Terms and condition a must read before signing up any online gambling site

[semobo]

First of all gambling is not an occupation so no one ever consider it as their source of income, its just another way to make money but you can't survive in this world from the winning bets alone.

It can be an occupation but it's not recommended since the amount of gamblers that makes profit for a living is very small.

Yes, it is very important to read the terms of their service especially about the VPN usage and one household per IP so that no one will get into a stage of frustration. Also make sure that the casino you are going to gamble accepts the players from your country because some casinos restricted players from certain countries which vaires from one casino to another.

Most casinos rarely mentions the usage of VPN since it's most likely prohibited but some of them have very relaxed rules where you could get away with using a VPN for quite some time so it's always best to approach the support first if you're going to use it on their site.

There are professional poker players but someone who played poker on his mobile can't be a professional poker in the next day, it will take time and a lot of effort along with the luck on his side.

In terms some casinos mentioned about the usage of VPN or else we can simply ask them via support or even Bitcointalk ANN thread so we can get quicker response possibly.

[Karartma1]

Who's gonna read pages and pages of T&Cs? Nobody.
Then what happens is that companies put some guardrails in place to defend themselves and the players that don't read them, when they get scammed start to blame the platforms.
But players should blame themselves first.
I also don't read everything but at least, using the search function, I make sure that I can do (or can't do) certain things.
The rest is pretty much the same on every platform.
Be smart people.

[Cling18]

Who's gonna read pages and pages of T&Cs? Nobody.
Then what happens is that companies put some guardrails in place to defend themselves and the players that don't read them, when they get scammed start to blame the platforms.
But players should blame themselves first.
I also don't read everything but at least, using the search function, I make sure that I can do (or can't do) certain things.
The rest is pretty much the same on every platform.
Be smart people.

I admit that I'm one of those who skip the T&Csmost of the time especially if it's too long. However, the company should also consider the convenience of its users without asking or demanding for personal information just to pass the KYC. They should also try to keep their users. That's actually the reason why I always check for the legitimacy of every site that I'm using.

[barota]

Who's gonna read pages and pages of T&Cs? Nobody.
Then what happens is that companies put some guardrails in place to defend themselves and the players that don't read them, when they get scammed start to blame the platforms.
But players should blame themselves first.
I also don't read everything but at least, using the search function, I make sure that I can do (or can't do) certain things.
The rest is pretty much the same on every platform.
Be smart people.

I admit that I'm one of those who skip the T&Csmost of the time especially if it's too long. However, the company should also consider the convenience of its users without asking or demanding for personal information just to pass the KYC. They should also try to keep their users. That's actually the reason why I always check for the legitimacy of every site that I'm using.

yeah , most of gamblors ignore pages of T&Cs , in my opinion bettors should avoid sites that have unclear terms or law for kyc i think some if not most they dont accept id card even , they sayed photo large or language must be in english , lot of fake and bad arguments , all of this for scamming people under the name of kyc the new scam that appeared recently by sites gambling is the fake of law kyc, i hope the will be solved in the future because lot of bettors lost their money because of kyc the crypto does not need kyc but the speed and ease in exchanging money yes

[avikz]

A whole lot of persons have shared their experience lately how some online casinos tend to frustrate them during withdraws, declining their uploaded certificate s for KYC verification. In my own opinion I would suggest before clicking and accepting any terms and condition given by most of this casinos it's better one analyze what he/she is signing up and understand to what extent one can easily deposit and withdrawal from such sites

Gambling is gradually becoming an occupation mostly now where vertically everything is done digitally and many get their major source of income gambling so it wouldn't be wise if after accumulating series of progressive winnings you find it difficult to withdraw from such sites.

I'm not good at referrals so I don't get blamed if the unexpected occurs in your cause of gambling but I recommend you do thorough research before depositing your hard earned token on any casino to avoid getting your self worked up by the so called casino sites.

Lastly gamble responsibly its better to earn in cents than to loss in dollars get other source of income to complement your gambling so you don't lose out completely on your fund because gambling remains a game of probability and so responsible approach keeps you in check

Well, reading terms and conditions is the most important part while choosing a new crypto casino. I would like to identify few very important points that one must read,

1. KYC requirements
2. If joining bonus is offered then wagering requirements
3. List of banned countries

These are the most important points to read in terms and conditions. If not clear, go ahead and ask their support team or head to bitcointalk forum ANN thread to see other's experience.

