't read all of them, but only read a few important point.
Reading the important point will cover our needs to know what is their Terms and Conditions so we do not have to break their rules. But yes, many gamblers seems do not do that because maybe they have a reason why they do not read that. Maybe the point will almost the same as almost the other gambling site but maybe there is one or more point that will different since the gambling site will have different owner and policy.

Now due to so many problems that have been generated thanks to different things like KYC, such as prohibited countries, Withdrawal problems, a lot of players have started to read the Terms and Conditions, something that in reality they had almost never done was read the terms and conditions, it seemed to me that it was very long and somewhat tedious apart I was lazy, but because I am residing in a country that can be prohibited I have had to read the Terms and Conditions when I make new registrations, I think that when there is a need people take the decision to read, meanwhile I think people will not.
Their Terms and Conditions seem too long to read. But maybe we can search for the point about what a gambler can do and do not. We can skip the not important things on the Terms and Conditions, but it is better to read all of that. Maybe spend some time reading all of those will not be a problem for us. As long as we know the rules, we will be okay and will not have a problem. But if we lived in a country that prohibits gambling, maybe we need to be careful playing gambling on that site.



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July 10, 2021, 01:10:32 PM
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A whole lot of persons have shared their experience lately how some online casinos tend to frustrate them during withdraws, declining their uploaded certificate s for KYC verification. In my own opinion I would suggest before clicking and accepting any terms and condition given by most of this casinos it's better one analyze what he/she is signing up and understand to what extent one can easily deposit and withdrawal from such sites

Gambling is gradually becoming an occupation mostly now where vertically everything is done digitally and many get their major source of income gambling so it wouldn't be wise if after accumulating series of progressive winnings you find it difficult to withdraw from such sites.

I'm not good at referrals so I don't get blamed if the unexpected occurs in your cause of gambling but I recommend you do thorough research before depositing your hard earned token on any casino to avoid getting your self worked up by the so called casino sites.

Lastly gamble responsibly its better to earn in cents than to loss in dollars get other source of income to complement your gambling so you don't lose out completely on your fund because gambling remains a game of probability and so responsible approach keeps you in check
This is a good enlightment for beginners gamblers that just go to a gambling site and place bet without have a good knowledge or review of such gambling platforms which always affect one during withdrawal process if the Gambling platform is scam and insincere in their operation.

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July 10, 2021, 08:32:46 PM
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While you have a point at the same time what it is written on the TOS is not a law, what I mean is that there are some casinos out there that have made abuses in the TOS in the past and the community did not simply took a look at the TOS and accepted everything that was written in there, however as you said it is important to read it before depositing any money, I know this is really boring and many people do not want to do it but it is very important to do this in the websites in which we have some bitcoin stored as you do not want to break a common sense rule and lose access to your coins because of it.
Boring indeed and not all would really be having the time on reading up a very long text whenever they  do get engage on a new site or tending to play.

They would just simply skip out and play right away which is a common behavior even myself would really be doing it most of the time.

TOS is important to read because you would know the terms and conditions but if there are sudden alterations then that would already be a shady stuff.
I will admit that I am also guilty of this, it is not fun at all to read the terms of conditions of a new site especially if you do not know if you are going to be there for long, but it has to be done, after all supposing we are lucky enough to get a huge win out of our gambling activities now you are going to be subjected to those terms of service and if you violated a single one of the terms then it is unlikely your wins are ever going to be paid.
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July 10, 2021, 08:40:41 PM
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I will admit that I am also guilty of this, it is not fun at all to read the terms of conditions of a new site especially if you do not know if you are going to be there for long, but it has to be done, after all supposing we are lucky enough to get a huge win out of our gambling activities now you are going to be subjected to those terms of service and if you violated a single one of the terms then it is unlikely your wins are ever going to be paid.
^ But that is not a good practice at all, we should spend time at least 1-2 hours reading the TOS before using it. Especially in gambling that is very needed, to avoid possible gambling games that have various rules and conditions before using them and avoid possible mistakes in the future. Reading TOS is very important than FAQ, we should learn to practice ourselves reading anything before using the site. Because sometimes the result of freezing time are those people who did not know it that could their account become an uncessable.
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But that is not a good practice at all, we should spend time at least 1-2 hours reading the TOS before using it.

I doubt the majority of here will spend 1-2 hours reading the Terms and Conditions. If you are doing that for every site, I'm amazed at you. And besides, it's not that easy to memorize all the terms even spending 1-2 hours or more. You will still miss something.

With that, I will say it's "NOT NECESSARY" to read the whole Terms.

Mainly, just go ahead to terms about anything related to Know-Your-Customer, Prohibited Countries, using VPN, multiple accounts, bonus terms, Deposit, and Withdrawal terms, or something that you are concerned about.

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July 11, 2021, 10:34:43 AM
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I doubt the majority of here will spend 1-2 hours reading the Terms and Conditions. If you are doing that for every site, I'm amazed at you. And besides, it's not that easy to memorize all the terms even spending 1-2 hours or more. You will still miss something.

With that, I will say it's "NOT NECESSARY" to read the whole Terms.

Mainly, just go ahead to terms about anything related to Know-Your-Customer, Prohibited Countries, using VPN, multiple accounts, bonus terms, Deposit, and Withdrawal terms, or something that you are concerned about.

There is one more interesting point: in any ToS of any casino you can find terms that will be unacceptable for you. And what to do in this case? We cannot offer our conditions for a casino or find casino where everything suits us, so we have to compromise and hope that these unpleasant points will not be important.

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But that is not a good practice at all, we should spend time at least 1-2 hours reading the TOS before using it.

I doubt the majority of here will spend 1-2 hours reading the Terms and Conditions. If you are doing that for every site, I'm amazed at you. And besides, it's not that easy to memorize all the terms even spending 1-2 hours or more. You will still miss something.

With that, I will say it's "NOT NECESSARY" to read the whole Terms.

Mainly, just go ahead to terms about anything related to Know-Your-Customer, Prohibited Countries, using VPN, multiple accounts, bonus terms, Deposit, and Withdrawal terms, or something that you are concerned about.
That is what we need to search for before we start playing, even if we use the faucet, because sometimes, after we played to test the site, we can tempt to deposit our money to continue playing the other gambling games. If we can know the main rules of the gambling site, we will not try to break even for just a small mistake.

Spending 1-2 hours only reading the Terms and Conditions will not advisable but if you want to know all of their rules, you are free to do that. I do not read the whole Terms and Conditions because I know that will be too long to read so I will skip the part that is not important.

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