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June 28, 2021, 06:02:36 PM
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It is always been our Obligation as gamblers/players to know whats the rules and i believe in everything that we will be entering has a need to read Terms and Conditions . or their rules.

though at first i am not a fan of reading TOS but eventually after many issues that i read in many gambling site then i put myself of checking every single details before i create accounts or at least deposit.
I think this is applicable only to those who wants to withdraw if they win in a specific casino online but for those who only deposit just to have fun and play, I think they tend to enjoy their money while playing until it's all gone but for some instances there are people who casually wins but didn't read the ToS will end up blaming the casino if they weren't able to withdraw. Although, this doesn't seem always to happen since most of the people who complained are doing something shady and get caught by the security of their system. So it's most likely the bettor's fault.

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June 28, 2021, 06:36:47 PM
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The rate at which people are involving in gambling this days is alerming without them having thorough understanding in what they are into just because of the haste of making money. Alots of newbies had lost their funds just because they were not ready to read or not informed about the terms and conditions of a game or gamble before venturing into it.

It is very important for one to understand the level of risks that should be taken before involving in a gamble by not just focusing on the money that could be made. Newbies makes these mistakes  a lot which must be avoid in order to prevent lose of funds.
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June 28, 2021, 07:44:30 PM
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Newbies makes these mistakes  a lot which must be avoid in order to prevent lose of funds.

So not reading anything related to KYC is a mistake by newbies? What if they played on a famous site already wherein they do their homework that there's no such thing as KYC for a winning?

We should not take the blame that they are newbies why there's an event of losing funds. In reality, there are really new sites that take the KYC terms as a reason not to grant or allow the winnings of a certain user. Unprofessional at its finest.

The best thing to do would be, newbies should not entertain new sites even how legit they are. Or if they really want to test it, then face the risk.

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June 28, 2021, 08:11:45 PM
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I don't know why you still have make this post in the gambling section. I bet everyone is already aware of all that. I just want to add that some of the terms and conditions changes over time and it can happen long after you signed up. There are also cases when casinos made sudden changes after they were accused of something.
If a casino changes its playing terms and conditions even slightly in such a way that it affects the players then I am sure an email or an on-site notice would be given to the players because they must agree to the terms before they play.

These days I am seeing most crypto gambling and all other services like exchanges also keep updating their terms and user agreement to comply with latest government norms. I guess if we need a place which is fully licensed environment then we must need to accept those terms and conditions time to time.
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June 28, 2021, 10:50:01 PM
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This is actually a basic thing to do before registering on the gambling site, actually not only on gambling sites but on any site or platform. Sometimes, there are many important rules and also information o the T&C. However, some people may not care about the T&C. And they will care or read the whole T&C after they found some problem,s or issues during the gambling or using the platform. ANd because ignoring any T&C, they can make some mistakes, don't know the rules, and also lose some money.

Never regret anything if we don't pay attention to the T&C in a certain platform if something happens.

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June 28, 2021, 11:07:24 PM
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This is actually a basic thing to do before registering on the gambling site, actually not only on gambling sites but on any site or platform. Sometimes, there are many important rules and also information o the T&C. However, some people may not care about the T&C. And they will care or read the whole T&C after they found some problem,s or issues during the gambling or using the platform. ANd because ignoring any T&C, they can make some mistakes, don't know the rules, and also lose some money.

Never regret anything if we don't pay attention to the T&C in a certain platform if something happens.

Doesnt really only limit out on gambling platforms but any sites or service on where you should really be needing on reading up the terms so that you wont really be having some headache later on in case you had committed something.

There are instances though that there are some alterations or changes in terms suddenly which would really be in result into those sudden problems.

Its just part of reality that majority of us wont really be minding much about reading up Terms and conditions and just easily skip out and play directly.

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June 28, 2021, 11:14:47 PM
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Gambling is gradually becoming an occupation mostly now where vertically everything is done digitally and many get their major source of income gambling so it wouldn't be wise if after accumulating series of progressive winnings you find it difficult to withdraw from such sites.
Who in the right sense will take gambling as a major source of income, i would say the opposite until you have a magical recipe that no one knows considering there are a few big time players who live solely on gambling but not everyone has that kind of skill level to make a living with gambling.

I do agree with the part that you need to read all the terms and conditions before registered to a site and then the major aspect is whether the site can be trusted and whether they have any issues in the past.