[jrrsparkles]

A whole lot of persons have shared their experience lately how some online casinos tend to frustrate them during withdraws, declining their uploaded certificate s for KYC verification. In my own opinion I would suggest before clicking and accepting any terms and condition given by most of this casinos it's better one analyze what he/she is signing up and understand to what extent one can easily deposit and withdrawal from such sites

Gambling is gradually becoming an occupation mostly now where vertically everything is done digitally and many get their major source of income gambling so it wouldn't be wise if after accumulating series of progressive winnings you find it difficult to withdraw from such sites.

I'm not good at referrals so I don't get blamed if the unexpected occurs in your cause of gambling but I recommend you do thorough research before depositing your hard earned token on any casino to avoid getting your self worked up by the so called casino sites.

Lastly gamble responsibly its better to earn in cents than to loss in dollars get other source of income to complement your gambling so you don't lose out completely on your fund because gambling remains a game of probability and so responsible approach keeps you in check

Well, reading terms and conditions is the most important part while choosing a new crypto casino. I would like to identify few very important points that one must read,

1. KYC requirements
2. If joining bonus is offered then wagering requirements
3. List of banned countries

These are the most important points to read in terms and conditions. If not clear, go ahead and ask their support team or head to bitcointalk forum ANN thread to see other's experience.

Also they accept multiple accounts for the same user or one account per user, because casinos with bonus and promotions never encourages multiple accounts but there are casinos which give rights to their customers to use as much as accounts they wants to create for their privacy and other so they are not going to get in that radar when they wager huge amount from different accounts.

[Mahanton]

Who's gonna read pages and pages of T&Cs? Nobody.
Then what happens is that companies put some guardrails in place to defend themselves and the players that don't read them, when they get scammed start to blame the platforms.
But players should blame themselves first.
I also don't read everything but at least, using the search function, I make sure that I can do (or can't do) certain things.
The rest is pretty much the same on every platform.
Be smart people.

I admit that I'm one of those who skip the T&Csmost of the time especially if it's too long. However, the company should also consider the convenience of its users without asking or demanding for personal information just to pass the KYC. They should also try to keep their users. That's actually the reason why I always check for the legitimacy of every site that I'm using.

Actually guilty on this one where i dont really read up anytime i do make some engagement or make use of a certain site not only with gambling sites but in other sites as well.
Im not really fan of it since those long text are way too time consuming on reading up.I know the risk is there since you dont know actually the rules or their terms but based
up also on what you had said that i would just simply stick out to the reputable or known ones which you can already presume that they would really be good into their service.
Honestly, this is a must thing to be done on where you should be reading up ToS but im much sure that not all would be having this kind of behavior.

[Slow death]

Many casinos use TOS to harm customers, for example:

the person creates an account, the person makes a deposit of 10 BTC, and loses all bitcoin

the next day the person deposits 20 BTC and lost everything

the next day the person deposits 5 BTC and wins 20 BTC, when withdrawing money the casino will ask the person to do KYC and use TOS to block the person's funds.

this example I gave has happened a lot in recent years

[michellee]

This is really important if you will gamble a large amount on that platform. Knowing your rights as a user will protect you incase they lock your account for some unknown reason and also for you to help avoid some violations. Some websites lock their user's account when they see that you win a huge amount, they will ask you something that will expose your privacy. Even if you submit a legal document they want, they still won't verify your account to withraw your profit from their platform.

That's the only way you can access or register their site though, by accepting their terms and conditions. To me it's futile to read it because they're all just the same, kind of like if you've read one of them, you have read them all.

As long as we do not break their terms and conditions, it will not give us a problem. Unfortunately, even if we already read the terms and conditions, the casino can easily change it without us know because they will not be happy to see a gambler want to withdraw big money, even if they are already doing KYC. We really need to carefully select the gambling site to play gambling, win the games, and withdraw the win money with or without doing KYC and without breaking their rules.

[just_Alice]

You have a point, but there's a reason people don't read ToS: they're extremely long and often written in a rather technical language, which normally people can't fully understand.

Moreover, sometimes you can read all of it but there still will be some misunderstanding. For instance, regarding KYC verification. The owners can indicate in ToS that it will be required, plus what exactly is required (e.g. full address, ID photo, etc.), but what they don't tell you is that your photo must be of super high quality, your address must be indicated on an official document, but they can accidentally extract the wrong address, and sometimes it may take you >5 attempts to submit it and pass the verification. So reading ToS wouldn't help you in such a case.

I still think it's better to read it, but I don't blame people who don't, and I think reading reviews and looking at a reputation, in general, is more representative and helpful.

[adzino]

A whole lot of persons have shared their experience lately how some online casinos tend to frustrate them during withdraws, declining their uploaded certificate s for KYC verification. In my own opinion I would suggest before clicking and accepting any terms and condition given by most of this casinos it's better one analyze what he/she is signing up and understand to what extent one can easily deposit and withdrawal from such sites

Gambling is gradually becoming an occupation mostly now where vertically everything is done digitally and many get their major source of income gambling so it wouldn't be wise if after accumulating series of progressive winnings you find it difficult to withdraw from such sites.

I'm not good at referrals so I don't get blamed if the unexpected occurs in your cause of gambling but I recommend you do thorough research before depositing your hard earned token on any casino to avoid getting your self worked up by the so called casino sites.

Lastly gamble responsibly its better to earn in cents than to loss in dollars get other source of income to complement your gambling so you don't lose out completely on your fund because gambling remains a game of probability and so responsible approach keeps you in check

You did agree to the terms of service when you create an account and start playing over there. So it is indeed your responsibility to read what you are agreeing to. Most casinos don't allow users to play from certain countries and they block access to the site. But people find their way around. When they get flagged, they start crying. The casino cannot verify that each and every user is following the terms of service or not. So when you get caught, be prepared to face the consequences for breaking the terms of service. Usually you will always get back your initial deposit and your winnings will highly likely for forfeited.

[DoublerHunter]

You have a point, but there's a reason people don't read ToS: they're extremely long and often written in a rather technical language, which normally people can't fully understand.

I'm a good example of that, I usually don't read the TOS as I'm thinking most TOS are all the same, it's more on technical but I believe the site would not make a stupid mistake to destroy their reputation, so my strategy is very simple, I usually play on a casino with a good reputation and has a big market as I know they'll ensure to keep that reputation intact.

^ Even though you are not reading the TOS but I think you must go first to the FAQ which is some of those questions come from the TOS. For me, reading TOS is a very important matter because you can read it there the DO and the DONTS which is causing possible mistakes every time you will use it. So if you have enough time to read the TOS much better. It is better if you want to protect yourself from possibly violating the rules and TOS is very important at all and nothing else matter.  

[iv4n]

You have a point, but there's a reason people don't read ToS: they're extremely long and often written in a rather technical language, which normally people can't fully understand.

I'm a good example of that, I usually don't read the TOS as I'm thinking most TOS are all the same, it's more on technical but I believe the site would not make a stupid mistake to destroy their reputation, so my strategy is very simple, I usually play on a casino with a good reputation and has a big market as I know they'll ensure to keep that reputation intact.

^ Even though you are not reading the TOS but I think you must go first to the FAQ which is some of those questions come from the TOS. For me, reading TOS is a very important matter because you can read it there the DO and the DONTS which is causing possible mistakes every time you will use it. So if you have enough time to read the TOS much better. It is better if you want to protect yourself from possibly violating the rules and TOS is very important at all and nothing else matter.  

What Finestream wishes to say is that "DO & DONT's" are pretty much the same everywhere, if you follow the logic! And what can you possibly want to do in one casino that you can't do in any other?!

If you are an honest player you will not have problems... at least not some big problems! But this doesn't apply to high rollers and people who have good winning streaks (most often with sports betting)! People with a lot of money should think twice before choosing a casino, they can be robbed! And people with long/big winning streaks often have problems with cashing out! With reading or not their ToS!

[Rengga Jati]

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Yeah, that is why I also said so:

This is actually a basic thing to do before registering on the gambling site, actually not only on gambling sites but on any site or platform.