Stake is a great site and they do not enforce KYC but there are a few sites that enforced KYC after winning big and you need to check everything if you are not willing to provide your identity to a gambling site.
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June 28, 2021, 11:39:44 PM
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I'm also one of the few players here that don't bother reading the Terms and Conditions. I let the reviews to other users before I play on that site. I'm sure I will see and read anything about KYC at those reviews if that site is implementing it.

But if there's a time that I don't find any reviews about the site, it's a common thing for me to read the Terms and Conditions. Just everyone else, I don't like the KYC part of the gambling site especially if it will be asked right away.

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June 28, 2021, 11:42:19 PM
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Whether it is a trading platform, gambling platform or something else. It is a must to go through the terms and conditions page, but one out of thousand will do this. Most of the users while signing up just agree and complete the registration. When there arises some issue with the withdrawal or fund transfer people gets response citing the terms and conditions from the support team. By that time people realise the mistake and that time things might've gone out of their hands.

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June 28, 2021, 11:47:14 PM
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Whether it is a trading platform, gambling platform or something else. It is a must to go through the terms and conditions page, but one out of thousand will do this. Most of the users while signing up just agree and complete the registration. When there arises some issue with the withdrawal or fund transfer people gets response citing the terms and conditions from the support team. By that time people realise the mistake and that time things might've gone out of their hands.

Actually, that's true. Most of us will just check the box stating that "I agree with Terms and Conditions" , without even opening this page. But if you have a lot of money to spend on a site, it is always better to at least read their terms so you will not be caught off guard when the site just suddenly froze or suspend your account. It is your money, so be responsible about it because not many people can help you if the fault is on your side.
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June 29, 2021, 12:58:29 AM
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I think more important than any T&C's are the reputation of the casino in question.

The fact of the matter is that T&C's are simply theoretical constructs that have no real implication in real life. Most crypto casinos have very similar T&C's when it comes to KYC & AML regulations, but the way enforce these rules are what decides their usability to someone who isn't willing to provide this information.

If a casino has a history of cherrypicking pedantic details in their T&C's, it's best to avoid them altogether. Whereas I'd trust sites like Bitsler and Justdice to not ask for KYC even if it is in their T&Cs.
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June 29, 2021, 05:31:16 AM
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This is really important if you will gamble a large amount on that platform. Knowing your rights as a user will protect you incase they lock your account for some unknown reason and also for you to help avoid some violations. Some websites lock their user's account when they see that you win a huge amount, they will ask you something that will expose your privacy. Even if you submit a legal document they want, they still won't verify your account to withraw your profit from their platform.
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June 29, 2021, 05:51:36 AM
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Whether it is a trading platform, gambling platform or something else. It is a must to go through the terms and conditions page, but one out of thousand will do this. Most of the users while signing up just agree and complete the registration. When there arises some issue with the withdrawal or fund transfer people gets response citing the terms and conditions from the support team. By that time people realise the mistake and that time things might've gone out of their hands.
Exactly, the website will be the one liable if they don't present their terms and conditions to their potential users. Remember that even if they say in video that they don't collect your data, they still do it no matter what because they need to customize what you are seeing in their platform.
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June 29, 2021, 06:30:05 AM
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A whole lot of persons have shared their experience lately how some online casinos tend to frustrate them during withdraws, declining their uploaded certificate s for KYC verification. In my own opinion I would suggest before clicking and accepting any terms and condition given by most of this casinos it's better one analyze what he/she is signing up and understand to what extent one can easily deposit and withdrawal from such sites

Gambling is gradually becoming an occupation mostly now where vertically everything is done digitally and many get their major source of income gambling so it wouldn't be wise if after accumulating series of progressive winnings you find it difficult to withdraw from such sites.

I'm not good at referrals so I don't get blamed if the unexpected occurs in your cause of gambling but I recommend you do thorough research before depositing your hard earned token on any casino to avoid getting your self worked up by the so called casino sites.

Lastly gamble responsibly its better to earn in cents than to loss in dollars get other source of income to complement your gambling so you don't lose out completely on your fund because gambling remains a game of probability and so responsible approach keeps you in check
First of all gambling is not an occupation so no one ever consider it as their source of income, its just another way to make money but you can't survive in this world from the winning bets alone.