We can't ignore reading the T&C because this is also one of the ways to know about the platform.
However, some people may still not be aware of it and skip reading the T&C, and only back to T&C when they only need certain information.
That's true, changing T&C will give an impact on the users, however, yeah once more that is their right that is of course based on certain evaluations.


But honestly, when there are so many wordings and sentences in the T&C, will really you all here read all of them one by one? Or only by skimming or focusing on certain points that are considered important?

[Johnyz]

To fully understand the site, reading the terms and conditions is a must and not just on gambling site as much as possible, make this one as a habit every time you create an account on any site. The important informations  that you may need , you can see here so I think this is very important. Some gambling site made changes on that without informing the players or the users, that’s why read it at least once in a month to see if there’s a changes that may affect your activities, you can prevent it by reading the ToS.

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

I'm a good example of that, I usually don't read the TOS as I'm thinking most TOS are all the same, it's more on technical but I believe the site would not make a stupid mistake to destroy their reputation, so my strategy is very simple, I usually play on a casino with a good reputation and has a big market as I know they'll ensure to keep that reputation intact.

But some casino had weird tos such we had to gamble certain amount before withdraw but they let everyone deposit any amount.  and I think that is the problem if some people dont really read tos  Fortunately, nowadays most popular online casinos make everythings easier. like deposits. withdraw. registers and others.

[Kyraishi]

A whole lot of persons have shared their experience lately how some online casinos tend to frustrate them during withdraws, declining their uploaded certificate s for KYC verification. In my own opinion I would suggest before clicking and accepting any terms and condition given by most of this casinos it's better one analyze what he/she is signing up and understand to what extent one can easily deposit and withdrawal from such sites

Gambling is gradually becoming an occupation mostly now where vertically everything is done digitally and many get their major source of income gambling so it wouldn't be wise if after accumulating series of progressive winnings you find it difficult to withdraw from such sites.

This is a very real threat in my opinion that is completely underrated by the crypto community.

People think that you can just get away with not reading T&C's and choose who you play with off of their reputation alone. But trust me, I've seen a ton of casinos and sportsbooks that have gone completely rogue after years of honest practice. Yet, they have stayed in business because they're able to leverage their Terms and Conditions and the nitty gritty inside them.

I'm not good at referrals so I don't get blamed if the unexpected occurs in your cause of gambling but I recommend you do thorough research before depositing your hard earned token on any casino to avoid getting your self worked up by the so called casino sites.

You should be doing DD on any site you're parking a significant amount of funds on, period. This includes all casinos/sportsbooks. Take a look at their history, reputation, community engagement, physical location, and regulatory status. All of the above are important.

[rodskee]

this is one of the biggest problem in online gambling now because those newbies has no idea how strict this can be once you violated but will never imposed as long as the situation is favoring the gambling site.

Just like creating multiple accounts? lol they will never come your way as long as you are depositing and playing , But once you Win ? specially some good amount of winnings ? that willbe the start of your nightmare .

[rhomelmabini]

this is one of the biggest problem in online gambling now because those newbies has no idea how strict this can be once you violated but will never imposed as long as the situation is favoring the gambling site.

Just like creating multiple accounts? lol they will never come your way as long as you are depositing and playing , But once you Win ? specially some good amount of winnings ? that willbe the start of your nightmare .

Well, I guess it's true but if in the first place they read the t&c when most of the time it was being shown if you're trying to sign up on a site. The thing about this sites was they don't make it a requirement to read that long t&c and they just let it slide and mark/checked that "I agree" checkmark.

Just a suggestion I guess sites should adopt as well to have a documentations or some gitbooks were it's easy to dive onto t&c and other site stuffs. This gitbooks was somehow a trend especially in the DeFi space and it helps a lot.

[bitterguy28]

Just a suggestion I guess sites should adopt as well to have a documentations or some gitbooks were it's easy to dive onto t&c and other site stuffs. This gitbooks was somehow a trend especially in the DeFi space and it helps a lot.

Your intention is indeed Best mate but let's admit the reality here mate that T&C is a trap , actually gambling site use this as hiding place to take advantage of their gamblers , I know that not all of them but the truth is? by chance they already Knew these things but not even making action to Help players understand easily the terms .