Yes, it is very important to read the terms of their service especially about the VPN usage and one household per IP so that no one will get into a stage of frustration. Also make sure that the casino you are going to gamble accepts the players from your country because some casinos restricted players from certain countries which vaires from one casino to another.
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June 29, 2021, 06:47:30 AM
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To be honest, I think Terms and Conditions aren't for the users because if it was then probably we should've be able to not agree to it, I think they are there so the site removes their liability in case something happens to the users so even if you were to read it, you don't have that much choice unless you have the patience to find one where the Terms and Conditions are favorable to you but in my experience, most of them are the using the same.

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June 29, 2021, 09:16:05 AM
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First of all gambling is not an occupation so no one ever consider it as their source of income, its just another way to make money but you can't survive in this world from the winning bets alone.
It can be an occupation but it's not recommended since the amount of gamblers that makes profit for a living is very small.

Yes, it is very important to read the terms of their service especially about the VPN usage and one household per IP so that no one will get into a stage of frustration. Also make sure that the casino you are going to gamble accepts the players from your country because some casinos restricted players from certain countries which vaires from one casino to another.
Most casinos rarely mentions the usage of VPN since it's most likely prohibited but some of them have very relaxed rules where you could get away with using a VPN for quite some time so it's always best to approach the support first if you're going to use it on their site.


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June 29, 2021, 09:28:09 AM
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Most times I wonder how the expect their customers to read those lengthy posts before accepting it. For me I don't even bother going through it's content I just click on accept and if after using their services for a while and I don't feel comfortable with their services I quit and move on to another site but I know it's better to stick to one but most of this online casinos behave funny to their clients atimes

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June 29, 2021, 09:28:38 AM
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This is really important if you will gamble a large amount on that platform. Knowing your rights as a user will protect you incase they lock your account for some unknown reason and also for you to help avoid some violations. Some websites lock their user's account when they see that you win a huge amount, they will ask you something that will expose your privacy. Even if you submit a legal document they want, they still won't verify your account to withraw your profit from their platform.
That's the only way you can access or register their site though, by accepting their terms and conditions. To me it's futile to read it because they're all just the same, kind of like if you've read one of them, you have read them all.

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June 29, 2021, 09:50:55 AM
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The problem is that often these texts can be very long, so it's hard to actually put yourself to reading all of it. But not reading at all is definitely too risky. I think that if a person is not willing to read all of it, the following things should be searched for and read: KYC policy, restricted countries, minimum/maximum deposit/withdrawal, rules (like no multi-accounting, perhaps no VPN and stuff like that). Also, if one's interested in bonuses, the wager requirements and other related conditions should be read.
You're right that this topic deserves attention. It seems to me that people often have negative experience because of being unfamiliar with the terms.

You are right.
I personally think it should be illegal to write such a long text ! They know no one has time to sit down and read pages. It can very well be made short! They use this trick to get people just sign up without any idea what they are getting into.
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Great point! I would limit the number of characters in Terms and Conditions to a readable amount, and force it through legislation. Really, we all know that no one reads those T&C exactly because of the length, but, of course it's always better for us to read it.

 
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June 29, 2021, 10:00:45 AM
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A whole lot of persons have shared their experience lately how some online casinos tend to frustrate them during withdraws, declining their uploaded certificate s for KYC verification. In my own opinion I would suggest before clicking and accepting any terms and condition given by most of this casinos it's better one analyze what he/she is signing up and understand to what extent one can easily deposit and withdrawal from such sites

Gambling is gradually becoming an occupation mostly now where vertically everything is done digitally and many get their major source of income gambling so it wouldn't be wise if after accumulating series of progressive winnings you find it difficult to withdraw from such sites.

I'm not good at referrals so I don't get blamed if the unexpected occurs in your cause of gambling but I recommend you do thorough research before depositing your hard earned token on any casino to avoid getting your self worked up by the so called casino sites.

Lastly gamble responsibly its better to earn in cents than to loss in dollars get other source of income to complement your gambling so you don't lose out completely on your fund because gambling remains a game of probability and so responsible approach keeps you in check

If you are not aware of reading the Terms of Service first before playing then never expect to be safe in your playing.

I don't blame them for losing their money but i blame them for being Weak and lazy to read and understand the rules first before putting their money at risk.

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